• Repairing (not replacing) micro USB port ?

    From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 10:40:04 2025
    With tiresome predictability SWMBO just had to "help out" by putting our bluetooth headphones on charge. Of course in a way I cannot fathom she
    managed to ram it in the wrong way and now, looking inside, there is just
    a void. I am guessing the pins have been crushed ?

    Is there any way to attempt to mechanically realign them, or is a new
    port the answer ? I don't have the kit, nor the eyes anymore to attempt
    any fine soldering, so it's landfill otherwise.

    As is the way of the world, our bluetooth speaker has also decided to
    stop charging (micro USB again). However that port looks intact.

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 12:26:45 2025
    On 12/05/2025 11:40, Jethro_uk wrote:
    With tiresome predictability SWMBO just had to "help out" by putting our bluetooth headphones on charge. Of course in a way I cannot fathom she managed to ram it in the wrong way and now, looking inside, there is just
    a void. I am guessing the pins have been crushed ?

    Is there any way to attempt to mechanically realign them, or is a new
    port the answer ? I don't have the kit, nor the eyes anymore to attempt
    any fine soldering, so it's landfill otherwise.

    As is the way of the world, our bluetooth speaker has also decided to
    stop charging (micro USB again). However that port looks intact.

    The pins are thin slithers of metal, presumably copper and thin layer of
    gold layer on a plastic substrate.

    Sorry, but unless you can see the substrate and move it back into
    position and it's just deformed , it's going to be a new connector, or a
    new phone depending on residual vale etc.

    BICBW

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com on Mon May 12 12:30:27 2025
    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:
    With tiresome predictability SWMBO just had to "help out" by putting our bluetooth headphones on charge. Of course in a way I cannot fathom she managed to ram it in the wrong way and now, looking inside, there is just
    a void. I am guessing the pins have been crushed ?

    Is there any way to attempt to mechanically realign them, or is a new
    port the answer ? I don't have the kit, nor the eyes anymore to attempt
    any fine soldering, so it's landfill otherwise.

    As is the way of the world, our bluetooth speaker has also decided to
    stop charging (micro USB again). However that port looks intact.

    There's supposed to be a rectangular tab in the middle which holds the pins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_hardware#/media/File:Lightning_to_USB_Micro-B_adapter_2.jpg

    If that's missing I think the port is a goner.

    But if it's just for charging you only need to give it 5V and ground, so you may not need to replace it - just find somewhere with continuity to them on
    the board (ground is probably easy, 5V might be more work) and attach flying leads. You can even get little boards with a USB-C port on them and through hole pins that give you 5V that you could wire in.

    You may find your phone camera macro mode is good enough to solder with, or else there are cheap USB microscopes (and nicer units with displays).

    Theo

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  • From John Rumm@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 15:29:01 2025
    On 12/05/2025 11:40, Jethro_uk wrote:
    With tiresome predictability SWMBO just had to "help out" by putting our bluetooth headphones on charge. Of course in a way I cannot fathom she managed to ram it in the wrong way and now, looking inside, there is just
    a void. I am guessing the pins have been crushed ?

    Is there any way to attempt to mechanically realign them, or is a new
    port the answer ? I don't have the kit, nor the eyes anymore to attempt
    any fine soldering, so it's landfill otherwise.

    sounds like a new connector will be needed. Not necessarily that
    difficult to do (or get done). Local phone repair type outfit might have
    the capability.

    (also worth googling the part number of the headphones - you may be
    lucky and find that the connector is on a daughter board, or on the end
    of a flexie that is a replaceable part.

    As is the way of the world, our bluetooth speaker has also decided to
    stop charging (micro USB again). However that port looks intact.

    Depending on why, that might be a harder fix.


    --
    Cheers,

    John.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 12:59:34 2025
    Jethro_uk wrote:

    in a way I cannot fathom she
    managed to ram it in the wrong way and now, looking inside, there is just
    a void. I am guessing the pins have been crushed ?

    The contacts are on a "tongue" that sits closer to the flat side than
    the chamfered side.

    If she used sufficient force to actually get the plug in upside-down, I
    guess the socket is toast, unless your name is Louis Rossmann?

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  • From Pancho@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 15:47:01 2025
    On 5/12/25 15:42, Jethro_uk wrote:
    Thanks for all replies.

    Noting that replacement items (not necessarily the same brand, but would
    do the job) would come to around £30 from Amazon, then even £10 to a
    local simply doesn't make sense.

    The speaker is one of those things. But I know I gently said to SWMBO a
    while back not to bother with the headphones and leave it to me.... (I am sure some here can sympathise)
    Not much help now, but to avoid the same thing happening in future you
    can use magnetic USB charging cables.

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08JGDXSVR>

    I have this design, not sure if it is the best, but it works, and
    protects USB ports from being damaged/dirtied.

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Pancho on Mon May 12 15:09:24 2025
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 15:47:01 +0100, Pancho wrote:

    On 5/12/25 15:42, Jethro_uk wrote:
    Thanks for all replies.

    Noting that replacement items (not necessarily the same brand, but
    would do the job) would come to around £30 from Amazon, then even £10
    to a local simply doesn't make sense.

    The speaker is one of those things. But I know I gently said to SWMBO a
    while back not to bother with the headphones and leave it to me.... (I
    am sure some here can sympathise)
    Not much help now, but to avoid the same thing happening in future you
    can use magnetic USB charging cables.

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08JGDXSVR>

    I have this design, not sure if it is the best, but it works, and
    protects USB ports from being damaged/dirtied.

    I have long been a fan of any form of charging that doesn't require
    physical manipulation. To the extent that my early adoption rather
    queered the pitch for me as I have a drawer full of various incompatible
    leads and tips.

    I remain surprised that no one saw fit to follow Steve Jobs declaration
    about phablets and stylii with a similar one about charging and cables.
    In 2025, if you need to plug your wHatEver gizmo in to charge it then you
    have failed.

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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to Pancho on Mon May 12 18:02:00 2025
    On 12/05/2025 15:47, Pancho wrote:
    On 5/12/25 15:42, Jethro_uk wrote:
    Thanks for all replies.

    Noting that replacement items (not necessarily the same brand, but would
    do the job) would come to around £30 from Amazon, then even £10 to a
    local simply doesn't make sense.

    The speaker is one of those things. But I know I gently said to SWMBO a
    while back not to bother with the headphones and leave it to me.... (I am
    sure some here can sympathise)
    Not much help now, but to avoid the same thing happening in future you
    can use magnetic USB charging cables.

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08JGDXSVR>

    I have this design, not sure if it is the best, but it works, and
    protects USB ports from being damaged/dirtied.

    A new unit is likely to have USB-C which can be plugged in either way.

    --
    Max Demian

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 20:02:16 2025
    On 12/05/2025 15:42, Jethro_uk wrote:
    Thanks for all replies.

    Noting that replacement items (not necessarily the same brand, but would
    do the job) would come to around £30 from Amazon, then even £10 to a
    local simply doesn't make sense.

    The speaker is one of those things. But I know I gently said to SWMBO a
    while back not to bother with the headphones and leave it to me.... (I am sure some here can sympathise)

    I hope you have apologised to her for causing this problem?

    --
    Sam Plusnet

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Mon May 12 20:06:04 2025
    On 12/05/2025 18:02, Max Demian wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 15:47, Pancho wrote:
    On 5/12/25 15:42, Jethro_uk wrote:
    Thanks for all replies.

    Noting that replacement items (not necessarily the same brand, but would >>> do the job) would come to around £30 from Amazon, then even £10 to a
    local simply doesn't make sense.

    The speaker is one of those things. But I know I gently said to SWMBO a
    while back not to bother with the headphones and leave it to me....
    (I am
    sure some here can sympathise)
    Not much help now, but to avoid the same thing happening in future you
    can use magnetic USB charging cables.

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08JGDXSVR>

    I have this design, not sure if it is the best, but it works, and
    protects USB ports from being damaged/dirtied.

    A new unit is likely to have USB-C which can be plugged in either way.

    USB-C doesn't seem to be taking over the world quite as quickly as I
    imagined.
    I have just installed a brand new motherboard in this machine, and the
    back panel connectors include 9 USB-A sockets (of various speeds), and a
    single USB-C socket.

    --
    Sam Plusnet

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 12 14:42:26 2025
    Thanks for all replies.

    Noting that replacement items (not necessarily the same brand, but would
    do the job) would come to around £30 from Amazon, then even £10 to a
    local simply doesn't make sense.

    The speaker is one of those things. But I know I gently said to SWMBO a
    while back not to bother with the headphones and leave it to me.... (I am
    sure some here can sympathise)

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Sam Plusnet on Mon May 12 20:10:10 2025
    Sam Plusnet wrote:

    USB-C doesn't seem to be taking over the world quite as quickly as I imagined.
    I have just installed a brand new motherboard in this machine, and the
    back panel connectors include 9 USB-A sockets (of various speeds), and a single USB-C socket.
    Computers are the one place I don't mind type-A, but phones, mice,
    tablets, e-readers, hubs, docks, car chargers, desk chargers are as near
    as damn it 100% type-C for me, and thank $DEITY for that.

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  • From Pancho@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Mon May 12 23:03:07 2025
    On 5/12/25 18:02, Max Demian wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 15:47, Pancho wrote:
    On 5/12/25 15:42, Jethro_uk wrote:
    Thanks for all replies.

    Noting that replacement items (not necessarily the same brand, but would >>> do the job) would come to around £30 from Amazon, then even £10 to a
    local simply doesn't make sense.

    The speaker is one of those things. But I know I gently said to SWMBO a
    while back not to bother with the headphones and leave it to me....
    (I am
    sure some here can sympathise)
    Not much help now, but to avoid the same thing happening in future you
    can use magnetic USB charging cables.

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08JGDXSVR>

    I have this design, not sure if it is the best, but it works, and
    protects USB ports from being damaged/dirtied.

    A new unit is likely to have USB-C which can be plugged in either way.


    USB-C can still suffer from dirt, and rough handling.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Sam Plusnet on Tue May 13 09:45:59 2025
    Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    USB-C doesn't seem to be taking over the world quite as quickly as I imagined.
    I have just installed a brand new motherboard in this machine, and the
    back panel connectors include 9 USB-A sockets (of various speeds), and a single USB-C socket.

    USB-C on computers is more complicated because people expect it to also do video, power delivery, Thunderbolt, ... It's not just changing one connector shell for another.

    If your mobo has internal USB headers there's nothing stopping you attaching front-of-case type-C ports to those, but you won't get any of the above. On the front is probably better than scrabbling around the back looking for the port anyway.

    Theo

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Pancho on Tue May 13 10:30:37 2025
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 23:03:07 +0100, Pancho wrote:

    On 5/12/25 18:02, Max Demian wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 15:47, Pancho wrote:
    On 5/12/25 15:42, Jethro_uk wrote:
    Thanks for all replies.

    Noting that replacement items (not necessarily the same brand, but
    would do the job) would come to around £30 from Amazon, then even £10 >>>> to a local simply doesn't make sense.

    The speaker is one of those things. But I know I gently said to SWMBO
    a while back not to bother with the headphones and leave it to me....
    (I am sure some here can sympathise)
    Not much help now, but to avoid the same thing happening in future you
    can use magnetic USB charging cables.

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08JGDXSVR>

    I have this design, not sure if it is the best, but it works, and
    protects USB ports from being damaged/dirtied.

    A new unit is likely to have USB-C which can be plugged in either way.


    USB-C can still suffer from dirt, and rough handling.

    As will all mechanical solutions.

    If you can do it wirelessly you should. I am sure this explains the long
    life of my 2018 A7 ....

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  • From Pancho@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 13 11:56:39 2025
    On 5/13/25 11:30, Jethro_uk wrote:
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 23:03:07 +0100, Pancho wrote:

    On 5/12/25 18:02, Max Demian wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 15:47, Pancho wrote:
    On 5/12/25 15:42, Jethro_uk wrote:
    Thanks for all replies.

    Noting that replacement items (not necessarily the same brand, but
    would do the job) would come to around £30 from Amazon, then even £10 >>>>> to a local simply doesn't make sense.

    The speaker is one of those things. But I know I gently said to SWMBO >>>>> a while back not to bother with the headphones and leave it to me.... >>>>> (I am sure some here can sympathise)
    Not much help now, but to avoid the same thing happening in future you >>>> can use magnetic USB charging cables.

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08JGDXSVR>

    I have this design, not sure if it is the best, but it works, and
    protects USB ports from being damaged/dirtied.

    A new unit is likely to have USB-C which can be plugged in either way.


    USB-C can still suffer from dirt, and rough handling.

    As will all mechanical solutions.

    If you can do it wirelessly you should. I am sure this explains the long
    life of my 2018 A7 ....

    Magnetic tips do not provide the same leverage for damage. They can be
    easily replaced if they get dirty.

    But yes, wireless is good. I have a Braun electric toothbrush that makes
    your A7 look newish.

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  • From Graham.@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 13 12:21:14 2025
    To the extent that my early adoption rather
    queered the pitch for me...

    I'd never heard that expression before, or so I thought!
    I thought the 10cc line was "don't you pee on me pitch"

    --
    Graham.

    %Profound_observation%

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Pancho on Tue May 13 14:42:19 2025
    On Tue, 13 May 2025 11:56:39 +0100, Pancho wrote:

    On 5/13/25 11:30, Jethro_uk wrote:
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 23:03:07 +0100, Pancho wrote:

    On 5/12/25 18:02, Max Demian wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 15:47, Pancho wrote:
    On 5/12/25 15:42, Jethro_uk wrote:
    Thanks for all replies.

    Noting that replacement items (not necessarily the same brand, but >>>>>> would do the job) would come to around £30 from Amazon, then even >>>>>> £10 to a local simply doesn't make sense.

    The speaker is one of those things. But I know I gently said to
    SWMBO a while back not to bother with the headphones and leave it
    to me.... (I am sure some here can sympathise)
    Not much help now, but to avoid the same thing happening in future
    you can use magnetic USB charging cables.

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08JGDXSVR>

    I have this design, not sure if it is the best, but it works, and
    protects USB ports from being damaged/dirtied.

    A new unit is likely to have USB-C which can be plugged in either
    way.


    USB-C can still suffer from dirt, and rough handling.

    As will all mechanical solutions.

    If you can do it wirelessly you should. I am sure this explains the
    long life of my 2018 A7 ....

    Magnetic tips do not provide the same leverage for damage. They can be
    easily replaced if they get dirty.

    But yes, wireless is good. I have a Braun electric toothbrush that makes
    your A7 look newish.

    As I said, I had magnetic tips in 2015. However when I went to get a
    second cable for the car, I realised there was no standard and that
    despite looking like they interchanged not all tips worked with all
    cables.

    And they there was also the data/charging divide ... some tips only
    supported charging. Some were full fat.

    However, not having to plug something into a device every so often will obviously extend it's life.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 13 18:37:11 2025
    On 12/05/2025 11:40, Jethro_uk wrote:
    With tiresome predictability SWMBO just had to "help out" by putting our bluetooth headphones on charge. Of course in a way I cannot fathom she managed to ram it in the wrong way and now, looking inside, there is just
    a void. I am guessing the pins have been crushed ?

    Is there any way to attempt to mechanically realign them, or is a new
    port the answer ? I don't have the kit, nor the eyes anymore to attempt
    any fine soldering, so it's landfill otherwise.

    Phone relair shop could priolly do it for about £40 if its worth it

    As is the way of the world, our bluetooth speaker has also decided to
    stop charging (micro USB again). However that port looks intact.

    USB C cant come fast enough for me. I hate those micro USB fuckers

    --
    It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. Mark Twain

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Tue May 13 18:21:13 2025
    On Tue, 13 May 2025 18:37:11 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 12/05/2025 11:40, Jethro_uk wrote:
    With tiresome predictability SWMBO just had to "help out" by putting
    our bluetooth headphones on charge. Of course in a way I cannot fathom
    she managed to ram it in the wrong way and now, looking inside, there
    is just a void. I am guessing the pins have been crushed ?

    Is there any way to attempt to mechanically realign them, or is a new
    port the answer ? I don't have the kit, nor the eyes anymore to attempt
    any fine soldering, so it's landfill otherwise.

    Phone relair shop could priolly do it for about £40 if its worth it

    Had a local chap suggest £25 for the pair. But why pay that when you can
    get new ones (with warranty ....for £40 :(


    As is the way of the world, our bluetooth speaker has also decided to
    stop charging (micro USB again). However that port looks intact.

    USB C cant come fast enough for me. I hate those micro USB fuckers

    +1,000,000

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 10:51:10 2025
    Well, in a demonstration of something, I spent £5.50 (inc P&P) on brand
    new replacement wireless headphones. Bit basic, but they do the job.

    Ordered last Wednesday and shipped from China.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com on Mon May 19 13:13:02 2025
    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

    With tiresome predictability SWMBO just had to "help out" by putting our bluetooth headphones on charge. Of course in a way I cannot fathom she managed to ram it in the wrong way and now, looking inside, there is just
    a void. I am guessing the pins have been crushed ?

    Is there any way to attempt to mechanically realign them, or is a new
    port the answer ? I don't have the kit, nor the eyes anymore to attempt
    any fine soldering, so it's landfill otherwise.

    As is the way of the world, our bluetooth speaker has also decided to
    stop charging (micro USB again). However that port looks intact.

    Cut the Gordian Knot, future-proof yourself, chuck away the headphones, and
    buy a set with a USB-C charging port.

    If your speaker is up for replacement, consider going USB-C for that as
    well.

    These moves could work out cheaper in the long run.


    --
    Spike

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Spike on Tue May 20 13:52:54 2025
    On Mon, 19 May 2025 13:13:02 +0000, Spike wrote:

    Jethro_uk <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

    With tiresome predictability SWMBO just had to "help out" by putting
    our bluetooth headphones on charge. Of course in a way I cannot fathom
    she managed to ram it in the wrong way and now, looking inside, there
    is just a void. I am guessing the pins have been crushed ?

    Is there any way to attempt to mechanically realign them, or is a new
    port the answer ? I don't have the kit, nor the eyes anymore to attempt
    any fine soldering, so it's landfill otherwise.

    As is the way of the world, our bluetooth speaker has also decided to
    stop charging (micro USB again). However that port looks intact.

    Cut the Gordian Knot, future-proof yourself, chuck away the headphones,
    and buy a set with a USB-C charging port.

    If your speaker is up for replacement, consider going USB-C for that as
    well.

    These moves could work out cheaper in the long run.

    In a similar vein, the £2.00 headphones I got (which are totally fine,
    btw). came with a 4" micro-USB cable for charging. I've plugged the micro
    USB bit into the headphones and secure the rest of the cable to the
    headband. In future when charging, I'll plug the other end into a port
    and never disturb the actual headphone socket ever again.

    I also use 1M 4-gang extensions around the house that can be tucked under furniture and pulled out when needed. Which kills 2 birds with one
    stone :)

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Sam Plusnet on Fri May 23 03:07:33 2025
    On Mon, 5/12/2025 3:06 PM, Sam Plusnet wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 18:02, Max Demian wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 15:47, Pancho wrote:
    On 5/12/25 15:42, Jethro_uk wrote:
    Thanks for all replies.

    Noting that replacement items (not necessarily the same brand, but would >>>> do the job) would come to around £30 from Amazon, then even £10 to a >>>> local simply doesn't make sense.

    The speaker is one of those things. But I know I gently said to SWMBO a >>>> while back not to bother with the headphones and leave it to me.... (I am >>>> sure some here can sympathise)
    Not much help now, but to avoid the same thing happening in future you can use magnetic USB charging cables.

    <https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08JGDXSVR>

    I have this design, not sure if it is the best, but it works, and protects USB ports from being damaged/dirtied.

    A new unit is likely to have USB-C which can be plugged in either way.

    USB-C doesn't seem to be taking over the world quite as quickly as I imagined.
    I have just installed a brand new motherboard in this machine, and the back panel connectors include 9 USB-A sockets (of various speeds), and a single USB-C socket.


    A motherboard costing a thousand, has a different connector mix.

    https://c1.neweggimages.com/productimage/nb1280/13-119-689-11.png

    The two on the left are Thunderbolt, the other three are conventional.
    There is a SS20 (USB3.2 2x3) as one of the three. There is an SS20
    inside the motherboard, for cabling to the front panel.

    For the ports that offer Thunderbolt or USB4, you must read up on the standards, to see what interfaces they use, and what they are good for.
    For example, I don't think USB4 is compatible with USB 1.1 keyboards,
    so running a USB-C to USB-A for a keyboard would not be a use case.
    But there are likely to be additional rules, so you need to Wiki
    that stuff before buying. I refer to these as the obscure standards,
    because it's going to be a learning experience.

    I think Asmedia has had a USB4 chip for approximately one year, and
    it can be used to add USB4 to motherboards where the Southbridge does
    not have that standard.

    Regular motherboards do not have the PCI Express lanes to support
    massive amounts of I/O properly. There is some sharing going on.
    Most of the time, you will not notice. For example, this is most
    likely to be apparent, when you are attempting a SoftRAID and
    a bunch of interfaces are all doing reads at the same time or
    a bunch of interfaces are all doing writes at the same time.
    It may spoil your benchmarking speeds.

    The 285 can't even run a PCIE Rev5 NVMe at 14GB/sec. It
    can only run it at 12GB/sec, because some chip comms inside
    the CPU, have a die to die comms path that adds transmission
    latency, and the pipelining isn't good enough to hide it.
    "Even the simple things in life are not guaranteed".
    For those who must run at ungodly speeds.

    USB-C *is* taking over, but the motherboard companies regularly
    survey what customers are doing, and they do not push interface
    mixes that won't get used. They know that customers look at
    the diagrams, like the one above, before purchasing, and thus,
    getting those details right, makes a difference to sales.

    There are also add-on cards. For Thunderbolt. And for USB4.
    The ThunderBolt cards may have been vendor specific (Asus card
    with Asus mobo) and the motherboard may have a declaration
    of "ThunderBolt Ready". They put some cheesy control signals
    on a separate cable leading to the add-on card, which complicated
    the fitting of the card.

    https://www.asus.com/ca-en/motherboards-components/motherboards/accessories/usb4-pcie-gen4-card/

    The obscure standards are their own research topic.
    You can't expect stuff to "just work". Like, can you *boot*
    off USB4 ? I could not offer a guess, as to whether the
    BIOS has a USB4 driver. Probably not.

    Paul

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