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  • How to Remove 'Reply' from toolbar

    From Fredxx@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 19 15:07:01 2025
    Yes, I have foolishly updated Thunderbird and I now have a Reply button
    before Followup.

    I have removed or move the Reply button in the past but cannot fathom
    how to repeat this.

    Any clues would be gratefully received.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 19 16:04:25 2025
    On 19/07/2025 15:26, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 15:07, Fredxx wrote:
    Yes, I have foolishly updated Thunderbird and I now have a Reply
    button before Followup.

    I have removed or move the Reply button in the past but cannot fathom
    how to repeat this.

    Any clues would be gratefully received.

    Simples.
    Right click the reply button.
    Select "customise toolbar"
    Click the Reply button and select "hide"
    Click "close"

    Job done, drink beer.

    Andy


    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize

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  • From mm0fmf@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Sat Jul 19 15:26:52 2025
    On 19/07/2025 15:07, Fredxx wrote:
    Yes, I have foolishly updated Thunderbird and I now have a Reply button before Followup.

    I have removed or move the Reply button in the past but cannot fathom
    how to repeat this.

    Any clues would be gratefully received.

    Simples.
    Right click the reply button.
    Select "customise toolbar"
    Click the Reply button and select "hide"
    Click "close"

    Job done, drink beer.

    Andy

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 19 16:20:03 2025
    On 19/07/2025 04:04 PM, GB wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 15:26, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 15:07, Fredxx wrote:
    Yes, I have foolishly updated Thunderbird and I now have a Reply
    button before Followup.

    I have removed or move the Reply button in the past but cannot fathom
    how to repeat this.

    Any clues would be gratefully received.

    Simples.
    Right click the reply button.
    Select "customise toolbar"
    Click the Reply button and select "hide"
    Click "close"

    Job done, drink beer.

    Andy


    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize

    Thank you for confirmation of the problem. The "Reply" button is a pain
    right where it hurts, since it just where you need the Followup button
    to be.

    I use an older verion of Thunderbird. No problems at all.

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 19 17:29:06 2025
    On 19/07/2025 15:26, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 15:07, Fredxx wrote:
    Yes, I have foolishly updated Thunderbird and I now have a Reply
    button before Followup.

    I have removed or move the Reply button in the past but cannot fathom
    how to repeat this.

    Any clues would be gratefully received.

    Simples.
    Right click the reply button.
    Select "customise toolbar"
    Click the Reply button and select "hide"
    Click "close"

    Job done, drink beer.

    Drinking beer is very simple but the right click on the reply button,
    less so.

    I'm sure it use to work but I think JNugent's idea is becoming the best solution.

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  • From mm0fmf@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 20 09:42:17 2025
    On 19/07/2025 16:04, GB wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 15:26, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 15:07, Fredxx wrote:
    Yes, I have foolishly updated Thunderbird and I now have a Reply
    button before Followup.

    I have removed or move the Reply button in the past but cannot fathom
    how to repeat this.

    Any clues would be gratefully received.

    Simples.
    Right click the reply button.
    Select "customise toolbar"
    Click the Reply button and select "hide"
    Click "close"

    Job done, drink beer.

    Andy


    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize


    Ah! Turns out I have an ESR version installed here. I now remember
    switching to an ESR version to save me from the constant fuck-ups, sorry
    UI re-designs that the release versions suffer from.

    I'm loathed to try the latest Thunderbird now for this problem alone.

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  • From David Wade@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 20 10:50:33 2025
    On 20/07/2025 09:42, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 16:04, GB wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 15:26, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 15:07, Fredxx wrote:
    Yes, I have foolishly updated Thunderbird and I now have a Reply
    button before Followup.

    I have removed or move the Reply button in the past but cannot
    fathom how to repeat this.

    Any clues would be gratefully received.

    Simples.
    Right click the reply button.
    Select "customise toolbar"
    Click the Reply button and select "hide"
    Click "close"

    Job done, drink beer.

    Andy


    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize


    Ah! Turns out I have an ESR version installed here. I now remember
    switching to an ESR version to save me from the constant fuck-ups, sorry
    UI re-designs that the release versions suffer from.

    I'm loathed to try the latest Thunderbird now for this problem alone.

    the add-in mentioned above seems to fix it.

    Dave

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  • From Harry Bloomfield Esq@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 20 11:04:21 2025
    On 19/07/2025 16:04, GB wrote:
    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize


    I have the same problem, with the 'Reply' button, but even a search
    fails to find the add-on by that name, or anything similar. I'm running
    the latest T/bird.

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to Harry Bloomfield Esq on Sun Jul 20 11:35:36 2025
    On 20/07/2025 11:04, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 16:04, GB wrote:
    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize


    I have the same problem, with the 'Reply' button, but even a search
    fails to find the add-on by that name, or anything similar. I'm running
    the latest T/bird.

    tools/add ons and themes/themes/extensions

    Search for "Message Header Toolbar Customize"

    _NOTE_ the American spelling of customise

    I'm running Tbird 128.12.0esr


    --
    mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

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  • From David Wade@21:1/5 to Harry Bloomfield Esq on Sun Jul 20 11:37:40 2025
    On 20/07/2025 11:04, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 16:04, GB wrote:
    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize


    I have the same problem, with the 'Reply' button, but even a search
    fails to find the add-on by that name, or anything similar. I'm running
    the latest T/bird.

    Such a pity we can't post pictures. I have

    "Message Header Toolbar Customize"

    https://services.addons.thunderbird.net/EN-gb/thunderbird/addon/msghdr-toolbar-customize/

    (you will have to fix URL)

    Dave

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  • From mm0fmf@21:1/5 to David Wade on Sun Jul 20 15:47:39 2025
    On 20/07/2025 10:50, David Wade wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 09:42, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 16:04, GB wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 15:26, mm0fmf wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 15:07, Fredxx wrote:
    Yes, I have foolishly updated Thunderbird and I now have a Reply
    button before Followup.

    I have removed or move the Reply button in the past but cannot
    fathom how to repeat this.

    Any clues would be gratefully received.

    Simples.
    Right click the reply button.
    Select "customise toolbar"
    Click the Reply button and select "hide"
    Click "close"

    Job done, drink beer.

    Andy


    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize


    Ah! Turns out I have an ESR version installed here. I now remember
    switching to an ESR version to save me from the constant fuck-ups,
    sorry UI re-designs that the release versions suffer from.

    I'm loathed to try the latest Thunderbird now for this problem alone.

    the add-in mentioned above seems to fix it.

    Dave
    I had a play with v140 on Linux and found you can't simply change the
    buttons any more. It's good to know that there is a plug in to solve a
    problem that wasn't a problem till the upgrade ;-)

    Also if you run version 140 on a profile created by version 128 then it
    changes the profile so you cannot go back to version 128. I suspected I
    had read 140 did this so made a profile back before trying 140.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Sun Jul 20 16:21:29 2025
    Fredxx wrote:

    I have foolishly updated Thunderbird and I now have a Reply button
    before Followup.

    In the main toolbar, or the message header toolbar?#

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Harry Bloomfield Esq on Sun Jul 20 16:41:57 2025
    Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:

    GB wrote:

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize

    I have the same problem, with the 'Reply' button, but even a search
    fails to find the add-on by that name
    It isn't compatible with TB v140, the author has been reasonably good at updating it for new TB releases in the past

    <https://hogi.sakura.ne.jp/en/index.rhtml>

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to JNugent on Sun Jul 20 17:42:58 2025
    JNugent wrote:

    The "Reply" button is a pain right where it hurts, since it just where
    you need the Followup button to be.

    Right click the message pane header, tick the "hide header toolbar"
    option, go back to using the good old main toolbar, where the reply
    icon does what you expect it to ...

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  • From Harry Bloomfield Esq@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 21 14:11:10 2025
    On 20/07/2025 11:35, alan_m wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:04, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 16:04, GB wrote:
    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize


    I have the same problem, with the 'Reply' button, but even a search
    fails to find the add-on by that name, or anything similar. I'm
    running the latest T/bird.

    tools/add ons and themes/themes/extensions

    Search for "Message Header Toolbar Customize"

    _NOTE_ the American spelling of customise

    I'm running Tbird 128.12.0esr



    Still shows 'No Results found - I'm running 140.0

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Harry Bloomfield Esq on Mon Jul 21 18:04:23 2025
    On 21/07/2025 14:11, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:35, alan_m wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:04, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 16:04, GB wrote:
    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize


    I have the same problem, with the 'Reply' button, but even a search
    fails to find the add-on by that name, or anything similar. I'm
    running the latest T/bird.

    tools/add ons and themes/themes/extensions

    Search for "Message Header Toolbar Customize"

    _NOTE_ the American spelling of customise

    I'm running Tbird 128.12.0esr



    Still shows 'No Results found - I'm running 140.0

    Ah. Its available here https://hogi.sakura.ne.jp/en/downloadcgi.rhtml?msghdrcust

    --
    When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over
    the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that
    authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.

    Frédéric Bastiat

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Harry Bloomfield Esq on Mon Jul 21 18:00:21 2025
    On 21/07/2025 14:11, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:35, alan_m wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:04, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 16:04, GB wrote:
    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize


    I have the same problem, with the 'Reply' button, but even a search
    fails to find the add-on by that name, or anything similar. I'm
    running the latest T/bird.

    tools/add ons and themes/themes/extensions

    Search for "Message Header Toolbar Customize"

    _NOTE_ the American spelling of customise

    I'm running Tbird 128.12.0esr



    Still shows 'No Results found - I'm running 140.0

    I have it installed - for t bird version 78!
    I dont think it exists any more
    --
    All political activity makes complete sense once the proposition that
    all government is basically a self-legalising protection racket, is
    fully understood.

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Mon Jul 21 18:32:03 2025
    On 21/07/2025 18:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 21/07/2025 14:11, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:35, alan_m wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:04, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 16:04, GB wrote:
    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize


    I have the same problem, with the 'Reply' button, but even a search
    fails to find the add-on by that name, or anything similar. I'm
    running the latest T/bird.

    tools/add ons and themes/themes/extensions

    Search for "Message Header Toolbar Customize"

    _NOTE_ the American spelling of customise

    I'm running Tbird 128.12.0esr



    Still shows 'No Results found - I'm running 140.0

    I have it installed - for t bird version 78!
    I dont think it exists any more


    <https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-GB/thunderbird/addon/msghdr-toolbar-customize/?src=search>

    or

    https://tinyurl.com/5xcc8ddj



    According to that page only for V128 to 138

    Alternative download for V2.4.4 Released 23March this year.

    https://tinyurl.com/4n8vcvzs

    As posted earlier it probably is still being actively maintained and
    there may soon be a version fo TB140

    --
    mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 21 22:07:26 2025
    On 21/07/2025 18:32, alan_m wrote:
    On 21/07/2025 18:00, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 21/07/2025 14:11, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:35, alan_m wrote:
    On 20/07/2025 11:04, Harry Bloomfield Esq wrote:
    On 19/07/2025 16:04, GB wrote:
    That used to work perfectly, exactly as you explained it. Now, it
    doesn't work, except "drink beer" always works.

    I have an add-on that sorts out the problem, nattily called:
    Message Header Toolbar Customize


    I have the same problem, with the 'Reply' button, but even a search
    fails to find the add-on by that name, or anything similar. I'm
    running the latest T/bird.

    tools/add ons and themes/themes/extensions

    Search for "Message Header Toolbar Customize"

    _NOTE_ the American spelling of customise

    I'm running Tbird 128.12.0esr



    Still shows 'No Results found - I'm running 140.0

    I have it installed - for t bird version 78!
    I dont think it exists any more


    <https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-GB/thunderbird/addon/msghdr-toolbar-customize/?src=search>

    or

    https://tinyurl.com/5xcc8ddj



    According to that page only for V128 to 138

    Alternative download for V2.4.4  Released 23March this year.

    https://tinyurl.com/4n8vcvzs

    As posted earlier it probably is still being actively maintained and
    there may soon be a version fo TB140

    I installed the latest and it works for me.
    --
    For in reason, all government without the consent of the governed is the
    very definition of slavery.

    Jonathan Swift

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Mon Jul 21 22:10:50 2025
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    alan_m wrote:

    Alternative download for V2.4.4  Released 23March this year.

    https://tinyurl.com/4n8vcvzs

    As posted earlier it probably is still being actively maintained and
    there may soon be a version for TB140

    I installed the latest and it works for me.

    The latest is a 'special' version that has no maximum TB version check.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Jul 21 22:12:14 2025
    On 21/07/2025 22:10, Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    alan_m wrote:

    Alternative download for V2.4.4  Released 23March this year.

    https://tinyurl.com/4n8vcvzs

    As posted earlier it probably is still being actively maintained and
    there may soon be a version for TB140

    I installed the latest and it works for me.

    The latest is a 'special' version that has no maximum TB version check.


    I am on 115.18 T-bird

    I picked the one that supported that.

    --
    I was brought up to believe that you should never give offence if you
    can avoid it; the new culture tells us you should always take offence if
    you can. There are now experts in the art of taking offence, indeed
    whole academic subjects, such as 'gender studies', devoted to it.

    Sir Roger Scruton

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Jul 21 22:14:39 2025
    On 21/07/2025 22:10, Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    alan_m wrote:

    Alternative download for V2.4.4  Released 23March this year.

    https://tinyurl.com/4n8vcvzs

    As posted earlier it probably is still being actively maintained and
    there may soon be a version for TB140

    I installed the latest and it works for me.

    The latest is a 'special' version that has no maximum TB version check.


    I am on 2.4.1 updated 25 July 2025
    --
    I was brought up to believe that you should never give offence if you
    can avoid it; the new culture tells us you should always take offence if
    you can. There are now experts in the art of taking offence, indeed
    whole academic subjects, such as 'gender studies', devoted to it.

    Sir Roger Scruton

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to JNugent on Mon Jul 21 22:29:18 2025
    On 21/07/2025 22:19, JNugent wrote:
    On 21/07/2025 10:14 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 21/07/2025 22:10, Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    alan_m wrote:

    Alternative download for V2.4.4  Released 23March this year.

    https://tinyurl.com/4n8vcvzs

    As posted earlier it probably is still being actively maintained and >>>>> there may soon be a version for TB140

    I installed the latest and it works for me.

    The latest is a 'special' version that has no maximum TB version check.

    I am on 2.4.1 updated 25 July 2025

    I. OTOH, am still using Thunderbird version 24.1.0 (years old by now)
    which doesn't present the user with the problem of the unwanted and apparently unmovable "reply" button.

    No. That appeared on version 78

    The extension is very good and works on all later models but isn't
    routinely 'found' by T-bird

    --
    “It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established
    authorities are wrong.”

    ― Voltaire, The Age of Louis XIV

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Mon Jul 21 22:19:29 2025
    On 21/07/2025 10:14 PM, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    On 21/07/2025 22:10, Andy Burns wrote:
    The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    alan_m wrote:

    Alternative download for V2.4.4 Released 23March this year.

    https://tinyurl.com/4n8vcvzs

    As posted earlier it probably is still being actively maintained and
    there may soon be a version for TB140

    I installed the latest and it works for me.

    The latest is a 'special' version that has no maximum TB version check.

    I am on 2.4.1 updated 25 July 2025

    I. OTOH, am still using Thunderbird version 24.1.0 (years old by now)
    which doesn't present the user with the problem of the unwanted and
    apparently unmovable "reply" button.

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