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    From Tricky Dicky@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 28 15:52:28 2025
    One of my UPVC doors needs adjustment as the spigots of the Espagnol
    locking system are catching on the vertical lip of the receptacles for
    them.

    Catch side

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zl0eh6npl8jdvdodwg0su/2025-07-28-16.26.20.jpg?rlkey=ns8r4og3vh6cp7hmghq7kky8t&st=7nw48dsh&dl=0

    There does not appear to be any adjustment possible of the catch plate nor
    the locking mechanism other than the spigots which appear to be able to be rotated eccentrically, but already seem at their highest setting offering
    no further adjustment.

    I was wondering if any adjustment can be made with the hinges as I suspect there is some contact of the bottom edge of the door, however I am not
    familiar with the type of hinges.

    External of a hinge

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/oc1v5yxrlauj8oylciwof/2025-07-28-16.25.28.jpg?rlkey=zs4mnplzgmesutvcojpglgwil&st=18oqytka&dl=0

    Internal of hinge

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dpyvehw7o8w2rysfw2rk7/2025-07-28-16.25.50.jpg?rlkey=qkpv9kxzxon2mhg4g289n5ua6&st=wyf6wg1w&dl=0

    From the internal view you can see two Phillips screws and in the centre a small Allen grub screw. On the external view the two grey dots seem to be
    just plastic plugs.

    Before I start tinkering with the system does anyone have any experience of these hinges or am I looking at the wrong end?

    Richard

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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to Tricky Dicky on Mon Jul 28 17:17:21 2025
    On 28/07/2025 16:52, Tricky Dicky wrote:


    External of a hinge

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/oc1v5yxrlauj8oylciwof/2025-07-28-16.25.28.jpg?rlkey=zs4mnplzgmesutvcojpglgwil&st=18oqytka&dl=0



    From the internal view you can see two Phillips screws and in the centre a small Allen grub screw. On the external view the two grey dots seem to be just plastic plugs.

    Before I start tinkering with the system does anyone have any experience of these hinges or am I looking at the wrong end?

    Richard


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtfIW5nTrbQ

    There are other Youtube videos showing other hinge adjustments (search
    for DG hinge adjust)

    I had a door with hinges that look like yours
    I had to move the top of the door to the right BUT found that I also had
    the move the bottom and middle hinges to the left to achieve the desired movement. Little adjustments of all three hinges at a time.

    I also found that marking the original position of the door on the frame
    to be helpful for judging the subsequent movement. I just traced the
    corner and edge with a feint pencil line.


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  • From Tricky Dicky@21:1/5 to junk@admac.myzen.co.uk on Mon Jul 28 16:39:54 2025
    alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    On 28/07/2025 16:52, Tricky Dicky wrote:


    External of a hinge

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/oc1v5yxrlauj8oylciwof/2025-07-28-16.25.28.jpg?rlkey=zs4mnplzgmesutvcojpglgwil&st=18oqytka&dl=0



    From the internal view you can see two Phillips screws and in the centre a >> small Allen grub screw. On the external view the two grey dots seem to be
    just plastic plugs.

    Before I start tinkering with the system does anyone have any experience of >> these hinges or am I looking at the wrong end?

    Richard


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtfIW5nTrbQ

    There are other Youtube videos showing other hinge adjustments (search
    for DG hinge adjust)

    I had a door with hinges that look like yours
    I had to move the top of the door to the right BUT found that I also had
    the move the bottom and middle hinges to the left to achieve the desired movement. Little adjustments of all three hinges at a time.

    I also found that marking the original position of the door on the frame
    to be helpful for judging the subsequent movement. I just traced the
    corner and edge with a feint pencil line.



    Thanks Alan for a moment I thought I had cracked it but on removing the
    black end caps did not reveal a screw of any sort for up down adjustment.
    The only adjustment it seems is the two screw visible on the internal view which the presenter claims are for adjusting the in/out.

    I have another look at the catch plate and there are two eccentric
    adjustments at the top and bottom

    Top of catchplate


    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ncw2x1hsnuo2l82aoanv9/2025-07-28-17.30.47.jpg?rlkey=b87o8h00i0o7zu7yqp56ubch7&st=tibybdzi&dl=0

    As you can see there are four fixing screws in the photo and 15 in total
    over the full length of the catch plate fixing it either directly to the
    UPVC frame or maybe a back plate but they do not seem to allow any
    adjustment.

    Richard

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  • From Tricky Dicky@21:1/5 to Dicky on Mon Jul 28 16:54:18 2025
    Tricky Dicky <tricky.dicky@sky.com> wrote:
    One of my UPVC doors needs adjustment as the spigots of the Espagnol
    locking system are catching on the vertical lip of the receptacles for
    them.

    Catch side

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/zl0eh6npl8jdvdodwg0su/2025-07-28-16.26.20.jpg?rlkey=ns8r4og3vh6cp7hmghq7kky8t&st=7nw48dsh&dl=0

    There does not appear to be any adjustment possible of the catch plate nor the locking mechanism other than the spigots which appear to be able to be rotated eccentrically, but already seem at their highest setting offering
    no further adjustment.

    I was wondering if any adjustment can be made with the hinges as I suspect there is some contact of the bottom edge of the door, however I am not familiar with the type of hinges.

    External of a hinge

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/oc1v5yxrlauj8oylciwof/2025-07-28-16.25.28.jpg?rlkey=zs4mnplzgmesutvcojpglgwil&st=18oqytka&dl=0

    Internal of hinge

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dpyvehw7o8w2rysfw2rk7/2025-07-28-16.25.50.jpg?rlkey=qkpv9kxzxon2mhg4g289n5ua6&st=wyf6wg1w&dl=0

    From the internal view you can see two Phillips screws and in the centre a small Allen grub screw. On the external view the two grey dots seem to be just plastic plugs.

    Before I start tinkering with the system does anyone have any experience of these hinges or am I looking at the wrong end?

    Richard


    Had a bit of a play with the hinges. There are four in total, the top two
    the there is no movement when adjusting the screws. The bottom two did have some adjustment and turning them clockwise slightly pushed the door away
    from the frame in effect twisting the door in its frame and that has had
    the effect of raising the spigots slightly so they slide over the lip of
    their respective receptacles but that is all the adjustment possible now
    and the door is closing better but for how long?

    Richard

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Tricky Dicky on Mon Jul 28 17:25:48 2025
    Tricky Dicky wrote:

    I was wondering if any adjustment can be made with the hinges

    My hinges (chunkier trojan flag hinges) have multiple adustments on the
    same screw, e.g. a single rotation will pull the door in an direction
    and back in a eccentric cam, but over the course ov several rotations it
    will lift or drop the door.

    suggest mark position with a felt tip, and have a play with
    screwdriver/allen key.

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