One incidental question arising from this is where have male drivers over
65 gone, if outnumbered 5 to 2 by female drivers?
The AI stats came from Statista and gov.uk sources.
I asked DuckDuckGos AI a question about the number of UK driving
licences held, broken down by age ranges, following yet another TV news
item regarding the carnage in the roads caused by medically-challenged
older drivers. The response I received included these consecutive
statements:
QUOTE
Older Drivers (55+ years): There are 7 million drivers aged 65 and over,
with a higher number of female licence holders (5 million) compared to
males (2 million).
# Gender Trends
The data indicates that male drivers outnumber female drivers across all
age groups, although the gap narrows in younger age brackets. For
instance, in the 17-24 years category, the difference is less pronounced compared to older age groups. UNQUOTE
It would seem that the AI bot doesnt check what it writes.
One incidental question arising from this is where have male drivers over
65 gone, if outnumbered 5 to 2 by female drivers?
Across all the age ranges mentioned, the number of driving licences held
is a consistent 7 million.
The AI stats came from Statista and gov.uk sources.
-- Spi
One incidental question arising from this is where have male drivers overThey have died. Men tend to live shorter lived than women. I know quite a number of ladies about my age (85) whose husbands have died.
65 gone, if outnumbered 5 to 2 by female drivers?
On 02/08/2025 in message <mf6410F6d93U1@mid.individual.net> Spike wrote:
One incidental question arising from this is where have male drivers over
65 gone, if outnumbered 5 to 2 by female drivers?
They are dead, women live longer than men because we look after them so
well.
I asked DuckDuckGo’s AI a question about the number of UK driving licences held, broken down by age ranges, following yet another TV news item
regarding the carnage in the roads caused by medically-challenged older drivers. The response I received included these consecutive statements:
QUOTE
Older Drivers (55+ years): There are 7 million drivers aged 65 and over,
with a higher number of female licence holders (5 million) compared to
males (2 million).
🚗 Gender Trends
The data indicates that male drivers outnumber female drivers across all
age groups, although the gap narrows in younger age brackets. For instance, in the 17-24 years category, the difference is less pronounced compared to older age groups.
UNQUOTE
It would seem that the AI bot doesn’t check what it writes.
One incidental question arising from this is where have male drivers over
65 gone, if outnumbered 5 to 2 by female drivers?
Across all the age ranges mentioned, the number of driving licences held is
a consistent 7 million.
The AI stats came from Statista and gov.uk sources.
On 02/08/2025 10:28, Spike wrote:
The AI stats came from Statista and gov.uk sources.
https://www.data.gov.uk/dataset/d0be1ed2-9907-4ec4-b552-c048f6aec16a/driving-licence-data
On 02/08/2025 10:28, Spike wrote:
I asked DuckDuckGo’s AI a question about the number of UK driving licences >> held, broken down by age ranges, following yet another TV news item
regarding the carnage in the roads caused by medically-challenged older
drivers. The response I received included these consecutive statements:
QUOTE
Older Drivers (55+ years): There are 7 million drivers aged 65 and over,
with a higher number of female licence holders (5 million) compared to
males (2 million).
🚗 Gender Trends
The data indicates that male drivers outnumber female drivers across all
age groups, although the gap narrows in younger age brackets. For instance, >> in the 17-24 years category, the difference is less pronounced compared to >> older age groups.
UNQUOTE
It would seem that the AI bot doesn’t check what it writes.
One incidental question arising from this is where have male drivers over
65 gone, if outnumbered 5 to 2 by female drivers?
Across all the age ranges mentioned, the number of driving licences held is >> a consistent 7 million.
The AI stats came from Statista and gov.uk sources.
The weird aspect is that AI is so self-confident.
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side only
Peter Able <stuck@home.com> wrote:
On 02/08/2025 10:28, Spike wrote:
I asked DuckDuckGo’s AI a question about the number of UK driving licences
held, broken down by age ranges, following yet another TV news item
regarding the carnage in the roads caused by medically-challenged older
drivers. The response I received included these consecutive statements:
QUOTE
Older Drivers (55+ years): There are 7 million drivers aged 65 and over, >>> with a higher number of female licence holders (5 million) compared to
males (2 million).
🚗 Gender Trends
The data indicates that male drivers outnumber female drivers across all >>> age groups, although the gap narrows in younger age brackets. For instance, >>> in the 17-24 years category, the difference is less pronounced compared to >>> older age groups.
UNQUOTE
It would seem that the AI bot doesn’t check what it writes.
One incidental question arising from this is where have male drivers over >>> 65 gone, if outnumbered 5 to 2 by female drivers?
Across all the age ranges mentioned, the number of driving licences held is >>> a consistent 7 million.
The AI stats came from Statista and gov.uk sources.
The weird aspect is that AI is so self-confident.
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side only
oops…
On 02/08/2025 10:28, Spike wrote:
I asked DuckDuckGo’s AI a question about the number of UK driving
licences
held, broken down by age ranges, following yet another TV news item
regarding the carnage in the roads caused by medically-challenged older
drivers. The response I received included these consecutive statements:
QUOTE
Older Drivers (55+ years): There are 7 million drivers aged 65 and over,
with a higher number of female licence holders (5 million) compared to
males (2 million).
🚗 Gender Trends
The data indicates that male drivers outnumber female drivers across all
age groups, although the gap narrows in younger age brackets. For
instance,
in the 17-24 years category, the difference is less pronounced
compared to
older age groups.
UNQUOTE
It would seem that the AI bot doesn’t check what it writes.
One incidental question arising from this is where have male drivers over
65 gone, if outnumbered 5 to 2 by female drivers?
Across all the age ranges mentioned, the number of driving licences
held is
a consistent 7 million.
The AI stats came from Statista and gov.uk sources.
The weird aspect is that AI is so self-confident.
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side only
On 02/08/2025 18:29, Peter Able wrote:
The weird aspect is that AI is so self-confident.Some of us remember when singles had three sides.
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side only
Peter Able <stuck@home.com> wrote:
On 02/08/2025 10:28, Spike wrote:
I asked DuckDuckGo’s AI a question about the number of UK driving licences
held, broken down by age ranges, following yet another TV news item
regarding the carnage in the roads caused by medically-challenged older
drivers. The response I received included these consecutive statements:
QUOTE
Older Drivers (55+ years): There are 7 million drivers aged 65 and over, >>> with a higher number of female licence holders (5 million) compared to
males (2 million).
🚗 Gender Trends
The data indicates that male drivers outnumber female drivers across all >>> age groups, although the gap narrows in younger age brackets. For instance, >>> in the 17-24 years category, the difference is less pronounced compared to >>> older age groups.
UNQUOTE
It would seem that the AI bot doesn’t check what it writes.
One incidental question arising from this is where have male drivers over >>> 65 gone, if outnumbered 5 to 2 by female drivers?
Across all the age ranges mentioned, the number of driving licences held is >>> a consistent 7 million.
The AI stats came from Statista and gov.uk sources.
The weird aspect is that AI is so self-confident.
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side only
oops…
On 02/08/2025 10:28, Spike wrote:
I asked DuckDuckGo’s AI a question about the number of UK driving licences >> held, broken down by age ranges, following yet another TV news item
regarding the carnage in the roads caused by medically-challenged older
drivers. The response I received included these consecutive statements:
QUOTE
Older Drivers (55+ years): There are 7 million drivers aged 65 and over,
with a higher number of female licence holders (5 million) compared to
males (2 million).
🚗 Gender Trends
The data indicates that male drivers outnumber female drivers across all
age groups, although the gap narrows in younger age brackets. For instance, >> in the 17-24 years category, the difference is less pronounced compared to >> older age groups.
UNQUOTE
It would seem that the AI bot doesn’t check what it writes.
One incidental question arising from this is where have male drivers over
65 gone, if outnumbered 5 to 2 by female drivers?
Across all the age ranges mentioned, the number of driving licences held is >> a consistent 7 million.
The AI stats came from Statista and gov.uk sources.
The weird aspect is that AI is so self-confident.
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side only
On 2 Aug 2025 at 18:29:02 BST, Peter Able wrote:
On 02/08/2025 10:28, Spike wrote:
I asked DuckDuckGo’s AI a question about the number of UK driving >>>licences
held, broken down by age ranges, following yet another TV news item >>>regarding the carnage in the roads caused by medically-challenged older >>>drivers. The response I received included these consecutive statements:
QUOTE
Older Drivers (55+ years): There are 7 million drivers aged 65 and over, >>>with a higher number of female licence holders (5 million) compared to >>>males (2 million).
🚗 Gender Trends
The data indicates that male drivers outnumber female drivers across all >>>age groups, although the gap narrows in younger age brackets. For >>>instance,
in the 17-24 years category, the difference is less pronounced compared >>>to
older age groups.
UNQUOTE
It would seem that the AI bot doesn’t check what it writes.
One incidental question arising from this is where have male drivers over >>>65 gone, if outnumbered 5 to 2 by female drivers?
Across all the age ranges mentioned, the number of driving licences held >>>is
a consistent 7 million.
The AI stats came from Statista and gov.uk sources.
The weird aspect is that AI is so self-confident.
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side only
Mmmm. Google AI is returning: 'Usually, 45s contain one song per side,
which
is why they are commonly referred to as singles'.
Maybe your Goggle AI's broken ;-)
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side only
Mmmm. Google AI is returning: 'Usually, 45s contain one song per side,
which
is why they are commonly referred to as singles'.
Maybe your Goggle AI's broken ;-)
Or it is monitoring Usenet and learning...
...Great minds ...Maybe your Goggle AI's broken 😉
Or it is monitoring Usenet and learning...
I asked DuckDuckGo’s AI a question about the number of UK driving licences held, broken down by age ranges, following yet another TV news item
regarding the carnage in the roads caused by medically-challenged older drivers. The response I received included these consecutive statements:
QUOTE
Older Drivers (55+ years): There are 7 million drivers aged 65 and over,
with a higher number of female licence holders (5 million) compared to
males (2 million).
Licence holders in the 40-60 age group alone account for circa 40% of fatalities, strongly suggesting that this group should be retested and rechecked during this age range.Source?
On 03/08/2025 10:30, Spike wrote:
Licence holders in the 40-60 age group alone account for circa 40% of
fatalities, strongly suggesting that this group should be retested and
rechecked during this age range.
Source?
I would have said under 30s account for the majority of accidents and fatalities
70…136
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 03/08/2025 10:30, Spike wrote:
Licence holders in the 40-60 age group alone account for circa 40% of
fatalities, strongly suggesting that this group should be retested and
rechecked during this age range.
Source?
I would have said under 30s account for the majority of accidents and
fatalities
Unfortunately I didn’t keep the url, but I did write down the figures on the back of an envelope (literally). These were:
Age range…deaths
17-25…79
25-40…216
40-60…400
60-70…216
70…136
These figures may be for GB rather than UK, as the deaths total 1047.
On 2 Aug 2025 at 18:29:02 BST, Peter Able wrote:
Mmmm. Google AI is returning: 'Usually, 45s contain one song per side, which is why they are commonly referred to as singles'.
Maybe your Goggle AI's broken ;-)
On 02/08/2025 21:45, mm0fmf wrote:
On 02/08/2025 18:29, Peter Able wrote:
The weird aspect is that AI is so self-confident.Some of us remember when singles had three sides.
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side only >>>
Four, if you count the hole in the middle. :-)
On 02/08/2025 22:18, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 02/08/2025 21:45, mm0fmf wrote:Three was where there were 2 separate grooves cut on one side intertwined. >Depending on where you lowered the stylus on the lead in area you got
On 02/08/2025 18:29, Peter Able wrote:
The weird aspect is that AI is so self-confident.Some of us remember when singles had three sides.
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side only >>>>
Four, if you count the hole in the middle. :-)
track 1 or track 2. With the same options for the C side ;-)
On 02/08/2025 22:18, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 02/08/2025 21:45, mm0fmf wrote:Three was where there were 2 separate grooves cut on one side
On 02/08/2025 18:29, Peter Able wrote:
The weird aspect is that AI is so self-confident.Some of us remember when singles had three sides.
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side
only
Four, if you count the hole in the middle. :-)
intertwined. Depending on where you lowered the stylus on the lead in
area you got track 1 or track 2. With the same options for the C side ;-)
On 03/08/2025 13:04, Spike wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 03/08/2025 10:30, Spike wrote:
Licence holders in the 40-60 age group alone account for circa 40% of
fatalities, strongly suggesting that this group should be retested and >>>> rechecked during this age range.
Source?
I would have said under 30s account for the majority of accidents and
fatalities
Unfortunately I didn’t keep the url, but I did write down the figures on >> the back of an envelope (literally). These were:
Age range…deaths
17-25…79
25-40…216
40-60…400
60-70…216
70…136
These figures may be for GB rather than UK, as the deaths total 1047.
Are these the ages of the drivers, or of those who died?
On 03/08/2025 in message <106nme4$1k4jg$1@dont-email.me> mm0fmf wrote:
On 02/08/2025 22:18, Jeff Layman wrote:
On 02/08/2025 21:45, mm0fmf wrote:Three was where there were 2 separate grooves cut on one side
On 02/08/2025 18:29, Peter Able wrote:
The weird aspect is that AI is so self-confident.Some of us remember when singles had three sides.
I asked Google AI about 45rpm records. Amongst all the truth was:
45rpm records are called "singles" as they are recorded on one side
only
Four, if you count the hole in the middle. :-)
intertwined. Depending on where you lowered the stylus on the lead in
area you got track 1 or track 2. With the same options for the C side ;-)
Is that how the "random" horse racing records worked?
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 03/08/2025 13:04, Spike wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 03/08/2025 10:30, Spike wrote:
Licence holders in the 40-60 age group alone account for circa 40%
of fatalities, strongly suggesting that this group should be
retested and rechecked during this age range.
Source?
I would have said under 30s account for the majority of accidents and
fatalities
Unfortunately I didn’t keep the url, but I did write down the figures
on the back of an envelope (literally). These were:
Age range…deaths
17-25…79 25-40…216 40-60…400 60-70…216
70…136
These figures may be for GB rather than UK, as the deaths total 1047.
Are these the ages of the drivers, or of those who died?
That’s the age grouping of the drivers.
I’m trying to determine if older drivers really are the menace on the
road that news items keep saying they are, and so needing health checks
and retests possibly every licence renewal.
AFAICS the danger group is the 40-60s.
On 3 Aug 2025 14:14:51 GMT, Spike <aero.spike@mail.com> wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 03/08/2025 13:04, Spike wrote:
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 03/08/2025 10:30, Spike wrote:
Licence holders in the 40-60 age group alone account for circa 40% >>>>>> of fatalities, strongly suggesting that this group should be
retested and rechecked during this age range.
Source?
I would have said under 30s account for the majority of accidents and >>>>> fatalities
Unfortunately I didn’t keep the url, but I did write down the figures >>>> on the back of an envelope (literally). These were:
Age range…deaths
17-25…79 25-40…216 40-60…400 60-70…216
70…136
These figures may be for GB rather than UK, as the deaths total 1047.
Are these the ages of the drivers, or of those who died?
That’s the age grouping of the drivers.
I’m trying to determine if older drivers really are the menace on the
road that news items keep saying they are, and so needing health checks
and retests possibly every licence renewal.
AFAICS the danger group is the 40-60s.
Ah!, but the question not yet answered by those numbers is:
Are they just the totals, if so the we also need to know how many drivers
in each age bracket there are so we can work out the real likelihood, i.e deaths/1000 or similar.
The totals tell you little, unless you know what the population size is.
Avpx
(who's epidemiology is a bit rusty)
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