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    From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Sat May 13 13:09:38 2023
    On 13/05/2023 11:54 am, Spike wrote:

    Mike Collins <cmike8828@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 12 May 2023 at 16:57:36 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    Doctors will embark on a three-day bike chav-ride around the Greater London >>> boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the
    ultra-low emission zone.

    <snipped to save CO2>

    :-)

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

    How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

    QUOTE

    Berners-Lee estimates that globally emails could account for as much as
    150m tonnes CO2e in 2019, or about 0.3% of the world’s carbon footprint.

    That is based on around half of all emails sent being spam and the
    remainder being reasonably useful messages that took the sender 3 minutes
    to write and the reader about 1 minute to read. On that basis, average
    email usage is equivalent to driving a small petrol car for around 128
    miles.

    ENDQUOTE

    Just imagine how much extra it'd be if they were all on paper, sealed in envelopes and adorned with stamps whose purchase necessitated a trip to
    the Post Office, then a trip to the post box and extra weight in the
    postman's sack multiplied by many millions per annum.

    Plus all that ink (pencil lead or crayon in Mad Mason's case) and all
    that extra weight on air-mail. And all that paper, adhesive (for the
    envelopes) and shoe-leather / motor fuel.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat May 13 13:41:10 2023
    On 13/05/2023 01:23 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 11:23:59 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

    How much CO2 was produced by you posting this post?

    The CO₂ that I exhale comes from food, not fossil fuels.

    You consume fossil fuels, directly or vicariously [look it up], as part
    of that consumption of food... and drink...

    ...even when the drink is home-brew imbibed in a hole in a garage floor.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Mike Collins on Sun May 14 10:38:03 2023
    On 14/05/2023 08:52 am, Mike Collins wrote:

    On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 17:14:17 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:45:52 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

    Do wind turbines grow on trees?

    Funnily enough, yes.

    QUOTE: Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in applications like rotor blades for the wind industry. ENDS

    And the metal components for the generator?

    Recycled Copper from scrapped cars.

    And the lacquer for the copper wire?

    How much scrap copper may be recovered from the average car?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sun May 14 10:42:23 2023
    On 14/05/2023 09:53 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 8:52:29 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:
    On Saturday, 13 May 2023 at 17:14:17 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Saturday, May 13, 2023 at 3:45:52 PM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

    Do wind turbines grow on trees?

    Funnily enough, yes.

    QUOTE: Balsa wood has always been a good choice when it comes to applications that require a high stiffness-to-weight ratio in applications like rotor blades for the wind industry. ENDS

    And the metal components for the generator?

    Recycled Copper from scrapped cars.

    And the lacquer for the copper wire?

    Shellac.

    Useless as an insulator on winding wire in modern conditions. It's far
    too brittle (remember how insulated wire is used) and breaks down at too
    low a temperature.

    Even sixty years ago, the major manufacturers of winding wire had
    developed improved synthetic coatings which were indicated for most applications, simply because of the need for resistance to heat and
    tendency not to burn out.

    But it's alright that you didn't know that. One expects no more of the janitorial night shift staff.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Sun May 14 10:43:30 2023
    On 14/05/2023 10:19 am, Spike wrote:

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Everything about Alexandra Docks is big, from the 90-metre turbine towers
    that stand waiting to be floated out in January to a windfarm off the
    coast of Cromer, Norfolk, to the blade factory itself, which spans an
    area the size of seven football pitches.

    Inside its cavernous halls sit the 28-tonne blades under construction,
    made of balsa wood and fibreglass. Hundreds will be built there each
    year, destined for bigger, more powerful offshore windfarms in deeper
    waters up and down the UK’s coast.

    Hull's Siemens factory produces first batch of wind turbine blades.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/01/hull-siemens-factory-wind-turbine-blades

    QUOTE

    Up to 90 per cent of a wind turbine’s total mass can be recycled but not all parts have been easy to process.

    There are established procedures which deal with recovering materials from foundations, towers and components inside the nacelle – which holds the gearbox, shafts, generator and brake.

    But turbine blades have traditionally been challenging to recycle due to
    the composite materials used in their manufacture.

    And rotors can be massive. Some of the most modern blades measure up to
    118m long – longer than a football pitch – so they are also cumbersome to move about.

    ENDQUOTE

    Electric helicopters?

    :-)

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sun May 14 11:42:42 2023
    On 14/05/2023 11:26 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    On Sunday, May 14, 2023 at 10:15:09 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    Everything about Alexandra Docks is big, from the 90-metre turbine towers that stand waiting to be floated out in January to a windfarm off the coast of Cromer, Norfolk, to the blade factory itself, which spans an area the size of seven football
    pitches.

    Inside its cavernous halls sit the 28-tonne blades under construction, made of balsa wood and fibreglass. Hundreds will be built there each year, destined for bigger, more powerful offshore windfarms in deeper waters up and down the UK’s coast.

    Hull's Siemens factory produces first batch of wind turbine blades.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/01/hull-siemens-factory-wind-turbine-blades

    Glass = silica = sand.

    So says the night-shift cleaning staff, at least.

    Did I ever tell you about the time he tried to fix a window he'd broken?

    He found that the sand wouldn't stay in place, not even with copious
    amounts of putty.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Mike Collins on Sun May 14 17:53:04 2023
    On 14/05/2023 03:49 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
    On Sunday, 14 May 2023 at 10:45:54 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
    On 14/05/2023 10:19 am, Spike wrote:

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Everything about Alexandra Docks is big, from the 90-metre turbine towers >>>> that stand waiting to be floated out in January to a windfarm off the
    coast of Cromer, Norfolk, to the blade factory itself, which spans an
    area the size of seven football pitches.

    Inside its cavernous halls sit the 28-tonne blades under construction, >>>> made of balsa wood and fibreglass. Hundreds will be built there each
    year, destined for bigger, more powerful offshore windfarms in deeper
    waters up and down the UK’s coast.

    Hull's Siemens factory produces first batch of wind turbine blades.

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/dec/01/hull-siemens-factory-wind-turbine-blades

    QUOTE

    Up to 90 per cent of a wind turbine’s total mass can be recycled but not >>> all parts have been easy to process.

    There are established procedures which deal with recovering materials from >>> foundations, towers and components inside the nacelle – which holds the >>> gearbox, shafts, generator and brake.

    But turbine blades have traditionally been challenging to recycle due to >>> the composite materials used in their manufacture.

    And rotors can be massive. Some of the most modern blades measure up to
    118m long – longer than a football pitch – so they are also cumbersome to
    move about.

    ENDQUOTE
    Electric helicopters?

    :-)

    No joke.
    Hydrogen fuel cell jets already exist.
    'Jet' aircraft these days are high bypass turbofans and the burn can could be replaced with an electric motor powered by hydrogen.

    Absolutely.

    All that is necessary is the manufacture of batteries capacious and
    light enough to take a jetliner across the Atlantic or Pacific.

    Any day now... I'm sure....

    But you take the first transatlantic ride, old chap...

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Mon May 15 12:58:47 2023
    On 15/05/2023 09:24 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    An essential lumber product tucked inside the blades of sleek massive wind turbines is experiencing spot shortages of supply: Balsa wood.
    The lightweight wood is used to build sandwich panel construction that combines light weight and strength. Turbine blades contain arrays of balsa wood strips, much of it sourced from Ecuador, which supplies 95 percent of the world’s demand.
    For centuries, the fast-growing balsa tree has been prized for its light weight and stiffness relative to density. But balsa wood is expensive. Natural variations in the wood grain can be an impediment in increasingly precise performance requirements
    of turbine blades.
    Turbine makers are also producing ever-larger blades—the longest now measure more than 200 feet long, nearly the wingspan of an Airbus A380 jetliner. And they must be engineered to operate virtually maintenance-free for decades.

    Any idea of the full (visible and invisible) cost of importing tropical
    woods?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Mon May 15 14:27:54 2023
    On 15/05/2023 01:30 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> wrote:
    On 15/05/2023 09:24 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    An essential lumber product tucked inside the blades of sleek massive
    wind turbines is experiencing spot shortages of supply: Balsa wood.
    The lightweight wood is used to build sandwich panel construction that
    combines light weight and strength. Turbine blades contain arrays of
    balsa wood strips, much of it sourced from Ecuador, which supplies 95
    percent of the world’s demand.
    For centuries, the fast-growing balsa tree has been prized for its light >>> weight and stiffness relative to density. But balsa wood is expensive.
    Natural variations in the wood grain can be an impediment in
    increasingly precise performance requirements of turbine blades.
    Turbine makers are also producing ever-larger blades—the longest now
    measure more than 200 feet long, nearly the wingspan of an Airbus A380
    jetliner. And they must be engineered to operate virtually maintenance-free for decades.

    Any idea of the full (visible and invisible) cost of importing tropical
    woods?

    I’ll leave Mason to deal with the costs issue, but consider that one of the fundamental parameters of balsa is its density, which can vary from 60 to
    380 kg/m^3, which in turn suggests highly variable mechanical properties. This implies that much of the available balsa will not be suitable for structural use in a highly-engineered, demanding application.

    Which of course accounts for the move to carbon composites in the larger turbine blades that today’s economic environment demands.

    All that is true. But balsa, of course, is a tropical product and has to
    be carried here by ship. I rule out air-freight, not because of the
    weight, but because of the lengths insisted upon by Mad Mason, which are
    well beyond the capacity of the largest aircraft.

    Oo-er!

    Did someone say that Mason often insists upon a length?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Mon May 15 17:30:42 2023
    On 15/05/2023 05:21 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:12:15 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    SIEMENS IN HULL USE IT ALL THE TIME.
    SEE:

    https://cdn.offshorewind.biz/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/08/09083503/Siemens-Gamesa-to-Double-Hull-Blade-Facility.jpg

    My workplace at BP is to the right of this photo.

    In the water?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Mon May 15 17:45:53 2023
    On 15/05/2023 05:36 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> wrote:
    On 15/05/2023 05:21 pm, swldx...@gmail.com...

    ...pretending to respond to himself, said:

    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:12:15 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    SIEMENS IN HULL USE IT ALL THE TIME.
    SEE:

    https://cdn.offshorewind.biz/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2021/08/09083503/Siemens-Gamesa-to-Double-Hull-Blade-Facility.jpg

    My workplace at BP is to the right of this photo.

    In the water?

    Is that where he garaged his bicycle?

    I suppose so.

    Do you think he was brushing up the river-bed?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Mon May 15 20:04:42 2023
    On 15/05/2023 07:42 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 5:35:28 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

    They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air. ENDS

    The gammons don't give a toss about clean air and green spaces.

    A number of newly-installed Ultra Low Emission Zone (Ulez) cameras in south London have had their wires cut as the backlash against Sadiq Khan's expansion continues to grow.

    Four cameras in Abbey Wood, Greenwich, appear to have suffered damage, according to the reports.

    Ulez cameras come under Transport for London's Automatic Number Plater Recognition system, which operate 24/7 to monitor the zone.

    Some 300 new cameras have been installed across the expanded Ulez zone, which will cover all of London from August 29.

    Another 2,750 cameras are expected to be installed before the expansion officially takes place, costing around £45 million.

    It is the latest backlash against Mr Khan's expansion plans after the Mayor was slammed for decrying a "far-right element" to those who oppose the Ulez expansion.

    Speaking at a People's Question Time event last week, Mr Khan said some people with "legitimate objections" to the ULEZ expansion have been "joining hands" with those from people from "far-right groups".

    “Let’s be frank, let’s call a spade a spade. Some of those outside are part of the far-right. Some are Covid deniers. Some are vaccine-deniers. And some are Tories," the Mayor of London said. Mr Khan's comments sparked anger in the crowd, with
    members of the public shouting back to the Mayor: "We are not the far-right - normal people are not the far-right."

    Conservative Assembly Member Peter Fortune, also at the event, criticised Mr Khan's comments, saying: "You heard it didn’t you? If you disagree with the Mayor, he’s going to paint you as far-right."

    Mr Khan went on to say he will seek to address people's "legitimate concerns" and "make sure we carry on listening to make the ULEZ a success" Mr Khan previously said extending the ultra-low emission zone to cover the whole of the city was "one of the
    toughest decisions I've taken".

    But he has insisted air pollution is making Londoners "sick from cradle to the grave", with illnesses such as cancer, lung disease, dementia and asthma, and said he wants to remain "on the right side of history" by expanding Ulez.

    Meanwhile, four leading London Labour MPs are calling on Sadiq Khan to backtrack on his plans to extend the Ulez zone.

    Labour MPs Seema Malhotra, Jon Cruddas, Siobhain McDonagh and Abena Oppong-Asare told LBC in February they have significant concerns regarding the scheme’s expansion.

    Speaking to LBC News, Labour's Abena Oppong-Asare said: "My concern is we don't want to be in a situation where people are going to be worse off."

    Labour MPs know what they have to do.

    They have to urge the party to de-select Khan for the next election and
    they have to do it now. That won't stop him on his crazed path, but it
    would at least disassociate them from his malignant kleptocracy.

    They also need to link up with government side MPs who are equally
    against the £80 a week charge and seek government support for a fast
    Bill through Parliament which will either scrap the ULEZ theft or at the
    very least, reduce the daily take per vehicle to a nominal 10p (or
    something similar).

    Let's see how deep their concern" for the people really is.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue May 16 12:00:08 2023
    On 16/05/2023 05:55 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    QUOTE: Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the chav-cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

    “We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].” ENDS

    UKIP has done a study that says that's all false.

    See here: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwOXLi8XgAE9WpH?format=jpg&name=900x900

    Surely the country should also switch off all power stations?

    Especially the ones which pollute the air in localities outside London,
    just to provide power to that very =entitled city?

    If London wants gas and electricity and to be able to rid itself of
    waste, it shoyuld do it all within its own boundaries and not pollute
    the home areas of others.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed May 17 15:29:10 2023
    On 17/05/2023 10:32 am, Spike wrote:
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 1:38:46 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    Bloody experts - we had enough of them in "project fear" in 2016.

    Oh dear - what a surprise.
    Not.

    "Vauxhall owner warns it may be forced to close its Ellesmere Port
    factory unless ministers manage to renegotiate a key part of the UK’s
    Brexit deal with the EU."

    https://www.ft.com/content/8c80eee7-74be-460b-b53a-3bd53caaef11

    You don’t seem to have tumbled to the fact that the last thing the EU needs is an independent and successful trading nation 22 miles from its western border. It is never going to be realistic over this matter. It is doing all it can to **** the UK over.

    Keep cheering the EU, even if it’s to your own detriment. It’s rather like
    cheering for the Axis in WWII.

    If the Wehrmacht had arrived at the Channel Ports on chav-bikes, Mad
    mason would have been arguing that we should welcome them.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Thu May 18 22:09:59 2023
    On 18/05/2023 08:31 pm, Spike wrote:

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com>...

    ...trying to pretend not to answer Spike, said:

    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:55:20 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    QUOTE: They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from >>> August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner
    air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign >>> for clean air. ENDS

    They will have to hope that last year's all time record is not passed.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwaYKq0WAAQ86hp?format=jpg&name=medium

    It could be worse though.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwa3vCiaMAgzl-D?format=jpg&name=medium

    That’s in Pasadena, California!

    [Hint: it’s a lot nearer the Equator!]

    I know it well (one of the best places to stay when in the SoCal area).

    Warm even in January.

    Mason won't believe that.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 20 11:15:27 2023
    On 20/05/2023 09:56 am, swldx...@gmail.com...

    ...dishonestly pretending not to be responding to Spike (with whom Mad
    Mason cannot compete intellectually) said...

    On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 10:54:04 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com...

    ...dishonestly pretending not to be responding to Spike (with whom Mad
    Mason cannot compete intellectually) said...

    On Friday, May 19, 2023 at 6:38:01 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com...

    ...dishonestly pretending not to be responding to Spike (with whom Mad
    Mason cannot compete intellectually) said...

    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 8:40:38 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    QUOTE: “We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic. ENDS

    UKIP's Godfrey Bloom says that he was born in a 1950's "pea souper" and survived, so there is no harm caused by 2023 toxic air.

    Bloom is an advocate of "free speech" as you can see. :-)

    And chavs like you are not.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwd9iFQXoAEq4B9?format=jpg&name=medium

    There seem to be a theme here amongst the gammon swivels.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwe4QCIXsAMqCuS?format=jpg&name=medium

    The poor petals are very touchy to the truth.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwj0nC1XoAE3XKA?format=jpg&name=medium


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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat May 20 12:31:59 2023
    On 20/05/2023 11:31 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    Is everyone enjoying the benefits yet?

    You're the one on benefits, surely?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Mike Collins on Sun May 21 16:47:29 2023
    On 21/05/2023 12:30 pm, Mike Collins wrote:

    On Sunday, 21 May 2023 at 11:25:50 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Sunday, May 21, 2023 at 10:47:24 AM UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

    If all London residents switch to electric vehicles where will the power come from?
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwpSl9VWYAApYCZ?format=jpg&name=medium

    Are you claiming all London's current electrical needs are satisfied by wind power and there is enough excess to power every electric car in London when petrol and diesel cars are banned?

    Yes, he is.

    Unbelievable, but true.

    How is this energy stored at off peak times?
    Don't ask such awkward questions. You know they upset him.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Mike Collins on Sun May 21 16:45:50 2023
    On 21/05/2023 10:47 am, Mike Collins wrote:
    On Friday, 12 May 2023 at 16:57:36 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

    They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air.

    Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

    “We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].”

    The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering and continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are expected to take part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s boundary, which will become the Ulez boundary.

    Some of the doctors previously took part in a bike ride to Glasgow to mark the Cop26 summit in 2021.

    Dr Hayden referred to the coroner’s prevention of future deaths report issued following the inquest into the death of Ella Kissi-Debrah, and the advice from chief medical officer Professor Sir Chris Whitty for the NHS to stop creating air pollution
    and to educate itself and patients about its dangers.

    The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a neonatologist - have backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns that toxic air is placing a “huge strain” on
    hospital wards.

    Dr Hayden said: "Too often the health benefits are ignored. Air pollution crosses the placenta and causes harm before birth, the damage accumulates throughout childhood and adult life.

    “At a time when the NHS is already under immense pressure, air pollution is causing a huge strain on hospital wards across the country that could be prevented today.

    “The Ulez works, particularly for reducing NO2 (nitrogen dioxide), the main culprit in asthma. It is a small step in the right direction towards cleaner air and more safe active travel.

    “So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air."

    Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the cycle ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

    “Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists are too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

    “Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.”

    Mr Khan said: “It is fantastic that this amazing group will be raising awareness about the importance of expanding the Ulez London-wide.”

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

    If all London residents switch to electric vehicles where will the power come from?
    That's right, it will be generated elsewhere because they don't want a nuclear power station in their back yard.

    But that is exactly what they should be made to understand:

    "Generate all your own power within London (and dispose of all your own
    waste within London).

    "Don't expect others to put up with your pollution."

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Mon May 22 17:07:15 2023
  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Mike Collins on Tue May 23 11:25:59 2023
    On 22/05/2023 06:15 pm, Mike Collins wrote:
    On Sunday, 21 May 2023 at 16:47:01 UTC+1, JNugent wrote:
    On 21/05/2023 10:47 am, Mike Collins wrote:
    On Friday, 12 May 2023 at 16:57:36 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    Doctors will embark on a three-day bike ride around the Greater London boundary on Saturday to “celebrate” the imminent expansion of the ultra-low emission zone.

    They say Sadiq Khan’s Ulez expansion, across all 33 boroughs from August 29, was a “small step in the right direction towards cleaner air”. They called on all healthcare workers in the capital to campaign for clean air.

    Dr Mark Hayden, a London paediatrician and the cycle ride’s organiser, told the Standard: “For me, I struggle now to think of a disease that is not exacerbated or made worse by pollution.

    “We felt it was a good way for us, as healthcare providers, to speak up for the truth: that polluted air is highly toxic, causes the NHS a lot of harm and is costing the NHS a lot of money [to treat].”

    The 155-mile “Ride for their Lives” will start tomorrow in Havering and continue on Sunday and Monday. Up to a dozen medics are expected to take part. The aim is for the route to follow the capital’s boundary, which will become the Ulez
    boundary.

    Some of the doctors previously took part in a bike ride to Glasgow to mark the Cop26 summit in 2021.

    Dr Hayden referred to the coroner’s prevention of future deaths report issued following the inquest into the death of Ella Kissi-Debrah, and the advice from chief medical officer Professor Sir Chris Whitty for the NHS to stop creating air
    pollution and to educate itself and patients about its dangers.

    The cyclists - GPs, paediatricians, junior doctors, an emergency medicine doctor, a physiotherapist, an anaesthetist and a neonatologist - have backed the “clean air wins” campaign which warns that toxic air is placing a “huge strain” on
    hospital wards.

    Dr Hayden said: "Too often the health benefits are ignored. Air pollution crosses the placenta and causes harm before birth, the damage accumulates throughout childhood and adult life.

    “At a time when the NHS is already under immense pressure, air pollution is causing a huge strain on hospital wards across the country that could be prevented today.

    “The Ulez works, particularly for reducing NO2 (nitrogen dioxide), the main culprit in asthma. It is a small step in the right direction towards cleaner air and more safe active travel.

    “So we’re cycling to celebrate this expansion, and we call on all healthcare workers across London to speak up for safe air."

    Dr Anna Moore, a respiratory doctor from London who is joining the cycle ride, said: “There is no organ in the body which is not harmed by air pollution.

    “Our health service is under extraordinary pressure; waiting lists are too long, emergency services are overwhelmed.

    “Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.”

    Mr Khan said: “It is fantastic that this amazing group will be raising awareness about the importance of expanding the Ulez London-wide.”

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/doctors-ulez-expansion-bike-ride-greater-london-boundary-b1080733.html

    If all London residents switch to electric vehicles where will the power come from?
    That's right, it will be generated elsewhere because they don't want a nuclear power station in their back yard.
    But that is exactly what they should be made to understand:

    "Generate all your own power within London (and dispose of all your own
    waste within London).

    "Don't expect others to put up with your pollution."

    Rather than charging for driving in to London we should charge those who live in London £25 a day to leave.

    Now *there's* an idea!


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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed May 31 15:56:28 2023
    On 12/05/2023 07:39 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    QUOTE: > “Cleaning up the air we all breathe would prevent or reduce so much illness - from diabetes to cardiovascular disease, strokes to dementia, asthma to COPD. Imagine the positive impact on our NHS if we did.” ENDS
    COPD?
    Isn't that the nutcase new unelected trading bloc posing as a replacement for the EU?

    "Benefit" of 0.04% return after 15 years to replace the 4.0% loss NOW caused by leaving the biggest trading bloc on the planet 23 miles away with one 12000 miles away?

    IDIOTS.

    Chav-cyclists?

    Agreed.

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