• Police warn drivers after cyclist is killed by drug driver

    From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 18 08:23:51 2023
    POLICE warn motorists after drug driver is convicted of causing death by careless driving.

    Joshua Julian, aged 29, of Skinner Drive, Wokingham, was found guilty yesterday, May 17, by a majority jury verdict of the offence following a trial lasting six days at Reading Crown Court.

    Julian was acquitted of causing death of Deliveroo driver by dangerous driving.

    The force say it hopes to send a "strong message" that it is "simply unacceptable to smoke cannabis and then get behind the wheel of a car."
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    At about 7.15pm on June 10 2020, the victim, 35-year-old Tomasz Krohne was working for a food delivery company when he was cycling down Alexandra Road, Reading towards Addington Road.

    CCTV cameras close to the junction with Alexandra Road caught Julian driving at approximately 44mph in a 20mph zone.

    As Mr Krohne cycled across the junction, Julian’s vehicle collided with Mr Krohne.

    Tragically, despite medical efforts by the public and emergency services, Mr Krohne died at the scene.

    Julian passed a breath test for alcohol, but tested positive for cannabis and was arrested.

    Investigating officer detective constable Joy Jarvis, of the Serious Collision Investigation Unit, said: “It has been a long journey for all parties involved and we are satisfied that Joshua Julian has been convicted of causing death by careless
    driving whilst over the specific limit of drugs

    “We hope that this outcome sends a strong message to drivers. It is simply unacceptable to smoke cannabis and then get behind the wheel of a car.

    “As has been demonstrated in this tragic case, taking drugs and driving can have devastating consequences.

    “I hope that this conviction will bring some closure to Tomasz Krohne’s family and friends, and our thoughts remain with them.”

    Julian has been released on bail to return to Reading Crown Court for sentencing on June 30.

    https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/23531970.reading-police-warn-drivers-cyclist-killed-drug-driver/

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  • From Mike Collins@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Thu May 18 10:04:55 2023
    On Thursday, 18 May 2023 at 16:23:53 UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    POLICE warn motorists after drug driver is convicted of causing death by careless driving.

    Joshua Julian, aged 29, of Skinner Drive, Wokingham, was found guilty yesterday, May 17, by a majority jury verdict of the offence following a trial lasting six days at Reading Crown Court.

    Julian was acquitted of causing death of Deliveroo driver by dangerous driving.

    The force say it hopes to send a "strong message" that it is "simply unacceptable to smoke cannabis and then get behind the wheel of a car."
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    At about 7.15pm on June 10 2020, the victim, 35-year-old Tomasz Krohne was working for a food delivery company when he was cycling down Alexandra Road, Reading towards Addington Road.

    CCTV cameras close to the junction with Alexandra Road caught Julian driving at approximately 44mph in a 20mph zone.

    As Mr Krohne cycled across the junction, Julian’s vehicle collided with Mr Krohne.

    Tragically, despite medical efforts by the public and emergency services, Mr Krohne died at the scene.

    Julian passed a breath test for alcohol, but tested positive for cannabis and was arrested.

    Investigating officer detective constable Joy Jarvis, of the Serious Collision Investigation Unit, said: “It has been a long journey for all parties involved and we are satisfied that Joshua Julian has been convicted of causing death by careless
    driving whilst over the specific limit of drugs

    “We hope that this outcome sends a strong message to drivers. It is simply unacceptable to smoke cannabis and then get behind the wheel of a car.

    “As has been demonstrated in this tragic case, taking drugs and driving can have devastating consequences.

    “I hope that this conviction will bring some closure to Tomasz Krohne’s family and friends, and our thoughts remain with them.”

    Julian has been released on bail to return to Reading Crown Court for sentencing on June 30.

    https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/23531970.reading-police-warn-drivers-cyclist-killed-drug-driver/

    All evidence shows if recreational cannabis can be bought by adults from licensed dispensaries for home use both drug and drink driving casualties plummet.

    Of course this will never happen because most MP's are stoners and not all of the weed seized by Police makes it way into evidence.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Sat May 20 12:02:56 2023
    On 18/05/2023 04:23 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    POLICE warn motorists after drug driver is convicted of causing death by careless driving.
    Joshua Julian, aged 29, of Skinner Drive, Wokingham, was found guilty yesterday, May 17, by a majority jury verdict of the offence following a trial lasting six days at Reading Crown Court.
    Julian was acquitted of causing death of Deliveroo driver by dangerous driving.
    The force say it hopes to send a "strong message" that it is "simply unacceptable to smoke cannabis and then get behind the wheel of a car."

    Every word after "cannabis" is otiose [look it up, Mason].

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    At about 7.15pm on June 10 2020, the victim, 35-year-old Tomasz Krohne was working for a food delivery company when he was cycling down Alexandra Road, Reading towards Addington Road.
    CCTV cameras close to the junction with Alexandra Road caught Julian driving at approximately 44mph in a 20mph zone.
    As Mr Krohne cycled across the junction, Julian’s vehicle collided with Mr Krohne.
    Tragically, despite medical efforts by the public and emergency services, Mr Krohne died at the scene.
    Julian passed a breath test for alcohol, but tested positive for cannabis and was arrested.
    Investigating officer detective constable Joy Jarvis, of the Serious Collision Investigation Unit, said: “It has been a long journey for all parties involved and we are satisfied that Joshua Julian has been convicted of causing death by careless
    driving whilst over the specific limit of drugs

    It's absolutely fair enough that he has been convicted on the drugs offence.

    Was there any actual evidence that he drove carelessly or is that some assumption on the part of the court because of the drugs?

    If it is the second, it ought to be spelled out, wouldn't you agree?

    After all, "pour encourager les autres", etc.

    [Dear me - a four syllable French word. Mason will need two dictionaries.]

    “We hope that this outcome sends a strong message to drivers. It is simply unacceptable to smoke cannabis

    Shoulda been a full-stop there.

    and then get behind the wheel of a car.

    I can see why they said it, but it could have the effect of making chavs (cyclists, that sort of person) "think" that it's alright to imbibe
    illegal drugs and then ride a fairy-cycle. Or even that it's alright to
    smoke cannabis in a non-transport situation, when as we all know, it isn't.

    “As has been demonstrated in this tragic case, taking drugs and driving can have devastating consequences.
    “I hope that this conviction will bring some closure to Tomasz Krohne’s family and friends, and our thoughts remain with them.”
    Julian has been released on bail to return to Reading Crown Court for sentencing on June 30.

    https://www.readingchronicle.co.uk/news/23531970.reading-police-warn-drivers-cyclist-killed-drug-driver/


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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Mike Collins on Sat May 20 04:07:28 2023
    On Thursday, 18 May 2023 at 18:04:57 UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

    All evidence shows if recreational cannabis can be bought by adults from licensed dispensaries for home use both drug and drink driving casualties plummet.

    Of course this will never happen because most MP's are stoners and not all of the weed seized by Police makes it way into evidence.

    What about this this stuff?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12103423/Inside-monkey-dust-epidemic-sweeping-Britain.html

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Sat May 20 13:28:40 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer2022@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 May 2023 at 18:04:57 UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

    All evidence shows if recreational cannabis can be bought by adults from
    licensed dispensaries for home use both drug and drink driving casualties plummet.

    Of course this will never happen because most MP's are stoners and not
    all of the weed seized by Police makes it way into evidence.

    What about this this stuff?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12103423/Inside-monkey-dust-epidemic-sweeping-Britain.html

    Are you asking for a supply?

    Sorry, can’t help you.

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    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Sat May 20 14:31:47 2023
    On 20/05/2023 02:28 pm, Spike wrote:
    Simon Mason <swldxer2022@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 May 2023 at 18:04:57 UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

    All evidence shows if recreational cannabis can be bought by adults from >>> licensed dispensaries for home use both drug and drink driving casualties plummet.

    Of course this will never happen because most MP's are stoners and not
    all of the weed seized by Police makes it way into evidence.

    What about this this stuff?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12103423/Inside-monkey-dust-epidemic-sweeping-Britain.html

    Are you asking for a supply?

    Sorry, can’t help you.

    Collins will know.

    [Just a suggestion.]

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Sat May 20 13:36:41 2023
    JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> wrote:
    On 20/05/2023 02:28 pm, Spike wrote:
    Simon Mason <swldxer2022@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 May 2023 at 18:04:57 UTC+1, Mike Collins wrote:

    All evidence shows if recreational cannabis can be bought by adults from >>>> licensed dispensaries for home use both drug and drink driving casualties plummet.

    Of course this will never happen because most MP's are stoners and not >>>> all of the weed seized by Police makes it way into evidence.

    What about this this stuff?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12103423/Inside-monkey-dust-epidemic-sweeping-Britain.html

    Are you asking for a supply?

    Sorry, can’t help you.

    Collins will know.

    [Just a suggestion.]

    LOL

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    Spike

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 20 08:29:59 2023
    Inside the monkey dust epidemic sweeping Britain: Drug zombies terrify shoppers in once-prosperous British city as new synthetic drug that has laid waste to US comes to our shores.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12103423/Inside-monkey-dust-epidemic-sweeping-Britain.html

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