• SATA PCIe Cards

    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 29 14:38:51 2025
    I think I have found a card that just works:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124178148650

    Ordered 22 June, delivered 28 June £29.98 including postage. Fitted it,
    plugged in 8 x drives (mix of SSD and spinners) re-booted and there it was
    in all its glory, no delays, all drives available. It identifies itself as Avago copyright 2015.

    The two I had to return to Amazon were:

    LSI SAS 9207-8i KIT 8-Port 6Gbps SATA+SAS PCI-E 3.0 HBA Kit - same as the Chinese one but £150 and very flakey.

    StarTech.com 8 Port SATA PCIe Card - £100, just couldn't manage 8 x drives.

    Highly recommended.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sun Jun 29 15:56:18 2025
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I think I have found a card that just works: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124178148650

    Looks like a good 'un

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Sun Jun 29 20:50:10 2025
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I think I have found a card that just works:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124178148650

    Ordered 22 June, delivered 28 June £29.98 including postage. Fitted it, plugged in 8 x drives (mix of SSD and spinners) re-booted and there it was
    in all its glory, no delays, all drives available. It identifies itself as Avago copyright 2015.

    The two I had to return to Amazon were:

    LSI SAS 9207-8i KIT 8-Port 6Gbps SATA+SAS PCI-E 3.0 HBA Kit - same as the Chinese one but £150 and very flakey.

    StarTech.com 8 Port SATA PCIe Card - £100, just couldn't manage 8 x drives.

    Avago bought LSI in 2013 and in 2016 bought Broadcom. Then Avago renamed
    the company back to Broadcom. So they're the same LSI chips all along, it's not clear why you had problems with the 9207-8i and not the 9200-8i. The
    9207 uses the SAS2308 controller and the 9200 the SAS2008, so the 9207 is
    a generation newer. The 2008 is PCIe Gen 2 and the 2308 Gen3, which may be
    a bottleneck if doing SSD or RAID things but is otherwise probably OK.

    But there's a lot of variability with firmware on enterprise kit, or maybe
    you just got a bad card. Anyhow it's a Proper HBA so is a much better
    option than the consumer stuff. The only thing to watch for is that the
    power consumption may be a bit higher.

    Theo

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Theo on Mon Jun 30 07:22:24 2025
    On 29/06/2025 in message <Msg*8yggA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo wrote:

    But there's a lot of variability with firmware on enterprise kit, or maybe >you just got a bad card. Anyhow it's a Proper HBA so is a much better
    option than the consumer stuff. The only thing to watch for is that the >power consumption may be a bit higher.

    The main thing for me is avoiding an earworm starting "Avago Joe, you've
    got to Avago...". Don't know if anybody here is old enough for that one?

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Mon Jun 30 03:23:24 2025
    On Sun, 6/29/2025 10:38 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I think I have found a card that just works:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124178148650

    Ordered 22 June, delivered 28 June £29.98 including postage. Fitted it, plugged in 8 x drives (mix of SSD and spinners) re-booted and there it was in all its glory, no delays, all drives available. It identifies itself as Avago copyright 2015.

    The two I had to return to Amazon were:

    LSI SAS 9207-8i KIT 8-Port 6Gbps SATA+SAS PCI-E 3.0 HBA Kit - same as the Chinese one but £150 and very flakey.

    StarTech.com 8 Port SATA PCIe Card - £100, just couldn't manage 8 x drives.

    Highly recommended.


    That's the smaller brother of one of these, not using a PCIe switch chip. You're doing a 530MB/sec connection on a 500MB/sec lane, so it's in the
    "right ballpark of perfection". You could load it with eight 870EVO 2.5" SSD for
    example, if you wanted to do that. And would be unlikely to see a bottleneck
    by doing so.

    https://www.servethehome.com/lsi-9202-16/

    Officially the card draws 17 Watts (compared to 7 watts for the usual SAS2008 card)

    So your card draws 7 watts. Which is ballpark for some motherboard Southbridge chips
    (with a heatsink on them).

    Paul

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to wasbit on Mon Jun 30 08:40:54 2025
    On 30/06/2025 in message <103ti7v$22she$1@dont-email.me> wasbit wrote:

    On 30/06/2025 08:22, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 29/06/2025 in message <Msg*8yggA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo >>wrote:

    But there's a lot of variability with firmware on enterprise kit, or >>>maybe
    you just got a bad card.  Anyhow it's a Proper HBA so is a much better >>>option than the consumer stuff.  The only thing to watch for is that the >>>power consumption may be a bit higher.

    The main thing for me is avoiding an earworm starting "Avago Joe, you've >>got to Avago...". Don't know if anybody here is old enough for that one?


    Followed by "Put the money on the table, Mabel"?

    That's the one :-)

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  • From wasbit@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Mon Jun 30 09:35:12 2025
    On 30/06/2025 08:22, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 29/06/2025 in message <Msg*8yggA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo
    wrote:

    But there's a lot of variability with firmware on enterprise kit, or
    maybe
    you just got a bad card.  Anyhow it's a Proper HBA so is a much better
    option than the consumer stuff.  The only thing to watch for is that the
    power consumption may be a bit higher.

    The main thing for me is avoiding an earworm starting "Avago Joe, you've
    got to Avago...". Don't know if anybody here is old enough for that one?


    Followed by "Put the money on the table, Mabel"?


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    wasbit

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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Mon Jun 30 13:15:46 2025
    Jeff Gaines <jgnewsid@outlook.com> wrote:

    I think I have found a card that just works:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124178148650

    Ordered 22 June, delivered 28 June £29.98 including postage. Fitted it, plugged in 8 x drives (mix of SSD and spinners) re-booted and there it was
    in all its glory, no delays, all drives available. It identifies itself as Avago copyright 2015.

    The two I had to return to Amazon were:

    LSI SAS 9207-8i KIT 8-Port 6Gbps SATA+SAS PCI-E 3.0 HBA Kit - same as the Chinese one but £150 and very flakey.

    StarTech.com 8 Port SATA PCIe Card - £100, just couldn't manage 8 x drives.

    Highly recommended.

    A postscript that I happened upon an AM5 mobo with 8 SATA ports, the Asus PRIME B650M-A
    AX II: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/9HVmP6/asus-prime-b650m-a-ax-ii-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-prime-b650m-a-ax-ii

    and its predecessor the Asus PRIME B650M-A AX.

    Something I'll keep in mind for a future build...

    Theo

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  • From Sam Plusnet@21:1/5 to wasbit on Mon Jun 30 20:01:59 2025
    On 30/06/2025 09:35, wasbit wrote:
    On 30/06/2025 08:22, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 29/06/2025 in message <Msg*8yggA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> Theo
    wrote:

    But there's a lot of variability with firmware on enterprise kit, or
    maybe
    you just got a bad card.  Anyhow it's a Proper HBA so is a much better
    option than the consumer stuff.  The only thing to watch for is that the >>> power consumption may be a bit higher.

    The main thing for me is avoiding an earworm starting "Avago Joe,
    you've got to Avago...". Don't know if anybody here is old enough for
    that one?


    Followed by "Put the money on the table, Mabel"?

    The days when "Can I do you now, Sir?" would have the whole country
    rolling on the floor in laughter.

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    Sam Plusnet

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