• Re: Identifying forgeries or froggeries on a mdoerated group

    From Pamela@21:1/5 to Roger Hayter on Tue Jun 7 12:01:41 2022
    XPost: uk.net.news.moderation

    On 15:29 6 Jun 2022, Roger Hayter said:
    On 6 Jun 2022 at 14:49:50 BST, "Pamela"
    <uklm@permabulator.33mail.com> wrote:
    On 08:55 5 Jun 2022, brian said:
    In message <slrnt9mp6h.475.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu>, Jon
    Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> writes
    On 2022-06-03, Pamela <uklm@permabulator.33mail.com> wrote:


    How can a poster on a moderated group identify another post
    passing off as one of theirs?

    Someone (very likely Brian Reay to judge by the style, timing,
    purpose and the message headers) posted a message to U.L.M. which
    looked as if it was from me. I replied correcting a factual
    error he wrote in my name, and I also identified his post as
    fake. My post was rejected.

    I rejected your post, because you were calling another poster a
    forger. You're not allowed to say such things about other posters,
    regardless of whether or not they're true.

    The complete bounced message is shown below. In brief, I wrote:

    "The specific crown design is a reserved symbol and can not be
    simply a decoration else it would be a forgery. Which is just
    like the post which makes that mistake."

    How does a poster draw attention to readers of a moderated group
    to a post masquerading as one of theirs? Posting about it to
    this group (uk.net.news.moderation) is unsatisfactory as it has a
    different readership than the original thread.

    If you had said something like "To avoid confusion, please note
    that I am not the poster I am replying to, despite the similarity
    of posting identities" then I certainly would not have rejected
    the post.

    Hmm I thought it might have been the header :-

    x-Laura-header: Does Brian drink beer? Is he posting while drunk?

    Brian ( no relation)

    Brian, the intriguing thing is not that you're poring over headers
    as I expected you would because your forgery uses the same headers
    as your Laura sock.

    It's more intriguing you don't make an outright denial of these
    forgeries made in my name to ULM and also to this group, UNNM.

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165452323800
    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165452326600

    Perhaps it's time to stop your underhanded game playing. What is
    its point? I can only guess that you make these posts when alcohol
    has reduced your caution.

    As he said, he is the wrong Brian!

    Yup, Brian is definitely a wrong 'un. He has a history of provoking
    people to such an extent that it become dangerous. I suspect there are
    more examples than the two I came across:

    From this group: http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165459939800

    From uk.legal: https://narkive.com/pKN7ddgU

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  • From Roger Hayter@21:1/5 to Pamela on Tue Jun 7 12:40:11 2022
    XPost: uk.net.news.moderation

    On 7 Jun 2022 at 12:01:41 BST, "Pamela" <uklm@permabulator.33mail.com> wrote:

    On 15:29 6 Jun 2022, Roger Hayter said:
    On 6 Jun 2022 at 14:49:50 BST, "Pamela"
    <uklm@permabulator.33mail.com> wrote:
    On 08:55 5 Jun 2022, brian said:
    In message <slrnt9mp6h.475.jon+usenet@raven.unequivocal.eu>, Jon
    Ribbens <jon+usenet@unequivocal.eu> writes
    On 2022-06-03, Pamela <uklm@permabulator.33mail.com> wrote:


    How can a poster on a moderated group identify another post
    passing off as one of theirs?

    Someone (very likely Brian Reay to judge by the style, timing,
    purpose and the message headers) posted a message to U.L.M. which
    looked as if it was from me. I replied correcting a factual
    error he wrote in my name, and I also identified his post as
    fake. My post was rejected.

    I rejected your post, because you were calling another poster a
    forger. You're not allowed to say such things about other posters,
    regardless of whether or not they're true.

    The complete bounced message is shown below. In brief, I wrote:

    "The specific crown design is a reserved symbol and can not be
    simply a decoration else it would be a forgery. Which is just
    like the post which makes that mistake."

    How does a poster draw attention to readers of a moderated group
    to a post masquerading as one of theirs? Posting about it to
    this group (uk.net.news.moderation) is unsatisfactory as it has a
    different readership than the original thread.

    If you had said something like "To avoid confusion, please note
    that I am not the poster I am replying to, despite the similarity
    of posting identities" then I certainly would not have rejected
    the post.

    Hmm I thought it might have been the header :-

    x-Laura-header: Does Brian drink beer? Is he posting while drunk?

    Brian ( no relation)

    Brian, the intriguing thing is not that you're poring over headers
    as I expected you would because your forgery uses the same headers
    as your Laura sock.

    It's more intriguing you don't make an outright denial of these
    forgeries made in my name to ULM and also to this group, UNNM.

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165452323800
    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165452326600

    Perhaps it's time to stop your underhanded game playing. What is
    its point? I can only guess that you make these posts when alcohol
    has reduced your caution.

    As he said, he is the wrong Brian!

    Yup, Brian is definitely a wrong 'un. He has a history of provoking
    people to such an extent that it become dangerous. I suspect there are
    more examples than the two I came across:

    From this group: http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165459939800

    From uk.legal: https://narkive.com/pKN7ddgU

    Indeed. But that is not the Brian you were talking to in this thread.

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    Roger Hayter

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