It appears that "inheriting"** a car in these circumstances counts as
"buying it", and my late wife was regarded as "selling" it. Even though
you can't send in the old V5, because the "seller" has to sign it.
On 2025-01-08 08:50, Roland Perry wrote:
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It appears that "inheriting"** a car in these circumstances counts as
"buying it", and my late wife was regarded as "selling" it. Even though
you can't send in the old V5, because the "seller" has to sign it.
I did this to take over my wife's car recently, though just before she
died rather than afterwards.
There was no space on the V5 for a seller to sign, everything was done
on line.
Go on to DVLA as seller, fill in all the details including the magic >reference number to report sale. The go on again as buyer using the
magic number on the little slip the seller gives to the buyer, register
your details and pay the tax. It tells you to destroy the old V5. A few
days later buyer receives a new V5 and seller gets a confirmation slip
and a cheque for refund of unused tax.
JNugent <JNugent73@mail.com> remarked:
You've reminded me... a near neighbour (not next door) had his van
clamped outside the house a few weeks ago. The "boot" was branded
"DVLA". That must have been due to a touring ANPR vehicle.
My car was clamped like that (in a pub car park, which I think is a
bit cheeky of the DVLA) last year due to a mix-up in the transfer of
the keepership from my late wife to myself. The tax had been paid,
but somehow wires got crossed at Swansea.
I think a pub car-park (or supermarket, railway station, etc, car-park)
is a public place within the meaning of the Road Traffic Acts.
A bit awkward it limited-stay (see below).
I eventually got an almost apology from Swansea, but nowhere with a
refund of the unclamping fee (or indeed my time and expenses sorting
the mess out).
Apart from anything else, the boot was full of frozen food I'd just
bought and was taking home. I only popped into the pub for five
minutes mainly to have a pee. It was quite tricky getting home to
retrieve my second car to unload the food, as there's no public
transport and it was way too far to walk.
Hope it all went OK. Did you manage to get a lift?
I had a half hour walk, a ten minute train ride and another short walk. Retrieved my second car and sorted out the groceries, while also trying
to get through to the clampers. All the information to confirm my
suspicion it was a mix-up was at home, and I didn't just want to pay up
then try to claim it back.
But perhaps unsurprisingly they weren't the slightest bit interested in sorting out the mix-up there and then "computer says no", so I had to
pay anyway. The whole exercise took about five hours, which didn't
include me waiting for the un-clamper, because they couldn't say when
they'd arrive. So next day I had to do the short_walk-train-long_walk in reverse to retrieve the car.
In theory I had overstayed the pub car park too, but they didn't ticket
me. That would have escalated the whole thing onto a completely
different level.
ps None of this would have happened if we still had paper tax discs, not
entries in a database which people can fiddle with behind your back.
As far as I can tell the sequence of events was this:
The car was registered in my wife's name.
She died, and I informed DVLA ostensibly for her driving licence.
DVLA VED department however, muscled in, and silently cancelled the tax,
didn't inform me, didn't issue new V5.
Car is theoretically untaxed, despite DD in place to pay the tax.
No mention of this edge case in any documentation.
Coincidentally, from a few days after my wife died for about two months
(thanks, JLR) the vehicle was off the road awaiting a simple repair.
Car gets clamped a couple of days after the repair was finally done.
I contact DVLA, whose bereavement team finally get around to issuing a
new V5 in my name.
It appears that "inheriting"** a car in these circumstances counts as
"buying it", and my late wife was regarded as "selling" it. Even though
you can't send in the old V5, because the "seller" has to sign it.
An edge case none of the forms mention.
The insurance company rolled everything over efficiently.
** In the sense of Keepership, it was jointly owned financially.
The whole exercise took about five hours, which didn't
include me waiting for the un-clamper, because they couldn't say when
they'd arrive. So next day I had to do the short_walk-train-long_walk in
reverse to retrieve the car.
In theory I had overstayed the pub car park too, but they didn't
ticket me. That would have escalated the whole thing onto a
completely different level.
I'm assuming the management knew you were a customer and not a chancer.
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