I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to open the >pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly (may
have been a contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my car while it >was filling.
I remember asking the cashier why it is taking so long to fill; they said >they had just reset the pumps. This was a late hour, and no attendants
were there.
I estimate only about 110-120 quid worth of fuel was needed.
After the pump stopped at 200 quid (the pre-paid amount), I got out of my >car. To my surprise, there was fuel all over the ground - the pump's >automatic sensor had not cut off the flow even after my tank became full.
The station's manager claimed I did not put the pump's head into the hole >correctly, and that 1000s of people filled at the pump without any
problem. I claim that their pump was defective, and in fact was dangerous
to myself and other customers should the spilt fuel catch fire.
Who is right? Who is liable here?
I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to open
the pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly (may
have been a contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my car while
it was filling.
J Newman wrote:
I got out of my car. To my surprise, there was fuel all over the
ground - the pump's automatic sensor had not cut off the flow even
after my tank became full.
Who is liable here?
I would think at a self service petrol station you are responsible for supervising the filling but you chose to sit in the car.
I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to open
the pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly (may
have been a contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my car while
it was filling.
I remember asking the cashier why it is taking so long to fill; they
said they had just reset the pumps. This was a late hour, and no
attendants were there.
I estimate only about 110-120 quid worth of fuel was needed.
After the pump stopped at 200 quid (the pre-paid amount), I got out of
my car. To my surprise, there was fuel all over the ground - the pump's automatic sensor had not cut off the flow even after my tank became full.
The station's manager claimed I did not put the pump's head into the
hole correctly, and that 1000s of people filled at the pump without any problem. I claim that their pump was defective, and in fact was
dangerous to myself and other customers should the spilt fuel catch fire.
Who is right? Who is liable here?
AFAIK, petrol pumps in the UK don't have the latching lever that allows
you to take your hand off without stopping? If you jam the pump on e.g. >using a Biro cap in the hole, I suggest you're to blame ...
After the pump stopped at 200 quid (the pre-paid amount), I got out of
my car. To my surprise, there was fuel all over the ground - the pump's >automatic sensor had not cut off the flow even after my tank became full.
The station's manager claimed I did not put the pump's head into the
hole correctly, and that 1000s of people filled at the pump without any >problem. I claim that their pump was defective, and in fact was
dangerous to myself and other customers should the spilt fuel catch fire.
Who is right? Who is liable here?
I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to open
the pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly (may
have been a contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my car while
it was filling.
I remember asking the cashier why it is taking so long to fill; they
said they had just reset the pumps. This was a late hour, and no
attendants were there.
I estimate only about 110-120 quid worth of fuel was needed.
After the pump stopped at 200 quid (the pre-paid amount), I got out of
my car. To my surprise, there was fuel all over the ground - the pump's automatic sensor had not cut off the flow even after my tank became full.
The station's manager claimed I did not put the pump's head into the
hole correctly, and that 1000s of people filled at the pump without any problem. I claim that their pump was defective, and in fact was
dangerous to myself and other customers should the spilt fuel catch fire.
Who is right? Who is liable here?
I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to open
the pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly (may
have been a contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my car while
it was filling.
In the column labelled "anecdata", I can confirm that it is possible for
the "full sensor" on the pump head to fail as I had precisely this
happen to me when I was filling my car and got a not insignificant
amount of petrol on me which required hospitalisation and prevented me
from flying for a month.
In the column labelled "anecdata", I can confirm that it is possible for the "full
sensor" on the pump head to fail as I had precisely this happen to me when I was
filling my car and got a not insignificant amount of petrol on me which required
hospitalisation and prevented me from flying for a month.
I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to open the pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly (may have been a
contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my car while it was filling.
I remember asking the cashier why it is taking so long to fill; they said they had just
reset the pumps. This was a late hour, and no attendants were there.
I estimate only about 110-120 quid worth of fuel was needed.
After the pump stopped at 200 quid (the pre-paid amount), I got out of my car. To my
surprise, there was fuel all over the ground - the pump's automatic sensor had not cut
off the flow even after my tank became full.
The station's manager claimed I did not put the pump's head into the hole correctly,
and that 1000s of people filled at the pump without any problem. I claim that their
pump was defective, and in fact was dangerous to myself and other customers should the
spilt fuel catch fire.
Who is right? Who is liable here?
Andy Burns wrote:
AFAIK, petrol pumps in the UK don't have the latching lever that allows
you to take your hand off without stopping?
Pumps on the commercial vehicle side of the station often do
because they can take a long time to fill and holding the nozzle for
that long can be uncomfortable. But the rule there is always that
you put the pump on the latch and then stand there and watch it. You
never, ever, leave it unattended while the pump is dispensing fuel.
On 12/02/2025 10:35, billy bookcase wrote:
"Simon Parker" <simonparkerulm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:m139ngFqoilU23@mid.individual.net...
In the column labelled "anecdata", I can confirm that it is possible for the "full
sensor" on the pump head to fail as I had precisely this happen to me when I was
filling my car and got a not insignificant amount of petrol on me which required
hospitalisation and prevented me from flying for a month.
Wouldn't a thorough hosing-down have sufficed.?
How much do they estimate you ended up drinking, in the end ?
I didn't drink it. It enter through my pores.
And enough to lead to dizziness and severe confusion within a few hours. Apparently,
petrol and the additives in it, are not very good for humans.
On 2025-02-12, Simon Parker <simonparkerulm@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/02/2025 10:15, Jon Ribbens wrote:
On 2025-02-12, Simon Parker <simonparkerulm@gmail.com> wrote:
In the column labelled "anecdata", I can confirm that it is possible
for the "full sensor" on the pump head to fail as I had precisely
this happen to me when I was filling my car and got a not
insignificant amount of petrol on me which required hospitalisation
and prevented me from flying for a month.
How!? Why!?
I tend to fill the fuel tank rather than putting a specific amount in.
With the fuel nozzle correctly inserted into the neck of my tank, I
hold the handle until it clicks thereby filling my tank.
I mean how did it affect you in such a way, not how could the accident
have happened ;-)
...
I went home to get a shower as I didn't fancy burns from the petrol and
also placed all my clothing a bucket of water. Despite my best
efforts,
petrol entered my body through my skin causing respiratory problems
which required hospitalisation.
Ah, thank you. I didn't know petrol could do that, even in large
quantities. I think in the circumstances I would have immediately
undressed to my underwear and washed the petrol off at the petrol
station. But possibly I have watched too many action movies where
someone gets drenched in petrol then set alight.
On 12/02/2025 10:15, Jon Ribbens wrote:
On 2025-02-12, Simon Parker <simonparkerulm@gmail.com> wrote:
In the column labelled "anecdata", I can confirm that it is possible for >>> the "full sensor" on the pump head to fail as I had precisely this
happen to me when I was filling my car and got a not insignificant
amount of petrol on me which required hospitalisation and prevented me
from flying for a month.
How!? Why!?
I tend to fill the fuel tank rather than putting a specific amount in.
With the fuel nozzle correctly inserted into the neck of my tank, I hold
the handle until it clicks thereby filling my tank.
I went home to get a shower as I didn't fancy burns from the petrol and
also placed all my clothing a bucket of water. Despite my best efforts, petrol entered my body through my skin causing respiratory problems
which required hospitalisation.
I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to open
the pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly (may
have been a contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my car while
it was filling.
I remember asking the cashier why it is taking so long to fill; they
said they had just reset the pumps. This was a late hour, and no
attendants were there.
I estimate only about 110-120 quid worth of fuel was needed.
After the pump stopped at 200 quid (the pre-paid amount), I got out of
my car. To my surprise, there was fuel all over the ground - the pump's automatic sensor had not cut off the flow even after my tank became full.
The station's manager claimed I did not put the pump's head into the
hole correctly, and that 1000s of people filled at the pump without any problem. I claim that their pump was defective, and in fact was
dangerous to myself and other customers should the spilt fuel catch fire.
Who is right? Who is liable here?
On 12/02/2025 10:35, billy bookcase wrote:
"Simon Parker" <simonparkerulm@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:m139ngFqoilU23@mid.individual.net...
In the column labelled "anecdata", I can confirm that it is possible
for the "full
sensor" on the pump head to fail as I had precisely this happen to me
when I was
filling my car and got a not insignificant amount of petrol on me
which required
hospitalisation and prevented me from flying for a month.
Wouldn't a thorough hosing-down have sufficed.?
How much do they estimate you ended up drinking, in the end ?
I didn't drink it. It enter through my pores.
And enough to lead to dizziness and severe confusion within a few hours.
Apparently, petrol and the additives in it, are not very good for humans.
"Simon Parker" <simonparkerulm@gmail.com> wrote:
In the column labelled "anecdata", I can confirm that it is possible for the "full
sensor" on the pump head to fail as I had precisely this happen to me when I was
filling my car and got a not insignificant amount of petrol on me which required
hospitalisation and prevented me from flying for a month.
Wouldn't a thorough hosing-down have sufficed.?
How much do they estimate you ended up drinking, in the end ?
I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to open
the pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly (may
have been a contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my car while
it was filling.
I remember asking the cashier why it is taking so long to fill; they
said they had just reset the pumps. This was a late hour, and no
attendants were there.
I estimate only about 110-120 quid worth of fuel was needed.
After the pump stopped at 200 quid (the pre-paid amount), I got out of
my car. To my surprise, there was fuel all over the ground - the pump's automatic sensor had not cut off the flow even after my tank became full.
The station's manager claimed I did not put the pump's head into the
hole correctly, and that 1000s of people filled at the pump without any problem. I claim that their pump was defective, and in fact was
dangerous to myself and other customers should the spilt fuel catch fire.
Who is right? Who is liable here?
On 12/02/2025 05:56, J Newman wrote:
I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to open
the pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly
(may have been a contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my car
while it was filling.
I remember asking the cashier why it is taking so long to fill; they
said they had just reset the pumps. This was a late hour, and no
attendants were there.
I estimate only about 110-120 quid worth of fuel was needed.
After the pump stopped at 200 quid (the pre-paid amount), I got out of
my car. To my surprise, there was fuel all over the ground - the
pump's automatic sensor had not cut off the flow even after my tank
became full.
The station's manager claimed I did not put the pump's head into the
hole correctly, and that 1000s of people filled at the pump without
any problem. I claim that their pump was defective, and in fact was
dangerous to myself and other customers should the spilt fuel catch fire.
Who is right? Who is liable here?
This story doesn't seem plausible for reasons others have stated.
Furthermore you could be liable for the cost of a clean-up operation.
£80 of fuel is a lot of fuel to end up on the ground.
Personally I wouldn't want to voluntarily admit to the forecourt company
that £80 of fuel went on the ground and possibly ended up in a rainwater tank.
On 12/02/2025 16:19, Fredxx wrote:
On 12/02/2025 05:56, J Newman wrote:
I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to
open the pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly
(may have been a contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my
car while it was filling.
I remember asking the cashier why it is taking so long to fill; they
said they had just reset the pumps. This was a late hour, and no
attendants were there.
I estimate only about 110-120 quid worth of fuel was needed.
After the pump stopped at 200 quid (the pre-paid amount), I got out
of my car. To my surprise, there was fuel all over the ground - the
pump's automatic sensor had not cut off the flow even after my tank
became full.
The station's manager claimed I did not put the pump's head into the
hole correctly, and that 1000s of people filled at the pump without
any problem. I claim that their pump was defective, and in fact was
dangerous to myself and other customers should the spilt fuel catch
fire.
Who is right? Who is liable here?
This story doesn't seem plausible for reasons others have stated.
Furthermore you could be liable for the cost of a clean-up operation.
£80 of fuel is a lot of fuel to end up on the ground.
Personally I wouldn't want to voluntarily admit to the forecourt
company that £80 of fuel went on the ground and possibly ended up in a
rainwater tank.
I'm struggling to think of a non-commercial vehicle that can actually
hold £200's worth of fuel so that seems a rather high pre-pay amount to
ask for before the pump was authorised for use?
So lets say £1.40 per litre so thats a fuel tank capable of holding
approx 143 litres...
My own Golf estate can only hold 50 litres and my Caravelle van's tank
can hold 80 litres.......
Most pumps are set at £99 limit. Tesco is now £120. It all make the OP's story all the less plausible.
On 12/02/2025 16:19, Fredxx wrote:
On 12/02/2025 05:56, J Newman wrote:
I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to open
the pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly
(may have been a contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my car
while it was filling.
I remember asking the cashier why it is taking so long to fill; they
said they had just reset the pumps. This was a late hour, and no
attendants were there.
I estimate only about 110-120 quid worth of fuel was needed.
After the pump stopped at 200 quid (the pre-paid amount), I got out of
my car. To my surprise, there was fuel all over the ground - the
pump's automatic sensor had not cut off the flow even after my tank
became full.
The station's manager claimed I did not put the pump's head into the
hole correctly, and that 1000s of people filled at the pump without
any problem. I claim that their pump was defective, and in fact was
dangerous to myself and other customers should the spilt fuel catch fire. >>>
Who is right? Who is liable here?
This story doesn't seem plausible for reasons others have stated.
Furthermore you could be liable for the cost of a clean-up operation.
£80 of fuel is a lot of fuel to end up on the ground.
Personally I wouldn't want to voluntarily admit to the forecourt company
that £80 of fuel went on the ground and possibly ended up in a rainwater
tank.
I'm struggling to think of a non-commercial vehicle that can actually
hold £200's worth of fuel so that seems a rather high pre-pay amount to
ask for before the pump was authorised for use?
So lets say £1.40 per litre so thats a fuel tank capable of holding
approx 143 litres...
My own Golf estate can only hold 50 litres and my Caravelle van's tank
can hold 80 litres.......
S.
On 12 Feb 2025 at 21:13:51 GMT, "SH" <i.love@spam.com> wrote:
On 12/02/2025 16:19, Fredxx wrote:
On 12/02/2025 05:56, J Newman wrote:
I was filling petrol at a petrol station.
I paid about 200 quid up front to the petrol station's cashier to
open the pump.
For some reason the pump seemed to be pumping really, really slowly
(may have been a contributory factor to the problem?). I sat in my
car while it was filling.
I remember asking the cashier why it is taking so long to fill; they
said they had just reset the pumps. This was a late hour, and no
attendants were there.
I estimate only about 110-120 quid worth of fuel was needed.
After the pump stopped at 200 quid (the pre-paid amount), I got out
of my car. To my surprise, there was fuel all over the ground - the
pump's automatic sensor had not cut off the flow even after my tank
became full.
The station's manager claimed I did not put the pump's head into the
hole correctly, and that 1000s of people filled at the pump without
any problem. I claim that their pump was defective, and in fact was
dangerous to myself and other customers should the spilt fuel catch
fire.
Who is right? Who is liable here?
This story doesn't seem plausible for reasons others have stated.
Furthermore you could be liable for the cost of a clean-up operation.
£80 of fuel is a lot of fuel to end up on the ground.
Personally I wouldn't want to voluntarily admit to the forecourt
company that £80 of fuel went on the ground and possibly ended up in a
rainwater tank.
I'm struggling to think of a non-commercial vehicle that can actually
hold £200's worth of fuel so that seems a rather high pre-pay amount to
ask for before the pump was authorised for use?
So lets say £1.40 per litre so thats a fuel tank capable of holding
approx 143 litres...
My own Golf estate can only hold 50 litres and my Caravelle van's tank
can hold 80 litres.......
S.
American cars, with 6 litre engines often barely two digit fuel
consumption may well need bigger tanks. The OP reads as though it has
been copied from an American source in many ways, not just the fuel tank capacity.
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