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  • Re: Deconstruct vs Demolish

    From SH@21:1/5 to Martin Harran on Thu Feb 6 19:44:07 2025
    On 06/02/2025 18:37, Martin Harran wrote:
    What's the difference?



    deconstruct means dismantling tidily so that all the materials can
    either be reused elsewhere for a 2nd life or sent to recycling. You can
    often sell much of these materials.

    Demolish is simply reducing it into a big pile and putting it all into landfill....

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 6 19:45:34 2025
    On 06/02/2025 19:44, SH wrote:
    On 06/02/2025 18:37, Martin Harran wrote:
    What's the difference?



    deconstruct means dismantling tidily so that all the materials can
    either be reused elsewhere for a 2nd life or sent to recycling. You can
    often sell much of these materials.

    Demolish is simply reducing it into a big pile and putting it all into landfill....


    P.S.

    https://www.morecambemetals.co.uk/deconstruction-vs-demolition-whats-the-difference/

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  • From billy bookcase@21:1/5 to Martin Harran on Thu Feb 6 20:09:15 2025
    "Martin Harran" <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote in message news:790aqjtanopscjvh5nu802lf4d6gi79tc3@4ax.com...

    What's the difference?

    The former often means to break something down into its
    component parts, so as to better understand it. In physical
    objects its the equivalent of dismantle

    The latter means to break something up or down, without
    necessarily taking any interest in its component parts
    (except perhaps for salvage ) simply because it is
    no longer needed.


    bb

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 6 20:42:30 2025
    SH wrote:

    Martin Harran wrote:
    What's the difference?

    deconstruct means dismantling tidily so that all the materials can
    either be reused elsewhere for a 2nd life or sent to recycling. You can
    often sell much of these materials.

    Slight smoke damage?

    Demolish is simply reducing it into a big pile and putting it all into landfill....

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  • From The Todal@21:1/5 to Martin Harran on Fri Feb 7 10:27:45 2025
    On 06/02/2025 22:57, Martin Harran wrote:
    On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 19:44:07 +0000, SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:

    On 06/02/2025 18:37, Martin Harran wrote:
    What's the difference?



    deconstruct means dismantling tidily so that all the materials can
    either be reused elsewhere for a 2nd life or sent to recycling. You can
    often sell much of these materials.

    So essentially Grenfell becomes Greenfell. I daresay that will be a
    big comfort to the relatives of the victims.

    The victims and the relatives of the victims should not have the power
    to veto the demolition of Grenfell, or to insist that the ghastly
    structure remains in situ until all public inquiries and all
    prosecutions have been finished.






    Demolish is simply reducing it into a big pile and putting it all into
    landfill....


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  • From Theo@21:1/5 to i.love@spam.com on Fri Feb 7 13:18:41 2025
    SH <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
    On 06/02/2025 18:37, Martin Harran wrote:
    What's the difference?



    deconstruct means dismantling tidily so that all the materials can
    either be reused elsewhere for a 2nd life or sent to recycling. You can
    often sell much of these materials.

    Demolish is simply reducing it into a big pile and putting it all into landfill....

    Often deconstruction is needed because the act of demolition would be
    hazardous in some way. You can demolish a building by blowing it up, which
    is fine if you can make a 1km exclusion zone to catch the rubble and avoid harming any people. If it's in a built up area you can't practically make
    such an exclusion zone and the demolition would likely cause damage to other buildings, so you have to take it down more carefully.

    A good example of this recently is the Ayr Station Hotel. The hotel had a
    fire making it structurally unsafe. However the hotel was part of the
    railway station and very close to the tracks, so a demolition would likely
    have caused major damage to the station and potentially put the railway line out of action for a long time. To avoid that, the building had to be taken down piece by piece, taking care not to drop anything on the tracks below.

    Theo

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  • From Pamela@21:1/5 to Martin Harran on Fri Feb 7 11:33:23 2025
    On 18:37 6 Feb 2025, Martin Harran said:

    What's the difference?


    If one of those is a term used in a court case, perhaps you could cite it
    to give context.

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 7 11:10:35 2025
    On 06/02/2025 19:44, SH wrote:
    On 06/02/2025 18:37, Martin Harran wrote:
    What's the difference?

    deconstruct means dismantling tidily so that all the materials can
    either be reused elsewhere for a 2nd life or sent to recycling. You can
    often sell much of these materials.

    Although in this instance deconstruct means taking it apart very very
    carefully piece by piece from top to bottom because the structural
    integrity is so badly compromised on one side that any attempt at
    controlled explosive demolition could cause a lot of collateral damage.

    The upper floors are held up by a lot of props.

    Demolish is simply reducing it into a big pile and putting it all into landfill....
    I doubt if there is anything much left to salvage apart from copper
    pipe and wiring. Smoke damage and weather will have taken their toll.

    --
    Martin Brown

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