• Re: Electronic keypad code switch

    From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Wed May 14 20:50:36 2025
    On 14/05/2025 20:11, Chris Green wrote:

    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    How beefy do you want it?

    <https://www.jwsltd.co.uk/act-10-keypad-access-control-276-p.html>

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 14 20:11:00 2025
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at
    somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.

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  • From N_Cook@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Thu May 15 09:20:53 2025
    On 14/05/2025 20:11, Chris Green wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Can't you put a standard switch inside one of those passive key
    containing code lock box for carers/cleaners for house entry, that is
    such a boon to burglars, saves them having to search under rocks,
    flowerpots, gnomes etc?

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to diverse@tcp.co.uk on Thu May 15 09:46:48 2025
    N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
    On 14/05/2025 20:11, Chris Green wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Can't you put a standard switch inside one of those passive key
    containing code lock box for carers/cleaners for house entry, that is
    such a boon to burglars, saves them having to search under rocks,
    flowerpots, gnomes etc?

    Possibly, but it is rather less convenient. Just being able to walk up
    and enter the code on the buttons is what I'm after.

    This is to replace a failed wireless keypad that operates our garage
    door. The remote key fobs still work (from the car, one by the front
    door, etc.) but we need a way to get into the garage when standing by
    the door (of the garaage). There's no need for wireless as the keypad
    sits on the garage door jamb. It just needs a momentary switch
    closure to operate the door.

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  • From N_Cook@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Thu May 15 10:01:45 2025
    On 15/05/2025 09:46, Chris Green wrote:
    N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
    On 14/05/2025 20:11, Chris Green wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at
    somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Can't you put a standard switch inside one of those passive key
    containing code lock box for carers/cleaners for house entry, that is
    such a boon to burglars, saves them having to search under rocks,
    flowerpots, gnomes etc?

    Possibly, but it is rather less convenient. Just being able to walk up
    and enter the code on the buttons is what I'm after.

    This is to replace a failed wireless keypad that operates our garage
    door. The remote key fobs still work (from the car, one by the front
    door, etc.) but we need a way to get into the garage when standing by
    the door (of the garaage). There's no need for wireless as the keypad
    sits on the garage door jamb. It just needs a momentary switch
    closure to operate the door.


    If low voltage and current. With say a calculator keypad you could cut
    the tracks to say the click switches 1,3,6,8 and wire them in series.
    Requiring pressing 1+3+6+8 concurrently rather thaan sequentially which
    is not an obvious thing to do AFAIK.
    Assuming the unloock operation is out of the weather and not observable
    by anyone or they would know to press all the buttons at the same time. Pressing any sequence of 4 buttons would never unlock it

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Thu May 15 09:40:25 2025
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    Search Aliexpress for 'access control keypad'. eg:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006437669484.html https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005002480572465.html https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005008652788913.html

    They appear to take 12/24v power and have an 'open' output. They can do
    RFID cards as well, but I don't think you need them.

    Not sure how you program in new key codes, but presumably via the keypad?

    Theo

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  • From Tricky Dicky@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Thu May 15 09:59:17 2025
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    If you are happy doing some electronics assembly then this might be an
    answer;

    https://picaxe.com/docs/chi008.pdf

    The kit is no longer available but the technical notes contain a list of components and the full circuit diagram and a program to download on the
    chip. The Picaxe PIC can be bought from Revolution along with their
    specific download lead, other suppliers such as Rapidelectronics also stock
    the components. Software and manuals are free to download.

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  • From Simon Simple@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Thu May 15 10:58:42 2025
    On 14/05/2025 20:11, Chris Green wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    I have a cheap safe on my bench which I recently fixed, it's a small 'Micromark' unit, must be 20 years old.

    Keypad, PCB, battery holder (4 x AA), an output to operate a solenoid
    and a push button (inside the safe) for resetting is all it has. You
    could disassemble the electronics and use a relay in place of the
    solenoid, I'd expect. Obviously, you can change the code to whatever.

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Thu May 15 11:26:06 2025
    On 14/05/2025 20:11, Chris Green wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.



    Maybe something like a numeric keypad for a raspberry pi (or similar
    micro controller board) coupled with a postage stamp size pico pi that
    will require only the addition of a battery and perhaps an external
    transistor to switch something.

    https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/rp2350-stamp?variant=53521682530683

    Some python programming and some (free) development software on the
    computer would be required and there are plenty of tutorials on the web.

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 15 11:31:22 2025
    On 15/05/2025 11:26, alan_m wrote:


    https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/rp2350-stamp?variant=53521682530683


    or
    https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/tiny-2350?variant=42092638699603

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  • From AnthonyL@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Thu May 15 11:34:02 2025
    On Wed, 14 May 2025 20:11:00 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at >somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Would a remote fob do the trick? This is from the USA but surely
    something similar must be available here:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387856115928


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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Dicky on Thu May 15 13:11:21 2025
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    If you are happy doing some electronics assembly then this might be an answer;

    https://picaxe.com/docs/chi008.pdf

    The kit is no longer available but the technical notes contain a list of components and the full circuit diagram and a program to download on the chip. The Picaxe PIC can be bought from Revolution along with their
    specific download lead, other suppliers such as Rapidelectronics also stock the components. Software and manuals are free to download.

    I was wondering if there were things like this around, thank you,
    that's well within my electronics capabilities I think. I wonder if
    there's an Arduino equivalant, I have Arduino stuff to hand.

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  • From Joe@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Thu May 15 13:32:25 2025
    On Thu, 15 May 2025 13:11:21 +0100
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that
    only produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a
    lock, I want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point
    me at somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    If you are happy doing some electronics assembly then this might be
    an answer;

    https://picaxe.com/docs/chi008.pdf

    The kit is no longer available but the technical notes contain a
    list of components and the full circuit diagram and a program to
    download on the chip. The Picaxe PIC can be bought from Revolution
    along with their specific download lead, other suppliers such as Rapidelectronics also stock the components. Software and manuals
    are free to download.
    I was wondering if there were things like this around, thank you,
    that's well within my electronics capabilities I think. I wonder if
    there's an Arduino equivalant, I have Arduino stuff to hand.


    Something like this?

    https://forum.arduino.cc/t/keypad-entry-with-multiple-pin-numbers/246894

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Theo on Thu May 15 13:08:54 2025
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    Search Aliexpress for 'access control keypad'. eg:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006437669484.html https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005002480572465.html https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005008652788913.html

    They appear to take 12/24v power and have an 'open' output. They can do
    RFID cards as well, but I don't think you need them.

    Not sure how you program in new key codes, but presumably via the keypad?

    Yes, thanks, they would seem to provide what I need, somewhat overkill
    but that's no matter. Thank you.

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to AnthonyL on Thu May 15 13:13:25 2025
    AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 14 May 2025 20:11:00 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a >momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only >produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at >somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Would a remote fob do the trick? This is from the USA but surely
    something similar must be available here:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387856115928

    No, we already have several of those, all working still. We need
    something to stick on the outside of the garage that's (somewhat)
    burglar proof but will let us open the door.

    --
    Chris Green
    ·

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to diverse@tcp.co.uk on Thu May 15 13:07:08 2025
    N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
    On 15/05/2025 09:46, Chris Green wrote:
    N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> wrote:
    On 14/05/2025 20:11, Chris Green wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at
    somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Can't you put a standard switch inside one of those passive key
    containing code lock box for carers/cleaners for house entry, that is
    such a boon to burglars, saves them having to search under rocks,
    flowerpots, gnomes etc?

    Possibly, but it is rather less convenient. Just being able to walk up
    and enter the code on the buttons is what I'm after.

    This is to replace a failed wireless keypad that operates our garage
    door. The remote key fobs still work (from the car, one by the front
    door, etc.) but we need a way to get into the garage when standing by
    the door (of the garaage). There's no need for wireless as the keypad
    sits on the garage door jamb. It just needs a momentary switch
    closure to operate the door.


    If low voltage and current. With say a calculator keypad you could cut
    the tracks to say the click switches 1,3,6,8 and wire them in series. Requiring pressing 1+3+6+8 concurrently rather thaan sequentially which
    is not an obvious thing to do AFAIK.
    Assuming the unloock operation is out of the weather and not observable
    by anyone or they would know to press all the buttons at the same time. Pressing any sequence of 4 buttons would never unlock it

    It isn't "out of the weather". Also having to press buttons
    simultaneously probably requires two hands which, again, reduces the
    ease of use somewhat, I'm often carrying something to put away in the
    garage for example.

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  • From Robert@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Thu May 15 21:08:20 2025
    On 15/05/2025 13:13, Chris Green wrote:
    AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 14 May 2025 20:11:00 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at
    somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Would a remote fob do the trick? This is from the USA but surely
    something similar must be available here:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387856115928

    No, we already have several of those, all working still. We need
    something to stick on the outside of the garage that's (somewhat)
    burglar proof but will let us open the door.

    Its not exactly burglar proof if its just a plain on/off or momentary
    switch, they just need to access the cable and short/open the switch
    wires. The security will depend solely on how well you can protect the
    wiring.
    I assume the secure way would involve a weatherproof keypad with matrix
    or serial output which gets transmitted to a decoding unit inside the
    garage.

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Thu May 15 21:05:34 2025
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 14 May 2025 20:11:00 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at
    somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Would a remote fob do the trick? This is from the USA but surely
    something similar must be available here:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387856115928

    No, we already have several of those, all working still. We need
    something to stick on the outside of the garage that's (somewhat)
    burglar proof but will let us open the door.


    I know it’s not what you want but have you considered a simple Wi-Fi relay like the Shelly 1 to trigger the door? As long as you have your phone on
    you, you can open the door.

    There are more expensive gadgets that will feed back the door position (ie. Open/closed) which is obviously better but a simple relay works for me.

    Tim

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Robert on Thu May 15 21:54:44 2025
    Robert <robert@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 15/05/2025 13:13, Chris Green wrote:
    AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 14 May 2025 20:11:00 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at
    somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Would a remote fob do the trick? This is from the USA but surely
    something similar must be available here:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387856115928

    No, we already have several of those, all working still. We need
    something to stick on the outside of the garage that's (somewhat)
    burglar proof but will let us open the door.

    Its not exactly burglar proof if its just a plain on/off or momentary
    switch, they just need to access the cable and short/open the switch
    wires. The security will depend solely on how well you can protect the wiring.
    I assume the secure way would involve a weatherproof keypad with matrix
    or serial output which gets transmitted to a decoding unit inside the
    garage.

    True, but similarly a burglar could simply push very hard on the side
    door of the garage and it would probably disintegrate! :-) That's
    why I said 'somewhat'. However the wiring would easily be hidden
    behind the door jamb with nothing exposed outside so would need a bit
    of perseverence and knowledge to open the door.

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay on Fri May 16 09:05:57 2025
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    AnthonyL <nospam@please.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 14 May 2025 20:11:00 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at
    somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Would a remote fob do the trick? This is from the USA but surely
    something similar must be available here:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/387856115928

    No, we already have several of those, all working still. We need
    something to stick on the outside of the garage that's (somewhat)
    burglar proof but will let us open the door.


    I know it’s not what you want but have you considered a simple Wi-Fi relay like the Shelly 1 to trigger the door? As long as you have your phone on
    you, you can open the door.

    I very rarely have a phone on me, especially when I'm working around
    the house and garden which is when I want to open the door.

    --
    Chris Green
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 10:25:07 2025
    On 15/05/2025 11:26, alan_m wrote:
    On 14/05/2025 20:11, Chris Green wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad.  I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing?  Or can anyone point me at
    somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.



    Maybe something like a numeric keypad for a raspberry pi (or similar
    micro controller board) coupled with a postage stamp size pico pi that
    will require only the addition of a battery and perhaps an external transistor to switch something.

    https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/rp2350-stamp?variant=53521682530683

    Some python programming and some (free) development software on the
    computer would be required and there are plenty of tutorials on the web.

    I bought half a dozen car key fob entry thingies from aliexpress

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006141693255.html

    Mostly because they were dirt cheap, not because I had a use for them.

    Each signal pin goes hi or lo depending on which button was pushed

    Needs 3-5V at 5mA to be on, which is a bit high for batteries, but fine
    for a mains device


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    you can. There are now experts in the art of taking offence, indeed
    whole academic subjects, such as 'gender studies', devoted to it.

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Fri May 16 10:52:05 2025
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 15/05/2025 11:26, alan_m wrote:
    On 14/05/2025 20:11, Chris Green wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad.  I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing?  Or can anyone point me at
    somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.



    Maybe something like a numeric keypad for a raspberry pi (or similar
    micro controller board) coupled with a postage stamp size pico pi that
    will require only the addition of a battery and perhaps an external transistor to switch something.

    https://shop.pimoroni.com/products/rp2350-stamp?variant=53521682530683

    Some python programming and some (free) development software on the computer would be required and there are plenty of tutorials on the web.

    I bought half a dozen car key fob entry thingies from aliexpress

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006141693255.html

    Mostly because they were dirt cheap, not because I had a use for them.

    Each signal pin goes hi or lo depending on which button was pushed

    Needs 3-5V at 5mA to be on, which is a bit high for batteries, but fine
    for a mains device

    Yes, but that misses out the vital ingredient that I need, something
    with a numeric keypad that can sit out 'in public'. As I said I have
    loads of key fob type thingies which will operate the door, but I need
    a vaguely secure equivalent that you have to know a combination to
    operate.

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  • From Tricky Dicky@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri May 16 14:49:19 2025
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Another possibility is to use an ibutton which you can have on a key fob
    and it just needs touching against an ibutton probe to activate although
    each i-button has its own unique code you could use software to scan only
    the unique codes for multiple ones if required.

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Dicky on Fri May 16 16:41:51 2025
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Another possibility is to use an ibutton which you can have on a key fob
    and it just needs touching against an ibutton probe to activate although
    each i-button has its own unique code you could use software to scan only
    the unique codes for multiple ones if required.

    As I keep saying we have lots of key-fob button devices that work
    fine. The numeric keypad is needed when you don't have any devices
    with you and/or (for example) if you want to tell someone else how to
    get into the garage when you're not there.

    --
    Chris Green
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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri May 16 20:10:57 2025
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at
    somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Another possibility is to use an ibutton which you can have on a key fob
    and it just needs touching against an ibutton probe to activate although
    each i-button has its own unique code you could use software to scan only
    the unique codes for multiple ones if required.

    As I keep saying we have lots of key-fob button devices that work
    fine. The numeric keypad is needed when you don't have any devices
    with you and/or (for example) if you want to tell someone else how to
    get into the garage when you're not there.


    That’s when you get your mobile phone out and open it for them. ;-)

    Tim

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay on Fri May 16 21:37:59 2025
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at
    somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Another possibility is to use an ibutton which you can have on a key fob >> and it just needs touching against an ibutton probe to activate although >> each i-button has its own unique code you could use software to scan only >> the unique codes for multiple ones if required.

    As I keep saying we have lots of key-fob button devices that work
    fine. The numeric keypad is needed when you don't have any devices
    with you and/or (for example) if you want to tell someone else how to
    get into the garage when you're not there.


    That’s when you get your mobile phone out and open it for them. ;-)

    How do I know when they're there? I don't particularly want them to
    phone me when they arrive there at 3am, or for that matter when I
    arrive there at 3am and my phone battery is flat.

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  • From Tim+@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Sat May 17 06:15:01 2025
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only >>>>> produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at >>>>> somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Another possibility is to use an ibutton which you can have on a key fob >>>> and it just needs touching against an ibutton probe to activate although >>>> each i-button has its own unique code you could use software to scan only >>>> the unique codes for multiple ones if required.

    As I keep saying we have lots of key-fob button devices that work
    fine. The numeric keypad is needed when you don't have any devices
    with you and/or (for example) if you want to tell someone else how to
    get into the garage when you're not there.


    That’s when you get your mobile phone out and open it for them. ;-)

    How do I know when they're there? I don't particularly want them to
    phone me when they arrive there at 3am, or for that matter when I
    arrive there at 3am and my phone battery is flat.


    That’s when *they* get their mobile phone out and let you know they want
    you to open it. Phones are handy things.

    Tim

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay on Sat May 17 11:19:03 2025
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Tim+ <timdownieuk@yahoo.co.youkay> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a >>>>> momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only >>>>> produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I >>>>> want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at >>>>> somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.


    Another possibility is to use an ibutton which you can have on a key fob >>>> and it just needs touching against an ibutton probe to activate although >>>> each i-button has its own unique code you could use software to scan only
    the unique codes for multiple ones if required.

    As I keep saying we have lots of key-fob button devices that work
    fine. The numeric keypad is needed when you don't have any devices
    with you and/or (for example) if you want to tell someone else how to
    get into the garage when you're not there.


    That’s when you get your mobile phone out and open it for them. ;-)

    How do I know when they're there? I don't particularly want them to
    phone me when they arrive there at 3am, or for that matter when I
    arrive there at 3am and my phone battery is flat.


    That’s when *they* get their mobile phone out and let you know they want you to open it. Phones are handy things.

    Yes, when they work. Mobile coverage is decidedly poor by our house.

    You can't win! :-)

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  • From Thomas Prufer@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Sun May 18 10:41:35 2025
    On Wed, 14 May 2025 20:11:00 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a
    momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only
    produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at >somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.

    "keypad programmable entry switch"

    eventually led to this and its brothers:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005872923669.html


    Might be close to what you want. And it has a pinout, so some chance of checking
    if it might work, and at 3.38 pounds shipped...?

    Thomas Prufer

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Thomas Prufer on Sun May 18 10:02:04 2025
    Thomas Prufer <prufer.public@mnet-online.de.invalid> wrote:
    On Wed, 14 May 2025 20:11:00 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    I'm looking for a switch (as in am on/off switch, or even better a >momentary action one) that is actuated by entering the correct
    combination on a keypad.

    I've tried searching for "electronic combination lock" but that only >produces actual locks operated by a keypad. I don't want a lock, I
    want to switch something when the right code is entered.

    Is there some magic name for such a thing? Or can anyone point me at >somewhere that sells such things?

    I'm quite happy to do simple electronic assembly but I think the
    numeric keypad bit needs to be ready made.

    "keypad programmable entry switch"

    eventually led to this and its brothers:

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005872923669.html


    Might be close to what you want. And it has a pinout, so some chance of checking
    if it might work, and at 3.38 pounds shipped...?

    Yes, thanks Thomas, that does indeed look as if it will do what I want
    and at that price is worth a try. It uses 12 volts which I have
    available nearby already.

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