• Single Couple Few Several Many All

    From Nick Odell@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 8 08:57:34 2025
    Are there accepted legal definitions for words which describe ranges
    of numbers and do those definitions vary with context? I think I am
    pretty confident about "Single" "Couple" and "All" but when does a
    "few" become "several" or "several" become "many"?

    I want to describe events or circumstances which occur more than once
    but not necessarily in exactly the same way and where writing a
    precise table or a list might not be practical or possible.

    For example:
    Each time I have visited A&E I have had to wait a few/several/many
    hours to be seen.
    There were a few/several/many weeks last year when I did no shopping
    at all.
    About two hundred people attended each meeting but a few/several/many
    became bored and left before the main speaker took the stage.

    And should "some" be in that list of numerical descriptors or is it
    just too vague?

    Thanks,

    Nick

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  • From Roland Perry@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 8 10:32:13 2025
    In message <l2esnj9lva9bf78t49luiuuev4o9vaqbpv@4ax.com>, at 08:57:34 on
    Wed, 8 Jan 2025, Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> remarked:
    Are there accepted legal definitions for words which describe ranges
    of numbers and do those definitions vary with context? I think I am
    pretty confident about "Single" "Couple" and "All" but when does a
    "few" become "several" or "several" become "many"?

    I want to describe events or circumstances which occur more than once
    but not necessarily in exactly the same way and where writing a
    precise table or a list might not be practical or possible.

    For example:
    Each time I have visited A&E I have had to wait a few/several/many
    hours to be seen.

    It's reported in the news today that some(sic) are now waiting 50hrs.

    There were a few/several/many weeks last year when I did no shopping
    at all.

    About two hundred people attended each meeting but a few/several/many
    became bored and left before the main speaker took the stage.

    And should "some" be in that list of numerical descriptors or is it
    just too vague?

    It may depend whether you are trying to play-up, or play-down the
    outliers. And the context is everything.
    --
    Roland Perry

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  • From Nick Odell@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 8 20:32:18 2025
    On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 10:32:13 +0000, Roland Perry <roland@perry.uk>
    wrote:

    In message <l2esnj9lva9bf78t49luiuuev4o9vaqbpv@4ax.com>, at 08:57:34 on
    Wed, 8 Jan 2025, Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> remarked:
    Are there accepted legal definitions for words which describe ranges
    of numbers and do those definitions vary with context? I think I am
    pretty confident about "Single" "Couple" and "All" but when does a
    "few" become "several" or "several" become "many"?

    I want to describe events or circumstances which occur more than once
    but not necessarily in exactly the same way and where writing a
    precise table or a list might not be practical or possible.

    For example:
    Each time I have visited A&E I have had to wait a few/several/many
    hours to be seen.

    It's reported in the news today that some(sic) are now waiting 50hrs.

    There were a few/several/many weeks last year when I did no shopping
    at all.

    About two hundred people attended each meeting but a few/several/many >>became bored and left before the main speaker took the stage.

    And should "some" be in that list of numerical descriptors or is it
    just too vague?

    It may depend whether you are trying to play-up, or play-down the
    outliers.

    Ah, but unlike the hypothetical accountant who asks their client,
    "what would you like it to add up to?" I was wondering if there is any recognised precision in general groupings of numbers such that if I
    were to use a term about a series of events the description of an
    individual event could not be pulled out and challenged as misleading.


    And the context is everything.

    Really? Single is uncontroversial and precise. Couple and All are too.
    Is the precision completely lost in the middle part of the sequence or
    are there ranges of numbers which are recognised as accurately
    described by one but not another of those terms?

    Nick

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  • From Roland Perry@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 9 07:25:50 2025
    In message <3jmtnjhic4de71ci9mjir1361eelgkcvbh@4ax.com>, at 20:32:18 on
    Wed, 8 Jan 2025, Nick Odell <nickodell49@yahoo.ca> remarked:
    About two hundred people attended each meeting but a few/several/many >>>became bored and left before the main speaker took the stage.

    And should "some" be in that list of numerical descriptors or is it
    just too vague?

    It may depend whether you are trying to play-up, or play-down the
    outliers.

    Ah, but unlike the hypothetical accountant who asks their client,
    "what would you like it to add up to?" I was wondering if there is any >recognised precision in general groupings of numbers such that if I
    were to use a term about a series of events the description of an
    individual event could not be pulled out and challenged as misleading.

    And what would the adverse consequences of such a challenge be?

    And the context is everything.

    Really? Single is uncontroversial and precise. Couple and All are too.

    I disagree. In many contexts "a couple of" can mean anything from 2-5.
    In other words, more than one, but not many(sic). I use it that way
    often when I describe something has happening "a couple of weeks ago". I
    don't usually mean precisely two, rather it was more than one, but could
    have been three or four.

    Is the precision completely lost in the middle part of the sequence or
    are there ranges of numbers which are recognised as accurately
    described by one but not another of those terms?

    I'm not sure I've ever seen a definitive vocabulary, and of course
    there's other words like "half" which depending on context could also be "roughly 40-60%"
    --
    Roland Perry

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