I have found a fairly old WD My Book Essential drive (which I think I >previously wiped). I thought this might be useful as a backup drive
but it won't work at the moment. Three ideas:
1. Wrong power supply. However, the power supply I am using is for
another WD My Book drive and it (the drive) lights up inside.
2. The drive is mechanically faulty. I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
3. It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
Any ideas? Thanks.
Scott wrote:
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
not sure if "stiction" affects post-90s drive?
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
it needs to show in device manager / disk management before it will show
in file explorer.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:40:26 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:
Scott wrote:Thank you. It shows in device manager, so I assume this rules out incompatibility of the power supply. Status = this device is working properly. It does not show in file explorer. Will this be because it
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
not sure if "stiction" affects post-90s drive?
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
it needs to show in device manager / disk management before it will show
in file explorer.
is not formatted?
How do I format it if it does not show in file
explorer?
I can't image it could be because it was formatted for
Windows 7?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:40:26 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:
Scott wrote:Thank you. It shows in device manager, so I assume this rules out incompatibility of the power supply. Status = this device is working properly. It does not show in file explorer. Will this be because it
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
not sure if "stiction" affects post-90s drive?
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
it needs to show in device manager / disk management before it will show
in file explorer.
is not formatted? How do I format it if it does not show in file
explorer? I can't image it could be because it was formatted for
Windows 7?
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
On 30/06/2025 13:53, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:40:26 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:
Scott wrote:Thank you. It shows in device manager, so I assume this rules out
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
not sure if "stiction" affects post-90s drive?
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
it needs to show in device manager / disk management before it will show >>> in file explorer.
incompatibility of the power supply. Status = this device is working
properly. It does not show in file explorer. Will this be because it
is not formatted?
It is likely it does not even have a partition on it (a non formatted >partition would usually show up)
How do I format it if it does not show in file
explorer?
Control Panel -> System and Security -> Administrative tools -> Create
and format hard disk partitions.
(Or from a windows explorer window, right click on the entry for "This
PC" and select "Manage", then click Disk Management under Storage)
That will then show all the physical drives that the system can see. You >should be able to create a partition on the drive and then format it.
I can't image it could be because it was formatted for
Windows 7?
Seems unlikely - Win 7 would format typically FAT32 or NTFS - both
useable on current versions of windows.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 14:09:40 +0100, John Rumm
<see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 13:53, Scott wrote:Thanks. 'Windows tools' I assume. It says to initialise. MBR or GPT?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:40:26 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:
Scott wrote:Thank you. It shows in device manager, so I assume this rules out
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
not sure if "stiction" affects post-90s drive?
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
it needs to show in device manager / disk management before it will show >>>> in file explorer.
incompatibility of the power supply. Status = this device is working
properly. It does not show in file explorer. Will this be because it
is not formatted?
It is likely it does not even have a partition on it (a non formatted
partition would usually show up)
How do I format it if it does not show in file
explorer?
Control Panel -> System and Security -> Administrative tools -> Create
and format hard disk partitions.
(Or from a windows explorer window, right click on the entry for "This
PC" and select "Manage", then click Disk Management under Storage)
That will then show all the physical drives that the system can see. You
should be able to create a partition on the drive and then format it.
'Disk 2' is not in the main list. Does this reassure me it is the one
to be initialised.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:40:26 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:
Scott wrote:Thank you. It shows in device manager, so I assume this rules out incompatibility of the power supply. Status = this device is working properly. It does not show in file explorer. Will this be because it
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
not sure if "stiction" affects post-90s drive?
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
it needs to show in device manager / disk management before it will show
in file explorer.
is not formatted? How do I format it if it does not show in file
explorer? I can't image it could be because it was formatted for
Windows 7?
On 30/06/2025 13:53, Scott wrote:
Thank you. It shows in device manager, so I assume this rules out
incompatibility of the power supply. Status = this device is working
properly. It does not show in file explorer. Will this be because it
is not formatted? How do I format it if it does not show in file
explorer? I can't image it could be because it was formatted for
Windows 7?
Disk manager has the facility to format it. Pervious it may have been formatted to something windows doesn't recognised - perhaps ext3/4 as
used by a lot of PVRs.
On 30/06/2025 14:38, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 14:09:40 +0100, John Rumm
<see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 13:53, Scott wrote:Thanks. 'Windows tools' I assume. It says to initialise. MBR or GPT?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:40:26 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:
Scott wrote:Thank you. It shows in device manager, so I assume this rules out
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
not sure if "stiction" affects post-90s drive?
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
it needs to show in device manager / disk management before it will show >>>>> in file explorer.
incompatibility of the power supply. Status = this device is working
properly. It does not show in file explorer. Will this be because it
is not formatted?
It is likely it does not even have a partition on it (a non formatted
partition would usually show up)
How do I format it if it does not show in file
explorer?
Control Panel -> System and Security -> Administrative tools -> Create
and format hard disk partitions.
(Or from a windows explorer window, right click on the entry for "This
PC" and select "Manage", then click Disk Management under Storage)
That will then show all the physical drives that the system can see. You >>> should be able to create a partition on the drive and then format it.
Depends on how you want to use the drive. For general compatibility and
ease of access on multiple machines, go for the older Master Boot Record >style partition (MBR).
If you want to boot from the drive on a modern PC with a UEFI bios, then
you would probably need to make it GUID Partition Table (GPT) for a
modern system to actually recognise it.
'Disk 2' is not in the main list. Does this reassure me it is the one
to be initialised.
The top list will only show actual volumes - i.e. formatted partitions
that are (usually) associated with a drive letter (although windows does
not actually require driver letters these days, it is common to use them
for compatibility with older software).
Note that you can have multiple partitions on one physical drive - so
you might have (say) 4 logical volumes mapped onto one physical disk
shown in the lower pane.
If you right click on the physical disk in the lower pane, and select >"Properties" it will give you extra info about the disk - typically
including the manufacturer and model. That can give you the assurance
that you are playing with the right drive. Note that drives on external
USB interfaces might have their identity obscured by the USB interface >adaptor.
So in short, if you want a big lump of space to tote files about, make
the disk MBR, put one "primary" partition on it to fill all the
available space, and then format it as FAT32.
If you to preserve information like file ownership, alternate date
streams etc, then format it as NTFS.
On 30/06/2025 13:53, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:40:26 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:
Scott wrote:Thank you. It shows in device manager, so I assume this rules out
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
not sure if "stiction" affects post-90s drive?
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
it needs to show in device manager / disk management before it will show >>> in file explorer.
incompatibility of the power supply. Status = this device is working
properly. It does not show in file explorer. Will this be because it
is not formatted? How do I format it if it does not show in file
explorer? I can't image it could be because it was formatted for
Windows 7?
Disk manager has the facility to format it. Pervious it may have been >formatted to something windows doesn't recognised - perhaps ext3/4 as
used by a lot of PVRs.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:36:57 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:
On 30/06/2025 13:53, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:40:26 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:
Scott wrote:Thank you. It shows in device manager, so I assume this rules out
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
not sure if "stiction" affects post-90s drive?
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
it needs to show in device manager / disk management before it will show >>>> in file explorer.
incompatibility of the power supply. Status = this device is working
properly. It does not show in file explorer. Will this be because it
is not formatted? How do I format it if it does not show in file
explorer? I can't image it could be because it was formatted for
Windows 7?
Disk manager has the facility to format it. Pervious it may have been >>formatted to something windows doesn't recognised - perhaps ext3/4 as
used by a lot of PVRs.
Great, I think this will be tonight's entertainment.
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:09:38 +0100, John Rumm
<see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 14:38, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 14:09:40 +0100, John Rumm
<see.my.signature@nowhere.null> wrote:
On 30/06/2025 13:53, Scott wrote:Thanks. 'Windows tools' I assume. It says to initialise. MBR or GPT?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:40:26 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> >>>>> wrote:
Scott wrote:Thank you. It shows in device manager, so I assume this rules out
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
not sure if "stiction" affects post-90s drive?
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does >>>>>>> not show in File Explorer.
it needs to show in device manager / disk management before it will show >>>>>> in file explorer.
incompatibility of the power supply. Status = this device is working >>>>> properly. It does not show in file explorer. Will this be because it >>>>> is not formatted?
It is likely it does not even have a partition on it (a non formatted
partition would usually show up)
How do I format it if it does not show in file
explorer?
Control Panel -> System and Security -> Administrative tools -> Create >>>> and format hard disk partitions.
(Or from a windows explorer window, right click on the entry for "This >>>> PC" and select "Manage", then click Disk Management under Storage)
That will then show all the physical drives that the system can see. You >>>> should be able to create a partition on the drive and then format it.
Depends on how you want to use the drive. For general compatibility and
ease of access on multiple machines, go for the older Master Boot Record
style partition (MBR).
If you want to boot from the drive on a modern PC with a UEFI bios, then
you would probably need to make it GUID Partition Table (GPT) for a
modern system to actually recognise it.
'Disk 2' is not in the main list. Does this reassure me it is the one
to be initialised.
The top list will only show actual volumes - i.e. formatted partitions
that are (usually) associated with a drive letter (although windows does
not actually require driver letters these days, it is common to use them
for compatibility with older software).
Note that you can have multiple partitions on one physical drive - so
you might have (say) 4 logical volumes mapped onto one physical disk
shown in the lower pane.
If you right click on the physical disk in the lower pane, and select
"Properties" it will give you extra info about the disk - typically
including the manufacturer and model. That can give you the assurance
that you are playing with the right drive. Note that drives on external
USB interfaces might have their identity obscured by the USB interface
adaptor.
So in short, if you want a big lump of space to tote files about, make
the disk MBR, put one "primary" partition on it to fill all the
available space, and then format it as FAT32.
If you to preserve information like file ownership, alternate date
streams etc, then format it as NTFS.
Great, thanks. This was my assumption but I wanted to check in case I
trashed the wrong drive. Why FAT32 though when the rest of the PC is
NTFS?
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:50:37 +0100, Scott
<newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 18:36:57 +0100, alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk>
wrote:
On 30/06/2025 13:53, Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 13:40:26 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:
Scott wrote:Thank you. It shows in device manager, so I assume this rules out
I would be surprised if a drive
could become faulty due to non-use.
not sure if "stiction" affects post-90s drive?
It needs to be initialised or whatever after being wiped. It does
not show in File Explorer.
it needs to show in device manager / disk management before it will show >>>>> in file explorer.
incompatibility of the power supply. Status = this device is working
properly. It does not show in file explorer. Will this be because it
is not formatted? How do I format it if it does not show in file
explorer? I can't image it could be because it was formatted for
Windows 7?
Disk manager has the facility to format it. Pervious it may have been
formatted to something windows doesn't recognised - perhaps ext3/4 as
used by a lot of PVRs.
Great, I think this will be tonight's entertainment.
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