• How does the law decide if a person is male or female.

    From Roger Hayter@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 13 21:42:46 2025
    This question is inspired by the ongoing ET case I mentioned elsewhere,
    ongoing in Dundee ET, (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024.


    The doctor who is second respondent in that case did not dispute that they
    were born male and have the anatomical and physiological body of a normal
    human male. But they asserted that they were a biological female. They were perhaps referring to their (female?) brain being paramount but this was not explicit.


    How does the law decide whether a person is male or female when this is disputed? Is the person's current birth certificate (as provided at birth or under the GRA) conclusive? Does the law recognise the distinction between biological sex and legal gender, or is their no such distinction under the
    law?

    The ET seems to be planning to deal with contradiction between the claimant's statement that the second respondent is a a man, and the second respondent's own statement under oath that he is a woman by asking for expert evidence.

    Is the sex of a person a matter of fact to be decided by the court on whatever evidence the parties choose to present? Or is there a legally correct way ascertaining it?



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    Roger Hayter

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  • From Jon Ribbens@21:1/5 to Roger Hayter on Fri Feb 14 10:39:49 2025
    On 2025-02-13, Roger Hayter <roger@hayter.org> wrote:
    This question is inspired by the ongoing ET case I mentioned elsewhere, ongoing in Dundee ET, (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024.

    The doctor who is second respondent in that case did not dispute that they were born male and have the anatomical and physiological body of a normal human male. But they asserted that they were a biological female. They were perhaps referring to their (female?) brain being paramount but this was not explicit.

    How does the law decide whether a person is male or female when this is disputed? Is the person's current birth certificate (as provided at
    birth or under the GRA) conclusive? Does the law recognise the
    distinction between biological sex and legal gender, or is their no
    such distinction under the law?

    The ET seems to be planning to deal with contradiction between the
    claimant's statement that the second respondent is a a man, and the
    second respondent's own statement under oath that he is a woman by
    asking for expert evidence.

    Is the sex of a person a matter of fact to be decided by the court on whatever evidence the parties choose to present? Or is there a legally correct way ascertaining it?

    I imagine it will depend, like many things in law, on the context.
    For example, is a person "a child"? The answer will depend on why
    the question is being asked. There is no one single "true" answer.

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