Quote: The satellite records used to show much smaller warming trends for
the troposphere which were considered to disagree with model prediction; >however, following revisions to the satellite records, the trends are now >similar. Unquote
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surface_temperature>
In message <m9u15vFk7jcU1@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<aero.spike@mail.com> writes
Quote: The satellite records used to show much smaller warming trends for
the troposphere which were considered to disagree with model prediction;
however, following revisions to the satellite records, the trends are now
similar. Unquote
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surface_temperature>
It's explained here :-
<https://www.carbonbrief.org/study-why-troposphere-warming-differs-betwee n-models-and-satellite-data/>
"Because the tropospheric temperature estimates from satellites overlap
with part of the stratosphere, they end up combining a bit of
stratospheric cooling with tropospheric warming and can underestimate
the true rate of warming. To avoid this issue, the new study applies a correction to remove some of the stratospheric cooling from the TMT
series. The approach they use for this is described in a previous paper published in the Journal of Climate."
B
brian <nospam@b-howie.co.uk> wrote:
In message <m9u15vFk7jcU1@mid.individual.net>, Spike
<aero.spike@mail.com> writes
Quote: The satellite records used to show much smaller warming
trends for the troposphere which were considered to disagree with
model prediction; however, following revisions to the satellite
records, the trends are now similar. Unquote
<https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_surface_temperature>
It's explained here :-
<https://www.carbonbrief.org/study-why-troposphere-warming-differs-betwee n-models-and-satellite-data/>
"Because the tropospheric temperature estimates from satellites
overlap with part of the stratosphere, they end up combining a bit
of stratospheric cooling with tropospheric warming and can
underestimate the true rate of warming. To avoid this issue, the
new study applies a correction to remove some of the stratospheric
cooling from the TMT series. The approach they use for this is
described in a previous paper published in the Journal of Climate."
B
It’s astonishing that so much correction has been applied to data,
quite a lot of it to fit the results from modelling. Scientifically,
the models should be adjusted to fit the data, but science was
ushered out of the debate a long time ago.
Didn’t the chap who put together the data from the Central England Temperature Record resign due to the way his data was being
‘adjusted’?
Anyway, the article says (quote) “Overall, the study suggests that
while tropospheric warming has not accelerated to the extent that
models have predicted in recent years, there’s little evidence that
it has slowed down.”(unquote)
Again, we see temperature differences, in this case it’s troposphere temperatures, being put down to other factors than inadequate
modelling. What would happen, apart from the gravy-train crash, if
models were adjusted to fit the data, like good science would demand?
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