• Re: Home Office Deep Skirt

    From Tricky Dicky@21:1/5 to Chris Holmes on Sun May 25 09:39:08 2025
    Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> wrote:


    Can somebody remind me…..

    What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder skirts?

    To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp cap?

    Or something else?


    According to Lyvia Electrical it is to keep moisture away from the bulb

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  • From Jack Harry Teesdale@21:1/5 to Tricky Dicky on Sun May 25 11:31:25 2025
    On 25/05/2025 10:39, Tricky Dicky wrote:
    Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> wrote:


    Can somebody remind me…..

    What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder skirts?

    To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp cap?

    Or something else?


    According to Lyvia Electrical it is to keep moisture away from the bulb


    That is unlikely to be achieved.

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  • From Jack Harry Teesdale@21:1/5 to Chris Holmes on Sun May 25 11:30:32 2025
    On 25/05/2025 09:14, Chris Holmes wrote:


    Can somebody remind me…..

    What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder skirts?

    To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp cap?



    That's the basic idea, practically it's queastionable, as it depends on
    the size of the fingers!

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to graham-usenet@mail.com on Sun May 25 11:00:02 2025
    In article <100urp6$1b1kc$1@dont-email.me>,
    Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> wrote:
    Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Can somebody remind me?..What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder skirts?To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp cap?Or something else?

    I presume you mean the screw-on plastic funnel typically supplied
    with a baton or pendent
    Google isn't aware of HODS,
    but "HO skirt" brings them up.

    I wasn't aware of this name and so I have to ask is "home office"
    referring to the places where they might be installed, or the
    Government ministry that mandated them?

    I'm pretty sure the Home Office managed them. This was at the time the Home Office was the relevant ministry for just about everything in the country.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Graham.@21:1/5 to Chris Holmes on Sun May 25 11:35:17 2025
    Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Can somebody remind me?..What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder skirts?To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp cap?Or something else?

    I presume you mean the screw-on plastic funnel typically supplied
    with a baton or pendent
    Google isn't aware of HODS,
    but "HO skirt" brings them up.

    I wasn't aware of this name and so I have to ask is "home office"
    referring to the places where they might be installed, or the
    Government ministry that mandated them?

    --

    Graham.
    %Profound_observation%

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to chrispvholmes@gmail.com on Sun May 25 17:14:50 2025
    On Sun, 25 May 2025 08:14:09 -0000 (UTC), Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> wrote:

    Can somebody remind me..

    What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder skirts?

    To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp cap?

    This was my understanding. Many years ago when I moved house I went to
    an ironmonger asking for a 'Home Office skirt'. The owner not only
    knew what this was but also operated an electrical contracting
    business. I ended up getting him to to a rewire.

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  • From jon@21:1/5 to Chris Holmes on Sun May 25 17:27:53 2025
    On Sun, 25 May 2025 08:14:09 +0000, Chris Holmes wrote:

    Can somebody remind me…..

    What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder skirts?

    To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp cap?

    Or something else?

    All the ones I have used, held a lampshade in place.

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  • From Marland@21:1/5 to charles on Mon May 26 07:54:53 2025
    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
    In article <100urp6$1b1kc$1@dont-email.me>,
    Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> wrote:
    Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Can somebody remind me?..What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder
    skirts?To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp
    cap?Or something else?

    I presume you mean the screw-on plastic funnel typically supplied
    with a baton or pendent
    Google isn't aware of HODS,
    but "HO skirt" brings them up.

    I wasn't aware of this name and so I have to ask is "home office"
    referring to the places where they might be installed, or the
    Government ministry that mandated them?

    I'm pretty sure the Home Office managed them. This was at the time the Home Office was the relevant ministry for just about everything in the country.

    General Assistance Department or Department of Administrative Affairs.?


    GH

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk on Mon May 26 10:00:01 2025
    In article <m9il2dFpb6eU1@mid.individual.net>, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
    In article <100urp6$1b1kc$1@dont-email.me>, Graham.
    <graham-usenet@mail.com> wrote:
    Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Can somebody remind me?..What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder
    skirts?To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp
    cap?Or something else?

    I presume you mean the screw-on plastic funnel typically supplied with
    a baton or pendent Google isn't aware of HODS, but "HO skirt"
    brings them up.

    I wasn't aware of this name and so I have to ask is "home office"
    referring to the places where they might be installed, or the
    Government ministry that mandated them?

    I'm pretty sure the Home Office managed them. This was at the time the
    Home Office was the relevant ministry for just about everything in the country.

    General Assistance Department or Department of Administrative Affairs.?g

    Long before that. There was only The Foreign Officc, The Colonial Office,
    The Treasury and The Home Office - (and The War Offfice & The Admiralty). Everything else is 'modern'


    GH

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Joe on Mon May 26 12:59:11 2025
    On 26/05/2025 12:29, Joe wrote:
    On Mon, 26 May 2025 12:23:40 +0100
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 26/05/2025 11:00, charles wrote:
    Long before that. There was only The Foreign Officc, The Colonial
    Office, The Treasury and The Home Office - (and The War Offfice &
    The Admiralty). Everything else is 'modern'

    ...and could probably be entirely dispensed with.


    But what could you do with the other half million? We don't need that
    many programmers.

    Telephone sanitisers?

    Ive often thought when confronted with an overweight Karen in an
    administrative position she isn't qualified to hold, that the country
    would be better off simply paying such people to stay at home. And the
    male equivalents.

    Socialism holds that people want 'jobs' - when its clear that all people
    really want is money.

    Bread and circuses. The dole, daytime TV and the Internet and plenty of computer games, drugs and occasionally sex.

    I know. I've met them.

    The savings of bypassing all the expensive rigmaroles that go with
    'jobs' - buildings, management, 10 sex toilets, roads, cars, public
    transport, HR, HS, and accounts departments...

    ...would be so great that we could afford to pay them more to stay at
    home than go to work.

    They could all become ArtStudents™ and have ValuableOpinions™ And
    Influence people on the Internet with the dreary stories of their Daily
    Lives.

    Leaving the 10% of working age who actually can Do Stuff to do it
    without tripping over them.


    --
    Labour - a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich
    people by telling poor people that "other" rich people are the reason
    they are poor.

    Peter Thompson

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to charles on Mon May 26 12:23:40 2025
    On 26/05/2025 11:00, charles wrote:
    Long before that. There was only The Foreign Officc, The Colonial Office,
    The Treasury and The Home Office - (and The War Offfice & The Admiralty). Everything else is 'modern'

    ...and could probably be entirely dispensed with.

    --
    “Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.”

    H.L. Mencken, A Mencken Chrestomathy

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  • From Joe@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Mon May 26 12:29:14 2025
    On Mon, 26 May 2025 12:23:40 +0100
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 26/05/2025 11:00, charles wrote:
    Long before that. There was only The Foreign Officc, The Colonial
    Office, The Treasury and The Home Office - (and The War Offfice &
    The Admiralty). Everything else is 'modern'

    ...and could probably be entirely dispensed with.


    But what could you do with the other half million? We don't need that
    many programmers.

    --
    Joe

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  • From Jack Harry Teesdale@21:1/5 to Graham. on Mon May 26 14:23:48 2025
    On 25/05/2025 11:35, Graham. wrote:
    Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Can somebody remind me?..What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder skirts?To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp cap?Or something else?

    I presume you mean the screw-on plastic funnel typically supplied
    with a baton or pendent
    Google isn't aware of HODS,
    but "HO skirt" brings them up.

    I wasn't aware of this name and so I have to ask is "home office"
    referring to the places where they might be installed, or the
    Government ministry that mandated them?

    The Home Office mandated them, hence the name given to them.

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  • From Jack Harry Teesdale@21:1/5 to Chris Holmes on Mon May 26 14:25:23 2025
    On 26/05/2025 11:59, Chris Holmes wrote:
    Graham. <graham-usenet@mail.com> wrote:
    Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Can somebody remind me?..What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder
    skirts?To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp
    cap?Or something else?

    I presume you mean the screw-on plastic funnel typically supplied
    with a baton or pendent
    Google isn't aware of HODS,
    but "HO skirt" brings them up.

    I wasn't aware of this name and so I have to ask is "home office"
    referring to the places where they might be installed, or the
    Government ministry that mandated them?


    I think I have remembered, the deep ones were mandatory in bathrooms, etc.


    Correct.

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to charles on Mon May 26 19:55:35 2025
    On 26/05/2025 11:00, charles wrote:
    In article <m9il2dFpb6eU1@mid.individual.net>, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
    In article <100urp6$1b1kc$1@dont-email.me>, Graham.
    <graham-usenet@mail.com> wrote:
    Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Can somebody remind me?..What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder
    skirts?To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the lamp >>>>> cap?Or something else?

    I presume you mean the screw-on plastic funnel typically supplied with >>>> a baton or pendent Google isn't aware of HODS, but "HO skirt"
    brings them up.

    I wasn't aware of this name and so I have to ask is "home office"
    referring to the places where they might be installed, or the
    Government ministry that mandated them?

    I'm pretty sure the Home Office managed them. This was at the time the
    Home Office was the relevant ministry for just about everything in the
    country.

    General Assistance Department or Department of Administrative Affairs.?g

    Long before that. There was only The Foreign Officc, The Colonial Office,
    The Treasury and The Home Office - (and The War Offfice & The Admiralty). Everything else is 'modern'

    I'm pretty sure Charles would have recognised the nod to "The Men From
    the Ministry".

    --
    Sam Plusnet

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 26 20:15:02 2025
    In article <HO2ZP.93081$swr5.29353@fx14.ams1>, Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> wrote:
    On 26/05/2025 11:00, charles wrote:
    In article <m9il2dFpb6eU1@mid.individual.net>, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
    In article <100urp6$1b1kc$1@dont-email.me>, Graham.
    <graham-usenet@mail.com> wrote:
    Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Can somebody remind me?..What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder
    skirts?To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the
    lamp cap?Or something else?

    I presume you mean the screw-on plastic funnel typically supplied
    with a baton or pendent Google isn't aware of HODS, but "HO skirt"
    brings them up.

    I wasn't aware of this name and so I have to ask is "home office"
    referring to the places where they might be installed, or the
    Government ministry that mandated them?

    I'm pretty sure the Home Office managed them. This was at the time
    the Home Office was the relevant ministry for just about everything
    in the country.

    General Assistance Department or Department of Administrative
    Affairs.?g

    Long before that. There was only The Foreign Officc, The Colonial
    Office, The Treasury and The Home Office - (and The War Offfice & The Admiralty). Everything else is 'modern'

    I'm pretty sure Charles would have recognised the nod to "The Men From
    the Ministry".

    I recognised "Yes, Minister"

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Harry Bloomfield Esq@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Tue May 27 22:45:31 2025
    On 26/05/2025 12:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    They could all become ArtStudents™ and have ValuableOpinions™ And Influence people on the Internet with the dreary stories of their Daily Lives.

    Leaving the 10% of working age who actually can Do Stuff to do it
    without tripping over them.

    +1

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  • From Harry Bloomfield Esq@21:1/5 to Joe on Tue May 27 22:43:23 2025
    On 26/05/2025 12:29, Joe wrote:
    But what could you do with the other half million? We don't need that
    many programmers.

    They could become brickies, plasters, plumbers, electrians - and build
    some of the much needed housing?

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Wed May 28 04:54:28 2025
    On 26 May 2025 at 12:59:11 BST, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 26/05/2025 12:29, Joe wrote:
    On Mon, 26 May 2025 12:23:40 +0100
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 26/05/2025 11:00, charles wrote:
    Long before that. There was only The Foreign Officc, The Colonial
    Office, The Treasury and The Home Office - (and The War Offfice &
    The Admiralty). Everything else is 'modern'

    ...and could probably be entirely dispensed with.


    But what could you do with the other half million? We don't need that
    many programmers.

    Telephone sanitisers?

    Ive often thought when confronted with an overweight Karen in an administrative position she isn't qualified to hold, that the country
    would be better off simply paying such people to stay at home. And the
    male equivalents.

    Socialism holds that people want 'jobs' - when its clear that all people really want is money.

    Bread and circuses. The dole, daytime TV and the Internet and plenty of computer games, drugs and occasionally sex.

    I know. I've met them.

    The savings of bypassing all the expensive rigmaroles that go with
    'jobs' - buildings, management, 10 sex toilets, roads, cars, public transport, HR, HS, and accounts departments...

    ...would be so great that we could afford to pay them more to stay at
    home than go to work.

    They could all become ArtStudents™ and have ValuableOpinions™ And Influence people on the Internet with the dreary stories of their Daily Lives.

    Leaving the 10% of working age who actually can Do Stuff to do it
    without tripping over them.

    David Graeber'd already covered this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs

    --
    Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

    "The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities
    committed by his own side, but he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them."
    -- George Orwell

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  • From me9@21:1/5 to charles on Mon Jun 2 02:16:45 2025
    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

    In article <m9il2dFpb6eU1@mid.individual.net>, Marland <gemehabal@btinternet.co.uk> wrote:
    charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
    In article <100urp6$1b1kc$1@dont-email.me>, Graham.
    <graham-usenet@mail.com> wrote:
    Chris Holmes <chrispvholmes@gmail.com> Wrote in message:
    Can somebody remind me?..What is the purpose of HODS bulb holder skirts?To stop fingers coming into contact with any part of the
    lamp cap?Or something else?

    I presume you mean the screw-on plastic funnel typically supplied
    with
    a baton or pendent Google isn't aware of HODS, but "HO skirt"
    brings them up.

    I wasn't aware of this name and so I have to ask is "home office" referring to the places where they might be installed, or the Government ministry that mandated them?

    I'm pretty sure the Home Office managed them. This was at the time the Home Office was the relevant ministry for just about everything in the country.

    General Assistance Department or Department of Administrative Affairs.?g

    Long before that. There was only The Foreign Officc, The Colonial Office,
    The Treasury and The Home Office - (and The War Offfice & The Admiralty). Everything else is 'modern'

    You forgot teh post office. A Government department responsible for much
    more than it does now.


    --
    braind

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