On 16/07/2025 01:54 PM, JNugent wrote:

On 15/07/2025 04:31 PM, billy bookcase wrote:

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On 15/07/2025 09:16 AM, billy bookcase wrote:

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On 12/07/2025 07:08 PM, billy bookcase wrote:

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On 12/07/2025 10:18 AM, billy bookcase wrote:

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On 11/07/2025 10:35 PM, Roger Hayter wrote:

Indeed. But it is a rather strongly-held principle of the
Israeli state that they are not planning on suddenly
enfranchising a non-Jewish majority any time soon.

No doubt you will be able to prove that by reference to a
Statute or other legal provision.

But that has not happened.

quote:
Basic Law: Israel as the Nation-State of the Jewish People
[...]:informally known as the Nation-State Bill or the
Nationality Bill,[1] is an Israeli Basic Law that specifies
the country's significance to the Jewish people. It was
passed by the Knesset-with 62 in favour, 55 against, and two
abstentions-on 19 July 2018 and is largely symbolic and
declarative in nature.The law outlines a number of roles
and responsibilities by which Israel is bound in order to
fulfill the purpose of serving as the Jews' nation-state
unquote

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_Law:_Israel_as_the_Nation-State_of_the_Jewish_People

What is the relevance of that Wikipedia citation?

Now let's see.
How about...If Israel is to function "as the Jews' nation-state",
as described in the above "Law", which you were so keen to hear
all about, then it's probably not a very good idea to enable large >>>>>> numbers of people to vote, who are fundamentally opposed to the
very idea of a Jewish Nation State,
Something along those lines should do the trick, I'd imagine.

Where's the Statute / Bill / Act / whatever?
It ought to exist online if it exists at all.

As above

quote:
The Nation-State Bill or the Nationality Bill,[1] is an Israeli Basic
Law that specifies the country's significance to the Jewish people.
It was passed by the Knesset-with 62 in favour, 55 against.
unquote.

Right.
So please quote the Section(s) of what must by now be an Act that say
what others (and perhaps, though not necessarily, you) are saying
it/they say(s).
Expressing the significance of Israel to Jews is hardly the same
thing as preventing citizenship for non-Jews, as I know you will readily >>> agree.

Roger's original point, to which you took such exemption was, if you
remember...

" it is a rather strongly-held principle of Israeli state that
they are not planning on suddenly enfranchising a non-Jewish majority
any time"

I merely want evidence to support that assertion, plus an explanation of
how the "Nation-State Bill or Nationality Bill" makes provision that citizenship denies citizenship of Israel to non-Jews.

That's reasonable enough, isn't it?

[Apologies for the aberrant "citizenship" before "denies".]

Granting citizenship to some non-Jews, is not the same thing as
enfranchising non-Jewish majority any time. As I know you will
readily agree.

What does that mean?

Do you have any figures with which to back it up?

Now comes the bit which you seem to be having such a problem with -
If Israel enfranchised a non-Jewish majority at any time ...
then that would immediately undermine the whole purpose of the setting
up of the State of Israel in the first place; as a Jewish State for
Jewish people

Says who?
And on what basis?

As before, if you're still having problems understanding what is, after
all, a fairly simple point, then I can only suggest you show this post to
somebody else; who may be able to better explain it to you, than I
apparently can.

All you (or anyone else) need to prove is that the claim referenced
above is given life in legislation passed by the Knesset.

No-one supporting that proposition seems even prepared to search for it
and so the default position and working assumption has to be that no
such legislation exists (that despite the claims made for this or that
Bill, as quoted above).

So show and tell this elusive legislative provision, or it doesn't exist.

I can't say fairer than that.

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