On 04/12/2024 10:26, Jethro_uk wrote:
Are there any implications in a household that - for whatever reason - provides unsecured access to their wifi with regards to safeguarding.
Just reading of a parent who is upset their neighbour won't change their wifi password which the parents son was given when he visited after
school. Now said child is still using it (circumventing parents limits)
and neighbour won't change password (and is aware of the situation).
This set me wondering if in a wider context, someone could be considered
as posing a safeguarding risk because they don't secure their wifi (which
I acknowledge is slightly different situation).
I have no idea about safeguarding, as that's a whole other can of worms,
but there is ECJ [^1] case law on the subject of the liability of the
owner of a Wi-Fi network that is misused by others, namely, Tobias
McFadden v Sony Music Entertainment Germany GmBH Case C-484/14. [^2]
The parent in question would need to create some copyright material and
have it uploaded via the neighbour's network whereupon they could apply
for an injunction requiring the neighbour to change the Wi-Fi password.
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 12:43:21 +0000, TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 04/12/2024 10:26, Jethro_uk wrote:
Are there any implications in a household that - for whatever reason -The neighbour could block the 'errant' mac address in their router.I can >understand why they are reluctant to change their router password. For a >lot of people,( myself included) it would involve updating endless
provides unsecured access to their wifi with regards to safeguarding.
Just reading of a parent who is upset their neighbour won't change their >> wifi password which the parents son was given when he visited after
school. Now said child is still using it (circumventing parents limits)
and neighbour won't change password (and is aware of the situation).
This set me wondering if in a wider context, someone could be considered >> as posing a safeguarding risk because they don't secure their wifi (which >> I acknowledge is slightly different situation).
devices that need access... not to mention visitors :(
Using a neighbour's WiFi does not involve the home router - that is
precisely the workaround that the son is using!
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 12:43:21 +0000, TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 04/12/2024 10:26, Jethro_uk wrote:
Are there any implications in a household that - for whatever reason -The neighbour could block the 'errant' mac address in their router.I can
provides unsecured access to their wifi with regards to safeguarding.
Just reading of a parent who is upset their neighbour won't change their >>> wifi password which the parents son was given when he visited after
school. Now said child is still using it (circumventing parents limits)
and neighbour won't change password (and is aware of the situation).
This set me wondering if in a wider context, someone could be considered >>> as posing a safeguarding risk because they don't secure their wifi (which >>> I acknowledge is slightly different situation).
understand why they are reluctant to change their router password. For a
lot of people,( myself included) it would involve updating endless
devices that need access... not to mention visitors :(
Using a neighbour's WiFi does not involve the home router - that is
precisely the workaround that the son is using!
Are there any implications in a household that - for whatever reason - provides unsecured access to their wifi with regards to safeguarding.
Just reading of a parent who is upset their neighbour won't change their
wifi password which the parents son was given when he visited after
school. Now said child is still using it (circumventing parents limits)
and neighbour won't change password (and is aware of the situation).
This set me wondering if in a wider context, someone could be considered
as posing a safeguarding risk because they don't secure their wifi (which
I acknowledge is slightly different situation).
The neighbour could block the 'errant' mac address in their router.I can >understand why they are reluctant to change their router password. For a
lot of people,( myself included) it would involve updating endless
devices that need access... not to mention visitors :(
On 04/12/2024 10:26, Jethro_uk wrote:
Are there any implications in a household that - for whatever reason -
provides unsecured access to their wifi with regards to safeguarding.
Just reading of a parent who is upset their neighbour won't change their
wifi password which the parents son was given when he visited after
school. Now said child is still using it (circumventing parents limits)
and neighbour won't change password (and is aware of the situation).
This set me wondering if in a wider context, someone could be considered
as posing a safeguarding risk because they don't secure their wifi (which
I acknowledge is slightly different situation).
It's very likely that the child will not remember the actual password
(unless it is something like 12345), so just going on his computer and >getting it to forget the offending router will then require the password
to be entered manually which he will have forgotten.
Are there any implications in a household that - for whatever reason - >provides unsecured access to their wifi with regards to safeguarding.
Just reading of a parent who is upset their neighbour won't change their
wifi password which the parents son was given when he visited after
school. Now said child is still using it (circumventing parents limits)
and neighbour won't change password (and is aware of the situation).
In my experience, telling a teenager not to do a certain thing is the
surest way of ensuring that they do it (or vice-versa). :-)
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