We take regular senior breaks in hotels around the country. I always
pick one with a leisure centre as swimming combined with a steam room
or sauna is my main form of exercise and relaxation. I have noticed an increasing trend for such leisure centres to have no drinking water
available to iuers, either by fountain or bottled. Hydration is of
major importance after a steam room or sauna and I wonder if these
hotels are infringing Health and Safety rules and risking a negligence
charge if an inexperienced user ended up being dehydrated?
We take regular senior breaks in hotels around the country. I always
pick one with a leisure centre as swimming combined with a steam room
or sauna is my main form of exercise and relaxation. I have noticed an increasing trend for such leisure centres to have no drinking water
available to iuers, either by fountain or bottled. Hydration is of
major importance after a steam room or sauna and I wonder if these
hotels are infringing Health and Safety rules and risking a negligence
charge if an inexperienced user ended up being dehydrated?
On 1 Aug 2025 at 10:51:58 BST, Martin Harran wrote:
We take regular senior breaks in hotels around the country. I always
pick one with a leisure centre as swimming combined with a steam room
or sauna is my main form of exercise and relaxation. I have noticed an
increasing trend for such leisure centres to have no drinking water
available to iuers, either by fountain or bottled. Hydration is of
major importance after a steam room or sauna and I wonder if these
hotels are infringing Health and Safety rules and risking a negligence
charge if an inexperienced user ended up being dehydrated?
I recently had this expereince at a national museum - no potable water. I had a good moan but no management on site that day.
That they should provide free drinking water doesn't seem to have occurred to them.
We take regular senior breaks in hotels around the country. I always
pick one with a leisure centre as swimming combined with a steam room
or sauna is my main form of exercise and relaxation. I have noticed an increasing trend for such leisure centres to have no drinking water
available to iuers, either by fountain or bottled. Hydration is of
major importance after a steam room or sauna and I wonder if these
hotels are infringing Health and Safety rules and risking a negligence
charge if an inexperienced user ended up being dehydrated?
On 01/08/2025 10:51, Martin Harran wrote:
We take regular senior breaks in hotels around the country. I always
pick one with a leisure centre as swimming combined with a steam room
or sauna is my main form of exercise and relaxation. I have noticed an
increasing trend for such leisure centres to have no drinking water
available to iuers, either by fountain or bottled. Hydration is of
major importance after a steam room or sauna and I wonder if these
hotels are infringing Health and Safety rules and risking a negligence
charge if an inexperienced user ended up being dehydrated?
In hotels, don't they still provide a kettle, a teapot and some teabags?
And a tap from which you can fill the kettle? Or is that only for the
cheap old fashioned hotels?
On Fri, 1 Aug 2025 20:36:51 +0100, The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com>
wrote:
On 01/08/2025 10:51, Martin Harran wrote:
We take regular senior breaks in hotels around the country. I always
pick one with a leisure centre as swimming combined with a steam room
or sauna is my main form of exercise and relaxation. I have noticed an
increasing trend for such leisure centres to have no drinking water
available to iuers, either by fountain or bottled. Hydration is of
major importance after a steam room or sauna and I wonder if these
hotels are infringing Health and Safety rules and risking a negligence
charge if an inexperienced user ended up being dehydrated?
In hotels, don't they still provide a kettle, a teapot and some teabags?
And a tap from which you can fill the kettle? Or is that only for the
cheap old fashioned hotels?
Yes they generally do but that's in the bedroom - electric kettles
are not recommended near swimming pools and electric sockets for
plugging them into are not provided.
In the gym which I used to belong to until I realised that I wasn't
getting my money's worth, there was at least one water fountain
dispensing chilled water.
But I don't suppose there is a requirement in our laws.
On 2025-08-01, The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote:
On 01/08/2025 10:51, Martin Harran wrote:
We take regular senior breaks in hotels around the country. I always
pick one with a leisure centre as swimming combined with a steam room
or sauna is my main form of exercise and relaxation. I have noticed an
increasing trend for such leisure centres to have no drinking water
available to iuers, either by fountain or bottled. Hydration is of
major importance after a steam room or sauna and I wonder if these
hotels are infringing Health and Safety rules and risking a negligence
charge if an inexperienced user ended up being dehydrated?
In hotels, don't they still provide a kettle, a teapot and some teabags?
And a tap from which you can fill the kettle? Or is that only for the
cheap old fashioned hotels?
Al Murray has a long-running "Sink vs Kettle" competition on his xitter account to determine, in the many hotel rooms in which he has stayed,
whether the size and shape of the sink actually makes it possible to
fit the kettle under the tap to fill it. Pretty often, the sink wins.
On 01/08/2025 21:06, Jon Ribbens wrote:
On 2025-08-01, The Todal <the_todal@icloud.com> wrote:
On 01/08/2025 10:51, Martin Harran wrote:
We take regular senior breaks in hotels around the country. I always
pick one with a leisure centre as swimming combined with a steam room
or sauna is my main form of exercise and relaxation. I have noticed an >>>> increasing trend for such leisure centres to have no drinking water
available to iuers, either by fountain or bottled. Hydration is of
major importance after a steam room or sauna and I wonder if these
hotels are infringing Health and Safety rules and risking a negligence >>>> charge if an inexperienced user ended up being dehydrated?
In hotels, don't they still provide a kettle, a teapot and some teabags? >>> And a tap from which you can fill the kettle? Or is that only for the
cheap old fashioned hotels?
Al Murray has a long-running "Sink vs Kettle" competition on his xitter
account to determine, in the many hotel rooms in which he has stayed,
whether the size and shape of the sink actually makes it possible to
fit the kettle under the tap to fill it. Pretty often, the sink wins.
I don't think hotel mini-bars are as common as they used to be. Maybe
it's more trouble than it's worth to have someone inspect the mini
fridge and see what drinks are missing and do the calculation and
replace the items for the next guest.
Not the recommended procedure: https://www.healthline.com/health/how-to-use-a-sauna#finnish-sauna-use
"According to the North American Sauna Society, you should give
yourself plenty of time to enjoy a traditional Finnish sauna. These
are the steps they recommend you take:
Before you enter the sauna, drink one to two glasses of water and
rinse off in a shower
Warm yourself in a dry sauna for up to 10 minutes without adding
humidity.
Exit and rinse off in a second quick shower.
Allow your body to continue to cool down by drinking something
refreshing, such as water.
Re-enter the sauna for another 10 minutes or so. For this second
visit, you can add steam by ladling water onto the sauna rocks.
You can also use a traditional whisk made of tree twigs to gently beat
or massage the skin. This whisk is called a vihta in Finnish. It's
often made from eucalyptus, birch, or oak. Using a vihta is thought to
help reduce muscle aches and soften skin.
Exit and wash your body thoroughly; cool down again with a glass of
water.
Re-enter the sauna for your final visit of approximately 10 minutes.
Cool down in a cold outdoor pool or by rolling in snow. You can also
use a cool-to-cold indoor shower.
Lie down and relax for as long as you need to.
Drink at least one full glass of water, accompanied by a light snack.
Once your body feels completely cooled down and has stopped
perspiring, you can dress and exit the building."
On 01/08/2025 16:28, RJH wrote:
On 1 Aug 2025 at 10:51:58 BST, Martin Harran wrote:
We take regular senior breaks in hotels around the country. I always
pick one with a leisure centre as swimming combined with a steam room
or sauna is my main form of exercise and relaxation. I have noticed an
increasing trend for such leisure centres to have no drinking water
available to iuers, either by fountain or bottled. Hydration is of
major importance after a steam room or sauna and I wonder if these
hotels are infringing Health and Safety rules and risking a negligence
charge if an inexperienced user ended up being dehydrated?
I recently had this expereince at a national museum - no potable water. I had
a good moan but no management on site that day.
How long do you spend in a museum? If your kidneys are working properly
you should be able to go at least four hours without water, even in hot weather.
That they should provide free drinking water doesn't seem to have occurred to
them.
Why free? We don't expect institutions to provide free food.
On 1 Aug 2025 at 19:36:05 BST, Max Demian wrote:
On 01/08/2025 16:28, RJH wrote:
On 1 Aug 2025 at 10:51:58 BST, Martin Harran wrote:
We take regular senior breaks in hotels around the country. I
always pick one with a leisure centre as swimming combined with a
steam room or sauna is my main form of exercise and relaxation. I
have noticed an increasing trend for such leisure centres to have
no drinking water available to iuers, either by fountain or
bottled. Hydration is of major importance after a steam room or
sauna and I wonder if these hotels are infringing Health and
Safety rules and risking a negligence charge if an inexperienced
user ended up being dehydrated?
I recently had this expereince at a national museum - no potable
water. I had a good moan but no management on site that day.
How long do you spend in a museum? If your kidneys are working
properly you should be able to go at least four hours without water,
even in hot weather.
About 4 hours. I'd bought a meal and coffee (£15) and fancied a
glass of water. It was high 20s outside, and very warm and humid
inside (early July).
FYI, not everyone is comfortable with that amount of time without
water. A lot of elderly and young folk on the day I visited (National Motrocycle Museum). I was OK though, thanks.
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