• This 72 year old climate activist cycled more than 8,000km from Sweden

    From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 4 13:10:29 2023
    Hildebrandt biked from Sweden to Sharm El Sheikh to raise awareness and urge world leaders gathered at the conference to take concrete steps to stop climate change.

    She has pedalled thousands of miles from Sweden to Egypt's Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh to deliver a simple message: Stop climate change.

    The trip took 72-year-old activist Dorothee Hildebrandt and her pink e-bike — which she fondly calls Miss Piggy, after the temperamental character from The Muppet Show — more than four months.

    She crisscrossed Europe and the Middle East until she arrived in Sharm el-Sheikh, at the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula.

    Hildebrandt says her mission is to raise awareness and urge world leaders gathered at the annual UN climate conference known as COP27 to take concrete steps to stop climate change.

    Greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise and scientists say the amount of heat-trapping gases needs to be almost halved by 2030, to meet the temperature-limiting goals of the Paris climate accord of 2015.

    Since her arrival a week ago, Hildebrandt and her e-bike have become a fixture at the summit. From a friend's place where she is staying, some 15 kilometres from the conference venue, she bikes to the city centre every day, meeting other activists and
    attending events.

    “They really have to stop climate change,” Hildebrandt says of the world leaders.

    “Even if it is uncomfortable," it has to be done — for the sake of the future.

    “It was uncomfortable for me ... this long ride," she told The Associated Press. But she wanted to show that if there's a will, “you can do it," she said.

    Past climate talks have traditionally seen very large protests at the end of the first week of the two-week summit, often drawing thousands. This year has been mostly muted, with sporadic and small demonstrations during the first week.

    Activists have blamed the high cost of travel, accommodation and restrictions in the isolated Egyptian city for limiting numbers of demonstrators.

    The largest demonstration so far was on Saturday, a day after US President Joe Biden made his stop at the summit. Hundreds of protesters chanted, sang, and danced in an area not far from where the negotiations were taking place amid tight security.

    Born in the town of Kassel in central Germany, Hildebrandt says she got her first bicycle at the age of 10 and never stopped pedalling. In 1978 she moved with her husband to Sweden, where she worked cleaning houses and then trained in taking care of the
    elderly and people with disabilities.

    She retired more than a decade ago. Her activism and biking, which she documents on social media, are for her two grandchildren, she says. A sign on her bike reads, “Biking for Future and Peace.”

    In her hometown of Katrineholm, just north of Stockholm, the Swedish capital, she is part of “Grandmas for Future” group that focuses on raising climate change awareness.

    Hildebrandt says she also wants Western industrialized nations to pay for the destruction they have caused so far — an issue called loss and damage, about reparations from big polluters to impoverished countries that have been hurt the most.

    Unhappy with the results from the previous climate conference, COP26 in Glasgow, Scotland, she saw her chance in Sharm El Sheikh.

    https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/11/13/this-72-year-old-grandmother-cycled-more-than-8000km-from-sweden-to-egypt-for-cop27

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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Mon Jun 5 07:00:12 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hildebrandt biked from Sweden to Sharm El Sheikh to raise awareness and
    urge world leaders gathered at the conference to take concrete steps to
    stop climate change.

    She has pedalled thousands of miles from Sweden to Egypt's Red Sea resort
    of Sharm el-Sheikh to deliver a simple message: Stop climate change.

    The trip took 72-year-old activist Dorothee Hildebrandt and her pink
    e-bike — which she fondly calls Miss Piggy, after the temperamental character from The Muppet Show — more than four months.

    She crisscrossed Europe and the Middle East until she arrived in Sharm el-Sheikh, at the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula.

    Hildebrandt says her mission is to raise awareness and urge world leaders gathered at the annual UN climate conference known as COP27 to take
    concrete steps to stop climate change.

    Greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise and scientists say the amount
    of heat-trapping gases needs to be almost halved by 2030, to meet the temperature-limiting goals of the Paris climate accord of 2015.

    Since her arrival a week ago, Hildebrandt and her e-bike have become a fixture at the summit. From a friend's place where she is staying, some
    15 kilometres from the conference venue, she bikes to the city centre
    every day, meeting other activists and attending events.

    “They really have to stop climate change,” Hildebrandt says of the world leaders.

    “Even if it is uncomfortable," it has to be done — for the sake of the future.

    “It was uncomfortable for me ... this long ride," she told The Associated Press. But she wanted to show that if there's a will, “you can do it," she said.

    Past climate talks have traditionally seen very large protests at the end
    of the first week of the two-week summit, often drawing thousands. This
    year has been mostly muted, with sporadic and small demonstrations during the first week.

    Activists have blamed the high cost of travel, accommodation and
    restrictions in the isolated Egyptian city for limiting numbers of demonstrators.


    They prefer to go to places with ski slopes, swimming pools, etc accessible
    via airports - as has been shown in the past when the hypocrites are
    exposed. Most of them have a ‘carbon footprint’ larger than most families ever will.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Brian on Mon Jun 5 08:35:57 2023
    Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hildebrandt biked from Sweden to Sharm El Sheikh to raise awareness and
    urge world leaders gathered at the conference to take concrete steps to
    stop climate change.
    L
    Past climate talks have traditionally seen very large protests at the end
    of the first week of the two-week summit, often drawing thousands. This
    year has been mostly muted, with sporadic and small demonstrations during the first week.

    Activists have blamed the high cost of travel, accommodation and
    restrictions in the isolated Egyptian city for limiting numbers of demonstrators.


    They prefer to go to places with ski slopes, swimming pools, etc accessible via airports - as has been shown in the past when the hypocrites are
    exposed. Most of them have a ‘carbon footprint’ larger than most families ever will.

    Just look at how many chartered jets flew the hypocrite delegates to COP26, plus the $1m/week luxury yachts for the hypocrite uber-rich to stay in.

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    Spike

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Peter Keller on Mon Jun 5 10:49:51 2023
    Peter Keller <muzhmuzh@centrum.sk> wrote:
    On 5/06/23 08:10, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    Hildebrandt biked from Sweden to Sharm El Sheikh to raise awareness and
    urge world leaders gathered at the conference to take concrete steps to
    stop climate change.

    What steps?
    The only step which has a chance of stopping climate change is to remove
    80% of humans from this earth.

    I think the uber-rich want it nearer 95%, irrespective of whether or not
    humans have a hand climate variability.

    Note that a highly-disguised >20-year-long pause in rising temperatures is
    or will be soon coming to an end, and the liars that support ACC will have
    a field day with the resulting warming phase of the cycle.


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  • From Peter Keller@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Mon Jun 5 22:29:59 2023
    On 5/06/23 08:10, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    Hildebrandt biked from Sweden to Sharm El Sheikh to raise awareness and urge world leaders gathered at the conference to take concrete steps to stop climate change.


    What steps?
    The only step which has a chance of stopping climate change is to remove
    80% of humans from this earth.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Mon Jun 5 12:31:03 2023
    On 04/06/2023 09:10 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    Hildebrandt biked from Sweden to Sharm El Sheikh to raise awareness and urge world leaders gathered at the conference to take concrete steps to stop climate change.

    She has pedalled thousands of miles from Sweden to Egypt's Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh to deliver a simple message: Stop climate change.

    The trip took 72-year-old activist Dorothee Hildebrandt and her pink e-bike — which she fondly calls Miss Piggy, after the temperamental character from The Muppet Show — more than four months.

    She crisscrossed Europe and the Middle East until she arrived in Sharm el-Sheikh, at the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula.

    Hildebrandt says her mission is to raise awareness and urge world leaders gathered at the annual UN climate conference known as COP27 to take concrete steps to stop climate change.

    Greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise and scientists say the amount of heat-trapping gases needs to be almost halved by 2030, to meet the temperature-limiting goals of the Paris climate accord of 2015.

    Since her arrival a week ago, Hildebrandt and her e-bike have become a fixture at the summit. From a friend's place where she is staying, some 15 kilometres from the conference venue, she bikes to the city centre every day, meeting other activists and
    attending events.

    “They really have to stop climate change,” Hildebrandt says of the world leaders.

    “Even if it is uncomfortable," it has to be done — for the sake of the future.

    “It was uncomfortable for me ... this long ride," she told The Associated Press. But she wanted to show that if there's a will, “you can do it," she said.

    Past climate talks have traditionally seen very large protests at the end of the first week of the two-week summit, often drawing thousands. This year has been mostly muted, with sporadic and small demonstrations during the first week.

    Activists have blamed the high cost of travel, accommodation and restrictions in the isolated Egyptian city for limiting numbers of demonstrators.

    The largest demonstration so far was on Saturday, a day after US President Joe Biden made his stop at the summit. Hundreds of protesters chanted, sang, and danced in an area not far from where the negotiations were taking place amid tight security.

    Born in the town of Kassel in central Germany, Hildebrandt says she got her first bicycle at the age of 10 and never stopped pedalling. In 1978 she moved with her husband to Sweden, where she worked cleaning houses and then trained in taking care of
    the elderly and people with disabilities.

    And with qualifications like that, she is eminently fit to be commenting
    on matters of scientific gravity and importance.

    We've seen other janitorial workers doing the same thing.

    She retired more than a decade ago. Her activism and biking, which she documents on social media, are for her two grandchildren, she says. A sign on her bike reads, “Biking for Future and Peace.”

    In her hometown of Katrineholm, just north of Stockholm, the Swedish capital, she is part of “Grandmas for Future” group that focuses on raising climate change awareness.

    Hildebrandt says she also wants Western industrialized nations to pay for the destruction they have caused so far — an issue called loss and damage, about reparations from big polluters to impoverished countries that have been hurt the most.

    Unhappy with the results from the previous climate conference, COP26 in Glasgow, Scotland, she saw her chance in Sharm El Sheikh.

    https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/11/13/this-72-year-old-grandmother-cycled-more-than-8000km-from-sweden-to-egypt-for-cop27


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  • From Brian@21:1/5 to JNugent on Mon Jun 5 14:58:16 2023
    JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> wrote:
    On 04/06/2023 09:10 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    Hildebrandt biked from Sweden to Sharm El Sheikh to raise awareness and
    urge world leaders gathered at the conference to take concrete steps to
    stop climate change.

    She has pedalled thousands of miles from Sweden to Egypt's Red Sea
    resort of Sharm el-Sheikh to deliver a simple message: Stop climate change. >>
    The trip took 72-year-old activist Dorothee Hildebrandt and her pink
    e-bike — which she fondly calls Miss Piggy, after the temperamental
    character from The Muppet Show — more than four months.

    She crisscrossed Europe and the Middle East until she arrived in Sharm
    el-Sheikh, at the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula.

    Hildebrandt says her mission is to raise awareness and urge world
    leaders gathered at the annual UN climate conference known as COP27 to
    take concrete steps to stop climate change.

    Greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise and scientists say the amount
    of heat-trapping gases needs to be almost halved by 2030, to meet the
    temperature-limiting goals of the Paris climate accord of 2015.

    Since her arrival a week ago, Hildebrandt and her e-bike have become a
    fixture at the summit. From a friend's place where she is staying, some
    15 kilometres from the conference venue, she bikes to the city centre
    every day, meeting other activists and attending events.

    “They really have to stop climate change,” Hildebrandt says of the world leaders.

    “Even if it is uncomfortable," it has to be done — for the sake of the future.

    “It was uncomfortable for me ... this long ride," she told The
    Associated Press. But she wanted to show that if there's a will, “you
    can do it," she said.

    Past climate talks have traditionally seen very large protests at the
    end of the first week of the two-week summit, often drawing thousands.
    This year has been mostly muted, with sporadic and small demonstrations
    during the first week.

    Activists have blamed the high cost of travel, accommodation and
    restrictions in the isolated Egyptian city for limiting numbers of demonstrators.

    The largest demonstration so far was on Saturday, a day after US
    President Joe Biden made his stop at the summit. Hundreds of protesters
    chanted, sang, and danced in an area not far from where the negotiations
    were taking place amid tight security.

    Born in the town of Kassel in central Germany, Hildebrandt says she got
    her first bicycle at the age of 10 and never stopped pedalling. In 1978
    she moved with her husband to Sweden, where she worked cleaning houses
    and then trained in taking care of the elderly and people with disabilities.

    And with qualifications like that, she is eminently fit to be commenting
    on matters of scientific gravity and importance.

    We've seen other janitorial workers doing the same thing.


    It is remarkable how often we see people who are poorly qualified speaking
    as if they are experts.

    Attenborough’s qualifications are, shall we say, hardly impressive.
    Packham is the same.

    Compare them to David Bellamy - who was far better qualified - but spoke
    out against global warming and was cancelled by the BBC.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Brian on Mon Jun 5 15:25:18 2023
    Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
    JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> wrote:
    On 04/06/2023 09:10 pm, swldx...@gmail.com cut-and-pasted:

    Born in the town of Kassel in central Germany, Hildebrandt says she got
    her first bicycle at the age of 10 and never stopped pedalling. In 1978
    she moved with her husband to Sweden, where she worked cleaning houses
    and then trained in taking care of the elderly and people with disabilities.

    And with qualifications like that, she is eminently fit to be commenting
    on matters of scientific gravity and importance.

    We've seen other janitorial workers doing the same thing.

    It is remarkable how often we see people who are poorly qualified speaking
    as if they are experts.

    Attenborough’s qualifications are, shall we say, hardly impressive.

    Packham is the same.

    Compare them to David Bellamy - who was far better qualified - but spoke
    out against global warming and was cancelled by the BBC.

    WHS

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    Spike

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 5 12:51:56 2023
    QUOTE: Hildebrandt says she also wants Western industrialized nations to pay for the destruction they have caused so far — an issue called loss and damage, about reparations from big polluters to impoverished countries that have been hurt the most.
    ENDS

    So long as they don't come for my BP pension and shares!

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 00:08:04 2023
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 8:51:57 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Hildebrandt says she also wants Western industrialized nations to pay for the destruction they have caused so far — an issue called loss and damage, about reparations from big polluters to impoverished countries that have been hurt the most.
    ENDS

    So long as they don't come for my BP pension and shares!

    Still well below the £6.22 I got just before the GoM disaster in 2010.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 06:59:27 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: Hildebrandt says she also wants Western industrialized nations to
    pay for the destruction they have caused so far — an issue called loss
    and damage, about reparations from big polluters to impoverished
    countries that have been hurt the most. ENDS

    So long as they don't come for my BP pension and shares!

    The Labour Party will do that for them.


    --
    Spike

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 08:20:48 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 8:51:57 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Hildebrandt says she also wants Western industrialized nations to
    pay for the destruction they have caused so far — an issue called loss
    and damage, about reparations from big polluters to impoverished
    countries that have been hurt the most. ENDS

    So long as they don't come for my BP pension and shares!

    Still well below the £6.22 I got just before the GoM disaster in 2010.

    When Labour start raiding your savings in order to fund their dreadful accelerated net-zero ‘renewables’ programme, look forward to your shares plunging to rock bottom.

    Well, someone has to pay for it, and Labour governments’ major
    characteristic is to run out of other people’s money in pursuing its unrealistic goals.

    --
    Spike

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 04:10:35 2023
    On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 8:08:05 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 8:51:57 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Hildebrandt says she also wants Western industrialized nations to pay for the destruction they have caused so far — an issue called loss and damage, about reparations from big polluters to impoverished countries that have been hurt the most.
    ENDS

    So long as they don't come for my BP pension and shares!
    Still well below the £6.22 I got just before the GoM disaster in 2010.

    Took a £20000 lump sum around the Baltic states on a long holiday, which was ruined by CNN showing oil gushing into the sea for weeks on end.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 12:39:10 2023
    On 05/06/2023 08:51 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    QUOTE: Hildebrandt says she also wants Western industrialized nations to pay for the destruction they have caused so far — an issue called loss and damage, about reparations from big polluters to impoverished countries that have been hurt the most.
    ENDS

    So long as they don't come for my BP pension and shares!

    Care-home assistants with janitorial experience are world-renowned as
    experts on the history and future of International Economics, aren't they?

    Janitorial workers seem to suffer from all sorts of delusions.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 12:40:59 2023
    On 06/06/2023 08:08 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 8:51:57 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Hildebrandt says she also wants Western industrialized nations to pay for the destruction they have caused so far — an issue called loss and damage, about reparations from big polluters to impoverished countries that have been hurt the most.
    ENDS

    So long as they don't come for my BP pension and shares!

    Still well below the £6.22 I got just before the GoM disaster in 2010.

    A week?

    Or an hour?

    Even per hour, that was low pay. But for some low-skilled jobs, of
    course, low pay is endemic. And probably correct.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 12:41:57 2023
    On 06/06/2023 12:10 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 8:08:05 AM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 8:51:57 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Hildebrandt says she also wants Western industrialized nations to pay for the destruction they have caused so far — an issue called loss and damage, about reparations from big polluters to impoverished countries that have been hurt the most.
    ENDS

    So long as they don't come for my BP pension and shares!
    Still well below the £6.22 I got just before the GoM disaster in 2010.

    Took a £20000 lump sum around the Baltic states on a long holiday, which was ruined by CNN showing oil gushing into the sea for weeks on end.

    Word salad?

    Or a Beat The Clock puzzle?

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 6 05:35:05 2023
    QUOTE: Greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise and scientists say the amount of heat-trapping gases needs to be almost halved by 2030, to meet the temperature-limiting goals of the Paris climate accord of 2015. ENDS

    The swivels now hail the ex-plant wibbler, David Bellamy, as a climate "expert" despite him being totally deluded and wrong on the subject.

    https://www.desmog.com/2009/03/30/david-bellamy-wrong-climate-change-science/

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 13:30:30 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: Greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise and scientists say the amount of heat-trapping gases needs to be almost halved by 2030, to meet
    the temperature-limiting goals of the Paris climate accord of 2015. ENDS

    The swivels now hail the ex-plant wibbler, David Bellamy, as a climate "expert" despite him being totally deluded and wrong on the subject.

    https://www.desmog.com/2009/03/30/david-bellamy-wrong-climate-change-science/

    What they aren’t telling you is that at the start of the Holocene (the current interglacial period) it was at least 2.5 degrees warmer than now.
    The real questions are: why is the planet so cool, and why do we want to
    stop it reaching its natural temperature?

    --
    Spike

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 13:20:54 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: Greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise and scientists say the amount of heat-trapping gases needs to be almost halved by 2030, to meet
    the temperature-limiting goals of the Paris climate accord of 2015. ENDS

    The swivels now hail the ex-plant wibbler, David Bellamy, as a climate "expert" despite him being totally deluded and wrong on the subject.

    https://www.desmog.com/2009/03/30/david-bellamy-wrong-climate-change-science/

    QUOTE

    The so-called “hockey stick” graph has been recalculated several times using updated data and always shows the same thing: that the climate we are experiencing now is warmer that anything in recorded history.

    ENDQUOTE

    What they aren’t telling you is that you can feed whatever data you like
    into the model, and it results in a hockey-stick graph!

    --
    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 14:41:14 2023
    On 06/06/2023 01:35 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    QUOTE: Greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise and scientists say the amount of heat-trapping gases needs to be almost halved by 2030, to meet the temperature-limiting goals of the Paris climate accord of 2015. ENDS

    The swivels now hail the ex-plant wibbler, David Bellamy, as a climate "expert" despite him being totally deluded and wrong on the subject.

    https://www.desmog.com/2009/03/30/david-bellamy-wrong-climate-change-science/

    ...and Mad Mason has definitely NOT mentioned David Bellamy because
    Brian had mentioned him.

    Oh no.

    Heavens forfend.

    After all, Mad Mason never *sees* any of Brian's posts.

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 06:47:01 2023
    On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 1:35:07 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise and scientists say the amount of heat-trapping gases needs to be almost halved by 2030, to meet the temperature-limiting goals of the Paris climate accord of 2015. ENDS

    The swivels now hail the ex-plant wibbler, David Bellamy, as a climate "expert" despite him being totally deluded and wrong on the subject.

    https://www.desmog.com/2009/03/30/david-bellamy-wrong-climate-change-science/

    Follow the money as always:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fx8aM5kaEAU1jE-?format=jpg&name=900x900

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 15:32:02 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 1:35:07 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:
    QUOTE: Greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise and scientists say the
    amount of heat-trapping gases needs to be almost halved by 2030, to meet
    the temperature-limiting goals of the Paris climate accord of 2015. ENDS

    The swivels now hail the ex-plant wibbler, David Bellamy, as a climate
    "expert" despite him being totally deluded and wrong on the subject.

    https://www.desmog.com/2009/03/30/david-bellamy-wrong-climate-change-science/

    Follow the money as always:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fx8aM5kaEAU1jE-?format=jpg&name=900x900

    Moron. “90% of scientists” don’t work in the climate science area.

    --
    Spike

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 6 09:41:37 2023
    Of course the gammon think that NASA was lying about the Moon landings as well. -----------------------
    While Earth’s climate has changed throughout its history, the current warming is happening at a rate not seen in the past 10,000 years.

    According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), "Since systematic scientific assessments began in the 1970s, the influence of human activity on the warming of the climate system has evolved from theory to established fact."1

    Scientific information taken from natural sources (such as ice cores, rocks, and tree rings) and from modern equipment (like satellites and instruments) all show the signs of a changing climate.

    From global temperature rise to melting ice sheets, the evidence of a warming planet abounds.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 17:38:10 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    Of course the gammon think that NASA was lying about the Moon landings as well.
    -----------------------
    While Earth’s climate has changed throughout its history, the current warming is happening at a rate not seen in the past 10,000 years.

    According to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC),
    "Since systematic scientific assessments began in the 1970s, the
    influence of human activity on the warming of the climate system has
    evolved from theory to established fact."

    You are aware that the connection between the two paragraphs quoted above
    is somewhat glossed over.

    Scientific information taken from natural sources (such as ice cores, rocks, and tree rings) and from modern equipment (like satellites and instruments) all show the signs of a changing climate.

    The Vostok ice cores show signs of a changing climate for the last 500,000 years: 20,000 years of warmth followed by 80,000 years of an ice-age.

    From global temperature rise to melting ice sheets, the evidence of a warming planet abounds.

    It’s what happens when ice ages end…

    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 6 13:31:11 2023
    Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and
    of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsibWVzc2FnZSI6IkJBaHBBL21HQWc9PSIsImV4cCI6bnVsbCwicHVyIjoiYmxvYl9pZCJ9fQ==--4812b9bf091c9336103c69f02f5c5b36bf982de5/
    eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsibWVzc2FnZSI6IkJBaDdCam9MWm05eWJXRjBPZ2wzWldKdyIsImV4cCI6bnVsbCwicHVyIjoidmFyaWF0aW9uIn19--308d105b858fde2aa7c2bd953e87f719e2dd73bb/CO2_graph.jpeg?content_type=image%2Fwebp&disposition=inline

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 22:07:22 2023
    swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with
    the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning
    of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

    So the effect of the Sun is far greater than the effect of human activity!

    We don’t need to control CO2, we need to circularise the Earth’s orbit!

    So why are we spending $trillions of farting about with CO2?

    Apart from making some people a shedload of money…


    https://climate.nasa.gov/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsibWVzc2FnZSI6IkJBaHBBL21HQWc9PSIsImV4cCI6bnVsbCwicHVyIjoiYmxvYl9pZCJ9fQ==--4812b9bf091c9336103c69f02f5c5b36bf982de5/
    eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsibWVzc2FnZSI6IkJBaDdCam9MWm05eWJXRjBPZ2wzWldKdyIsImV4cCI6bnVsbCwicHVyIjoidmFyaWF0aW9uIn19--308d105b858fde2aa7c2bd953e87f719e2dd73bb/CO2_graph.jpeg?content_type=image%2Fwebp&disposition=inline




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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to swldx...@gmail.com on Tue Jun 6 23:07:46 2023
    On 06/06/2023 09:31 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

    Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and
    of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

    Well, either that or it was those pesky Neanderthals driving those
    Range-Rovers of theirs.

    https://climate.nasa.gov/rails/active_storage/representations/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsibWVzc2FnZSI6IkJBaHBBL21HQWc9PSIsImV4cCI6bnVsbCwicHVyIjoiYmxvYl9pZCJ9fQ==--4812b9bf091c9336103c69f02f5c5b36bf982de5/
    eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsibWVzc2FnZSI6IkJBaDdCam9MWm05eWJXRjBPZ2wzWldKdyIsImV4cCI6bnVsbCwicHVyIjoidmFyaWF0aW9uIn19--308d105b858fde2aa7c2bd953e87f719e2dd73bb/CO2_graph.jpeg?content_type=image%2Fwebp&disposition=inline

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  • From swldxer1958@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 6 21:15:37 2023
    Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and
    of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

    The current warming trend is different because it is clearly the result of human activities since the mid-1800s, and is proceeding at a rate not seen over many recent millennia.1 It is undeniable that human activities have produced the atmospheric gases
    that have trapped more of the Sun’s energy in the Earth system. This extra energy has warmed the atmosphere, ocean, and land, and widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere, and biosphere have occurred.

    Earth-orbiting satellites and new technologies have helped scientists see the big picture, collecting many different types of information about our planet and its climate all over the world. These data, collected over many years, reveal the signs and
    patterns of a changing climate.

    Scientists demonstrated the heat-trapping nature of carbon dioxide and other gases in the mid-19th century.2 Many of the science instruments NASA uses to study our climate focus on how these gases affect the movement of infrared radiation through the
    atmosphere. From the measured impacts of increases in these gases, there is no question that increased greenhouse gas levels warm Earth in response.

    "Scientific evidence for warming of the climate system is unequivocal."

    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

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