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    From Ottavio Caruso@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 8 20:26:32 2025
    Direct Action Training:

    https://directactiontraining.org/


    is a new website created by the proscribed terrorist group Palestine Action.

    Question: is this breaking the proscription? The IP address seems to be located in Iceland. Is this enough to get around the ban?

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    Ottavio Caruso

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  • From Norman Wells@21:1/5 to Ottavio Caruso on Wed Jul 9 08:50:31 2025
    On 08/07/2025 20:26, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    Direct Action Training:

    https://directactiontraining.org/

    is a new website created by the proscribed terrorist group Palestine
    Action.

    Question: is this breaking the proscription?  The IP address seems to be located in Iceland. Is this enough to get around the ban?

    Of course. It's only a proscribed organisation in the UK, and the
    powers that be here haven't yet caught up with the idea that we are not
    the whole world and don't rule it. It's a continuation of the ludicrous 'Spycatcher' mentality that led to the book being banned in the UK in
    1987 when it was freely available everywhere else.

    Sometime, they may get round to appreciating that you cannot suppress
    ideas or opinions or free speech worldwide but their arrogance is such
    that I don't expect to see it any time soon. They also haven't caught
    up with the internet age of instant communication and access to information.

    I guess the next action by this repressive government will be to try to
    ban access from the UK to any website they consider is linked to
    Palestine Action, but that's playing whack-a-mole because each
    suppression takes time, and another will pop up as soon as they do.

    It's all futile. Those who want will find a way round.

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  • From Jethro_uk@21:1/5 to Norman Wells on Wed Jul 9 09:15:36 2025
    On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 08:50:31 +0100, Norman Wells wrote:

    On 08/07/2025 20:26, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    Of course. It's only a proscribed organisation in the UK, and the
    powers that be here haven't yet caught up with the idea that we are not
    the whole world and don't rule it. It's a continuation of the ludicrous 'Spycatcher' mentality that led to the book being banned in the UK in
    1987 when it was freely available everywhere else.

    Including Scotland.

    When I was working in London, in 1987, there were enterprising fellows
    who bought boxes down from Scotland and were openly selling them outside
    Baker St. Station.

    I didn't need a copy because (a) I had no reason to believe the
    allegations weren't true (and I've grown up here). But also a lecturer
    had a copy he bought in the US that was doing the rounds.

    AIR Australia made it quite clear that they were no longer under the Westminster thumb too.

    Overall: UK-0; Common sense-a lot.

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  • From Nick Odell@21:1/5 to jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com on Wed Jul 9 13:58:56 2025
    On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 09:15:36 -0000 (UTC), Jethro_uk
    <jethro_uk@hotmailbin.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 09 Jul 2025 08:50:31 +0100, Norman Wells wrote:

    On 08/07/2025 20:26, Ottavio Caruso wrote:
    [quoted text muted]

    Of course. It's only a proscribed organisation in the UK, and the
    powers that be here haven't yet caught up with the idea that we are not
    the whole world and don't rule it. It's a continuation of the ludicrous
    'Spycatcher' mentality that led to the book being banned in the UK in
    1987 when it was freely available everywhere else.

    Including Scotland.

    When I was working in London, in 1987, there were enterprising fellows
    who bought boxes down from Scotland and were openly selling them outside >Baker St. Station.

    I didn't need a copy because (a) I had no reason to believe the
    allegations weren't true (and I've grown up here). But also a lecturer
    had a copy he bought in the US that was doing the rounds.

    AIR Australia made it quite clear that they were no longer under the >Westminster thumb too.

    The Spycatcher Trial by Malcolm Turnbull exposed a lot of the antics
    the UK government performed to try and squash the book and a lot of
    the cunning devices he, the magnificent, wise, talented, canny, brave
    lawyer used to thwart them. Yes, the book is a bit of an ego trip for
    Turnbull. Inevitable I suppose that after that he turned to politics.

    Nick

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