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  • Teen charged over Ben Derbyshire bike-gang confrontation

    From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 17 23:10:09 2023
    Police in east London have charged a teenage boy following a confrontation between past RIBA president Ben Derbyshire and a gang of moped-riding bike thieves.

    Derbyshire, who is chair of architecture practice HTA Design, shared dramatic images of the incident in which he fought off assailants using an angle-grinder in an attempt to steal his Brompton bike from outside a London Fields café on Friday morning.

    The footage was filmed by onlookers and identified registration numbers of motorbikes being used by the gang, who struck while Derbyshire was in the El Ganso café with his son and daughter shortly before 11am.

    Hackney Police announced on social media yesterday afternoon that a 16-year-old boy had been charged with attempted robbery, robbery and driving whilst disqualified in connection with the incident.

    Police said that two other people had been released on bail. Earlier in the day Hackney Police had said three individuals – two juveniles and an adult – had been arrested in connection with the attempted robbery of a Brompton pedal bike on Broadway
    Market and the theft of two motorbikes on 12 May.

    Derbyshire was inundated with messages of support after he put footage of his tussle with the gang on Twitter on Friday.

    He said the incident had been “depressing” but had left him with two important lessons: make lots of noise and take loads of pictures in extreme situations; and that he should revert to using his “tatty” older bike rather than the £2,500
    Brompton.

    https://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/teen-charged-over-ben-derbyshire-bike-gang-confrontation/5123232.article

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 18 01:41:07 2023
    QUOTE: Police in east London have charged a teenage boy following a confrontation between past RIBA president Ben Derbyshire and a gang of moped-riding bike thieves. ENDS

    These thugs were identified very quickly due the ubiquity of CCTV - bloody idiots.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 08:16:14 2023
    The moral of this tale seems to be that you can have a showy bicycle but
    you can’t go just anywhere on it.

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Police in east London have charged a teenage boy following a
    confrontation between past RIBA president Ben Derbyshire and a gang of moped-riding bike thieves.

    […]

    https://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/teen-charged-over-ben-derbyshire-bike-gang-confrontation/5123232.article


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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Thu May 18 11:48:15 2023
    On 18/05/2023 09:16 am, Spike wrote:

    The moral of this tale seems to be that you can have a showy bicycle but
    you can’t go just anywhere on it.

    Well, not in "certain parts" of London.

    It's the same with watches and mobile phones.

    But whereas there is a ready fencing market for things like that, stolen chav-bikes can only sold to other chav-cyclists who are prepared to buy expensive chav-bikes which have fallen off the back of a lorry. They
    can't pretend that such bargains just "happen".


    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Police in east London have charged a teenage boy following a
    confrontation between past RIBA president Ben Derbyshire and a gang of
    moped-riding bike thieves.

    […]

    https://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/teen-charged-over-ben-derbyshire-bike-gang-confrontation/5123232.article

    PS: Wouldn't the police usually class deployment of an angle-grinder as
    a weapon as use of a deadly weapon?

    Would it have been alright if the chav-cyclist had pulled out a sword,
    or a machete?

    Even when quite rightly protecting one's property, there has to be a proportionate response.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 18 03:51:26 2023
    QUOTE: The footage was filmed by onlookers and identified registration numbers of motorbikes being used by the gang. ENDS

    Anyone spot the rookie mistake here?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu May 18 11:59:46 2023
    On 18/05/2023 11:48 am, JNugent wrote:
    On 18/05/2023 09:16 am, Spike wrote:

    The moral of this tale seems to be that you can have a showy bicycle but
    you can’t go just anywhere on it.

    Well, not in "certain parts" of London.

    It's the same with watches and mobile phones.

    But whereas there is a ready fencing market for things like that, stolen chav-bikes can only sold to other chav-cyclists who are prepared to buy expensive chav-bikes which have fallen off the back of a lorry. They
    can't pretend that such bargains just "happen".


    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Police in east London have charged a teenage boy following a
    confrontation between past RIBA president Ben Derbyshire and a gang of
    moped-riding bike thieves.

    […]

    https://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/teen-charged-over-ben-derbyshire-bike-gang-confrontation/5123232.article


    PS: Wouldn't the police usually class deployment of an angle-grinder as
    a weapon as use of a deadly weapon?

    ERRATUM:

    There should have been a hyphen after first iteration [look it up,
    Mason] of the word "weapon".

    Apologies.

    Would it have been alright if the chav-cyclist had pulled out a sword,
    or a machete?

    Even when quite rightly protecting one's property, there has to be a proportionate response.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 12:00:30 2023
    On 18/05/2023 11:51 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    QUOTE: The footage was filmed by onlookers and identified registration numbers of motorbikes being used by the gang. ENDS

    Anyone spot the rookie mistake here?

    There's no film in a mobile phone?

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 18 05:44:22 2023
    QUOTE: Derbyshire was inundated with messages of support after he put footage of his tussle with the gang on Twitter on Friday. ENDS



    Police make three arrests after former RIBA president fends off robbery attempt

    Police in east London have charged a teenage boy following a confrontation between past RIBA president Ben Derbyshire and a gang of moped-riding bike thieves.

    Derbyshire, who is chair of architecture practice HTA Design, shared dramatic images of the incident in which he fought off assailants using an angle-grinder in an attempt to steal his Brompton bike from outside a London Fields café on Friday morning.

    The footage was filmed by onlookers and identified registration numbers of motorbikes being used by the gang, who struck while Derbyshire was in the El Ganso café with his son and daughter shortly before 11am.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 12:37:03 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    QUOTE: The footage was filmed by onlookers and identified registration numbers of motorbikes being used by the gang. ENDS

    Anyone spot the rookie mistake here?

    You mean this one?

    “These thugs were identified very quickly due the ubiquity of CCTV - bloody idiots”

    (Posted by Simon Mason at 0918 today)

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 12:54:56 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    QUOTE: Derbyshire was inundated with messages of support after he put
    footage of his tussle with the gang on Twitter on Friday. ENDS



    Police make three arrests after former RIBA president fends off robbery attempt

    Police in east London have charged a teenage boy following a
    confrontation between past RIBA president Ben Derbyshire and a gang of moped-riding bike thieves.

    Derbyshire, who is chair of architecture practice HTA Design, shared
    dramatic images of the incident in which he fought off assailants using
    an angle-grinder in an attempt to steal his Brompton bike from outside a London Fields café on Friday morning.

    The footage was filmed by onlookers and identified registration numbers
    of motorbikes being used by the gang

    So, not identified by CCTV as claimed by Simon Mason.

    who struck while Derbyshire was in the El Ganso café with his son and daughter shortly before 11am.


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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 05:58:51 2023
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:44:23 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Derbyshire was inundated with messages of support after he put footage of his tussle with the gang on Twitter on Friday. ENDS

    The UKIP goons were all wiped out last week.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwaY9guXwAENjql?format=jpg&name=900x900

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 13:05:13 2023
    Having got egg on his face over claiming that CCTV was used to identify a
    group trying to steal a bicycle, whereas it was video taken on witnesses
    mobile phones, Simon Mason moves in full deflection mode:

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:44:23 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Derbyshire was inundated with messages of support after he put
    footage of his tussle with the gang on Twitter on Friday. ENDS

    The UKIP goons were all wiped out last week.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwaY9guXwAENjql?format=jpg&name=900x900






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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 06:08:31 2023
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:58:52 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:44:23 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Derbyshire was inundated with messages of support after he put footage of his tussle with the gang on Twitter on Friday. ENDS
    The UKIP goons were all wiped out last week.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwaY9guXwAENjql?format=jpg&name=900x900

    "Reform" got zero seats as well.
    Bad news for the NAZIs.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 13:16:43 2023
    Now in a bid to deflect attention away from his attempts at deflecting attention away from his CCTV blunder, Simon Mason invokes the Nazis:

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:58:52 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:44:23 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote: >>> QUOTE: Derbyshire was inundated with messages of support after he put
    footage of his tussle with the gang on Twitter on Friday. ENDS
    The UKIP goons were all wiped out last week.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwaY9guXwAENjql?format=jpg&name=900x900

    "Reform" got zero seats as well.
    Bad news for the NAZIs.




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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 15:50:16 2023
    On 18/05/2023 01:44 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    QUOTE: Derbyshire was inundated with messages of support after he put footage of his tussle with the gang on Twitter on Friday. ENDS

    Police make three arrests after former RIBA president fends off robbery attempt
    Police in east London have charged a teenage boy following a confrontation between past RIBA president Ben Derbyshire and a gang of moped-riding chav-bike thieves.
    Derbyshire, who is chair of architecture practice HTA Design, shared dramatic images of the incident in which he fought off assailants using an [offensive weapon] in an attempt to steal his Brompton chav-bike from outside a London Fields café on
    Friday morning.
    The footage was filmed by onlookers and identified registration numbers of motorbikes being used by the gang, who struck while Derbyshire was in the El Ganso café with his son and daughter shortly before 11am.


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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 08:19:42 2023
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:08:33 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:58:52 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:44:23 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Derbyshire was inundated with messages of support after he put footage of his tussle with the gang on Twitter on Friday. ENDS
    The UKIP goons were all wiped out last week.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwaY9guXwAENjql?format=jpg&name=900x900
    "Reform" got zero seats as well.
    Bad news for the NAZIs.

    How many seats did these morons get?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwa5FIwacAABlMS?format=jpg&name=medium

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 19:17:23 2023
    Still operating in full deflection mode in order to cover the fact that he doesn’t read what he posts (the youths he claimed were caught on CCTV when
    in reality they were videod by witnesses, Simon Mason now brings you… the National Front…🙄

    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 2:08:33 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:58:52 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:44:23 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> QUOTE: Derbyshire was inundated with messages of support after he put
    footage of his tussle with the gang on Twitter on Friday. ENDS
    The UKIP goons were all wiped out last week.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwaY9guXwAENjql?format=jpg&name=900x900
    "Reform" got zero seats as well.
    Bad news for the NAZIs.

    How many seats did these morons get?

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwa5FIwacAABlMS?format=jpg&name=medium




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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 18 12:31:42 2023
    Barking mad moron is totally wrong yet again.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fwby2c9XwAE_TUz?format=jpg&name=medium

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