• Re: [OT] PANEL header

    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Tue Jun 17 14:48:19 2025
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    On 17/06/2025 in message
    <20250617141512.88123d55c3812cdc60098b99@gmail.com> pinnerite wrote:

    The system panel header on my motherboard has 20 pin positions of which
    5 are unpopulated. in fact two are blank (no pins).

    I want to test the motherboard out of the case.

    I would have thought that by now someone would have produced a plug
    holding the LEDs and the speaker that could be plugged in for testing.
    I cannot find one. I have tried several search strings without success.

    I am tempted to ask ChatGPT to look but it has been lying to me
    recently.

    Any ideas?

    I have just used one of these in a re-build:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0D6W55RBW

    Could it be the basis of building what you want?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Tue Jun 17 17:04:48 2025
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    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    The system panel header on my motherboard has 20 pin positions of which
    5 are unpopulated. in fact two are blank (no pins).

    I want to test the motherboard out of the case.

    I would have thought that by now someone would have produced a plug
    holding the LEDs and the speaker that could be plugged in for testing.
    I cannot find one. I have tried several search strings without success.

    TBH I just short the power-on pins with a screwdriver, which is enough to
    power up the mobo. You can tell it's on if the fans spin.

    You can buy the lights and buttons on a wire if that's what you really want: https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005003908130705.html

    which leads me to a UK version of same:
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/146630680316
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285836377485 https://www.amazon.co.uk/AYMBH-ATX-Power-Switch-Cable/dp/B0DL3S7TNN https://www.amazon.co.uk/Desktop-Computer-Motherboard-Indicator-27-inch/dp/B09J8MY3CM
    (and a million sellers of the same things)

    I am tempted to ask ChatGPT to look but it has been lying to me
    recently.

    I'm shocked.

    Theo

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Tue Jun 17 13:11:01 2025
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    On Tue, 6/17/2025 9:15 AM, pinnerite wrote:
    The system panel header on my motherboard has 20 pin positions of which
    5 are unpopulated. in fact two are blank (no pins).

    I want to test the motherboard out of the case.

    I would have thought that by now someone would have produced a plug
    holding the LEDs and the speaker that could be plugged in for testing.
    I cannot find one. I have tried several search strings without success.

    I am tempted to ask ChatGPT to look but it has been lying to me
    recently.

    Any ideas?


    I keep a 1x2 female to push-button-switch for this, on my desk.

    Slide the push button onto the PWR and GND pins.

    If you haven't got the shakes too bad, you can even
    take a large slothead screwdriver and slide it between
    the PWR pin and the adjacent GND pin. It just takes
    a momentary contact to start a motherboard. The
    switch type is SPST momentary normally-open.

    If you have a computer case that is being sent to the
    trash, remove the wiring harnesses from it and keep them
    for later usage. You can extract the power switch, twisted pair,
    and 1x2 connector from the case wiring.

    Some spacings on computer wiring, are "variable". Not every
    motherboard uses the same spacing. The shrouds on the twisted
    pairs, you can back out the female pins and change the spacing,
    on demand. I have re-positioned pins on more than one occasion,
    as the need arose. You will need an Xacto blade knife, to slide
    under the retainer plastic and lift it a bit, so the pin can
    be backed out.

    Paul

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  • From SteveW@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Tue Jun 17 20:38:42 2025
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    On 17/06/2025 14:15, pinnerite wrote:
    The system panel header on my motherboard has 20 pin positions of which
    5 are unpopulated. in fact two are blank (no pins).

    I want to test the motherboard out of the case.

    I would have thought that by now someone would have produced a plug
    holding the LEDs and the speaker that could be plugged in for testing.
    I cannot find one. I have tried several search strings without success.

    Not all the LEDs, but there are things like this:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/External-Desktop-Computer-Motherboard-Ports-160CM/dp/B08WZ361VH

    Which I use, as the power switch on my PC case has failed and this was
    the easiest fix.

    There may be versions with more connectors and functions.

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  • From SteveW@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Tue Jun 17 20:43:00 2025
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    On 17/06/2025 17:37, pinnerite wrote:
    On 17 Jun 2025 17:04:48 +0100 (BST)
    Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    The system panel header on my motherboard has 20 pin positions of which
    5 are unpopulated. in fact two are blank (no pins).

    I want to test the motherboard out of the case.

    I would have thought that by now someone would have produced a plug
    holding the LEDs and the speaker that could be plugged in for testing.
    I cannot find one. I have tried several search strings without success.

    TBH I just short the power-on pins with a screwdriver, which is enough to
    power up the mobo. You can tell it's on if the fans spin.

    You can buy the lights and buttons on a wire if that's what you really want: >> https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005003908130705.html

    which leads me to a UK version of same:
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/146630680316
    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/285836377485
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/AYMBH-ATX-Power-Switch-Cable/dp/B0DL3S7TNN
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Desktop-Computer-Motherboard-Indicator-27-inch/dp/B09J8MY3CM
    (and a million sellers of the same things)

    I am tempted to ask ChatGPT to look but it has been lying to me
    recently.

    I'm shocked.

    Theo

    Thanks but I was ioping for a single plug with all the bits on it.
    The cable version just replicates what's in the case.
    I didn't want to fiddle around with the individual plugs.

    There are definitely extension leads with a single connector at the
    motherboard end and a single block of pins at the other - I threw one
    away because I didn't need it. Plug a switch, LEDs and speaker into the
    pin end, tape up and then use the other end to test motherboards?

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Tue Jun 17 21:28:22 2025
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    pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    Thanks but I was ioping for a single plug with all the bits on it.
    The cable version just replicates what's in the case.
    I didn't want to fiddle around with the individual plugs.

    There is no standard. Individual manufacturers have their own conventions,
    but the reason there isn't one connector is you have to double check the pinouts with the motherboard manual. Some use the same header but wire it
    in different ways.

    Theo

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  • From Bernard Peek@21:1/5 to pinnerite on Wed Jun 18 18:44:14 2025
    On 2025-06-17, pinnerite <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote:
    The system panel header on my motherboard has 20 pin positions of which
    5 are unpopulated. in fact two are blank (no pins).

    Different manufacturers use different pinouts. You can put a couple of
    switches and LEDs on a breadboard and hook it up with jumper cables or put a PCB in a little box and attach flying leads. My favourite containers for
    this sort of thing are SMINT or Tic-Tac boxes.


    --
    Bernard Peek
    bap@shrdlu.com
    Wigan

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