I've just renewed my Residential Parking Permit for the
year, which would have run out on the 25th

This got me thinking. If instead I somehow ended up in
hospital and there was nobody else to pay, would I have
been charged the statutory amount ( for the sake of argument
£90) every single day ?

So that if I was kept in hospital for 10 months, I would come
out facing a bill for £27,000.

Or is there a maximum amount that applies for parking a car in
the one place and never moving it, in situations where
towing away etc. doesn't apply ?


bb

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On 2025-04-23, billy bookcase <billy@anon.com> wrote:

I've just renewed my Residential Parking Permit for the
year, which would have run out on the 25th

This got me thinking. If instead I somehow ended up in
hospital and there was nobody else to pay, would I have
been charged the statutory amount ( for the sake of argument
£90) every single day ?

So that if I was kept in hospital for 10 months, I would come
out facing a bill for £27,000.

Or is there a maximum amount that applies for parking a car in
the one place and never moving it, in situations where
towing away etc. doesn't apply ?

That precise question was discussed in May 2012 in the thread
"GBH vs threatening a witness". There weren't any particularly
firm conclusions reached though I think.

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On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:06:02 +0100, "billy bookcase" <billy@anon.com> wrote:

I've just renewed my Residential Parking Permit for the
year, which would have run out on the 25th

This got me thinking. If instead I somehow ended up in
hospital and there was nobody else to pay, would I have
been charged the statutory amount ( for the sake of argument
£90) every single day ?

So that if I was kept in hospital for 10 months, I would come
out facing a bill for £27,000.

Or is there a maximum amount that applies for parking a car in
the one place and never moving it, in situations where
towing away etc. doesn't apply ?

For local authority controlled parking, yes, you can be fined for every day that the car is there without a permit.

In practice, most authorities have a policy which limits the number of sucessive fines issued to the same vehicle in the same place. That's partly because it's generally recognised that a car parked illegally for several
days without moving at all may well be there because of reasons beyond the control of the registered keeper (eg, the vehicle has broken down, or the keeper is unable to attend to to it), and partly because if it is deliberate then it's also likely to be a hard-to-enforce case (eg, the details are incorrect at DVLA).

So a car left parked illegally for a significant period of time (which can
vary from days to weeks, depending on circumstance) will almost certainly be towed away and impounded. That has benefits both ways. If it's deliberate evasion then the RK will have to provide proof of identity and address in
order to retrieve it, which means they will probably need to update their
data at DVLA, but, in any case, will need to pay all outstanding fines
before driving it away. And if it is a situation such as the one you
describe, with the RK being incapacitated for a significant period of time, then the car will be safer in the pound than it will be on the street.

Mark

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On 2025-04-23, Mark Goodge <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:

So a car left parked illegally for a significant period of time (which can vary from days to weeks, depending on circumstance) will almost certainly be towed away and impounded.

Until recently there was a moped parked illegally on the pavement near
here that was there for about three years. The owners didn't seem to
care, and neither did the council, although they did eventually stick
a notice on it and then disappear it to somewhere.

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"Mark Goodge" <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote in message news:u2th0k1t4v4g57rvirvffd86fm19p0sbt0@4ax.com...

On Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:06:02 +0100, "billy bookcase" <billy@anon.com> wrote:

I've just renewed my Residential Parking Permit for the
year, which would have run out on the 25th

This got me thinking. If instead I somehow ended up in
hospital and there was nobody else to pay, would I have
been charged the statutory amount ( for the sake of argument
£90) every single day ?

So that if I was kept in hospital for 10 months, I would come
out facing a bill for £27,000.

Or is there a maximum amount that applies for parking a car in
the one place and never moving it, in situations where
towing away etc. doesn't apply ?

For local authority controlled parking, yes, you can be fined for every day that the car is there without a permit.

In practice, most authorities have a policy which limits the number of sucessive fines issued to the same vehicle in the same place. That's partly because it's generally recognised that a car parked illegally for several days without moving at all may well be there because of reasons beyond the control of the registered keeper (eg, the vehicle has broken down, or the keeper is unable to attend to to it), and partly because if it is deliberate then it's also likely to be a hard-to-enforce case (eg, the details are incorrect at DVLA).

So a car left parked illegally for a significant period of time (which can vary from days to weeks, depending on circumstance) will almost certainly be towed away and impounded. That has benefits both ways. If it's deliberate evasion then the RK will have to provide proof of identity and address in order to retrieve it, which means they will probably need to update their data at DVLA, but, in any case, will need to pay all outstanding fines
before driving it away. And if it is a situation such as the one you describe, with the RK being incapacitated for a significant period of time, then the car will be safer in the pound than it will be on the street.

Thanks. It would be nice to think that even in these straitened times,
my Local Council would pass up the chance to earn themselves £27,000;
or at least have a good try. And I can only hope that you're right.

The situation only arose because I had 3 bills to pay, Phone, Leccy and
Permit which I delayed paying so as to put them onto next months CC bill.
At the very same time as Barclaycard were delaying statements as a
result of the Bank Holiday.

And it then that it occurred to me that in failing to pay the former, the
worst that could happen would be the phone or leccy being cut off until
the bill was paid. Whereas failing to pay the latter would result in a
growing bill, which within the space of around four weeks, would already
exceed the value of the van.



bb

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On 23/04/2025 19:24, billy bookcase wrote:

And it then that it occurred to me that in failing to pay the former, the worst that could happen would be the phone or leccy being cut off until
the bill was paid. Whereas failing to pay the latter would result in a growing bill, which within the space of around four weeks, would already exceed the value of the van.

I wouldn't bet on it with the phone and power. It's possible you'll be
charged a disconnection and/or reconnection fee.

Andy

--
Do not listen to rumour, but, if you do, do not believe it.
Ghandi.

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