• Re: Air receiver hydraulic test pressure

    From Fredxx@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Mon May 12 13:30:40 2025
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    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver. It's
    a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure? Some articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one was
    of unknown type and origin.


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:md5:U6tduXJ6Ub3z9D92D+gz+A==">I've
    just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver. It's
    a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.
    <br>
    <br>
    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure?
    Some articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.
    <br>
    <br>
    Is there a BS or similar standard?
    <br>
    <br>
    I'll be checking the relief valve too.
    <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of
    these:<br>
     <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1">https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1</a><br>
    <br>
    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one
    was of unknown type and origin.<br>
    <br>
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  • From jon@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Mon May 12 19:20:22 2025
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 13:30:40 +0100, Fredxx wrote:

    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver. It's
    a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure? Some
    articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of
    these:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one was
    of unknown type and origin.

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    <html>
    <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
    </head> <body>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:md5:U6tduXJ6Ub3z9D92D+gz+A==">I've
    just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver. It's
    a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.
    <br>
    <br>
    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure?
    Some articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.
    <br>
    <br>
    Is there a BS or similar standard?
    <br>
    <br>
    I'll be checking the relief valve too.
    <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of
    these:<br>
     <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
     href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1">https://
    www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1</a><br>
    <br>
    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one
    was of unknown type and origin.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    </body>
    </html>

    Don't forget 95% water 5% air.

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Tue May 13 06:12:41 2025
    On 12/05/2025 13:30, Fredxx wrote:
    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver. It's
    a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure? Some
    articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    Start her https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PD_5500

    Tip: a google search for "british standard testing of pressure vessels"
    will provide a synopsis of PD5500



    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one was
    of unknown type and origin.


    The test pressure is normally twice the working pressure when a pressure
    vessel is first commissioned, and 1.5 times the working pressure for
    subsequent routine tests.

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  • From SteveW@21:1/5 to David on Tue May 13 11:36:22 2025
    On 13/05/2025 06:12, David wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 13:30, Fredxx wrote:
    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver.
    It's a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure? Some
    articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    Start her https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PD_5500

    Tip: a google search for "british standard testing of pressure vessels"
    will provide a synopsis of PD5500



    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of
    these:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one
    was of unknown type and origin.


    The test pressure is normally twice the working pressure when a pressure vessel is first commissioned, and 1.5 times the working pressure for subsequent routine tests.

    The vessel usually has the working and test pressures stamped on an
    attached plate - certainly mine does, as did the ones that I come across through work (other than the really big ones that we made for petrochem
    and industrial processes, where it was covered in the stacks of test and maintenance documents).

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Tue May 13 14:10:38 2025
    Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver. It's
    a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure? Some
    articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one was
    of unknown type and origin.




    I’m guessing the OP must have mixed up his units and looked up test
    pressures for a vessel rated at 10 psi, not 10 bar. A test to 1.25 or 1.5
    bar would be appropriate in that scenario.

    Tim

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to David on Wed May 14 11:17:12 2025
    On 13/05/2025 06:12, David wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 13:30, Fredxx wrote:
    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver.
    It's a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure? Some
    articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    Start her https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PD_5500

    Tip: a google search for "british standard testing of pressure vessels"
    will provide a synopsis of PD5500

    I wish I was aware of this when I made the first post. Many thanks. The
    Act contains the actual test pressures.

    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of
    these:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one
    was of unknown type and origin.


    The test pressure is normally twice the working pressure when a pressure vessel is first commissioned, and 1.5 times the working pressure for subsequent routine tests.

    In ignorance I filled the container fully with water and tested to a
    nominal 20 bar, 2 times the working pressure. I will be more enlightened
    for next time.

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to SteveW on Wed May 14 11:18:05 2025
    On 13/05/2025 11:36, SteveW wrote:
    On 13/05/2025 06:12, David wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 13:30, Fredxx wrote:
    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver.
    It's a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure?
    Some articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    Start her https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PD_5500

    Tip: a google search for "british standard testing of pressure
    vessels" will provide a synopsis of PD5500



    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of
    these:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one
    was of unknown type and origin.


    The test pressure is normally twice the working pressure when a
    pressure vessel is first commissioned, and 1.5 times the working
    pressure for subsequent routine tests.

    The vessel usually has the working and test pressures stamped on an
    attached plate - certainly mine does, as did the ones that I come across through work (other than the really big ones that we made for petrochem
    and industrial processes, where it was covered in the stacks of test and maintenance documents).

    Mine has working pressures on a plate but no test pressures. :-(

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 14 11:19:36 2025
    On 13/05/2025 15:10, Tim+ wrote:
    Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver. It's
    a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure? Some
    articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of these: >> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one was
    of unknown type and origin.




    I’m guessing the OP must have mixed up his units and looked up test pressures for a vessel rated at 10 psi, not 10 bar. A test to 1.25 or 1.5 bar would be appropriate in that scenario.

    The working pressure is definitely rated at 10 bar.

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to jon on Wed May 14 11:20:59 2025
    On 12/05/2025 20:20, jon wrote:
    On Mon, 12 May 2025 13:30:40 +0100, Fredxx wrote:

    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver. It's
    a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure? Some
    articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of
    these:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one was
    of unknown type and origin.


    Don't forget 95% water 5% air.

    Why? I didn't want any compressive energy just in case things let go and
    so filled the receiver with 100% water.

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  • From David@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Wed May 14 11:42:36 2025
    On 14/05/2025 11:17, Fredxx wrote:
    On 13/05/2025 06:12, David wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 13:30, Fredxx wrote:
    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver.
    It's a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure?
    Some articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    Start her https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PD_5500

    Tip: a google search for "british standard testing of pressure
    vessels" will provide a synopsis of PD5500

    I wish I was aware of this when I made the first post. Many thanks. The
    Act contains the actual test pressures.

    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of
    these:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one
    was of unknown type and origin.


    The test pressure is normally twice the working pressure when a
    pressure vessel is first commissioned, and 1.5 times the working
    pressure for subsequent routine tests.

    In ignorance I filled the container fully with water and tested to a
    nominal 20 bar, 2 times the working pressure. I will be more enlightened
    for next time.



    It shouldn't have caused any harm, in fact you have reassured yourself
    that the thing isn't likely to go bang in service. It just that twice
    working pressure usually is deemed unnecessary for periodic checks.

    FYI ISTR that for the initial commissioning test that it has to be
    maintained at the test pressure for 30 minutes.

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to David on Wed May 14 11:52:53 2025
    On 14/05/2025 11:42, David wrote:
    On 14/05/2025 11:17, Fredxx wrote:
    On 13/05/2025 06:12, David wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 13:30, Fredxx wrote:
    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver.
    It's a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure?
    Some articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    Start her https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PD_5500

    Tip: a google search for "british standard testing of pressure
    vessels" will provide a synopsis of PD5500

    I wish I was aware of this when I made the first post. Many thanks.
    The Act contains the actual test pressures.

    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of
    these:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one
    was of unknown type and origin.


    The test pressure is normally twice the working pressure when a
    pressure vessel is first commissioned, and 1.5 times the working
    pressure for subsequent routine tests.

    In ignorance I filled the container fully with water and tested to a
    nominal 20 bar, 2 times the working pressure. I will be more
    enlightened for next time.



    It shouldn't have caused any harm, in fact you have reassured yourself
    that the thing isn't likely to go bang in service. It just that twice
    working pressure usually is deemed unnecessary for periodic checks.

    FYI ISTR that for the initial commissioning test that it has to be
    maintained at the test pressure for 30 minutes.

    Thanks for the info.

    The purpose of the test was personal reassurance and hand on my heart I
    tested the receiver.

    I probably held it at 10 bar for 10 minutes. It's not something I took
    note of.

    The receiver is a current model but the datasheet doesn't have any test parameters. Perhaps to absolve them of liability or that there are a
    number manufacturer over the life of the product?

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Wed May 14 13:12:09 2025
    On 14/05/2025 11:52, Fredxx wrote:
    On 14/05/2025 11:42, David wrote:
    On 14/05/2025 11:17, Fredxx wrote:
    On 13/05/2025 06:12, David wrote:
    On 12/05/2025 13:30, Fredxx wrote:
    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver.
    It's a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure?
    Some articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    Start her https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PD_5500

    Tip: a google search for "british standard testing of pressure
    vessels" will provide a synopsis of PD5500

    I wish I was aware of this when I made the first post. Many thanks.
    The Act contains the actual test pressures.

    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one
    of these:
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one
    was of unknown type and origin.


    The test pressure is normally twice the working pressure when a
    pressure vessel is first commissioned, and 1.5 times the working
    pressure for subsequent routine tests.

    In ignorance I filled the container fully with water and tested to a
    nominal 20 bar, 2 times the working pressure. I will be more
    enlightened for next time.



    It shouldn't have caused any harm, in fact you have reassured yourself
    that the thing isn't likely to go bang in service. It just that twice
    working pressure usually is deemed unnecessary for periodic checks.

    FYI ISTR that for the initial commissioning test that it has to be
    maintained at the test pressure for 30 minutes.

    Thanks for the info.

    The purpose of the test was personal reassurance and hand on my heart I tested the receiver.

    I probably held it at 10 bar for 10 minutes. It's not something I took
    note of.

    Doh, I meant 20 bar!

    The receiver is a current model but the datasheet doesn't have any test parameters. Perhaps to absolve them of liability or that there are a
    number manufacturer over the life of the product?

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Wed May 14 21:24:50 2025
    Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
    On 13/05/2025 15:10, Tim+ wrote:
    Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
    On 12/10/2024 16:58, Fredxx wrote:
    I've just acquired a compressor with a modest sized air receiver. It's >>>> a 150 litre rated at 10 bar.

    I need to perform a hydraulic test on this but at what pressure? Some
    articles say 1.25 bar others 1.5bar.

    Is there a BS or similar standard?

    I'll be checking the relief valve too.

    I know it's a long time ago but round to testing this. I used one of these: >>> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0DP69TLQ1

    And got the vessel to 20 bar. Changed PRV for 10 bar as the old one was
    of unknown type and origin.




    I’m guessing the OP must have mixed up his units and looked up test
    pressures for a vessel rated at 10 psi, not 10 bar. A test to 1.25 or 1.5 >> bar would be appropriate in that scenario.

    The working pressure is definitely rated at 10 bar.


    Then the articles were massively wrong. ;-) I was only postulating a way in which someone could have come up with such a low test pressures figure.

    Tim

    Tim

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