A hypothetical problem. Probably:-}

Someone writes a will naming a distant relative as executor. However,
said relative knows nothing of this, and certainly hasn't seen the will.

How is the connection made, so to speak, so that they know to act after
the death?


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Mike Scott
Harlow, England

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On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 09:22:31 +0100, Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> wrote:

A hypothetical problem. Probably:-}

Someone writes a will naming a distant relative as executor. However,
said relative knows nothing of this, and certainly hasn't seen the will.

How is the connection made, so to speak, so that they know to act after
the death?

When someone searching deceased's property for contact details finds
the will and tells them.

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Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote in news:7332vjtbp7qk9cav49kk79clqm623lsd9e@4ax.com:

On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 09:22:31 +0100, Mike Scott <usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> wrote:

A hypothetical problem. Probably:-}

Someone writes a will naming a distant relative as executor. However,
said relative knows nothing of this, and certainly hasn't seen the will.

How is the connection made, so to speak, so that they know to act after
the death?

When someone searching deceased's property for contact details finds
the will and tells them.

To add, a nomintated executor is not required to take up the role, they can renounce it which unfortunately requires a legal document, a Deed of Renunciation, to be completed and submitted to the Probate Office.

I say unfortunately as if I was nominated without my consent I'd prefer to simply say FRO!

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On 05/04/2025 15:15, Peter Walker wrote:

Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> wrote in news:7332vjtbp7qk9cav49kk79clqm623lsd9e@4ax.com:

On Sat, 5 Apr 2025 09:22:31 +0100, Mike Scott
<usenet.16@scottsonline.org.uk.invalid> wrote:

A hypothetical problem. Probably:-}

Someone writes a will naming a distant relative as executor. However,
said relative knows nothing of this, and certainly hasn't seen the will. >>>
How is the connection made, so to speak, so that they know to act after
the death?

When someone searching deceased's property for contact details finds
the will and tells them.

To add, a nomintated executor is not required to take up the role, they can renounce it which unfortunately requires a legal document, a Deed of Renunciation, to be completed and submitted to the Probate Office.

I say unfortunately as if I was nominated without my consent I'd prefer to simply say FRO!

There's a PA15 form (a draft deed, as you say):

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6731eb962cccb48648badaee/PA15_1124.pdf

So, it's just a question of filling in the blanks, which would take only
a few minutes.

But, I agree with you that it's preposterous to impose this on someone
without asking them first.

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GB <NOTsomeone@microsoft.invalid> wrote in
news:vsrrp1$2t0ui$1@dont-email.me:

On 05/04/2025 15:15, Peter Walker wrote:

To add, a nomintated executor is not required to take up the role,
they can renounce it which unfortunately requires a legal document, a
Deed of Renunciation, to be completed and submitted to the Probate
Office.

I say unfortunately as if I was nominated without my consent I'd
prefer to simply say FRO!

There's a PA15 form (a draft deed, as you say):

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6731eb962cccb48648badaee /PA15_1124.pdf

So, it's just a question of filling in the blanks, which would take
only a few minutes.

I only spotted that later and was relieved that it was not something that
had to be generated or processed by a solicitor.

I note however (not unsurprisingly) that you do need to involve yourself
to some extent with the estate documentation in order to get the date of
death, date of will and date of any codicils.

This may require some effort when a potentially distant rellie simply
contacts the nominated exec and unloads, "Auntie Flo<who?> has just died
and you need to sort it all out".

Also poorly written eg. Intermeddling", "Have never been involved in the financial affairs of the deceased since the date of death". "never &
since" (qualified by an event's timing) rather than "not & since".
Standards slipping . . .

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On 06/04/2025 11:04, Peter Walker wrote:

I note however (not unsurprisingly) that you do need to involve yourself
to some extent with the estate documentation in order to get the date of death, date of will and date of any codicils.

This may require some effort when a potentially distant rellie simply contacts the nominated exec and unloads, "Auntie Flo<who?> has just died
and you need to sort it all out".

Also:
"Give the completed form to the executor who’s applying for probate."

(https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/form-pa15-give-up-probate-executor-rights)

Weird, since there's no particular reason why the nominated, unaware
executor should have access to any of the required information.



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Mike Scott
Harlow, England

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