A long shot but someone may know.
I’ve just had a phone call from eldest who has my old 2006 CRV. It is making a noise which, based on what I can tell, sounds like a hole in the exhaust. I’m hearing this via a mobile phone so this isn’t by any means certain. Car was running fine previously.
The strange thing is, the engine warming light has come on.
I wouldn’t expect the system to detect a blown exhaust.
The exhaust is the original so it is due a change - the car must have done 90k + miles by now and is 16 years old.
Do engine warning systems on the Hondas detected exhaust problems?
In <t81qgn$1t7$1@dont-email.me> Brian <noinv@lid.org> writes:
[snip]
Mystery solved.
Son in law followed advice and sent photos.
Cat converter has been stolen.
sure hope he's not in NY or Calif. They require
_different_ cat's that are way, way, more expensive.
Oh wait, you're (apparently) in the UK. Well,
hopefully he's not in a jurisdictionwith
that monstrosity...
Mystery solved.
Son in law followed advice and sent photos.
Cat converter has been stolen.
Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
A long shot but someone may know.
I‘ve just had a phone call from eldest who has my old 2006 CRV. It is making a noise which, based on what I can tell, sounds like a hole in the exhaust. I‘m hearing this via a mobile phone so this isn‘t by any means certain. Car was running fine previously.
The strange thing is, the engine warming light has come on.
I wouldn‘t expect the system to detect a blown exhaust.
The exhaust is the original so it is due a change - the car must have done 90k + miles by now and is 16 years old.
Do engine warning systems on the Hondas detected exhaust problems?
Mystery solved.
Son in law followed advice and sent photos.
Cat converter has been stolen.
In article <t81qgn$1t7$1@dont-email.me>,
Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
A long shot but someone may know.
I‘ve just had a phone call from eldest who has my old 2006 CRV. It is
making a noise which, based on what I can tell, sounds like a hole in the >>> exhaust. I‘m hearing this via a mobile phone so this isn‘t by any means >>> certain. Car was running fine previously.
The strange thing is, the engine warming light has come on.
I wouldn‘t expect the system to detect a blown exhaust.
The exhaust is the original so it is due a change - the car must have done >>> 90k + miles by now and is 16 years old.
Do engine warning systems on the Hondas detected exhaust problems?
Mystery solved.
Son in law followed advice and sent photos.
Cat converter has been stolen.
Local FB group is full of such stories. About time the law clamped down on those scrap firms who buy them.
Indeed.
The silly thing is, the scrap value of the Cat is under £10 ( based on a Google search). I would think there are easier ways to make an illicit living. I’d cut their hands off.
I’m not sure how much other damage was done - certain the exhaust rear wards was cut and the wires. Eldest has looked on the net and thinks
several hundred pounds to get it repaired.
Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
Indeed.
The silly thing is, the scrap value of the Cat is under £10 ( based on a
Google search). I would think there are easier ways to make an illicit
living. I’d cut their hands off.
I think it very much depends. I had the cat stolen from my Prius, removed with a hydraulic cutter in the middle of the night. They couldn't get at
the second cat from underneath which was on the engine manifold, but I had
to scrap that part too. I got £100 scrap value for it. A replacement exhaust with two-piece cat from ebay was £120, plus £80 for bloke-in-a-shed to fit it. So I only lost £100.
Seems like the Toyota ones are in high demand for thieves, but I'm a bit surprised an aftermarket one is that cheap. Possibly they get away with
less platinum that the original, but whichever way it works fine.
I’m not sure how much other damage was done - certain the exhaust rear
wards was cut and the wires. Eldest has looked on the net and thinks
several hundred pounds to get it repaired.
Presumably new lambda sensor(s) as well, which makes it more pricey.
(although I just checked the Prius ones again, and a new double-cat
including lambda is £150. CRV ones start about £50 for older models, although looks more like £200-300 for a full exhaust)
Theo
Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
Indeed.
The silly thing is, the scrap value of the Cat is under £10 ( based on a >>>> Google search). I would think there are easier ways to make an illicit >>>> living. I’d cut their hands off.
I think it very much depends. I had the cat stolen from my Prius, removed >>> with a hydraulic cutter in the middle of the night. They couldn't get at >>> the second cat from underneath which was on the engine manifold, but I had >>> to scrap that part too. I got £100 scrap value for it. A replacement
exhaust with two-piece cat from ebay was £120, plus £80 for bloke-in-a-shed
to fit it. So I only lost £100.
Seems like the Toyota ones are in high demand for thieves, but I'm a bit >>> surprised an aftermarket one is that cheap. Possibly they get away with >>> less platinum that the original, but whichever way it works fine.
I’m not sure how much other damage was done - certain the exhaust rear >>>> wards was cut and the wires. Eldest has looked on the net and thinks
several hundred pounds to get it repaired.
Presumably new lambda sensor(s) as well, which makes it more pricey.
(although I just checked the Prius ones again, and a new double-cat
including lambda is £150. CRV ones start about £50 for older models,
although looks more like £200-300 for a full exhaust)
Theo
She is getting rough estimates of £700 with labour at the moment but I
don’t know exactly what that includes.
It includes making insurance companies richer and the rest of us poorer.
Tim
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
Indeed.
The silly thing is, the scrap value of the Cat is under £10 ( based on a >>> Google search). I would think there are easier ways to make an illicit
living. I’d cut their hands off.
I think it very much depends. I had the cat stolen from my Prius, removed >> with a hydraulic cutter in the middle of the night. They couldn't get at
the second cat from underneath which was on the engine manifold, but I had >> to scrap that part too. I got £100 scrap value for it. A replacement
exhaust with two-piece cat from ebay was £120, plus £80 for bloke-in-a-shed
to fit it. So I only lost £100.
Seems like the Toyota ones are in high demand for thieves, but I'm a bit
surprised an aftermarket one is that cheap. Possibly they get away with
less platinum that the original, but whichever way it works fine.
I’m not sure how much other damage was done - certain the exhaust rear >>> wards was cut and the wires. Eldest has looked on the net and thinks
several hundred pounds to get it repaired.
Presumably new lambda sensor(s) as well, which makes it more pricey.
(although I just checked the Prius ones again, and a new double-cat
including lambda is £150. CRV ones start about £50 for older models,
although looks more like £200-300 for a full exhaust)
Theo
She is getting rough estimates of £700 with labour at the moment but I don’t know exactly what that includes.
Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
Indeed.
The silly thing is, the scrap value of the Cat is under £10 ( based on a Google search). I would think there are easier ways to make an illicit living. I‘d cut their hands off.
I think it very much depends. I had the cat stolen from my Prius, removed with a hydraulic cutter in the middle of the night. They couldn't get at
the second cat from underneath which was on the engine manifold, but I had
to scrap that part too. I got £100 scrap value for it. A replacement exhaust with two-piece cat from ebay was £120, plus £80 for bloke-in-a-shed to fit it. So I only lost £100.
Seems like the Toyota ones are in high demand for thieves, but I'm a bit surprised an aftermarket one is that cheap. Possibly they get away with
less platinum that the original, but whichever way it works fine.
I‘m not sure how much other damage was done - certain the exhaust rear wards was cut and the wires. Eldest has looked on the net and thinks several hundred pounds to get it repaired.
Presumably new lambda sensor(s) as well, which makes it more pricey.
(although I just checked the Prius ones again, and a new double-cat
including lambda is £150. CRV ones start about £50 for older models, although looks more like £200-300 for a full exhaust)
Tim+ <tim.downie@gmail.com> wrote:
Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
Indeed.
The silly thing is, the scrap value of the Cat is under £10 ( based on a >>>>> Google search). I would think there are easier ways to make an illicit >>>>> living. I’d cut their hands off.
I think it very much depends. I had the cat stolen from my Prius, removed >>>> with a hydraulic cutter in the middle of the night. They couldn't get at >>>> the second cat from underneath which was on the engine manifold, but I had >>>> to scrap that part too. I got £100 scrap value for it. A replacement >>>> exhaust with two-piece cat from ebay was £120, plus £80 for bloke-in-a-shed
to fit it. So I only lost £100.
Seems like the Toyota ones are in high demand for thieves, but I'm a bit >>>> surprised an aftermarket one is that cheap. Possibly they get away with >>>> less platinum that the original, but whichever way it works fine.
I’m not sure how much other damage was done - certain the exhaust rear >>>>> wards was cut and the wires. Eldest has looked on the net and thinks >>>>> several hundred pounds to get it repaired.
Presumably new lambda sensor(s) as well, which makes it more pricey.
(although I just checked the Prius ones again, and a new double-cat
including lambda is £150. CRV ones start about £50 for older models, >>>> although looks more like £200-300 for a full exhaust)
Theo
She is getting rough estimates of £700 with labour at the moment but I
don’t know exactly what that includes.
It includes making insurance companies richer and the rest of us poorer.
Tim
Sorry, shoulda said garages richer and us poorer.
Another alternative is to buy the parts and get a garage to fit them.
That might well save more than a couple of hundred.
In article <t87icb$8ud$1@dont-email.me>,
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
Another alternative is to buy the parts and get a garage to fit them.
That might well save more than a couple of hundred.
You'll be lucky to find a garage that will fit bits you supply.
Two reasons. They lose the profit on the parts.
If it goes wrong, there will be (more of) an argument as to why.
In article <t87icb$8ud$1@dont-email.me>,
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
Another alternative is to buy the parts and get a garage to fit them.
That might well save more than a couple of hundred.
You'll be lucky to find a garage that will fit bits you supply.
Two reasons. They lose the profit on the parts.
If it goes wrong, there will be (more of) an argument as to why.
On 14/06/2022 14:57, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <t87icb$8ud$1@dont-email.me>,
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
Another alternative is to buy the parts and get a garage to fit them.
That might well save more than a couple of hundred.
You'll be lucky to find a garage that will fit bits you supply.
Two reasons. They lose the profit on the parts.
If it goes wrong, there will be (more of) an argument as to why.
An alterative is a mobile mechanic.
Peter Hill <skyshac@yahoo.com> wrote:
On 14/06/2022 14:57, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article <t87icb$8ud$1@dont-email.me>,
Fredxx <fredxx@spam.uk> wrote:
Another alternative is to buy the parts and get a garage to fit them.
That might well save more than a couple of hundred.
You'll be lucky to find a garage that will fit bits you supply.
Two reasons. They lose the profit on the parts.
If it goes wrong, there will be (more of) an argument as to why.
An alterative is a mobile mechanic.
That's a good thought. Are they usually happy for customers to source
parts, in general?
I've had this argument with garages before, even underneath-the-arches ones. I know they make a markup on the parts, that's fine, just add the
markup on my bill. But:
1. the car was sufficiently old that you can't get the parts through the usual autofactors
2. because of #1, it saves them a lot of ringing around trying to source
them
3. because there weren't many cars left the parts were dirt cheap on
ebay, since there was no other use for them.
4. I'm happy to pay for their time if the parts turn out not to fit (which was a big headache for a model made in a transition year)
and still they were difficult about it.
I eventually found a bloke-inna-shed who was happy to do this, but he's semi-retired and quite busy. So it's always good to have alternatives.
A long shot but someone may know.
I’ve just had a phone call from eldest who has my old 2006 CRV. It is making a noise which, based on what I can tell, sounds like a hole in the exhaust. I’m hearing this via a mobile phone so this isn’t by any means certain. Car was running fine previously.
The strange thing is, the engine warming light has come on.
I wouldn’t expect the system to detect a blown exhaust.
The exhaust is the original so it is due a change - the car must have done 90k + miles by now and is 16 years old.
Do engine warning systems on the Hondas detected exhaust problems?
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