• 04 Corsa C steering funnies (long)

    From T i m@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 16 13:52:46 2024
    We have just picked up a fairly clean, 27k mile, 2004 Corsa C 1.2 16V
    for a member of the family and because daughter drove her 01 Corsa for
    10 years / 60K miles and to 200+ k miles, when she drove it home from
    the (backstreet) dealer she fairly quickly felt it had a subtle
    steering funny.

    The Corsa C's have EPS (Electronic Power Steering) so basically the
    steering column is driven by an electric motor though a very simple
    steering rack. The amount of 'assist' is managed though the ECU's and is
    backed off as the road speed increases. All that seems to be working fine.

    Along with ticking off all the basics (tyre pressures, tyre condition, 4
    wheel laser alignment / tracking etc) and getting a couple of local
    garages to test drive it for us, we all seem to agree there is
    something, we aren't any closer to what might be the cause, even if we
    now know more about what isn't.

    Because it's 'electric' I have also tested the battery / charging system
    and although bioth are 'Good', they might be considered 'a bit weak'.
    Eg, system voltage sits at 14.2V at engine idle, and when you apply any
    load (headlights, rear screen heater, blower, air-con or turn the
    steering wheel etc) you see on the OBD scope the voltage drop but unless
    the load is max, it recovers to 14.2 within a few seconds. At absolute
    max load it might drop to 13.9 and continue to fall slightly over time.

    Comparing that to my Meriva of the same year, that sits at 14.4V under
    all load situations but that may well have a higher capacity alternator
    (that is also very new) and a higher capacity battery.

    So, the steering symptoms are that as you are say exiting a large fast roundabout, the car will generally self centre but not quite all the
    way. Eg, it might continue slightly to the left ... it seems to have
    this 'sticky' spot around the middle? I feel it's only mild because the
    camber of the road also impacts the effect.

    With the vehicle up in the air and with the engine running you can take
    the steering from lock to lock by hand using either road wheel.

    When you are only moving slowly you are getting the most power steering assistance and the self centering isn't so apparent / expected it seems
    less noticeable as an issue. Eg, the EPS 'masks' the issue to some degree.

    So, working on the basis that there is some excess friction in the
    steering system somewhere (not much else would limit caster induced self centering I don't think), the bits that could add friction are, top
    strut bearing, lower strut ball joint, drop link, track road end, inner
    track control arm joint, rack, steering column coupling and the column /
    motor drive assy.

    I have ideas for tests to try to isolate some of that.

    Lift the front and drop the track rod ends and steer the leg(s) manually
    and check for any tightness / binding.

    Check the ease of movement of the track road end and track control arm
    inner joints.

    Remove the steering coupling and check for binding.

    I'm not sure yet what if anything could cause binding in the steering
    column itself or if there is anything that could be stripped, like to
    EPS motor etc.

    Then it's down to the (very simple) steering rack that whilst looking
    easy to strip / clean / check / re-lube / re-assemble etc, looks like a
    bit of a PITA to get off (you have to drop the rear of the subframe &
    exhaust etc).

    So this was really an overview of what we have felt / seen / done so far
    in the hope that someone might have seen similar on a similar system and
    so may be able to give us a good pointer to the most likely to be the cause.

    We factored the thought that we may have to do / spend something on such
    things but that extra cost would be worth it for the final solution etc.

    Part of that was familiarity with and fondness for the Corsa C as a
    simple and functional solution (and the Meriva A is built on the Corsa C platform and daughter and I have Meriva A's) and we also have some
    special tools and diagnostic kit etc.

    And FWIW, even daughters 2001 Corsa was ULEZ compliant, as is this 2004
    Corsa of course and both Merivas. ;-)

    Cheers, T i m

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