• Looking for suppliers of solid wood kitchen doors and drawer fronts

    From Chris Green@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 26 13:19:23 2025
    I'm looking for suppliers of solid wood kitchen doors and drawer
    fronts. I'm not having much success so far. It's easy to find
    suppliers who claim to supply these things but when you get to their
    web sites they are mostly:-

    Painted wood which is **not** what I want, I want them to look like
    wood.

    Always the same 'natural oak' or painted finish which seems to imply
    they're all selling the same stuff from a single supplier.

    Not really solid wood, just a wood finish of some sort.


    I just want solid wood, unpainted or varnished in fairly simple
    design, just a flat panel with raised surround ('shaker') or similar.
    Light Oak would be OK but I'd like some choice really, beech or ash
    would probably be our preference. I need some 'standard' sizes but
    also some non-standard ones.

    A supplier of 'bulk' flat panels of 16/18/20mm thick might do, I have
    a table saw for cutting and a router, I can then do the custom sizes
    myself. It might be a bit cheaper this way too.


    Any/all ideas most welcome.

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    Chris Green
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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Mon May 26 12:57:50 2025
    On 26 May 2025 at 13:19:23 BST, Chris Green wrote:

    I'm looking for suppliers of solid wood kitchen doors and drawer
    fronts. I'm not having much success so far. It's easy to find
    suppliers who claim to supply these things but when you get to their
    web sites they are mostly:-

    Painted wood which is **not** what I want, I want them to look like
    wood.

    Always the same 'natural oak' or painted finish which seems to imply
    they're all selling the same stuff from a single supplier.

    Not really solid wood, just a wood finish of some sort.


    I just want solid wood, unpainted or varnished in fairly simple
    design, just a flat panel with raised surround ('shaker') or similar.
    Light Oak would be OK but I'd like some choice really, beech or ash
    would probably be our preference. I need some 'standard' sizes but
    also some non-standard ones.

    A supplier of 'bulk' flat panels of 16/18/20mm thick might do, I have
    a table saw for cutting and a router, I can then do the custom sizes
    myself. It might be a bit cheaper this way too.


    Any/all ideas most welcome.

    I'm sure these people will knock some together for you:

    https://myfathersheart.com

    --
    Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK

    "My humble friend, we know not how to live this life which is so short yet seek one that never ends."
    -- Anatole France

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to RJH on Mon May 26 14:08:13 2025
    RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
    On 26 May 2025 at 13:19:23 BST, Chris Green wrote:

    I'm looking for suppliers of solid wood kitchen doors and drawer
    fronts. I'm not having much success so far. It's easy to find
    suppliers who claim to supply these things but when you get to their
    web sites they are mostly:-

    Painted wood which is **not** what I want, I want them to look like
    wood.

    Always the same 'natural oak' or painted finish which seems to imply
    they're all selling the same stuff from a single supplier.

    Not really solid wood, just a wood finish of some sort.


    I just want solid wood, unpainted or varnished in fairly simple
    design, just a flat panel with raised surround ('shaker') or similar.
    Light Oak would be OK but I'd like some choice really, beech or ash
    would probably be our preference. I need some 'standard' sizes but
    also some non-standard ones.

    A supplier of 'bulk' flat panels of 16/18/20mm thick might do, I have
    a table saw for cutting and a router, I can then do the custom sizes myself. It might be a bit cheaper this way too.


    Any/all ideas most welcome.

    I'm sure these people will knock some together for you:

    https://myfathersheart.com

    Yes, however they don't really seem to be into supplying just some
    drawer fronts, they want to sell complete bespoke kitchens. I also
    suspect that their prices might be a bit beyond me! :-)

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  • From No mail@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Mon May 26 16:46:14 2025
    Chris Green wrote:
    I'm looking for suppliers of solid wood kitchen doors and drawer
    fronts. I'm not having much success so far. It's easy to find
    suppliers who claim to supply these things but when you get to their
    web sites they are mostly:-

    Painted wood which is **not** what I want, I want them to look like
    wood.

    Always the same 'natural oak' or painted finish which seems to imply
    they're all selling the same stuff from a single supplier.

    Not really solid wood, just a wood finish of some sort.


    I just want solid wood, unpainted or varnished in fairly simple
    design, just a flat panel with raised surround ('shaker') or similar.
    Light Oak would be OK but I'd like some choice really, beech or ash
    would probably be our preference. I need some 'standard' sizes but
    also some non-standard ones.

    A supplier of 'bulk' flat panels of 16/18/20mm thick might do, I have
    a table saw for cutting and a router, I can then do the custom sizes
    myself. It might be a bit cheaper this way too.


    Any/all ideas most welcome.

    It's very straightforward to make them yourself. 80x20 Ash for the
    "frame" and 6mm veneered MDF for the panel. Simple joints will work
    because the panel isn't going to move. If you want a profile on the
    inner edges then either route it or use beading.

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  • From RJH@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Mon May 26 15:21:26 2025
    On 26 May 2025 at 14:08:13 BST, Chris Green wrote:

    RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:
    On 26 May 2025 at 13:19:23 BST, Chris Green wrote:

    I'm looking for suppliers of solid wood kitchen doors and drawer
    fronts. I'm not having much success so far. It's easy to find
    suppliers who claim to supply these things but when you get to their
    web sites they are mostly:-

    Painted wood which is **not** what I want, I want them to look like
    wood.

    Always the same 'natural oak' or painted finish which seems to imply
    they're all selling the same stuff from a single supplier.

    Not really solid wood, just a wood finish of some sort.


    I just want solid wood, unpainted or varnished in fairly simple
    design, just a flat panel with raised surround ('shaker') or similar.
    Light Oak would be OK but I'd like some choice really, beech or ash
    would probably be our preference. I need some 'standard' sizes but
    also some non-standard ones.

    A supplier of 'bulk' flat panels of 16/18/20mm thick might do, I have
    a table saw for cutting and a router, I can then do the custom sizes
    myself. It might be a bit cheaper this way too.


    Any/all ideas most welcome.

    I'm sure these people will knock some together for you:

    https://myfathersheart.com

    Yes, however they don't really seem to be into supplying just some
    drawer fronts, they want to sell complete bespoke kitchens. I also
    suspect that their prices might be a bit beyond me! :-)

    Stratospheric apparently. But then maybe that's what it costs. Insofar as it's a measure of anything, no flash cars in the car park.

    Might be worth contacting them all the same. At the very least they might know someone.

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to No mail on Mon May 26 19:53:43 2025
    No mail <nomail@aolbin.com> wrote:
    Chris Green wrote:
    I'm looking for suppliers of solid wood kitchen doors and drawer
    fronts. I'm not having much success so far. It's easy to find
    suppliers who claim to supply these things but when you get to their
    web sites they are mostly:-

    Painted wood which is **not** what I want, I want them to look like
    wood.

    Always the same 'natural oak' or painted finish which seems to imply
    they're all selling the same stuff from a single supplier.

    Not really solid wood, just a wood finish of some sort.


    I just want solid wood, unpainted or varnished in fairly simple
    design, just a flat panel with raised surround ('shaker') or similar.
    Light Oak would be OK but I'd like some choice really, beech or ash
    would probably be our preference. I need some 'standard' sizes but
    also some non-standard ones.

    A supplier of 'bulk' flat panels of 16/18/20mm thick might do, I have
    a table saw for cutting and a router, I can then do the custom sizes myself. It might be a bit cheaper this way too.


    Any/all ideas most welcome.

    It's very straightforward to make them yourself. 80x20 Ash for the
    "frame" and 6mm veneered MDF for the panel. Simple joints will work
    because the panel isn't going to move. If you want a profile on the
    inner edges then either route it or use beading.

    Yes, I guess I may have to go this way. Any suggestions for supplier(s)
    of 80x20 Ash and matching veneered MDF?

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    Chris Green
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to RJH on Mon May 26 20:54:09 2025
    On 26/05/2025 16:21, RJH wrote:
    I just want solid wood, unpainted or varnished in fairly simple
    design, just a flat panel with raised surround ('shaker') or similar.

    Solid wood of any width greater than about 6" warps and twists.
    Forget it.

    Either use [veneered] plywood/blockboad/chipboard/MDF or split the units
    into smaller panels and learn to do cabinet making.


    --
    "The great thing about Glasgow is that if there's a nuclear attack it'll
    look exactly the same afterwards."

    Billy Connolly

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  • From No mail@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Tue May 27 09:26:14 2025
    Chris Green wrote:
    No mail <nomail@aolbin.com> wrote:
    Chris Green wrote:
    I'm looking for suppliers of solid wood kitchen doors and drawer
    fronts. I'm not having much success so far. It's easy to find
    suppliers who claim to supply these things but when you get to their
    web sites they are mostly:-

    Painted wood which is **not** what I want, I want them to look like
    wood.

    Always the same 'natural oak' or painted finish which seems to imply >>> they're all selling the same stuff from a single supplier.

    Not really solid wood, just a wood finish of some sort.


    I just want solid wood, unpainted or varnished in fairly simple
    design, just a flat panel with raised surround ('shaker') or similar.
    Light Oak would be OK but I'd like some choice really, beech or ash
    would probably be our preference. I need some 'standard' sizes but
    also some non-standard ones.

    A supplier of 'bulk' flat panels of 16/18/20mm thick might do, I have
    a table saw for cutting and a router, I can then do the custom sizes
    myself. It might be a bit cheaper this way too.


    Any/all ideas most welcome.

    It's very straightforward to make them yourself. 80x20 Ash for the
    "frame" and 6mm veneered MDF for the panel. Simple joints will work
    because the panel isn't going to move. If you want a profile on the
    inner edges then either route it or use beading.

    Yes, I guess I may have to go this way. Any suggestions for supplier(s)
    of 80x20 Ash and matching veneered MDF?

    Errr, speak to your local wood yard, or search <PAR Ash> and <ash veneer


    If you can find someone with a decent bandsaw, planer and thicknesser
    you could buy sawn boards and machine them to whatever size you need.

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Tue May 27 09:07:32 2025
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 26/05/2025 16:21, RJH wrote:
    I just want solid wood, unpainted or varnished in fairly simple
    design, just a flat panel with raised surround ('shaker') or similar.

    Solid wood of any width greater than about 6" warps and twists.
    Forget it.

    Either use [veneered] plywood/blockboad/chipboard/MDF or split the units
    into smaller panels and learn to do cabinet making.

    It's an "all drawers" set up so the biggest pieces will be less than
    300mm high by 500mm wide (all 500mm units). Thus a 'shaker' type style
    wouldn't have any wide panels at all. If the surrounding strip is
    60mm that leaves a central panel of 180mm by 380mm or thereabouts..

    The simplest D_I_Y approach would be a thin[nish] sheet of plywood or
    similar with the surrounding strips made of solid wood. I think my joinery/carpentry skills are just about up to something like that.

    However there is still the issue of where to buy, for example, ash
    battens and matching veneered plywood.

    So, any suggestions for suppliers please, it's not something I've got
    in my suppliers list.

    We bought ready made doors in ash for our kitchen I fitted over 20
    years ago, still beautiful. Simple panels with an 85mm surround and
    drawer fronts are flat 115mm x 20mm solid. If I could find a supplier
    to do the same then that would be perfect.

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Tue May 27 09:56:35 2025
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    It's an "all drawers" set up so the biggest pieces will be less than
    300mm high by 500mm wide (all 500mm units). Thus a 'shaker' type style wouldn't have any wide panels at all. If the surrounding strip is
    60mm that leaves a central panel of 180mm by 380mm or thereabouts..

    The simplest D_I_Y approach would be a thin[nish] sheet of plywood or
    similar with the surrounding strips made of solid wood. I think my joinery/carpentry skills are just about up to something like that.

    If you mitre the corners and then route a slot for the ply to drop into, it sounds fairly straightforward. Main thing will be getting the corners
    tight (dowels/biscuits/dominos?).

    However there is still the issue of where to buy, for example, ash
    battens and matching veneered plywood.

    So, any suggestions for suppliers please, it's not something I've got
    in my suppliers list.

    This is very location dependent - unless you're buying a truckload a
    supplier is going to hit you with a big shipping charge if you aren't local.

    Cocking Sawmill (West Sussex)
    https://www.englishwoodlandstimber.co.uk/
    is one on my list to visit when I'm in the area.

    (sawmills are less likely to carry 'stock' and more likely to cut things to order. So don't be put off if their website doesn't list exactly what you
    want - you need to ask)

    Veneered ply as an engineered wood is likely to come from a different source
    to the straight timber, because it's made in a factory not a sawmill.
    Unless the sawmill also does their own veneering.

    We bought ready made doors in ash for our kitchen I fitted over 20
    years ago, still beautiful. Simple panels with an 85mm surround and
    drawer fronts are flat 115mm x 20mm solid. If I could find a supplier
    to do the same then that would be perfect.

    You could probably find a local joinery shop to do the above job if you
    don't want to. They'll benefit from being able to jig all the cutting so everything is identical and really accurate saws so it's all square.
    Possibly some of the timber yards also provide that service.

    Theo

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  • From No mail@21:1/5 to Theo on Tue May 27 13:14:17 2025
    Theo wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    It's an "all drawers" set up so the biggest pieces will be less than
    300mm high by 500mm wide (all 500mm units). Thus a 'shaker' type style
    wouldn't have any wide panels at all. If the surrounding strip is
    60mm that leaves a central panel of 180mm by 380mm or thereabouts..

    The simplest D_I_Y approach would be a thin[nish] sheet of plywood or
    similar with the surrounding strips made of solid wood. I think my
    joinery/carpentry skills are just about up to something like that.

    If you mitre the corners and then route a slot for the ply to drop into, it sounds fairly straightforward. Main thing will be getting the corners
    tight (dowels/biscuits/dominos?).
    Mitre joints for this are a bad idea - they will open as the wood moves.
    It needs to be T&G or (maybe) pocket screws

    However there is still the issue of where to buy, for example, ash
    battens and matching veneered plywood.

    So, any suggestions for suppliers please, it's not something I've got
    in my suppliers list.

    This is very location dependent - unless you're buying a truckload a
    supplier is going to hit you with a big shipping charge if you aren't local.

    Cocking Sawmill (West Sussex)
    https://www.englishwoodlandstimber.co.uk/
    is one on my list to visit when I'm in the area.

    (sawmills are less likely to carry 'stock' and more likely to cut things to order. So don't be put off if their website doesn't list exactly what you want - you need to ask)

    Veneered ply as an engineered wood is likely to come from a different source to the straight timber, because it's made in a factory not a sawmill.
    Unless the sawmill also does their own veneering.

    We bought ready made doors in ash for our kitchen I fitted over 20
    years ago, still beautiful. Simple panels with an 85mm surround and
    drawer fronts are flat 115mm x 20mm solid. If I could find a supplier
    to do the same then that would be perfect.

    You could probably find a local joinery shop to do the above job if you
    don't want to. They'll benefit from being able to jig all the cutting so everything is identical and really accurate saws so it's all square.
    Possibly some of the timber yards also provide that service.

    Theo


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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Timatmarford on Tue May 27 15:40:57 2025
    Timatmarford <tim@marford.uk.com> wrote:
    On 27/05/2025 13:14, No mail wrote:
    Theo wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    It's an "all drawers" set up so the biggest pieces will be less than
    300mm high by 500mm wide (all 500mm units). Thus a 'shaker' type style >>> wouldn't have any wide panels at all.  If the surrounding strip is
    60mm that leaves a central panel of 180mm by 380mm or thereabouts..

    The simplest D_I_Y approach would be a thin[nish] sheet of plywood or
    similar with the surrounding strips made of solid wood. I think my
    joinery/carpentry skills are just about up to something like that.

    If you mitre the corners and then route a slot for the ply to drop
    into, it
    sounds fairly straightforward.  Main thing will be getting the corners
    tight (dowels/biscuits/dominos?).
    Mitre joints for this are a bad idea - they will open as the wood moves.
    It needs to be T&G or (maybe) pocket screws

    For stiffening mitre joints in picture frames etc. I have cut slots
    across the corners and glued in thin ply etc.

    Isn't that what biscuits or dominos do? They're just a ready made piece of
    ply with a convenient tool to make the slot.

    (%^&%$&! pricey, in the case of the Domino)

    Theo

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  • From Timatmarford@21:1/5 to No mail on Tue May 27 15:27:43 2025
    On 27/05/2025 13:14, No mail wrote:
    Theo wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    It's an "all drawers" set up so the biggest pieces will be less than
    300mm high by 500mm wide (all 500mm units). Thus a 'shaker' type style
    wouldn't have any wide panels at all.  If the surrounding strip is
    60mm that leaves a central panel of 180mm by 380mm or thereabouts..

    The simplest D_I_Y approach would be a thin[nish] sheet of plywood or
    similar with the surrounding strips made of solid wood. I think my
    joinery/carpentry skills are just about up to something like that.

    If you mitre the corners and then route a slot for the ply to drop
    into, it
    sounds fairly straightforward.  Main thing will be getting the corners
    tight (dowels/biscuits/dominos?).
    Mitre joints for this are a bad idea - they will open as the wood moves.
    It needs to be T&G or (maybe) pocket screws

    For stiffening mitre joints in picture frames etc. I have cut slots
    across the corners and glued in thin ply etc.

    Snip.

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  • From No mail@21:1/5 to Timatmarford on Tue May 27 18:07:24 2025
    Timatmarford wrote:
    On 27/05/2025 13:14, No mail wrote:
    Theo wrote:
    Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
    It's an "all drawers" set up so the biggest pieces will be less than
    300mm high by 500mm wide (all 500mm units). Thus a 'shaker' type style >>>> wouldn't have any wide panels at all.  If the surrounding strip is
    60mm that leaves a central panel of 180mm by 380mm or thereabouts..

    The simplest D_I_Y approach would be a thin[nish] sheet of plywood or
    similar with the surrounding strips made of solid wood. I think my
    joinery/carpentry skills are just about up to something like that.

    If you mitre the corners and then route a slot for the ply to drop
    into, it
    sounds fairly straightforward.  Main thing will be getting the corners
    tight (dowels/biscuits/dominos?).
    Mitre joints for this are a bad idea - they will open as the wood
    moves. It needs to be T&G or (maybe) pocket screws

    For stiffening mitre joints in picture frames etc. I have cut slots
    across the corners and glued in thin ply etc.

    Snip.


    Yes, I do that for narrow frames (using a contrasting hardwood) but
    wouldn't do it for a door. Today I've been machining some wide MDF
    architrave to go around a large attic trap door and used biscuits to
    align the corners because the ceiling isn't flat

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