• How to recover County Court costs

    From Malcolm Loades@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 27 10:18:37 2025
    I find this situation almost unbelievable.

    I made a small claim in the county Court against an international
    insurance company, QBE Insurance Company (UK) Ltd. They didn't submit a defence and I was awarded judgement by default. Upon receiving
    judgement they applied to have it set-aside. At the set-aside hearing
    their application was dismissed and I was awarded my costs.

    Despite giving them 14 days in which to pay my costs after they received
    notice of the set aside dismissal they have not paid after 4 weeks!

    I presume I can issue another small claim in the County Court for these
    costs? The Bailiffs will of course recover the original sum but is it possible to have these costs added to what they're already after?

    This is a company whose most recent reported profit after tax was
    £23,866,000! Can you believe it?

    Malcolm

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  • From Malcolm Loades@21:1/5 to Malcolm Loades on Fri Jun 27 10:23:57 2025
    On 27/06/2025 10:18, Malcolm Loades wrote:

    This is a company whose most recent reported profit after tax was £23,866,000! Can you believe it?

    Ignore, I got that wrong. Apologies.

    Malcolm

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  • From The Todal@21:1/5 to Malcolm Loades on Fri Jun 27 10:45:58 2025
    On 27/06/2025 10:23, Malcolm Loades wrote:
    On 27/06/2025 10:18, Malcolm Loades wrote:

    This is a company whose most recent reported profit after tax was
    £23,866,000!  Can you believe it?

    Ignore, I got that wrong.  Apologies.

    Malcolm


    Was the profit more, or less than that? :)

    If costs are owed to you by a defendant you would not start a fresh
    court action to recover those costs. You would proceed by way of
    enforcement of your existing judgment.

    I'm afraid a delay of 4 weeks is not at all unusual when you're dealing
    with insurance companies, but they will probably pay up in the end when
    they match the documents with the correct file.

    You could try hassling them by fax as well as post and email. Even now,
    faxes generally get read more quickly.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Malcolm Loades on Fri Jun 27 11:16:28 2025
    On 27/06/2025 10:18, Malcolm Loades wrote:
    I find this situation almost unbelievable.

    I made a small claim in the county Court against an international
    insurance company, QBE Insurance Company (UK) Ltd.  They didn't submit a defence and I was awarded judgement by default.  Upon receiving
    judgement they applied to have it set-aside.  At the set-aside hearing
    their application was dismissed and I was awarded my costs.

    Despite giving them 14 days in which to pay my costs after they received notice of the set aside dismissal they have not paid after 4 weeks!

    I presume I can issue another small claim in the County Court for these costs?   The Bailiffs will of course recover the original sum but is it possible to have these costs added to what they're already after?

    Do you need to make another claim for the costs? Don't you already have
    a court order for a specific amount of costs?

    I'd check with whatever firm of bailiffs you instruct, although, as
    Todal says, you maybe should just give them a bit more time to get round
    to it.

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  • From Malcolm Loades@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jun 27 15:58:33 2025
    On 27/06/2025 11:16, GB wrote:
    On 27/06/2025 10:18, Malcolm Loades wrote:
    I find this situation almost unbelievable.

    I made a small claim in the county Court against an international
    insurance company, QBE Insurance Company (UK) Ltd.  They didn't submit a
    defence and I was awarded judgement by default.  Upon receiving
    judgement they applied to have it set-aside.  At the set-aside hearing
    their application was dismissed and I was awarded my costs.

    Despite giving them 14 days in which to pay my costs after they received
    notice of the set aside dismissal they have not paid after 4 weeks!

    I presume I can issue another small claim in the County Court for these
    costs?   The Bailiffs will of course recover the original sum but is it
    possible to have these costs added to what they're already after?

    Do you need to make another claim for the costs? Don't you already have
    a court order for a specific amount of costs?


    The original Judgment was for the money owed, Court Fee and my costs to
    bring the claim. So a total of £x pounds.

    I attended the unsuccessful hearing to have the judgement set aside.
    After the Judge gave his dismissal ruling I asked if I could claim
    travel expenses incurred in attending the Court, plus time taken to
    produce my statement and Recorded Delivery to the Court. He agreed
    costs of £y after I proved these costs.

    The Defendant therefore now owes me £x + y.

    The problem I see is that the Bailiffs will be pursuing the original
    judgement sum. The set-aside dismissal hearing was not a new judgement,
    just confirmation of the original.

    Malcolm

    I'd check with whatever firm of bailiffs you instruct, although, as
    Todal says, you maybe should just give them a bit more time to get round
    to it.




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  • From Jon Ribbens@21:1/5 to Malcolm Loades on Fri Jun 27 20:08:00 2025
    On 2025-06-27, Malcolm Loades <devnull@loades.net> wrote:
    On 27/06/2025 11:16, GB wrote:
    On 27/06/2025 10:18, Malcolm Loades wrote:
    I find this situation almost unbelievable.

    I made a small claim in the county Court against an international
    insurance company, QBE Insurance Company (UK) Ltd.  They didn't submit a >>> defence and I was awarded judgement by default.  Upon receiving
    judgement they applied to have it set-aside.  At the set-aside hearing
    their application was dismissed and I was awarded my costs.

    Despite giving them 14 days in which to pay my costs after they received >>> notice of the set aside dismissal they have not paid after 4 weeks!

    I presume I can issue another small claim in the County Court for these
    costs?   The Bailiffs will of course recover the original sum but is it >>> possible to have these costs added to what they're already after?

    Do you need to make another claim for the costs? Don't you already have
    a court order for a specific amount of costs?

    The original Judgment was for the money owed, Court Fee and my costs to
    bring the claim. So a total of £x pounds.

    I attended the unsuccessful hearing to have the judgement set aside.
    After the Judge gave his dismissal ruling I asked if I could claim
    travel expenses incurred in attending the Court, plus time taken to
    produce my statement and Recorded Delivery to the Court. He agreed
    costs of £y after I proved these costs.

    The Defendant therefore now owes me £x + y.

    The problem I see is that the Bailiffs will be pursuing the original judgement sum. The set-aside dismissal hearing was not a new judgement,
    just confirmation of the original.

    The hearing will have produced an Order from the court, dismissing the application to set aside and ordering that the costs be paid by the
    applicant. If you don't have a copy of it, contact the court to ask for
    one. Then send it to the bailiffs and ask them to get those costs too
    while they're at it.

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