A mum has spoken out after a cyclist hit their cab during the iconic Edinburgh Taxi Outing.

The 30-year-old was riding in the back of a black cab with her six-year-old autistic son during the charity day on June 13. But one commuter appeared less than keen to participate.

The annual outing has been running since 1947, where children with life-altering disabilities and terminal illnesses are ferried around in style as part of a day they will never forget.

Speaking to Edinburgh Live, the mum explained that it was their first time joining the special day and it meant a lot being the 75th anniversary. They were enjoying themselves in the back of the cab, her son with a customary water pistol with which to
target passersby in the spirit of the day. But one cyclist took umbrage.

The mum said: "Unfortunately, it’s not all sunshine and rainbows when it comes to the public. While travelling on the bridges, a cyclist was forced to come onto the pavement to let the taxis pass. In the name of fun, as the day is all about, she got a
little bit wet, she was furious and proceeded to hit the taxi and ram her bike into it.

"Two seconds later a disheveled angry man then hurled abuse at the taxi screaming and swearing that he was ‘wet for court’. Absolutely out of order, no consideration for the day out, the taxis and most importantly the children that are inside these
vehicles. It’s a bit of water on a blistering hot day, everyone would have been dried in a matter of a few minutes."

She added: "My child, in this occasion was ok, but it could have been extremely different. Luckily there was no damage to the taxi, again this could have been different.

"This is the driver's livelihood, income, and life. The driver remained happy and on his mission of fun! He was kind enough to say, ‘they may be going through a rough time, you just never know what people are going through’, which really emphasised
the people who put this day on for the children are so selfless.

"With this being said, these people are a minority. They don’t get in the way of us enjoying ourselves, the support from locals is truly outstanding and heartwarming to be a part of! A massive hats off to the ones who make this all a reality, families
are so grateful for you all."

On Tuesday, taxis lined up Edinburgh's roads, dressed up with bright balloons and ribbons flowing as kids threw sweets and used water pistols from the water.

The cars were tooting their horns to signal their arrival as they made their way from Edinburgh Zoo to Direlton.

Not everyone is a fan, however. Back in 2019, a private hire driver lay on the ground in protest before a police officer asked him to move.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/moment-edinburgh-cyclist-loses-splashed-27137013

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On 16/06/2023 04:47 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A mum has spoken out after a cyclist hit their cab during the iconic Edinburgh Taxi Outing.
The 30-year-old was riding in the back of a black cab with her six-year-old autistic son during the charity day on June 13. But one commuter appeared less than keen to participate.
The annual outing has been running since 1947, where children with life-altering disabilities and terminal illnesses are ferried around in style as part of a day they will never forget.

Many UK cities have a similar tradition, selflessly kept alive by
licenced cabmen.

Speaking to Edinburgh Live, the mum explained that it was their first time joining the special day and it meant a lot being the 75th anniversary. They were enjoying themselves in the back of the cab, her son with a customary water pistol with which to

target passersby in the spirit of the day. But one cyclist took umbrage.

The mum said: "Unfortunately, it’s not all sunshine and rainbows when it comes to the public. While travelling on the bridges, a cyclist was forced to come onto the pavement to let the taxis pass. In the name of fun, as the day is all about, she got

a little bit wet, she was furious and proceeded to hit the taxi and ram her bike into it.

Typical chav-cyclist behaviour. No sense of humour whatsoever and no
sense of occasion or respect for those children. Loses her temper with a playful disabled child... Diddums! Was her dignity breached for a few
seconds? Then she takes out her fit-of-pique revenge on a third party.

"Two seconds later a disheveled angry man then hurled abuse at the taxi screaming and swearing that he was ‘wet for court’.

Oh, that will never do. Answering a D&D and turning up looking like a
tramp. And wet to boot.

Absolutely out of order, no consideration for the day out, the taxis and most importantly the children that are inside these vehicles. It’s a bit of water on a blistering hot day, everyone would have been dried in a matter of a few minutes."
She added: "My child, in this occasion was ok, but it could have been extremely different. Luckily there was no damage to the taxi, again this could have been different.
"This is the driver's livelihood, income, and life. The driver remained happy and on his mission of fun! He was kind enough to say, ‘they may be going through a rough time, you just never know what people are going through’, which really emphasised

the people who put this day on for the children are so selfless.

Quite so.

What a shame the cyclist wasn't even a tenth as selfless.

"With this being said, these people are a minority. They don’t get in the way of us enjoying ourselves, the support from locals is truly outstanding and heartwarming to be a part of! A massive hats off to the ones who make this all a reality,

families are so grateful for you all."

And that is very reasonable and speaks volumes for the right way to see
this event.

On Tuesday, taxis lined up Edinburgh's roads, dressed up with bright balloons and ribbons flowing as kids threw sweets and used water pistols from the water.
The cars were tooting their horns to signal their arrival as they made their way from Edinburgh Zoo to Direlton.
Not everyone is a fan, however. Back in 2019, a private hire driver lay on the ground in protest before a police officer asked him to move.

They - and cyclists - are usually the villains of any piece.

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/moment-edinburgh-cyclist-loses-splashed-27137013

I see you have given up your tacit claims to have written these pieces.

About time too.

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QUOTE: On Tuesday, taxis lined up Edinburgh's roads, dressed up with bright balloons and ribbons flowing as kids threw sweets and used water pistols from the water. The cars were tooting their horns to signal their arrival as they made their way from
Edinburgh Zoo to Direlton. ENDS

Don't the cyclist haters say that such events trap them in their homes for several days?

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On 16/06/2023 06:01 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: On Tuesday, taxis lined up Edinburgh's roads, dressed up with bright balloons and ribbons flowing as kids threw sweets and used water pistols from the water. The cars were tooting their horns to signal their arrival as they made their way from

Edinburgh Zoo to Direlton. ENDS

Don't the cyclist haters say that such events trap them in their homes for several days?

No-one has ever said such a thing about a procession of thirty to fifty vehicles travelling along a road on a trip to the seaside. There are no
road closures; no-one whinges that they need barriers to keep other
humans away from them.

In short, no-one hates the annual taxi outing for sick and disabled
children.

Well, no-one apart from you and the dishevelled and angry pair. And that
merely confirms that no-one of any importance has any criticism to make
of this very worthy annual act of charity.

On th other hand, everyone hates chav-cyclists, as you well know.

Do you think you might be able to persuade a cohort of chavs to arrange
a seaside outing for sick and disabled children?

Go on... have a try... you might even be able to make a start on
rehabilitating you chav-cyclists.

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QUOTE: The cars were tooting their horns to signal their arrival as they made their way from Edinburgh Zoo to Direlton. ENDS

Misuse of the horn as well - some will have been stationary - another no no.

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QUOTE: customary water pistol with which to target passersby in the spirit of the day ENDS

So these hooligans have been assaulting innocent bystanders with their unwanted and unknown fluids for some time?
Not everyone appreciates your selfish behaviour - try a car meet next time.

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On Friday, 16 June 2023 at 19:34:38 UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: customary water pistol with which to target passersby in the spirit of the day ENDS

So these hooligans have been assaulting innocent bystanders with their unwanted and unknown fluids for some time?
Not everyone appreciates your selfish behaviour - try a car meet next time.

Tell you what, son. When you are old enough, you can fill your windscreen washer bottle with piss and then go around soaking people along with your mates laughing in the back seats. You know you want to.

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Cyclists, eh?

Spoiling things for others 24/7…

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A mum has spoken out after a cyclist hit their cab during the iconic Edinburgh Taxi Outing.

The 30-year-old was riding in the back of a black cab with her
six-year-old autistic son during the charity day on June 13. But one
commuter appeared less than keen to participate.

<snip>

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/moment-edinburgh-cyclist-loses-splashed-27137013

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Simon Mason <swldxer2022@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: customary water pistol with which to target passersby in the spirit of the day ENDS

So these hooligans have been assaulting innocent bystanders with their unwanted and unknown fluids for some time?

Not everyone appreciates your selfish behaviour - try a car meet next time.

Unbelievable…This was a charity run for disadvantaged children…and you’re complaining.

Bit of a wet blanket, aren’t you.

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On 16/06/2023 07:34 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: customary water pistol with which to target passersby in the spirit of the day ENDS

So these hooligans have been assaulting innocent bystanders [chavs] with their unwanted and unknown fluids for some time?
Not everyone appreciates your selfish behaviour - try a car meet next time.

Try and lose that overdeveloped sense of your own non-importance.

And perhaps grow a sense of humour.

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On 16/06/2023 08:04 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

On Friday, 16 June 2023 at 19:34:38 UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: customary water pistol with which to target passersby in the spirit of the day ENDS

So these hooligans have been assaulting innocent bystanders with their unwanted and unknown fluids for some time?
Not everyone appreciates your selfish behaviour - try a car meet next time.

Tell you what, son. When you are old enough, you can fill your windscreen washer bottle with piss and then go around soaking people along with your mates laughing in the back seats. You know you want to.

To whom are you responding?

Not yourself, obviously.

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On 16/06/2023 06:37 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: The cars were tooting their horns to signal their arrival as they made their way from Edinburgh Zoo to Direlton. ENDS

Misuse of the horn as well - some will have been stationary - another no no.

Misanthropic lunatic!

But we all knew that.

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Tell you what, son. When you are old enough, you can fill your windscreen washer bottle with piss and then go around soaking people along with your mates laughing in the back seats. You know you want to.

This is where it leads to. NOTE REFERENCE TO SCREEN WASH!

QUOTE: A road-rage driver has been jailed after being found guilty of deliberately swerving into a group of cyclists – including two children.

South Derbyshire Magistrates Court heard how John Rafferty “saw the red mist” because he was unable to get past the group of a dozen cyclists, which included two 12-year-old boys, as they were riding two abreast down a country road at Coton in the
Clay, near Tutbury in Staffordshire.

The 50-year-old repeatedly honked his horn at the cycling club, the CC Giro from Sutton Coldfield in the West Midlands, swerved into the group three times in an attempt to overtake them and deliberately sprayed his screen wash at them.

After the leader of the group confronted him about his behaviour he chased after him, hit his bike and knocked him off into a hedge during the incident on 26 July last year.

Prosecutor Peter Bettany told the court: "The defendant started to sound his horn for
periods, tried to pull past them and swerved into them on three occasions, deliberately squirting his screen wash as he did so and showering the cyclist.

"One of the lead riders rode past him and started to remonstrate through the window, before pulling in front of him. This seemed to annoy the defendant even more and he drove within inches of the lead rider eventually hitting his back tyre and sending
him off his bike and into the side of the road."

After this Rafferty and the group stopped at the scene until the police arrived where he was charged with dangerous driving, cycling news website Road.CC reported.

He later pleaded guilty to charges but accused the cyclists of “getting together” to make sure their statements matched to ensure the maximum prosecution before it came to court, the Derby Telegraph reported.

He was sentenced to 16 weeks in prison, handed him a 26-month road ban and ordered him to pay a £115 victim surcharge.

Sentencing him, District Judge Jonathan Taaffe said: "This involved you using your motor vehicle as a weapon against a vulnerable group of road users in what can be termed a road rage incident.

"Cyclists are vulnerable not because they don't know how to use the road but because they lack protection from impacts such as this. You firstly intimidated them because you wanted to get past them, sounding your horn continuously for 25 or 30 seconds.

"There were cyclists as young as 12 in that group and the way you drove would have caused them fear and anxiety. You attempted to overtake the group and swerved into them on three occasions and using your screen wash against them.

"Finally, when one of them rode past you to remonstrate you ran him off the road and into a hedge. This could have resulted in absolutely catastrophic and life-changing injuries for the cyclist involved."

Speaking outside the court, the unnamed man who was injured in the incident said: "I am in my 60s and I have ridden for more than 50 years, including leading cycling tour holidays in the UK and abroad, and I have never experienced road rage like this in
all of that time." ENDS

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Tell you what, son. When you are old enough, you can fill your
windscreen washer bottle with piss and then go around soaking people
along with your mates laughing in the back seats. You know you want to.

This is where it leads to. NOTE REFERENCE TO SCREEN WASH!

*Date of incident 26 July 2016*

QUOTE: A road-rage driver has been jailed after being found guilty of deliberately swerving into a group of cyclists – including two children.

South Derbyshire Magistrates Court heard how John Rafferty “saw the red mist” because he was unable to get past the group of a dozen cyclists, which included two 12-year-old boys, as they were riding two abreast down
a country road at Coton in the Clay, near Tutbury in Staffordshire.

The 50-year-old repeatedly honked his horn at the cycling club, the CC
Giro from Sutton Coldfield in the West Midlands, swerved into the group
three times in an attempt to overtake them and deliberately sprayed his screen wash at them.

After the leader of the group confronted him about his behaviour he
chased after him, hit his bike and knocked him off into a hedge during
the incident on 26 July last year.

Prosecutor Peter Bettany told the court: "The defendant started to sound his horn for
periods, tried to pull past them and swerved into them on three
occasions, deliberately squirting his screen wash as he did so and showering the cyclist.

"One of the lead riders rode past him and started to remonstrate through
the window, before pulling in front of him. This seemed to annoy the defendant even more and he drove within inches of the lead rider
eventually hitting his back tyre and sending him off his bike and into
the side of the road."

After this Rafferty and the group stopped at the scene until the police arrived where he was charged with dangerous driving, cycling news website Road.CC reported.

He later pleaded guilty to charges but accused the cyclists of “getting together” to make sure their statements matched to ensure the maximum prosecution before it came to court, the Derby Telegraph reported.

He was sentenced to 16 weeks in prison, handed him a 26-month road ban
and ordered him to pay a £115 victim surcharge.

Sentencing him, District Judge Jonathan Taaffe said: "This involved you
using your motor vehicle as a weapon against a vulnerable group of road
users in what can be termed a road rage incident.

"Cyclists are vulnerable not because they don't know how to use the road
but because they lack protection from impacts such as this. You firstly intimidated them because you wanted to get past them, sounding your horn continuously for 25 or 30 seconds.

"There were cyclists as young as 12 in that group and the way you drove
would have caused them fear and anxiety. You attempted to overtake the
group and swerved into them on three occasions and using your screen wash against them.

"Finally, when one of them rode past you to remonstrate you ran him off
the road and into a hedge. This could have resulted in absolutely catastrophic and life-changing injuries for the cyclist involved."

Speaking outside the court, the unnamed man who was injured in the
incident said: "I am in my 60s and I have ridden for more than 50 years, including leading cycling tour holidays in the UK and abroad, and I have never experienced road rage like this in all of that time." ENDS

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A POLICE car has been spotted soaking two cyclists and people are asking if they should be fined.

The video was uploaded to TikTok by user @nickdaw1 and shows a flooded London street.

It's shot using a smartphone from high up above the flooded road and starts by showing cars driving through the deep water.

The caption on the video reads; 'wait till the end,' and 'got them both.'

A few seconds in, a siren can be heard approaching the section of the road in shot and a police car comes into view.

At the same time, a couple of cyclists can be made out coming along the drenched road in the same direction.

As the police car roars past it hits a stretch of water and gives both cyclists a proper soaking.

The video ends with the police car speeding off up the road and you can hear shouting in the background - perhaps from the cyclists.

But people in the comments were quick to point out that the police driver could be fined for the act.

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is an offence to drive "without reasonable consideration for other persons."

According to the Crown Prosecution Service, this includes "driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed.

Typically, this will land you with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three points on your licence if you're caught by the police.

But if you're considered to be driving your motor in a manner that "amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness" then you can get a maximum level five fine, which is currently set at £5,000.

@cherryruthmoore said: "that is a £5000 fine! according to the new law!!!😳"

@adam.pearcy said: "£5000 fine according to the law… and it’d be worth every penny."

@Danielpumphrey said: "Hope they got a £5k fine! One rule for them, another for us."

While @al_1001 said: "9 points and a £5000 fine coming your way 😆"

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“…a siren can be heard approaching the section of the road in shot and a police car comes into view.”

The best get-out-of-jail-free card they could have held.

Can you imagine what @cherryruthmoore, @adam.pearcy, @Danielpumphrey, and @al_1001 might have to say if they’re trapped on the upper floors of a burning building, shouting and screaming on the phone, and the Fire Brigade
say “Sorry, duckie, we’re coming as fast as we can but the road’s wet and we don’t want to splash a cyclist”.

🙄


swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A POLICE car has been spotted soaking two cyclists and people are asking
if they should be fined.

The video was uploaded to TikTok by user @nickdaw1 and shows a flooded London street.

It's shot using a smartphone from high up above the flooded road and
starts by showing cars driving through the deep water.

The caption on the video reads; 'wait till the end,' and 'got them both.'

A few seconds in, a siren can be heard approaching the section of the
road in shot and a police car comes into view.

At the same time, a couple of cyclists can be made out coming along the drenched road in the same direction.

As the police car roars past it hits a stretch of water and gives both cyclists a proper soaking.

The video ends with the police car speeding off up the road and you can
hear shouting in the background - perhaps from the cyclists.

But people in the comments were quick to point out that the police driver could be fined for the act.

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is an offence to
drive "without reasonable consideration for other persons."

According to the Crown Prosecution Service, this includes "driving
through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed.

Typically, this will land you with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three points on your licence if you're caught by the police.

But if you're considered to be driving your motor in a manner that
"amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness" then you can get a maximum level five fine, which is currently set at £5,000.

@cherryruthmoore said: "that is a £5000 fine! according to the new law!!!😳"

@adam.pearcy said: "£5000 fine according to the law… and it’d be worth every penny."

@Danielpumphrey said: "Hope they got a £5k fine! One rule for them, another for us."

While @al_1001 said: "9 points and a £5000 fine coming your way 😆"

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Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is illegal to splash someone as it amounts to driving “without reasonable consideration for other persons”. Those found guilty of deliberately driving through puddles and splashing pedestrians will
likely be hit with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three penalty points if caught by police.

However, should motorists be deemed to be driving in a manner that “amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience, and aggressiveness” then the maximum punishment of a £5,000 fine could be levelled.

If drivers fail to pay the £100 fixed penalty or refuse the penalty notice they could also face the maximum £5,000 fine if the case is taken to court.

Pete Williams, RAC road safety spokesperson, called on motorists to show respect and care for other road users and pedestrians.

He said: “Anyone unfortunate enough to have suffered a drenching by an inconsiderate motorist splashing them when driving through a puddle would probably welcome a sizeable financial penalty for the driver. "Since 2013 careless driving can be dealt
with by a Fixed Penalty Notice with a £100 fine and three penalty points.

"If, however, they refuse [the notice] then they will face a magistrate who could impose a fine up to £5,000, although the maximum is very unlikely.”

The Met Office issued two yellow weather warnings for rain earlier this week, with both affecting parts of Wales and South West England.

It warned of persistent heavy rain, which could lead to floods, possible power cuts and the potential for some communities to be cut off. Spray and flooding can also lead to difficult driving conditions and some road closures in the affected areas.

Andy Moody, Director at GoShorty, warned drivers of the risk of receiving fines or penalty points on their licence for simple actions.

He said: “Getting 12 points on your driving licence in less than three years could get you disqualified from driving.

“On top of that, getting points on your licence will also result in the increase of your insurance policy, as your insurance provider will want to be informed about all your motoring convictions in the past three years (five in some cases).

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is illegal to splash someone as it amounts to driving “without reasonable consideration for other persons”. Those found guilty of deliberately driving through
puddles and splashing pedestrians will likely be hit with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three penalty points if caught by police.

However, should motorists be deemed to be driving in a manner that
“amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience, and aggressiveness” then the maximum punishment of a £5,000 fine could be levelled.

If drivers fail to pay the £100 fixed penalty or refuse the penalty
notice they could also face the maximum £5,000 fine if the case is taken to court.

Ah! So @cherryruthmoore, @adam.pearcy, @Danielpumphrey, and @al_1001, who
were screaming about a £5000 fine, had missed out a vital step in the
process.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Pete Williams, RAC road safety spokesperson, called on motorists to show respect and care for other road users and pedestrians.

Well, there’s no point in calling on cyclists to show respect and care for other road users and pedestrians, as Auriol Grey found out.

He said: “Anyone unfortunate enough to have suffered a drenching by an inconsiderate motorist splashing them when driving through a puddle would probably welcome a sizeable financial penalty for the driver. "Since 2013 careless driving can be dealt with by a Fixed Penalty Notice with a £100 fine and three penalty points.

"If, however, they refuse [the notice] then they will face a magistrate
who could impose a fine up to £5,000, although the maximum is very unlikely.”

The Met Office issued two yellow weather warnings for rain earlier this
week, with both affecting parts of Wales and South West England.

It warned of persistent heavy rain, which could lead to floods, possible power cuts and the potential for some communities to be cut off. Spray
and flooding can also lead to difficult driving conditions and some road closures in the affected areas.

Andy Moody, Director at GoShorty, warned drivers of the risk of receiving fines or penalty points on their licence for simple actions.

He said: “Getting 12 points on your driving licence in less than three years could get you disqualified from driving.

“On top of that, getting points on your licence will also result in the increase of your insurance policy, as your insurance provider will want
to be informed about all your motoring convictions in the past three
years (five in some cases).

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You may laugh when splashing pedestrians in your car on rainy days, but you may actually be committing a criminal offence.

It doesn’t matter if it’s accidental or on purpose - if the splashing is deemed to be deliberate and when it is as a result of incompetence, inadvertence or inexperience, you could get fined, according to the Crown Prosecution Service.

However, police officers are asked to judge each case individually.

The maximum punishment is a level five fine of £5,000 in instances where driving “amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness”.

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is an offence to drive “without reasonable consideration for other persons”, and this includes any instance of “driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed”.

Luckily, it’s more likely that you’ll be issued with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three penalty points if you are caught.

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On 17/06/2023 04:40 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is illegal to splash someone as it amounts to driving “without reasonable consideration for other persons”. Those found guilty of deliberately driving through puddles and splashing pedestrians

will likely be hit with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three penalty points if caught by police.

Does that cover children with water pistols?

Are you TOTALLY without a sense of fun or humour?

[That was rhetorical. Everyone knows the answer. The only thing you've
ever found funny was when your wife got a GATSO speeding ticket.]

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On 17/06/2023 06:35 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

You may laugh when splashing pedestrians in your car on rainy days, but you may actually be committing a criminal offence.

What a STUPID attempt to divert from the actual subject of the story -
which was a *disabled* *child* splashing a passing humourless
chav-on-a-bike with a water pistol.

It doesn’t matter if it’s accidental or on purpose - if the splashing is deemed to be deliberate...

Are you quite right in the head?

Re-read what you've just written.

It sums to "If it's deliberate, it doesn't matter whether it's deliberate".

But hey... it IS Mad mason's post...

[ ... ]

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is an offence to drive “without reasonable consideration for other persons”, and this includes any instance of “driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed”.

What does it say about water pistols in the hands of a child?

Luckily, it’s more likely that you’ll be issued with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three penalty points if you are caught.

Mason: prize buffoon.

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On 17/06/2023 10:36 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A POLICE car has been spotted soaking two cyclists and people are asking if they should be fined.

The video was uploaded to TikTok by user @nickdaw1 and shows a flooded London street.

It's shot using a smartphone from high up above the flooded road and starts by showing cars driving through the deep water.

The caption on the video reads; 'wait till the end,' and 'got them both.'

A few seconds in, a siren can be heard approaching the section of the road in shot and a police car comes into view.

At the same time, a couple of cyclists can be made out coming along the drenched road in the same direction.

As the police car roars past it hits a stretch of water and gives both cyclists a proper soaking.

The video ends with the police car speeding off up the road and you can hear shouting in the background - perhaps from the cyclists.

But people in the comments were quick to point out that the police driver could be fined for the act.

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is an offence to drive "without reasonable consideration for other persons."

According to the Crown Prosecution Service, this includes "driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed.

Typically, this will land you with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three points on your licence if you're caught by the police.

But if you're considered to be driving your motor in a manner that "amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness" then you can get a maximum level five fine, which is currently set at £5,000.

@cherryruthmoore said: "that is a £5000 fine! according to the new law!!!😳"

@adam.pearcy said: "£5000 fine according to the law… and it’d be worth every penny."

@Danielpumphrey said: "Hope they got a £5k fine! One rule for them, another for us."

While @al_1001 said: "9 points and a £5000 fine coming your way 😆"

Yeah.... go on... report them. You know you want to...

See whether it improves the regard in which you chavs-on-bikes are held
by the police.

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Drivers across the UK face fines of up to £5,000 for an immature action when in control of a car in wet conditions.

Amid heavy rain across the UK in recent months, driving conditions have been far from ideal.

One rule drivers need to know involves driving in puddles of water in wet conditions.

Although the urge to soak a pedestrian may be strong, it has been highlighted as a £5,000 offence according to research from Zuto.

According to the Road Traffic Act 1988 in reference to careless and inconsiderate driving, the law is clear.

It states: “If a person drives a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road or other public place without due care and attention, or without reasonable consideration for other persons using the road or place, he is guilty of an offence.”

This means that speeding up through a puddle at the side of the road to splash an unsuspecting pedestrian is actually illegal and can land you a fine of up to £5,000!

The best way to avoid this is to either slow down when going through the puddle (if safe to do so) to minimise the impact or to go around the puddle and avoid it completely (again, only if safe to do so).

So, although it may seem like a harmless prank, it’s worth thinking twice the next time you drive in wet conditions.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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This incomplete report has left out a necessary step in the application
legal sanction for this offence, so treat the below with some caution.

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Drivers across the UK face fines of up to £5,000 for an immature action when in control of a car in wet conditions.

Amid heavy rain across the UK in recent months, driving conditions have
been far from ideal.

One rule drivers need to know involves driving in puddles of water in wet conditions.

Although the urge to soak a pedestrian may be strong, it has been
highlighted as a £5,000 offence according to research from Zuto.

According to the Road Traffic Act 1988 in reference to careless and inconsiderate driving, the law is clear.

It states: “If a person drives a mechanically propelled vehicle on a road or other public place without due care and attention, or without
reasonable consideration for other persons using the road or place, he is guilty of an offence.”

This means that speeding up through a puddle at the side of the road to splash an unsuspecting pedestrian is actually illegal and can land you a
fine of up to £5,000!

The best way to avoid this is to either slow down when going through the puddle (if safe to do so) to minimise the impact or to go around the
puddle and avoid it completely (again, only if safe to do so).

So, although it may seem like a harmless prank, it’s worth thinking twice the next time you drive in wet conditions.

--
Spike

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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When it rains, puddles collect in and near the gutter and in the hundreds of thousands of potholes that litter the UK’s roads. Sometimes it’s hard to avoid them. For pedestrians on the pavement they are at risk of being splashed if a vehicle drives
through the puddle. Is it illegal, though?

Yes, splashing pedestrians is illegal and you can be prosecuted under Section 3 of the Road Traffic Act for careless, aggressive or inconsiderate behaviour on the road. You could be summoned to court, fined £150 and given three penalty points. The same
applies to cyclists.

If you are convicted then you could see an increase in your insurance premiums..

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On 18/06/2023 07:13 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

When it rains, puddles collect in and near the gutter and in the hundreds of thousands of potholes that litter the UK’s roads. Sometimes it’s hard to avoid them. For pedestrians on the pavement they are at risk of being splashed if a vehicle drives

through the puddle. Is it illegal, though?

What's it got to do with children playing with water pistols?

Yes, splashing pedestrians is illegal

What? When done by a playful disabled child with a toy water pistol?

Are you really trying to claim that such a child commits an offence?

and you can be prosecuted under Section 3 of the Road Traffic Act for careless, aggressive or inconsiderate behaviour on the road. You could be summoned to court, fined £150 and given three penalty points. The same applies to cyclists.

Chav-cyclists can be given penalty points?

When did that start?

Or are you just spouting your usual bilge?

If you are convicted then you could see an increase in your insurance premiums..

Good luck prosecuting a disabled nine-year old for puncturing the
non-existent dignity of a chav on a bike.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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The weather has undoubtedly turned in recent days and the rain has been pelting down across the North East.

But motorists should be careful when driving in wet weather, because if you soak a pedestrian, either purposefully or accidentally, you could get yourself in trouble with the law and get a fine.

As fun as it may seem to drive through a giant puddle on the edge of the road, take in your surroundings before you speed through.

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is an offence to drive "without reasonable consideration for other persons", and this includes any instance of "driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed".

This means that while it might seem like a harmless prank, soaking pedestrians with your car is illegal.

If the act was found to be purposeful, then you could also be slapped with a public order offence, which is intended to penalise the use of violence or intimidation.

According to British law, there's a maximum fine of £5,000 for drivers who drive through a puddle, causing pedestrians to be splashed.

How much you're fined depends on your intentions and how much they display what "amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness".

However, it's more likely that you'll be given a £100 fine and three points on your licence.

If you refuse to pay and end up in court, you could be facing the maximum £5,000 fine.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

There have been recent cases of cyclists faking videos, so how long do you think it will be before a cyclist gets someone to throw a bucket of water
over them and then claiming a driver soaked them by driving through a
puddle?



swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

The weather has undoubtedly turned in recent days and the rain has been pelting down across the North East.

But motorists should be careful when driving in wet weather, because if
you soak a pedestrian, either purposefully or accidentally, you could get yourself in trouble with the law and get a fine.

As fun as it may seem to drive through a giant puddle on the edge of the road, take in your surroundings before you speed through.

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is an offence to
drive "without reasonable consideration for other persons", and this
includes any instance of "driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed".

This means that while it might seem like a harmless prank, soaking pedestrians with your car is illegal.

If the act was found to be purposeful, then you could also be slapped
with a public order offence, which is intended to penalise the use of violence or intimidation.

According to British law, there's a maximum fine of £5,000 for drivers
who drive through a puddle, causing pedestrians to be splashed.

How much you're fined depends on your intentions and how much they
display what "amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness,
impatience or aggressiveness".

However, it's more likely that you'll be given a £100 fine and three
points on your licence.

If you refuse to pay and end up in court, you could be facing the maximum £5,000 fine.

--
Spike

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On 18/06/2023 04:43 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

The weather has undoubtedly turned in recent days and the rain has been pelting down across the North East.

<shrug>

But motorists should be careful when driving in wet weather, because if you soak a pedestrian, either purposefully or accidentally, you could get yourself in trouble with the law and get a fine.
As fun as it may seem to drive through a giant puddle on the edge of the road, take in your surroundings before you speed through.
Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is an offence to drive "without reasonable consideration for other persons", and this includes any instance of "driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed".
This means that while it might seem like a harmless prank, soaking pedestrians with your car is illegal.

The humourless chav-on-the-bike you mentioned in the thread title was
not wet by a puddle.

The culprit was a disabled small child with a toy water pistol.

Which section of the 1988 Road Traffic Act applies in such circumstances?

If the act was found to be purposeful,

What?

The 1988 Act?

What does "purposeful" even mean?

then you could also be slapped with a public order offence, which is intended to penalise the use of violence or intimidation.
According to British law, there's a maximum fine of £5,000 for drivers who drive through a puddle, causing pedestrians to be splashed.

Please cite the law to which you refer.

How much you're fined depends on your intentions and how much they display what "amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness".
However, it's more likely that you'll be given a £100 fine and three points on your licence.

If you refuse to pay and end up in court, you could be facing the maximum £5,000 fine.

A bit heavy for a small child with a water pistol, isn't it?

Are you mad?

[Don't answer that.]

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is illegal to splash someone as it amounts to driving “without reasonable consideration for other persons.”

Those found guilty of deliberately driving through puddles and splashing pedestrians will likely be hit with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three penalty points if caught by police.

However, should motorists be deemed to be driving in a manner that “amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience, and aggressiveness” then the maximum punishment of a £5,000 fine could be levelled.

If drivers fail to pay the £100 fixed penalty or refuse the penalty notice they could also face the maximum £5,000 fine if the case is taken to court.

RAC road safety spokesman Pete Williams calls on motorists to show respect and care for other road users and pedestrians, to they don’t give out any unwanted soakings.

He said: "Anyone unfortunate enough to have suffered a drenching by an inconsiderate motorist splashing them when driving through a puddle would probably welcome a sizeable financial penalty for the driver.

"Since 2013 careless driving can be dealt with by a Fixed Penalty Notice with a £100 fine and three penalty points.

"If, however, they refuse [the notice] then they will face a magistrate who could impose a fine up to £5,000, although the maximum is very unlikely.”

Mr Williams said that the fine would then likely be appropriate to the level of distress caused, which would help send out a clear message to other drivers that this sort of behaviour is not acceptable.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

This is the sixth post you’ve made in this thread, concerning vehicles splashing people, concentrating on the punishments available in law, which
of course are the same in each post, the law not having changed since the thread started.

Is there any particular reason for this amount of repetition, or has your memory been damaged by medications or something ?


swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is illegal to splash someone as it amounts to driving “without reasonable consideration for other persons.”

Those found guilty of deliberately driving through puddles and splashing pedestrians will likely be hit with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three penalty points if caught by police.

However, should motorists be deemed to be driving in a manner that
“amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience, and aggressiveness” then the maximum punishment of a £5,000 fine could be levelled.

If drivers fail to pay the £100 fixed penalty or refuse the penalty
notice they could also face the maximum £5,000 fine if the case is taken to court.

RAC road safety spokesman Pete Williams calls on motorists to show
respect and care for other road users and pedestrians, to they don’t give out any unwanted soakings.

He said: "Anyone unfortunate enough to have suffered a drenching by an inconsiderate motorist splashing them when driving through a puddle would probably welcome a sizeable financial penalty for the driver.

"Since 2013 careless driving can be dealt with by a Fixed Penalty Notice
with a £100 fine and three penalty points.

"If, however, they refuse [the notice] then they will face a magistrate
who could impose a fine up to £5,000, although the maximum is very unlikely.”

Mr Williams said that the fine would then likely be appropriate to the
level of distress caused, which would help send out a clear message to
other drivers that this sort of behaviour is not acceptable.

--
Spike

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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What might seem like a harmless prank to motorists could see them be fined as much as £5,000.

Driving through puddles and splashing pedestrians may seem like a normal or unavoidable occurrence, but it is not just rude - it could be illegal.

Under the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is illegal to drive "without reasonable consideration for other persons". The law also bans "driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed".

While the £5,000 figure is one extreme, most people would be handed a fixed £100 penalty for the offence, Gloucestershire Live reports.

That would be imposed if the driver’s behaviour is found to be "an act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience, or aggressiveness".

However, as well as points, drivers are risking three and nine penalty points on their licence.
Will police really act?

Last year, in Cambridgeshire, an appeal was launched to find a motorist who soaked a mother after ploughing through a puddle.

The mother was with her two children, including one in a pram, when a car drove through the 20ft-long puddle and splashed all three.

A spokesman for Cambridgeshire Police said at the time: "On Thursday, January 4, around noon, a mother was with her two children, one in a pram and the other walking alongside her near the junction of Pig Lane and Greengarth in St Ives.

"Due to the poor weather, a very large puddle had built up due to a blocked drain near to the junction which was half way across the road. It was not raining and the puddle, some 20 feet in length, could easily be seen by motorists.
Is there anything you can do if you fall victim to the splash? (Image: Manchester Evening News)

"Unbelievably a motorist drove through the puddle causing the water to soak the three.

"The driver could well have waited to drive around the puddle or driven through it very slowly so as to not cause water to splash anyone on the footpath."

National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) guidance is that lower level careless driving offences are considered for a fixed penalty, while advice also states the offender should be offered driver education in most cases.

The CPS charging guidelines cites splashing pedestrians as an example of driving that should lead to a charge.
'Serious safety issue'

Confused.com motoring editor, Amanda Stretton, described the offence as "a serious safety issue for drivers".

She said: "Firstly, drivers have no way of knowing what the road surface is under the puddle, causing unpredictable driving conditions.

"Secondly, the water itself can cause the car to aquaplane – where the vehicle’s tyres fail to grip the road and cause the driver to lose control.

"If that isn’t enough, it’s also just incredibly rude and drivers can be penalised, quite rightly, with a huge £5,000 fine.

"Puddle rage really can lead to big fines. To avoid this cost and to ensure their safety, we advise motorists to look out for big puddles when driving, and pay particular attention when there are pedestrians around."

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On 19/06/2023 11:29 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

What might seem like a harmless prank to motorists could see them be fined as much as £5,000.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

Driving through puddles and splashing pedestrians may seem like a normal or unavoidable occurrence, but it is not just rude - it could be illegal.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

Under the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is illegal to drive "without reasonable consideration for other persons". The law also bans "driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed".

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

While the £5,000 figure is one extreme, most people would be handed a fixed £100 penalty for the offence, Gloucestershire Live reports.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

That would be imposed if the driver’s behaviour is found to be "an act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience, or aggressiveness".

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

However, as well as points, drivers are risking three and nine penalty points on their licence.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

Will police really act?

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

Last year, in Cambridgeshire, an appeal was launched to find a motorist who soaked a mother after ploughing through a puddle.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

The mother was with her two children, including one in a pram, when a car drove through the 20ft-long puddle and splashed all three.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

A spokesman for Cambridgeshire Police said at the time: "On Thursday, January 4, around noon, a mother was with her two children, one in a pram and the other walking alongside her near the junction of Pig Lane and Greengarth in St Ives.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

"Due to the poor weather, a very large puddle had built up due to a blocked drain near to the junction which was half way across the road. It was not raining and the puddle, some 20 feet in length, could easily be seen by motorists.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

Is there anything you can do if you fall victim to the splash? (Image: Manchester Evening News)

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

"Unbelievably a motorist drove through the puddle causing the water to soak the three.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

"The driver could well have waited to drive around the puddle or driven through it very slowly so as to not cause water to splash anyone on the footpath."

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) guidance is that lower level careless driving offences are considered for a fixed penalty, while advice also states the offender should be offered driver education in most cases.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

The CPS charging guidelines cites splashing pedestrians as an example of driving that should lead to a charge.
'Serious safety issue'

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

Confused.com motoring editor, Amanda Stretton, described the offence as "a serious safety issue for drivers".

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

She said: "Firstly, drivers have no way of knowing what the road surface is under the puddle, causing unpredictable driving conditions.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

"Secondly, the water itself can cause the car to aquaplane – where the vehicle’s tyres fail to grip the road and cause the driver to lose control.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

"If that isn’t enough, it’s also just incredibly rude and drivers can be penalised, quite rightly, with a huge £5,000 fine.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

"Puddle rage really can lead to big fines. To avoid this cost and to ensure their safety, we advise motorists to look out for big puddles when driving, and pay particular attention when there are pedestrians around."

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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On 19/06/2023 07:37 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is illegal to splash someone as it amounts to driving “without reasonable consideration for other persons.”

What does any of that irrelevance have to do with the case at hand (see
thread title) wherein a humourless chav on a bike took umbrage against a disabled child for squirting her (the chav) with a *water* *pistol*?

Those found guilty of deliberately driving through puddles and splashing pedestrians will likely be hit with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three penalty points if caught by police.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

However, should motorists be deemed to be driving in a manner that “amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience, and aggressiveness” then the maximum punishment of a £5,000 fine could be levelled.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

If drivers fail to pay the £100 fixed penalty or refuse the penalty notice they could also face the maximum £5,000 fine if the case is taken to court.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

RAC road safety spokesman Pete Williams calls on motorists to show respect and care for other road users and pedestrians, to they don’t give out any unwanted soakings.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

He said: "Anyone unfortunate enough to have suffered a drenching by an inconsiderate motorist splashing them when driving through a puddle would probably welcome a sizeable financial penalty for the driver.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

"Since 2013 careless driving can be dealt with by a Fixed Penalty Notice with a £100 fine and three penalty points.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

"If, however, they refuse [the notice] then they will face a magistrate who could impose a fine up to £5,000, although the maximum is very unlikely.”

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.

Mr Williams said that the fine would then likely be appropriate to the level of distress caused, which would help send out a clear message to other drivers that this sort of behaviour is not acceptable.

Not relevant and posted only as a deceitful chav-cyclist attempt at
diversion.


--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

This is the seventh post you’ve made in this thread, concerning vehicles splashing people, concentrating on the punishments available in law, which
of course are the same in each post, the law not having changed since the thread started.

Is there any particular reason for this amount of repetition, or has your memory been damaged by medications or something ?

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

What might seem like a harmless prank to motorists could see them be
fined as much as £5,000.

Driving through puddles and splashing pedestrians may seem like a normal
or unavoidable occurrence, but it is not just rude - it could be illegal.

Under the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is illegal to drive "without
reasonable consideration for other persons". The law also bans "driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed".

While the £5,000 figure is one extreme, most people would be handed a
fixed £100 penalty for the offence, Gloucestershire Live reports.

That would be imposed if the driver’s behaviour is found to be "an act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience, or aggressiveness".

However, as well as points, drivers are risking three and nine penalty
points on their licence.
Will police really act?

Last year, in Cambridgeshire, an appeal was launched to find a motorist
who soaked a mother after ploughing through a puddle.

The mother was with her two children, including one in a pram, when a car drove through the 20ft-long puddle and splashed all three.

A spokesman for Cambridgeshire Police said at the time: "On Thursday,
January 4, around noon, a mother was with her two children, one in a pram
and the other walking alongside her near the junction of Pig Lane and Greengarth in St Ives.

"Due to the poor weather, a very large puddle had built up due to a
blocked drain near to the junction which was half way across the road. It
was not raining and the puddle, some 20 feet in length, could easily be seen by motorists.
Is there anything you can do if you fall victim to the splash? (Image: Manchester Evening News)

"Unbelievably a motorist drove through the puddle causing the water to soak the three.

"The driver could well have waited to drive around the puddle or driven through it very slowly so as to not cause water to splash anyone on the footpath."

National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) guidance is that lower level
careless driving offences are considered for a fixed penalty, while
advice also states the offender should be offered driver education in most cases.

The CPS charging guidelines cites splashing pedestrians as an example of driving that should lead to a charge.
'Serious safety issue'

Confused.com motoring editor, Amanda Stretton, described the offence as
"a serious safety issue for drivers".

She said: "Firstly, drivers have no way of knowing what the road surface
is under the puddle, causing unpredictable driving conditions.

"Secondly, the water itself can cause the car to aquaplane – where the vehicle’s tyres fail to grip the road and cause the driver to lose control.

"If that isn’t enough, it’s also just incredibly rude and drivers can be penalised, quite rightly, with a huge £5,000 fine.

"Puddle rage really can lead to big fines. To avoid this cost and to
ensure their safety, we advise motorists to look out for big puddles when driving, and pay particular attention when there are pedestrians around."

--
Spike

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)

On 19/06/2023 04:06 pm, Spike wrote:

This is the seventh post you’ve made in this thread, concerning vehicles splashing people, concentrating on the punishments available in law, which
of course are the same in each post, the law not having changed since the thread started.

Is there any particular reason for this amount of repetition, or has your memory been damaged by medications or something ?

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

What might seem like a harmless prank to motorists could see them be
fined as much as £5,000.

Driving through puddles and splashing pedestrians may seem like a normal
or unavoidable occurrence, but it is not just rude - it could be illegal.

Under the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is illegal to drive "without
reasonable consideration for other persons". The law also bans "driving
through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed".

While the £5,000 figure is one extreme, most people would be handed a
fixed £100 penalty for the offence, Gloucestershire Live reports.

That would be imposed if the driver’s behaviour is found to be "an act of >> incompetence, selfishness, impatience, or aggressiveness".

However, as well as points, drivers are risking three and nine penalty
points on their licence.
Will police really act?

Last year, in Cambridgeshire, an appeal was launched to find a motorist
who soaked a mother after ploughing through a puddle.

The mother was with her two children, including one in a pram, when a car
drove through the 20ft-long puddle and splashed all three.

A spokesman for Cambridgeshire Police said at the time: "On Thursday,
January 4, around noon, a mother was with her two children, one in a pram
and the other walking alongside her near the junction of Pig Lane and
Greengarth in St Ives.

"Due to the poor weather, a very large puddle had built up due to a
blocked drain near to the junction which was half way across the road. It
was not raining and the puddle, some 20 feet in length, could easily be seen by motorists.
Is there anything you can do if you fall victim to the splash? (Image:
Manchester Evening News)

"Unbelievably a motorist drove through the puddle causing the water to soak the three.

"The driver could well have waited to drive around the puddle or driven
through it very slowly so as to not cause water to splash anyone on the footpath."

National Police Chiefs' Council (NPCC) guidance is that lower level
careless driving offences are considered for a fixed penalty, while
advice also states the offender should be offered driver education in most cases.

The CPS charging guidelines cites splashing pedestrians as an example of
driving that should lead to a charge.
'Serious safety issue'

Confused.com motoring editor, Amanda Stretton, described the offence as
"a serious safety issue for drivers".

She said: "Firstly, drivers have no way of knowing what the road surface
is under the puddle, causing unpredictable driving conditions.

"Secondly, the water itself can cause the car to aquaplane – where the
vehicle’s tyres fail to grip the road and cause the driver to lose control.

"If that isn’t enough, it’s also just incredibly rude and drivers can be >> penalised, quite rightly, with a huge £5,000 fine.

"Puddle rage really can lead to big fines. To avoid this cost and to
ensure their safety, we advise motorists to look out for big puddles when
driving, and pay particular attention when there are pedestrians around."

...and all because a playful, disabled, small child squirted a
chav-cyclist with a water pistol.

Chavs-on-bikes have a weird sense of their own (lack of) dignity.

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It’s against the law to drench a pedestrian? 😲

How on earth is this a surprise to people? : if you walked up to someone in the street and threw a bucket of water over them you'd expect consequences surely? A car just changes the technical name of the offence.

It's also incredibly bad practice to blast through puddles anyway, pavement/pedestrians or not. Can total your engine, you can lose traction, you don't know how deep the water is and you don't know what other hazards such as glass/ditches might be below
it.

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On 19/06/2023 04:32 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

It’s against the law to drench a pedestrian? 😲

Not always.

How on earth is this a surprise to people? : if you walked up to someone in the street and threw a bucket of water over them you'd expect consequences surely? A car just changes the technical name of the offence.

You say "a car".

But you really mean a water pistol deployed by a small child.

Of course, one can depend upon any chav-on-a-bike to take umbrage on
being splashed by a child. It's an affront to their non-existent dignity.

It's also incredibly bad practice to blast through puddles anyway, pavement/pedestrians or not. Can total your engine, you can lose traction, you don't know how deep the water is and you don't know what other hazards such as glass/ditches might be

below it.

Nothing in the slightest to do with the instant case of the playful
small child.

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QUOTE: Drivers across the UK face fines of up to £5,000 for an immature action when in control of a car in wet conditions.
Amid heavy rain across the UK in recent months, driving conditions have been far from ideal. One rule drivers need to know involves driving in puddles of water in wet conditions. Although the urge to soak a pedestrian may be strong, it has been
highlighted as a £5,000 offence according to new research from Zuto. ENDS

"Although the urge to soak a pedestrian may be strong" - A SMALL WINDOW INTO THE VINDICTIVE MIND OF THE AVERAGE CHAV DRIVER.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: Drivers across the UK face fines of up to £5,000 for an immature action when in control of a car in wet conditions.
Amid heavy rain across the UK in recent months, driving conditions have
been far from ideal. One rule drivers need to know involves driving in puddles of water in wet conditions. Although the urge to soak a
pedestrian may be strong, it has been highlighted as a £5,000 offence according to new research from Zuto. ENDS

"Although the urge to soak a pedestrian may be strong" - A SMALL WINDOW
INTO THE VINDICTIVE MIND OF THE AVERAGE CHAV DRIVER.

Posting this same information eight times in one thread certainly does open
a window into the vindictive small mind of the average cyclist.

--
Spike

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On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 7:34:38 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: The Road Traffic Act requires you to drive with reasonable consideration for other road users – including pedestrians. You cannot therefore splash through puddles and soak pedestrians without being punished, however funny you may find it…

ENDS

Oh how all the chavs laughed in their chavmobile.

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On 20/06/2023 11:42 am, swldx...@gmail.com...

... deceitfully pretending only to answer his own posts, said:

On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 7:34:38 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:

QUOTE: The Road Traffic Act requires you to drive with reasonable consideration for other road users – including pedestrians. You cannot therefore splash through puddles and soak pedestrians without being punished, however funny you may find it…

ENDS

Oh how all the chavs laughed in their chavmobile.

What does the Road Traffic Act say about:

(a) young disabled children.

(b) toy water pistols and

(c) pompous and humourless chavs on bikes who "think" that it offends
their non-existent dignity to be squirted by a young child with a toy
water pistol?

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With the weather getting more grim as the month goes on, you might find yourself walking outside with an umbrella.

And with rain comes puddles which means there are plenty of opportunities to get soaked by drivers.

But what does the law say and what are you rights regarding this?

Under British law, drivers could be hit with a maximum fine for £5,000 if they are caught driving through a puddle which causes a pedestrian to be splashed.

So yes, it is illegal to splash a pedestrian with water from the road whilst driving your car and you could also be slapped with a public order offence if you are seen to deliberately drive through puddles to target pedestrians.
Splashing a pedestrian could land you in trouble.

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is an offence to drive "without reasonable consideration for other persons", and this includes any instance of "driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed".
How much could you be fined?

The maximum punishment is a level five fine of £5,000 in instances where driving "amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness".

You are more likely to be be issued with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three penalty points if you are caught.

But if you refuse to pay and take the matter to court you could see a maximum fine of £5,000 imposed.

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Nine times now in this thread, Briedbart limit on the horizon…


swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

With the weather getting more grim as the month goes on, you might find yourself walking outside with an umbrella.

And with rain comes puddles which means there are plenty of opportunities
to get soaked by drivers.

But what does the law say and what are you rights regarding this?

Under British law, drivers could be hit with a maximum fine for £5,000 if they are caught driving through a puddle which causes a pedestrian to be splashed.

So yes, it is illegal to splash a pedestrian with water from the road
whilst driving your car and you could also be slapped with a public order offence if you are seen to deliberately drive through puddles to target pedestrians.
Splashing a pedestrian could land you in trouble.

Under section three of the Road Traffic Act 1988, it is an offence to
drive "without reasonable consideration for other persons", and this
includes any instance of "driving through a puddle causing pedestrians to be splashed".
How much could you be fined?

The maximum punishment is a level five fine of £5,000 in instances where driving "amounts to a clear act of incompetence, selfishness, impatience or aggressiveness".

You are more likely to be be issued with a £100 fixed penalty notice and three penalty points if you are caught.

But if you refuse to pay and take the matter to court you could see a
maximum fine of £5,000 imposed.

--
Spike

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A maths teacher has been convicted of assault after squirting his ex-partner with a water pistol.

Timothy Gledhill, 40, wept in court when he was told a judge would not be overturning the conviction.

Gledhill feared professional ruin after he was found guilty of soaking his furious victim with a child's toy in a 'humiliating' attack during two heated rows.

During the appeal he was asked if the water had struck Catherine Weir in the attack and Gledhill told the judge and two magistrates that it was a question of probability.

He said he had fired the water pistol and could not rule out that water had not accidentally hit her, but added: 'I haven't done anything wrong.'

Canterbury Crown Court was played a recording of the incident, which happened on a bridge in Canterbury, made by Ms Weir in which she was heard to shout: 'Stop it, stop it. Stop shooting at me.'

Gledhill told the appeal panel: 'She was just trying to get me into trouble. It isn't illegal to hold a water pistol. It's just a toy.'

Judge Nigel Van Der Bijl and the magistrates dismissed the appeal saying they could not accept Gledhill's version of events.

The judge said: 'What you did wasn't funny. It was done to humiliate your former partner.

'You thought you were being clever in covering your tracks. But she was a victim of an assault and there is no doubt about it.

'You knew perfectly well what you were doing. You did it to in some way humiliate her and to put one over on her.'

Gledhill voluntarily left Canterbury College in February and took up a post at Canterbury Academy.

He spent a significant amount trying to clear his name and failed - but the teacher has had the full support of his new school.

Head teacher Phil Karnavas said Gledhill has spent several thousands of pounds trying to clear his name.

He said: 'It has left most of us somewhat surprised that A, it got that far and B, we've ended where we have.
Canterbury Crown Court (pictured) was played a recording of the incident made by Ms Weir in which she was heard to shout: 'Stop it, stop it. Stop shooting at me'

'Mr Gledhill continues to have my full professional and personal support.

'The bottom line is he's a really nice, honourable and decent bloke that has found himself in a situation that none of us would like to find ourselves.

'He was so morally offended by it and so upset by the fact that he was carrying the record for something he didn't recognise as being anything other than being a bit daft.

'It's cost him a significant amount of money and has experienced a significant degree of nervous anxiety and professional stress.

'I think spraying someone with a water pistol doesn't really seem to me to be an offence to public safety let alone a halfway appropriate use of public money.'

The teacher, of Sturry, Kent, was given a 12-month conditional discharge and ordered to pay £400 costs for the assaults on Ms Weir in July 2014.



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On 20/06/2023 04:39 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A maths teacher has been convicted of assault after squirting his ex-partner with a water pistol.
Timothy Gledhill, 40, wept in court when he was told a judge would not be overturning the conviction.
Gledhill feared professional ruin after he was found guilty of soaking his furious victim with a child's toy in a 'humiliating' attack during two heated rows.

Chav-cyclists, surely, by definition, can't *be* humiliated?

They're already as very 'umble as anyone be. Or at least, they ought to be.

Now... any reports of 9-year old disabled children being convicted for squirting a water pistol at an arrogant chav-on-a-bike?

Just the one example will do...

Here's the space for it:

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During the appeal he was asked if the water had struck Catherine Weir in the attack and Gledhill told the judge and two magistrates that it was a question of probability.
He said he had fired the water pistol and could not rule out that water had not accidentally hit her, but added: 'I haven't done anything wrong.'
Canterbury Crown Court was played a recording of the incident, which happened on a bridge in Canterbury, made by Ms Weir in which she was heard to shout: 'Stop it, stop it. Stop shooting at me.'

"shooting at me...".

Cyclists also often appear to have a fear of water, don't they? And soap.

Gledhill told the appeal panel: 'She was just trying to get me into trouble. It isn't illegal to hold a water pistol. It's just a toy.'
Judge Nigel Van Der Bijl and the magistrates dismissed the appeal saying they could not accept Gledhill's version of events.
The judge said: 'What you did wasn't funny. It was done to humiliate your former partner.
'You thought you were being clever in covering your tracks. But she was a victim of an assault and there is no doubt about it.
'You knew perfectly well what you were doing. You did it to in some way humiliate her and to put one over on her.'
Gledhill voluntarily left Canterbury College in February and took up a post at Canterbury Academy.
He spent a significant amount trying to clear his name and failed - but the teacher has had the full support of his new school.
Head teacher Phil Karnavas said Gledhill has spent several thousands of pounds trying to clear his name.
He said: 'It has left most of us somewhat surprised that A, it got that far and B, we've ended where we have.
Canterbury Crown Court (pictured) was played a recording of the incident made by Ms Weir in which she was heard to shout: 'Stop it, stop it. Stop shooting at me'
'Mr Gledhill continues to have my full professional and personal support. 'The bottom line is he's a really nice, honourable and decent bloke that has found himself in a situation that none of us would like to find ourselves....

...and his antagonist is not even reported to be a chav-on-a-bike.

'He was so morally offended by it and so upset by the fact that he was carrying the record for something he didn't recognise as being anything other than being a bit daft.
'It's cost him a significant amount of money and has experienced a significant degree of nervous anxiety and professional stress.
'I think spraying someone with a water pistol doesn't really seem to me to be an offence to public safety let alone a halfway appropriate use of public money.'
The teacher, of Sturry, Kent, was given a 12-month conditional discharge and ordered to pay £400 costs for the assaults on Ms Weir in July 2014.

These days, that's a mild punishment.

As it ought to be, of course.

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A student was wounded by a classmate who shot a water pistol containing hydrochloric acid in their face.

The victim, aged between 11 and 15, was left 'stunned and with facial sores' after the corrosive liquid missed their eyes by 'millimetres', reported The Sun.

The attack at an unnamed school in north Wales.

The attacker was reportedly issued a community resolution order, which does not result in a criminal record and carries less weight than a caution.

Earlier this year, retailers including Tesco signed up to a voluntary Government initiative that banned the sale of products with harmful levels of acid to minors.

It came following a sharp rise in the number of acid attacks taking place in Britain.

There were 454 acid-based attacks in London alone in 2016, up on 261 the year before, according to Government figures.

The Acid Survivors Trust International say there has been a 90 percent increase in acid violence in the UK over he last 10 years.

The problem is prevalent among teenagers.

A report last year indicated schoolchildren find it easier to squirt rivals with acid rather than stab or fight them.

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On 20/06/2023 06:03 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A student was wounded by a classmate who shot a water pistol containing hydrochloric acid in their face.
The victim, aged between 11 and 15,

"student", aged 11 to 15?

was left 'stunned and with facial sores' after the corrosive liquid missed their eyes by 'millimetres', reported The Sun.
The attack at an unnamed school in north Wales.
The attacker was reportedly issued a community resolution order, which does not result in a criminal record and carries less weight than a caution.
Earlier this year, retailers including Tesco signed up to a voluntary Government initiative that banned the sale of products with harmful levels of acid to minors.

You have never been able to buy hydrochloric acid at Tesco.

Maybe some strong alkali for cleaning drains.

It came following a sharp rise in the number of acid attacks taking place in Britain.
There were 454 acid-based attacks in London alone in 2016, up on 261 the year before, according to Government figures.
The Acid Survivors Trust International say there has been a 90 percent increase in acid violence in the UK over he last 10 years.
The problem is prevalent among teenagers.
A report last year indicated schoolchildren find it easier to squirt rivals with acid rather than stab or fight them.

Did the disabled child's water-pistol contain hydrochloric acid, then?

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Police are appealing for witnesses after a 12-year-old girl was punched in the face by a woman for squirting people with a water pistol.

In happened outside a pizza shop in Dartington, near Totnes.

Devon and Cornwall Police would like to hear from witnesses who may have seen the incident or have information about the assault.

The incident happened at around 7.15pm on Friday 29 May outside Pizza Side at Meadowbrook on Totnes Road .

The girl, who was with her friend, had been squirting members of the public with a water pistol when the woman took it off her and punched her in the face.

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On 20/06/2023 09:04 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Police are appealing for witnesses after a 12-year-old girl was punched in the face by a woman for squirting people with a water pistol.
In happened outside a pizza shop in Dartington, near Totnes.
Devon and Cornwall Police would like to hear from witnesses who may have seen the incident or have information about the assault.

The assault was the punch administered by a (presumably adult) woman to
a child.

And all over a toy.

So little sense of proportion, that woman's probably a chav-cyclist as well.

The incident happened at around 7.15pm on Friday 29 May outside Pizza Side at Meadowbrook on Totnes Road .
The girl, who was with her friend, had been squirting members of the public with a water pistol when the woman took it off her and punched her in the face.

That's the sort of thing that Mason is itching to do.

He can deck any pre-pubescent girl with one punch, as people like him
say in their trade.

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Three people were arrested over the weekend in connection with the death of Ethan Liming, a 17-year-old from Ohio who was beaten to death in early June in an apparent reaction to a water gun prank.

Deshawn Stafford, 20; Tyler Stafford, 19; and Donovan Jones, 21, were arrested on 11 June, according to Akron police.

Officials had been searching for answers after Liming was found unresponsive in a parking lot outside of Lebron James’s I Promise School in Akron on 2 June.

An unknown caller alerted police to a fight underway around 10:45pm that night, according to officials.

"Ethan Liming lost his life in a senseless act of violence. Ethan did not deserve to die Saturday night. He did not," Akron police chief Stephern Mylett said in a press conference after the death.

The fight occurred after Liming and a group of associates arrived at the school and began shooting a toy SPLATRBALL Water Bead Blaster at a group playing basketball nearby.

Liming’s injuries suggested a “prolonged, intentional intent to assault him,” police have said.

Liming was white, while the three individuals arrested are Black, according to police.

"There is nothing that we have in our possession right now, any indication at all, indicating that race played a role in this homicide. Nothing," Mr Mylett said during the press conference.

Liming’s parents lamented the loss of their son.

"We would do anything we could possibly do to turn the clock back and have him in my arms again. And to see his face again, but they robbed me of even that ability. And they destroyed my child’s face and his head," Bill Liming told News 5 Cleveland. “
People keep saying, ‘Oh, you do these things and you get what you deserve.’ I don’t think anybody’s child would ever deserve what happened to him. Nobody’s child would deserve what they did to my child.”

Officials in Akron condemned the violence.

“Ethan Liming was a young man with a full life ahead of him, and that bright future was senselessly taken from him in the most brutal of ways. This type of violence in our community has ripple effects that touch each person, including myself, in
profound ways, and I know the city of Akron is in mourning because of this tremendous loss,” mayor Daniel Horrigan said in a statement last week.

Liming dreamed of being a lawyer, and a scholarship is being set up in his name through Akron Public Schools

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I’ve been to Ohio.

I think you’ll find it isn’t in the UK…


swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Three people were arrested over the weekend in connection with the death
of Ethan Liming, a 17-year-old from Ohio who was beaten to death in early June in an apparent reaction to a water gun prank.

Deshawn Stafford, 20; Tyler Stafford, 19; and Donovan Jones, 21, were arrested on 11 June, according to Akron police.

Officials had been searching for answers after Liming was found
unresponsive in a parking lot outside of Lebron James’s I Promise School
in Akron on 2 June.

An unknown caller alerted police to a fight underway around 10:45pm that night, according to officials.

"Ethan Liming lost his life in a senseless act of violence. Ethan did not deserve to die Saturday night. He did not," Akron police chief Stephern Mylett said in a press conference after the death.

The fight occurred after Liming and a group of associates arrived at the school and began shooting a toy SPLATRBALL Water Bead Blaster at a group playing basketball nearby.

Liming’s injuries suggested a “prolonged, intentional intent to assault him,” police have said.

Liming was white, while the three individuals arrested are Black, according to police.

"There is nothing that we have in our possession right now, any
indication at all, indicating that race played a role in this homicide. Nothing," Mr Mylett said during the press conference.

Liming’s parents lamented the loss of their son.

"We would do anything we could possibly do to turn the clock back and
have him in my arms again. And to see his face again, but they robbed me
of even that ability. And they destroyed my child’s face and his head," Bill Liming told News 5 Cleveland. “People keep saying, ‘Oh, you do these things and you get what you deserve.’ I don’t think anybody’s child would
ever deserve what happened to him. Nobody’s child would deserve what they did to my child.”

Officials in Akron condemned the violence.

“Ethan Liming was a young man with a full life ahead of him, and that bright future was senselessly taken from him in the most brutal of ways.
This type of violence in our community has ripple effects that touch each person, including myself, in profound ways, and I know the city of Akron
is in mourning because of this tremendous loss,” mayor Daniel Horrigan
said in a statement last week.

Liming dreamed of being a lawyer, and a scholarship is being set up in
his name through Akron Public Schools

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Spike

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A man who sprayed petrol over two people and then threatened to set them on fire has been jailed.

Kevin Costello, of Cranmer Street, Long Eaton in Derbyshire was sentenced after pleading guilty to filling a children's water gun with fuel before dousing two people in it.

The attack which happened on 30 September last year on George Street in Mansfield is reported to have started after Costello got into an argument with one of the victims.

Costello began to spray the first victim with the fuel-filled water pistol out of the window of his van before attacking the second person when she came to help.

After taking out a lighter and threatening to set them and their house alight, Costello fled the scene on foot. He was later arrested.

Costello admitted to the attack but said he only meant to scare his victims.

He pleaded guilty to two counts of attempting to cause grievous bodily harm with intent.

Temporary Detective Inspector, Andrew Hall, from Nottinghamshire Police, said: "This was an incredibly frightening incident for the victims who were are real risk of very serious injury."

"I can only imagine the fear they felt as Costello waved that lighter towards them."

"Threatening people in this way is completely unacceptable and I am pleased Costello has now been brought to justice."

Costello has been sentenced to six years in jail.

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On 21/06/2023 06:11 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A man who sprayed petrol over two people and then threatened to set them on fire has been jailed. [ ... ]

Q: What does that have to do with:

(a) disabled children,
(b) toy water pistols,
(c) self-important and pompous chav-cyclists or
(d) the charitable and selfless traditions of the licenced taxi-trade in several cities, including London, Liverpool, Glasgow and Edinburgh?

A: Nothing whatsoever. It's just Mad Mason trying to divert attention
(again) from the self-important chav-cyclist whose pomposity was pricked
- quite cleverly - by a small child with a toy water piston, very
probably to the delight of passers-by.

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QUOTE: Costello has been sentenced to six years in jail. ENDS

For squirting a water pistol? It was only meant to be a joke.
HAHAHAH - how we laughed.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: Costello has been sentenced to six years in jail. ENDS

For squirting a water pistol? It was only meant to be a joke.
HAHAHAH - how we laughed.

You’re either deranged or faking it too well.

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Spike

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A man faces court action after shooting at people in a north coast town – with a water pistol.

The 22-year-old could be prosecuted after police failed to see the funny side of his prank in Portstewart, Co Londonderry.

He was in a car travelling along the town's busy Promenade on Sunday evening when police saw one of those inside shooting water over pedestrians and other road users.

Officers stopped the car and identified a man as the prime suspect for the water attacks.

A file on the incident has been sent by police to the Public Prosecution Service (PPS), who will consider whether or not to take court action.

A police spokeswoman said squirting water over other motorists could potentially cause a vehicle to crash.

But followers of the PSNI's North Coast Facebook page said the officers involved "should catch themselves on" and "concentrate on catching real criminals".

Others made tongue-in-cheek remarks about "police hypocrisy" given the use of high-powered water cannon over the Twelfth period.

One posted: "Got to be a joke. Squirting with intent? Grievous bodily wetting? Driving while damp?"

One of the victims of the water pistol shooters, Ulster Unionist MLA Sandra Overend (right), said while those responsible did not mean anybody any harm, their actions were potentially dangerous. Ms Overend, who represents Mid Ulster, was in Portstewart
with her family when a car drove past hers and squirted through her driver's window.

She said: "I was sitting in a queue going into Portstewart, my car was stationary with the window open slightly. We were squirted and my children were in the back. One of them piped up 'I just got wet'.

"There is a serious element where if you're taken by surprise and squirted as a driver it could cause an accident.

"I think the police were right to stop them and warn them of the consequences of what could happen.

"I can also see from the other point of view that is was innocent fun but you need to understand the consequences if you are squirting drivers what can happen."

A police spokeswoman confirmed the report to the PPS.

She added: "Police don't want to be killjoys and stop people having craic, but it's our job to draw the line when things go too far.

"Some people might not take kindly to prankish behaviour and police were being proactive in this instance, preventing trouble from starting in the first place."

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On 21/06/2023 02:11 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A man faces court action after shooting at people in a north coast town – with a water pistol.

The 22-year-old could be prosecuted after police failed to see the funny side of his prank in Portstewart, Co Londonderry.

He was in a car travelling along the town's busy Promenade on Sunday evening when police saw one of those inside shooting water over pedestrians and other road users.

Officers stopped the car and identified a man as the prime suspect for the water attacks.

A file on the incident has been sent by police to the Public Prosecution Service (PPS), who will consider whether or not to take court action.

A police spokeswoman said squirting water over other motorists could potentially cause a vehicle to crash.

But followers of the PSNI's North Coast Facebook page said the officers involved "should catch themselves on" and "concentrate on catching real criminals".

Others made tongue-in-cheek remarks about "police hypocrisy" given the use of high-powered water cannon over the Twelfth period.

One posted: "Got to be a joke. Squirting with intent? Grievous bodily wetting? Driving while damp?"

One of the victims of the water pistol shooters, Ulster Unionist MLA Sandra Overend (right), said while those responsible did not mean anybody any harm, their actions were potentially dangerous. Ms Overend, who represents Mid Ulster, was in Portstewart

with her family when a car drove past hers and squirted through her driver's window.

She said: "I was sitting in a queue going into Portstewart, my car was stationary with the window open slightly. We were squirted and my children were in the back. One of them piped up 'I just got wet'.

"There is a serious element where if you're taken by surprise and squirted as a driver it could cause an accident.

"I think the police were right to stop them and warn them of the consequences of what could happen.

"I can also see from the other point of view that is was innocent fun but you need to understand the consequences if you are squirting drivers what can happen."

A police spokeswoman confirmed the report to the PPS.

She added: "Police don't want to be killjoys and stop people having craic, but it's our job to draw the line when things go too far.

"Some people might not take kindly to prankish behaviour and police were being proactive in this instance, preventing trouble from starting in the first place."

TRANSLATION:

"Yes, we were too po-faced, reacted too quickly and went OTT. Sorry.
We'll try to be less silly in future".

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QUOTE: A police spokeswoman said squirting water over other motorists could potentially cause a vehicle to crash.

But followers of the PSNI's North Coast Facebook page said the officers involved "should catch themselves on" and "concentrate on catching real criminals". ENDS

Ah yes - the usual bleating of the criminal driver:

"HAVEN'T YOU GOT ANYTHING BETTER TO DO?"

You mean doing their jobs?

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE: A police spokeswoman said squirting water over other motorists
could potentially cause a vehicle to crash.

But followers of the PSNI's North Coast Facebook page said the officers involved "should catch themselves on" and "concentrate on catching real criminals". ENDS

Ah yes - the usual bleating of the criminal driver:

"HAVEN'T YOU GOT ANYTHING BETTER TO DO?"

You mean doing their jobs?

Which job? They have so many:

Police: 3000 burglaries a day NFA

Due to lack of resources the police in E&W are closing more than a million cases of burglary and theft every year with NFA after the initial report.

This is the time to ask the question as to whether the police can afford to follow up on ‘cases’ where a driver has not collided with a cyclist.

Freeing up these officers would mean they could be deployed on at least a
basic follow-up to a report of a burglary or theft, as it is known that
once burgled, the chances of a repeat of the crime is a staggering 25%, and effective action can be taken to mitigate against this, especially when
police officer offers advice on countermeasures. At present, conviction
rates are very low.

It’s time the police stopped pussy-footing about with non-crimes like ‘close passes’ and tackled real issues.

Free up those officers! Bang up the burglars!

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On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 4:28:04 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: A police spokeswoman said squirting water over other motorists could potentially cause a vehicle to crash.

But followers of the PSNI's North Coast Facebook page said the officers involved "should catch themselves on" and "concentrate on catching real criminals". ENDS

Ah yes - the usual bleating of the criminal driver:

"HAVEN'T YOU GOT ANYTHING BETTER TO DO?"

You mean doing their jobs?

Yes. It would be an assault and battery, most likely. Also, if the person should, in an effort to get away from you, fall and get hurt, or should the water be cold and the person have a heart attack, or whatever, you could be charged with a greater
offence. Let's say the person who had a heart attack dies.

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YOUNG pranksters are putting lives at risk by using toy water pistols to squirt or throw water at motorists during the current heatwave.

Police in Burnley say motorists are being targeted by gangs of yobs who find it amusing to attack people while driving.

Today officers urged youngsters to heed warnings in a bid to prevent a serious road accident from happening.

They fear shocked motorists could cause a serious accident after getting a sudden drenching.

And civic leaders today branded the yobs "mindless" and encouraged people with information about any of the offences to contact police.

In the latest incident, a woman was driving along Dane Street in Burnley on Wednesday at 4.30pm when pranksters threw a bucket of water through the driver's side window.

Police said the shock caused her to swerve and narrowly avoided causing an accident.

ergeant Vicki Haworth, of Burnley Police, said: "We have had a number of incidents where groups of youths are driving around in vehicles and squirting people with water pistols and powerful water soakers.

"That, in itself, although annoying, wouldn't necessarily cause anyone any harm.

"It's not only inconsiderate doing it to people who are driving cars with their windows down but it's also very dangerous because people have had to swerve and we are lucky that there hasn't been any serious collisions or anyone knocked over because of
this foolish behaviour.

"People think it's amusing but the reality of it is that it is extremely dangerous and we want people to consider other road users' safety because this is happening all over Burnley."

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On 21/06/2023 05:41 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 4:28:04 PM UTC+1, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: A police spokeswoman said squirting water over other motorists could potentially cause a vehicle to crash.
But followers of the PSNI's North Coast Facebook page said the officers involved "should catch themselves on" and "concentrate on catching real criminals". ENDS
Ah yes - the usual bleating of the criminal driver:
"HAVEN'T YOU GOT ANYTHING BETTER TO DO?"
You mean doing their jobs?

Yes. It would be an assault and battery, most likely. Also, if the person should, in an effort to get away from you, fall and get hurt, or should the water be cold and the person have a heart attack, or whatever, you could be charged with a greater

offence. Let's say the person who had a heart attack dies.

...all because a vulnerable child squirted a humourless cycling-chav
with a water pistol...

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Pranksters were reported to police after driving around shooting city centre revellers with a water pistol.

The jokers were spotted hosing down passers-by on Deansgate in the early hours of this morning.

Officers told the culprits to ‘grow up’ after being alerted by a member of the public before posting the incident on Twitter.

GMP city centre’s division tweeted: “Call came in at 2am last night about adult male passengers in a vehicle squirting water pistols at passers by #growup.”

And sergeant Anna Keese, from the city centre policing team, said: “We received a call from a concerned member of the public who did not use the emergency 999 number.

“It’s one of those things that could be a nuisance and if the water did hit someone then it could be classed as a common assault.”

And it isn’t the first time this year that officers have been called after pranksters targeted the public with a water gun.

In May passengers in a blue people carrier drove around Manchester’s Northern Quarter shooting Bank Holiday revellers with water.

After that incident police posted that the offenders could have been arrested on suspicion of assault or public order offences.

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Mason seems to have taken to heart the prank by a disadvantaged child on a special-day charity outing.

Yet when it came to a cyclist kicking a young girl to the ground because
she was tardy getting out of his way, Mason was very, very quiet.

<https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/cyclist-who-kicked-little-girl-23243631>

Shame on him.

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Pranksters were reported to police after driving around shooting city
centre revellers with a water pistol.

The jokers were spotted hosing down passers-by on Deansgate in the early hours of this morning.

Officers told the culprits to ‘grow up’ after being alerted by a member of the public before posting the incident on Twitter.

GMP city centre’s division tweeted: “Call came in at 2am last night about adult male passengers in a vehicle squirting water pistols at passers by #growup.”

And sergeant Anna Keese, from the city centre policing team, said: “We received a call from a concerned member of the public who did not use the emergency 999 number.

“It’s one of those things that could be a nuisance and if the water did hit someone then it could be classed as a common assault.”

And it isn’t the first time this year that officers have been called
after pranksters targeted the public with a water gun.

In May passengers in a blue people carrier drove around Manchester’s Northern Quarter shooting Bank Holiday revellers with water.

After that incident police posted that the offenders could have been
arrested on suspicion of assault or public order offences.

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Spike

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POLICE have issued a warning to the public after reports of a person carrying a firearm in Poole town centre proved to be an individual with a water pistol.

Officers seized the imitation firearm which looked “realistic” on Saturday, April 1.

Following the incident, police posted on social media around the concerns such incidents can cause.

A Poole Police spokesperson said: “An imitation firearm was seized In Poole Town today following reports of an individual carrying a firearm.

"Thankfully it turned out to be a water pistol however the gun still looked realistic, especially from afar.

“Although it is not black, nowadays pistols can be made in a variety of different colours which includes pink and white.

“Water guns might provide some entertainment, however realistic ones of this nature could be perceived as a real firearm when carried in public spaces.”

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Police confuse a brightly-coloured plastic toy with a gun. Again.

It could have been worse…police once shot dead a man with a gun that turned out to be a mobile phone. I’m not sure how many gun-shaped mobile phones
were on the market at the time, but I guess they proved unpopular.

Then there’s the case of a man shot dead for carrying a table-leg in a plastic bag, based on an unverified anonymous tip from someone in a pub,
that proved to be wrong in every respect.

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

POLICE have issued a warning to the public after reports of a person carrying a firearm in Poole town centre proved to be an individual with a water pistol.

Officers seized the imitation firearm which looked “realistic” on Saturday, April 1.

Following the incident, police posted on social media around the concerns such incidents can cause.

A Poole Police spokesperson said: “An imitation firearm was seized In
Poole Town today following reports of an individual carrying a firearm.

"Thankfully it turned out to be a water pistol however the gun still
looked realistic, especially from afar.

“Although it is not black, nowadays pistols can be made in a variety of different colours which includes pink and white.

“Water guns might provide some entertainment, however realistic ones of this nature could be perceived as a real firearm when carried in public spaces.”

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For most Londoners, the idea of a stranger stalking them at their home and work, maybe while carrying a gun, is the ultimate nightmare. But as of today, around 150 people in the city have volunteered to endure just that - all in the name of fun.

Police have warned players taking part in the first British version of 'Street Wars' - a role-playing game in which participants hunt down and "assassinate" targets while themselves being targeted by others - could spark panic in a city already jittery
about possible terrorist attacks.

In a stern statement, British transport police (BTP) labelled participants "irresponsible", saying the sight of someone brandishing a water pistol - the weapon of choice in Street Wars - could cause "genuine fear".

Street Wars, described as a "three-week long, 24/7, watergun assassination tournament", began in the US in 2004, with the London event being the seventh in all, and the second in Europe.

Those who signed up received a manila envelope earlier this week containing a picture of their first "target", along with details such as their home and business addresses.

Working alone or as part of a team, players must "kill" a target by squirting them with a water pistol or soaking them with a water balloon. A successful hit means a player inherits their victim's target, with the eventual winner being whoever retrieves
the envelope containing their own details.

"You can hunt your target down any way you see fit; you can pose as a delivery person and jack them when they open the door, disguise yourself and take them out on the street, etc," the Street Wars website says.

Certain areas are considered "safe zones", such as a player's workplace, buses and bars - but not tube stations.

The BTP warned players that London's public transport network was "not the place for this sort of activity".

"Those thinking of taking part should consider that they may be committing criminal offences and are putting themselves and others in danger," said Superintendent Bob Pacey.

"The sight of people carrying what appears to a be a firearm on the London Underground system, one year after the tragic events of July 2005 will cause passengers and staff genuine fear," the force warned.

"Calls to the police may lead to disruption to services and the deployment of armed officers. Any offences committed will be treated seriously."

Scotland Yard added its own caution, saying some water pistols can "look very real", potentially prompting a major alert.

Despite this hint of real danger, the rules of Street Wars make it plain that this is a far cry from the real world of crime.

For example, would-be assassins are informed when their target leaves London, and players are urged not to spend too long away from the capital.

"If you need to run some business trips out of town for a few days this is fine," the website notes.

"But if you need to be going for a whole week during the game, then you would be disqualified."

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

For most Londoners, the idea of a stranger stalking them at their home
and work, maybe while carrying a gun, is the ultimate nightmare. But as
of today, around 150 people in the city have volunteered to endure just
that - all in the name of fun.

Police have warned players taking part in the first British version of 'Street Wars' - a role-playing game in which participants hunt down and "assassinate" targets while themselves being targeted by others - could
spark panic in a city already jittery about possible terrorist attacks.

Proof if any were ever needed of London spiralling into an unreality all of
its own. Londoners are welcome to the city.

In a stern statement, British transport police (BTP) labelled
participants "irresponsible", saying the sight of someone brandishing a
water pistol - the weapon of choice in Street Wars - could cause "genuine fear".

Street Wars, described as a "three-week long, 24/7, watergun
assassination tournament", began in the US in 2004, with the London event being the seventh in all, and the second in Europe.

Those who signed up received a manila envelope earlier this week
containing a picture of their first "target", along with details such as their home and business addresses.

Working alone or as part of a team, players must "kill" a target by
squirting them with a water pistol or soaking them with a water balloon.
A successful hit means a player inherits their victim's target, with the eventual winner being whoever retrieves the envelope containing their own details.

"You can hunt your target down any way you see fit; you can pose as a delivery person and jack them when they open the door, disguise yourself
and take them out on the street, etc," the Street Wars website says.

Certain areas are considered "safe zones", such as a player's workplace, buses and bars - but not tube stations.

The BTP warned players that London's public transport network was "not
the place for this sort of activity".

"Those thinking of taking part should consider that they may be
committing criminal offences and are putting themselves and others in danger," said Superintendent Bob Pacey.

"The sight of people carrying what appears to a be a firearm on the
London Underground system, one year after the tragic events of July 2005
will cause passengers and staff genuine fear," the force warned.

"Calls to the police may lead to disruption to services and the
deployment of armed officers. Any offences committed will be treated seriously."

Scotland Yard added its own caution, saying some water pistols can "look
very real", potentially prompting a major alert.

Despite this hint of real danger, the rules of Street Wars make it plain
that this is a far cry from the real world of crime.

For example, would-be assassins are informed when their target leaves
London, and players are urged not to spend too long away from the capital.

"If you need to run some business trips out of town for a few days this
is fine," the website notes.

"But if you need to be going for a whole week during the game, then you
would be disqualified."

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Police today raised concerns over a new water gun 'craze' in which yobs target bystanders from passing cars.

The warning came a week after one 'shooting' sparked an axe attack in a Bradford supermarket car park.

Detectives renewed their appeal for information about the vicious assault at the Morrisons supermarket in Girlington, which left a father-of-two with more than 20 stitches in his arm.

Officers have received a string of complaints over recent weeks from people who had been left soaked by the high-powered water guns fired from vehicles.

Chief Inspector David Young, of Bradford South Police, said: "This is socially a great annoyance and can cause distress and injury.

"In some incidents it has the potential to be very dangerous. If water is fired at another driver it could cause them to be distracted and lead to an accident."

Chief Insp Young added: "These incidents can be really upsetting for those involved, particular for someone who is elderly.

"We would strongly dissuade people from taking part in this type of behaviour."

Those caught could be charged with public order or assault offences.

The Telegraph & Argus reported how in the aftermath of Dexter Coleman's murder - in which the 26-year-old student was shot in the back outside the Young Lion Caf, Manningham - youths had pulled up in cars and fired water guns at those gathered outside.

Detectives today renewed an appeal for help in tracing an axe attacker who injured a father-of-two in a supermarket car park following a water gun incident.

They said the attack occurred outside the Morrisons supermarket last Friday at 7pm.

As the 29-year-old drove into the car park, his vehicle was squirted with water from a high-powered water pistol, some of which hit his children.

He got out of the car and went to remonstrate with the driver, in a grey Honda Integra, who he believed to have been the culprit.

Detective Constable Steve Parkin, of Bradford North CID, said: "There was a confrontation in the car park and the man was struck on the arm with an axe, causing a serious wound."

He said the victim was taken to Bradford Royal Infirmary where he received more than 20 stitches to the gash on his arm. The victim, who is Asian, has since returned home to his family.

Det Con Parkin said it is thought that other bystanders are thought to have been squirted close to the supermarket before the attack and he appealed for these to come forward.

"We would also like to hear from anyone in the car park with any information at all about this incident. They might think it is something insignificant but it could be important to the inquiry."

The attacker is described as Asian, around 5ft 10ins tall, of medium build with short black hair and a beard. He is thought to be aged between 24 and 27 and wearing a blue and cream horizontally striped jumper and black jeans.

Anyone with information should contact Bradford North Police on (01274) 376059.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Police today raised concerns over a new water gun 'craze' in which yobs target bystanders from passing cars.

People need to start employing BWCs and uploading the videos to the police ‘report a water pistol attack’ websites.

The police bin 3000 burglary report every day, but find the time to pursue drivers who don’t crash into cyclists, so I’d expect them to get on top of this latest craze pretty quickly.

The warning came a week after one 'shooting' sparked an axe attack in a Bradford supermarket car park.

Detectives renewed their appeal for information about the vicious assault
at the Morrisons supermarket in Girlington, which left a father-of-two
with more than 20 stitches in his arm.

Officers have received a string of complaints over recent weeks from
people who had been left soaked by the high-powered water guns fired from vehicles.

Chief Inspector David Young, of Bradford South Police, said: "This is socially a great annoyance and can cause distress and injury.

"In some incidents it has the potential to be very dangerous. If water is fired at another driver it could cause them to be distracted and lead to an accident."

Chief Insp Young added: "These incidents can be really upsetting for
those involved, particular for someone who is elderly.

"We would strongly dissuade people from taking part in this type of behaviour."

Those caught could be charged with public order or assault offences.

The Telegraph & Argus reported how in the aftermath of Dexter Coleman's murder - in which the 26-year-old student was shot in the back outside
the Young Lion Caf, Manningham - youths had pulled up in cars and fired
water guns at those gathered outside.

Detectives today renewed an appeal for help in tracing an axe attacker
who injured a father-of-two in a supermarket car park following a water gun incident.

They said the attack occurred outside the Morrisons supermarket last Friday at 7pm.

As the 29-year-old drove into the car park, his vehicle was squirted with water from a high-powered water pistol, some of which hit his children.

He got out of the car and went to remonstrate with the driver, in a grey Honda Integra, who he believed to have been the culprit.

Detective Constable Steve Parkin, of Bradford North CID, said: "There was
a confrontation in the car park and the man was struck on the arm with an axe, causing a serious wound."

He said the victim was taken to Bradford Royal Infirmary where he
received more than 20 stitches to the gash on his arm. The victim, who is Asian, has since returned home to his family.

Det Con Parkin said it is thought that other bystanders are thought to
have been squirted close to the supermarket before the attack and he
appealed for these to come forward.

"We would also like to hear from anyone in the car park with any
information at all about this incident. They might think it is something insignificant but it could be important to the inquiry."

The attacker is described as Asian, around 5ft 10ins tall, of medium
build with short black hair and a beard. He is thought to be aged between
24 and 27 and wearing a blue and cream horizontally striped jumper and black jeans.

Anyone with information should contact Bradford North Police on (01274) 376059.

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On 22/06/2023 05:56 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Pranksters were reported to police after driving around shooting city centre revellers with a water pistol.

"Shooting"?

Are you quite alright in the head (rhetorical - we all know that the
answer is "No").

The jokers were spotted hosing down passers-by on Deansgate in the early hours of this morning.
Officers told the culprits to ‘grow up’ after being alerted by a member of the public before posting the incident on Twitter.

A common-sense remedy for the "problem".

GMP city centre’s division tweeted: “Call came in at 2am last night about adult male passengers in a vehicle squirting water pistols at passers by #growup.”
And sergeant Anna Keese, from the city centre policing team, said: “We received a call from a concerned member of the public who did not use the emergency 999 number.
“It’s one of those things that could be a nuisance and if the water did hit someone then it could be classed as a common assault.”
And it isn’t the first time this year that officers have been called after pranksters targeted the public with a water gun.
In May passengers in a blue people carrier drove around Manchester’s Northern Quarter shooting Bank Holiday revellers with water.
After that incident police posted that the offenders could have been arrested on suspicion of assault or public order offences.

How many disabled nine-year-olds have they arrested?


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On 22/06/2023 08:25 am, Spike wrote:

Mason seems to have taken to heart the prank by a disadvantaged child on a special-day charity outing.

Yet when it came to a cyclist kicking a young girl to the ground because
she was tardy getting out of his way, Mason was very, very quiet.

He's a sociopath.

[That's four syllables. He'll have to look it up.]

<https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/cyclist-who-kicked-little-girl-23243631>

Shame on him.

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Pranksters were reported to police after driving around shooting city
centre revellers with a water pistol.

The jokers were spotted hosing down passers-by on Deansgate in the early
hours of this morning.

Officers told the culprits to ‘grow up’ after being alerted by a member >> of the public before posting the incident on Twitter.

GMP city centre’s division tweeted: “Call came in at 2am last night about
adult male passengers in a vehicle squirting water pistols at passers by #growup.”

And sergeant Anna Keese, from the city centre policing team, said: “We
received a call from a concerned member of the public who did not use the
emergency 999 number.

“It’s one of those things that could be a nuisance and if the water did >> hit someone then it could be classed as a common assault.”

And it isn’t the first time this year that officers have been called
after pranksters targeted the public with a water gun.

In May passengers in a blue people carrier drove around Manchester’s
Northern Quarter shooting Bank Holiday revellers with water.

After that incident police posted that the offenders could have been
arrested on suspicion of assault or public order offences.

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A MAN who entered a flat sprayed three women using a water pistol after a verbal altercation.

Emergency services were called to Lower Hall Street in St Helens town centre on Thursday night (June 2).

Police say it was reported a man had entered a property and used a water pistol to spray an unknown substance at three women following a dispute.

A 48-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of burglary and assualt in connection with the incident. A Merseyside Police spokesman said: "We arrested a man following an incident in St Helens last night (Thursday, June 2).

"Just before 10.20pm, it was reported a man entered a flat on Lower Hall Street and sprayed three women inside with an unknown liquid using a water pistol, following a verbal altercation outside.

"The women were checked over by North West Ambulance Service and did not require treatment. Tests to establish the substance have proved inconclusive at this stage."

He added: "A 48-year-old man from St Helens was arrested on suspicion of burglary and assault.

"He has been conditionally bailed while enquiries to establish the full circumstances continue.

"Officers have conducted house to house inquiries and are exploring CCTV opportunities in the area."

Meanwhile, a Merseyside Fire and Rescue Services spokeswoman said: "We had one fire engine at the scene.

"We were called by police at 10.25pm and on scene at 10.29pm. We were on scene until 11.04pm. North West Ambulance Service also attended and assessed three people at the scene but they did not require hospital treatment."

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This seems far removed from a prank by a disadvantaged child being taken on
a charitable special day’s outing.

Is there any particular to reason to post it?

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A MAN who entered a flat sprayed three women using a water pistol after
a verbal altercation.

Emergency services were called to Lower Hall Street in St Helens town
centre on Thursday night (June 2).

Police say it was reported a man had entered a property and used a water pistol to spray an unknown substance at three women following a dispute.

A 48-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of burglary and assualt
in connection with the incident. A Merseyside Police spokesman said: "We arrested a man following an incident in St Helens last night (Thursday, June 2).

"Just before 10.20pm, it was reported a man entered a flat on Lower Hall Street and sprayed three women inside with an unknown liquid using a
water pistol, following a verbal altercation outside.

"The women were checked over by North West Ambulance Service and did not require treatment. Tests to establish the substance have proved
inconclusive at this stage."

He added: "A 48-year-old man from St Helens was arrested on suspicion of burglary and assault.

"He has been conditionally bailed while enquiries to establish the full circumstances continue.

"Officers have conducted house to house inquiries and are exploring CCTV opportunities in the area."

Meanwhile, a Merseyside Fire and Rescue Services spokeswoman said: "We
had one fire engine at the scene.

"We were called by police at 10.25pm and on scene at 10.29pm. We were on scene until 11.04pm. North West Ambulance Service also attended and
assessed three people at the scene but they did not require hospital treatment."

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Spike

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QUOTE:
He added: "A 48-year-old man from St Helens was arrested on suspicion of burglary and assault. ENDS

See - it's an assault, not a jolly jape.

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A “NIGHTMARE neighbour” has dodged jail after she stormed into a grandmother’s house and savagely beat her after being accidentally sprayed with a water pistol.

Marina Bolton, 57, admitted assault and criminal damage after attacking nurse Jo Bates in front of her grandkids.

The fight erupted in April this year when Mrs Bates’ grandson Matthew, four, decided to water her roses and sprayed a water pistol over the fence in Southend-on-Sea, Essex.

Furious Bolton burst into her house and launched into savage 10 minute attack on Mrs Bates, who also runs Southend Homeless Hub, leaving her battered and bruised.

She said: “When I moved in 12 years ago there were no problems but she has turned into a nightmare neighbour.

“I had my grandchildren here so I went to the shops and bought the boys some water pistols. I put some music on and they were playing in the garden.

“Matthew decided to water the roses and some of the water went over the fence. He is only four years old. There was just the most horrendous shouting and screaming.

“The next thing I knew she was in my house. I was kicked and punched for ten minutes.

“I managed to get to the phone and dial 999. I couldn’t speak to the operator but they heard the tail end of the assault.”

Mrs Bolton added that Matthew and Bradley, seven, are still traumatised by the attack.

She said: “They are not used to seeing violence.

“Their parents don’t even shout at them, they will sit down and talk. So it was very distressing for them.

“Bradley still can’t be left on his own.”

She also alleged there was bad blood between the pair because Bolton had planted “huge” eucalyptus trees in her garden, allowed her Great Dane to damage the fence, and said her neighbour’s CCTV cameras point into her garden.

Bolton admitted assault by beating and causing £550 of damage to a wooden side gate, a speaker and an internal door.

She was handed a four-week prison sentence, suspended for 12 months, at Southend Magistrates’ Court and ordered to pay £1,220 compensation.

Magistrates said the incident was a “sustained assault” and the forced entry showed “pre-meditation”.

In mitigation, Bolton, a self-employed cleaner, argued that she had poor mental health and was provoked by the child’s use of the water pistol.

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QUOTE:
He added: "A 48-year-old man from St Helens was arrested on suspicion of
burglary and assault. ENDS

See - it's an assault, not a jolly jape.

Not by a child. See you’re original post.

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Spike <Aero.Spike@mail.invalid> wrote:

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

QUOTE:
He added: "A 48-year-old man from St Helens was arrested on suspicion of >>> burglary and assault. ENDS

See - it's an assault, not a jolly jape.

Not by a child. See you’re original post.

“…your…”

Spell checkers, eh?

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Where was the Edinburgh cyclist in all this?


swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A “NIGHTMARE neighbour” has dodged jail after she stormed into a grandmother’s house and savagely beat her after being accidentally
sprayed with a water pistol.

Marina Bolton, 57, admitted assault and criminal damage after attacking
nurse Jo Bates in front of her grandkids.

The fight erupted in April this year when Mrs Bates’ grandson Matthew, four, decided to water her roses and sprayed a water pistol over the
fence in Southend-on-Sea, Essex.

Furious Bolton burst into her house and launched into savage 10 minute
attack on Mrs Bates, who also runs Southend Homeless Hub, leaving her battered and bruised.

She said: “When I moved in 12 years ago there were no problems but she
has turned into a nightmare neighbour.

“I had my grandchildren here so I went to the shops and bought the boys some water pistols. I put some music on and they were playing in the garden.

“Matthew decided to water the roses and some of the water went over the fence. He is only four years old. There was just the most horrendous
shouting and screaming.

“The next thing I knew she was in my house. I was kicked and punched for ten minutes.

“I managed to get to the phone and dial 999. I couldn’t speak to the operator but they heard the tail end of the assault.”

Mrs Bolton added that Matthew and Bradley, seven, are still traumatised by the attack.

She said: “They are not used to seeing violence.

“Their parents don’t even shout at them, they will sit down and talk. So it was very distressing for them.

“Bradley still can’t be left on his own.”

She also alleged there was bad blood between the pair because Bolton had planted “huge” eucalyptus trees in her garden, allowed her Great Dane to damage the fence, and said her neighbour’s CCTV cameras point into her garden.

Bolton admitted assault by beating and causing £550 of damage to a wooden side gate, a speaker and an internal door.

She was handed a four-week prison sentence, suspended for 12 months, at Southend Magistrates’ Court and ordered to pay £1,220 compensation.

Magistrates said the incident was a “sustained assault” and the forced entry showed “pre-meditation”.

In mitigation, Bolton, a self-employed cleaner, argued that she had poor mental health and was provoked by the child’s use of the water pistol.

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On 22/06/2023 04:37 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A MAN who entered a flat sprayed three women using a water pistol after a verbal altercation.
Emergency services were called to Lower Hall Street in St Helens town centre on Thursday night (June 2).
Police say it was reported a man had entered a property and used a water pistol to spray an unknown substance at three women following a dispute.

You don't suppose it was... water... do you?

A 48-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of burglary and assualt in connection with the incident. A Merseyside Police spokesman said: "We arrested a man following an incident in St Helens last night (Thursday, June 2).
"Just before 10.20pm, it was reported a man entered a flat on Lower Hall Street and sprayed three women inside with an unknown liquid using a water pistol, following a verbal altercation outside.
"The women were checked over by North West Ambulance Service and did not require treatment. Tests to establish the substance have proved inconclusive at this stage."
He added: "A 48-year-old man from St Helens was arrested on suspicion of burglary and assault.

Oh... burglary and assault...

"He has been conditionally bailed while enquiries to establish the full circumstances continue.
"Officers have conducted house to house inquiries and are exploring CCTV opportunities in the area."
Meanwhile, a Merseyside Fire and Rescue Services spokeswoman said: "We had one fire engine at the scene.
"We were called by police at 10.25pm and on scene at 10.29pm. We were on scene until 11.04pm. North West Ambulance Service also attended and assessed three people at the scene but they did not require hospital treatment."

They DIDN'T require hospital treatment? Not even after being squirted
with an unknown substance?

Gosh...

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On 22/06/2023 06:37 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A “NIGHTMARE neighbour” has dodged jail after she stormed into a grandmother’s house and savagely beat her after being accidentally sprayed with a water pistol.
Marina Bolton, 57, admitted assault and criminal damage after attacking nurse Jo Bates in front of her grandkids.
The fight erupted in April this year when Mrs Bates’ grandson Matthew, four, decided to water her roses and sprayed a water pistol over the fence in Southend-on-Sea, Essex.
Furious Bolton burst into her house and launched into savage 10 minute attack on Mrs Bates, who also runs Southend Homeless Hub, leaving her battered and bruised.
She said: “When I moved in 12 years ago there were no problems but she has turned into a nightmare neighbour.
“I had my grandchildren here so I went to the shops and bought the boys some water pistols. I put some music on and they were playing in the garden.
“Matthew decided to water the roses and some of the water went over the fence. He is only four years old. There was just the most horrendous shouting and screaming.
“The next thing I knew she was in my house. I was kicked and punched for ten minutes.
“I managed to get to the phone and dial 999. I couldn’t speak to the operator but they heard the tail end of the assault.”
Mrs Bolton added that Matthew and Bradley, seven, are still traumatised by the attack.
She said: “They are not used to seeing violence.
“Their parents don’t even shout at them, they will sit down and talk. So it was very distressing for them.
“Bradley still can’t be left on his own.”
She also alleged there was bad blood between the pair because Bolton had planted “huge” eucalyptus trees in her garden, allowed her Great Dane to damage the fence, and said her neighbour’s CCTV cameras point into her garden.
Bolton admitted assault by beating and causing £550 of damage to a wooden side gate, a speaker and an internal door.
She was handed a four-week prison sentence, suspended for 12 months, at Southend Magistrates’ Court and ordered to pay £1,220 compensation.
Magistrates said the incident was a “sustained assault” and the forced entry showed “pre-meditation”.
In mitigation, Bolton, a self-employed cleaner, argued that she had poor mental health and was provoked by the child’s use of the water pistol.

Whose side are you on?

[A] The violent "nightmare neighbour" aggressor who got the four-week suspended?

[And with an attitude like that, she's GOT to be a cyclist as well.]

[B] The innocent victim, battered and bruised?

[C] The traumatised children, aged four and seven?

No need to answer... we all know whose side you're on.

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A BUSINESSMAN hurled a barrage of foul-mouthed abuse at a female traffic warden before squirting her with a water pistol.

Cumbria County Council employee Amy Harrison wiped tears away from her face as she described to magistrates how she was left ‘humiliated and embarrassed’ by the incident.

She said that 53-year-old Timothy Coupe used foul and abusive language before he sprayed her in the face and chest with water from the six-inch toy pistol – causing her shirt to become see-through.

The two became embroiled in a row over a £35 parking ticket, a court heard.

Coupe, of Rivers View, Clappersgate, near Ambleside, denied using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour to cause harassment, alarm or distress.

He said he was a ‘gentleman who went to public school’ and would ‘never use those words’.

He also rebuffed claims he squirted the water pistol and described Miss Harrison’s version of events as ‘absolutely fictitious’.

But the divorcee was found guilty by magistrates and told to pay more than £2,000 in fines, costs and compensation.

Cumbria County Council’s Cabinet member responsible for highways, Cllr Keith Little, described the incident as ‘unacceptable and outrageous’.

“Be they parking enforcement officers, social workers or someone working in a library, there is a boundary which must not be crossed,” he said.

Stephanie Thomas, UNISON North West Regional Manager said: “Traffic wardens work hard to help keep the roads safe and traffic moving. They have to brave the elements every day, but they shouldn’t have to brave abuse.”

The incident unfolded on the afternoon of June 18 on Compston Road in Ambleside when the on-duty warden approached Coupe’s Land Rover which was parked in a loading bay outside Boots pharmacy.

When she told him it was illegal to park there he put his finger to his mouth and gestured at her to ‘shush’, South Lakeland Magistrates Court heard.

Miss Harrison then walked towards the front of his car to note down the registration number.

When she told him to expect his ticket in the post he used foul and abusive language to describe her appearance.

She recalled how Coupe pulled out the water pistol, said to be in his car to help train his Newfoundland puppy which was sat in the boot and barked when approached by strangers.

“I felt humiliated and embarrassed,” she said. “I still do now. I can’t tell you how distressing it is to have a grown man shout those words at you. I was wearing a white shirt and it went see through in the middle of Ambleside.”

The court heard Miss Harrison had a body camera attached to her but recording of the incident failed because there was not enough memory on the device.

Coupe then took to the witness stand and told how he felt dizzy so decided to pull over for a moment.
As he did a call came through on his mobile phone. “I gestured in a polite manner I was only going to be a minute and she walked away from my car,” he said.

“After I finished my call I decided to pull off. I then heard Amy saying I’ll send you this in the post as she was waving her machine at me. I was taken aback and shocked because I thought she understood my gesture.”

When asked by John Appleby, prosecuting, why Miss Harrison would lie, Coupe replied: “I don’t know why she has felt the need to do this unless she felt undermined by me in a big posh Land Rover.”

He said the call lasted three minutes at the most but the court also heard from Josef Oxenhandler, who was on the other end of the phone call, who said it lasted around 10 minutes.

Returning a guilty verdict, chair of magistrates Anne Howson said: “Miss Harrison was a credible witness whose recollection of the incident, even today, caused distress.

“Her account is clear and detailed when she described how the water hit her - making her top see through - and how embarrassed she was by this.”

Coupe, who has no previous convictions, was fined £1,000, made to pay £620 costs and a £100 victim surcharge. He was also ordered to pay £400 compensation to Miss Harrison.

Suzie Kavanagh, defending Coupe, said: “He is recently divorced and is currently in a poor financial situation. He currently earns around £18,800 per year.”

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On 23/06/2023 06:42 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

A BUSINESSMAN hurled a barrage of foul-mouthed abuse at a female traffic warden before squirting her with a water pistol.
Cumbria County Council employee Amy Harrison wiped tears away from her face as she described to magistrates how she was left ‘humiliated and embarrassed’ by the incident.

That's a surprise. As opposed to chav-cyclists, I had never noticed that traffic wardens appeared to be frightened of water. Or soap.

She said that 53-year-old Timothy Coupe used foul and abusive language before he sprayed her in the face and chest with water from the six-inch toy pistol – causing her shirt to become see-through.
The two became embroiled in a row over a £35 parking ticket, a court heard.
Coupe, of Rivers View, Clappersgate, near Ambleside, denied using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour to cause harassment, alarm or distress.
He said he was a ‘gentleman who went to public school’ and would ‘never use those words’.
He also rebuffed claims he squirted the water pistol and described Miss Harrison’s version of events as ‘absolutely fictitious’.
But the divorcee

What does that have to do with the price of fish?

Why not quote his vital statistics as well?

was found guilty by magistrates and told to pay more than £2,000 in fines, costs and compensation.
Cumbria County Council’s Cabinet member responsible for highways, Cllr Keith Little, described the incident as ‘unacceptable and outrageous’.
“Be they parking enforcement officers, social workers or someone working in a library, there is a boundary which must not be crossed,” he said.
Stephanie Thomas, UNISON North West Regional Manager said: “Traffic wardens work hard to help keep the roads safe and traffic moving. They have to brave the elements every day, but they shouldn’t have to brave abuse.”
The incident unfolded on the afternoon of June 18 on Compston Road in Ambleside when the on-duty warden approached Coupe’s Land Rover which was parked in a loading bay outside Boots pharmacy.
When she told him it was illegal to park there he put his finger to his mouth and gestured at her to ‘shush’, South Lakeland Magistrates Court heard.
Miss Harrison then walked towards the front of his car to note down the registration number.
When she told him to expect his ticket in the post he used foul and abusive language to describe her appearance.
She recalled how Coupe pulled out the water pistol, said to be in his car to help train his Newfoundland puppy which was sat in the boot and barked when approached by strangers.
“I felt humiliated and embarrassed,” she said. “I still do now. I can’t tell you how distressing it is to have a grown man shout those words at you. I was wearing a white shirt and it went see through in the middle of Ambleside.”
The court heard Miss Harrison had a body camera attached to her but recording of the incident failed because there was not enough memory on the device.

She isn't a cyclist in her spare time, is she?

Coupe then took to the witness stand and told how he felt dizzy so decided to pull over for a moment.
As he did a call came through on his mobile phone. “I gestured in a polite manner I was only going to be a minute and she walked away from my car,” he said.
“After I finished my call I decided to pull off. I then heard Amy saying I’ll send you this in the post as she was waving her machine at me. I was taken aback and shocked because I thought she understood my gesture.”
When asked by John Appleby, prosecuting, why Miss Harrison would lie, Coupe replied: “I don’t know why she has felt the need to do this unless she felt undermined by me in a big posh Land Rover.”
He said the call lasted three minutes at the most but the court also heard from Josef Oxenhandler, who was on the other end of the phone call, who said it lasted around 10 minutes.
Returning a guilty verdict, chair of magistrates Anne Howson said: “Miss Harrison was a credible witness whose recollection of the incident, even today, caused distress.
“Her account is clear and detailed when she described how the water hit her - making her top see through - and how embarrassed she was by this.”
Coupe, who has no previous convictions, was fined £1,000, made to pay £620 costs and a £100 victim surcharge. He was also ordered to pay £400 compensation to Miss Harrison.
Suzie Kavanagh, defending Coupe, said: “He is recently divorced and is currently in a poor financial situation. He currently earns around £18,800 per year.”

Hmmm... We have a bit more income than that and don't have a "big posh
Land Rover".

He ought to run a home-economics course.

Now... where was the small child in all this?

Or, come to that, the chav on the bike?

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And the relevance of this to a disadvantaged child’s charity-sponsored day out is what?

swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A BUSINESSMAN hurled a barrage of foul-mouthed abuse at a female traffic warden before squirting her with a water pistol.

Cumbria County Council employee Amy Harrison wiped tears away from her
face as she described to magistrates how she was left ‘humiliated and embarrassed’ by the incident.

She said that 53-year-old Timothy Coupe used foul and abusive language
before he sprayed her in the face and chest with water from the six-inch
toy pistol – causing her shirt to become see-through.

The two became embroiled in a row over a £35 parking ticket, a court heard.

Coupe, of Rivers View, Clappersgate, near Ambleside, denied using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour to cause harassment, alarm or distress.

He said he was a ‘gentleman who went to public school’ and would ‘never use those words’.

He also rebuffed claims he squirted the water pistol and described Miss Harrison’s version of events as ‘absolutely fictitious’.

But the divorcee was found guilty by magistrates and told to pay more
than £2,000 in fines, costs and compensation.

Cumbria County Council’s Cabinet member responsible for highways, Cllr Keith Little, described the incident as ‘unacceptable and outrageous’.

“Be they parking enforcement officers, social workers or someone working
in a library, there is a boundary which must not be crossed,” he said.

Stephanie Thomas, UNISON North West Regional Manager said: “Traffic
wardens work hard to help keep the roads safe and traffic moving. They
have to brave the elements every day, but they shouldn’t have to brave abuse.”

The incident unfolded on the afternoon of June 18 on Compston Road in Ambleside when the on-duty warden approached Coupe’s Land Rover which was parked in a loading bay outside Boots pharmacy.

When she told him it was illegal to park there he put his finger to his
mouth and gestured at her to ‘shush’, South Lakeland Magistrates Court heard.

Miss Harrison then walked towards the front of his car to note down the registration number.

When she told him to expect his ticket in the post he used foul and
abusive language to describe her appearance.

She recalled how Coupe pulled out the water pistol, said to be in his car
to help train his Newfoundland puppy which was sat in the boot and barked when approached by strangers.

“I felt humiliated and embarrassed,” she said. “I still do now. I can’t
tell you how distressing it is to have a grown man shout those words at
you. I was wearing a white shirt and it went see through in the middle of Ambleside.”

The court heard Miss Harrison had a body camera attached to her but
recording of the incident failed because there was not enough memory on the device.

Coupe then took to the witness stand and told how he felt dizzy so
decided to pull over for a moment.
As he did a call came through on his mobile phone. “I gestured in a
polite manner I was only going to be a minute and she walked away from my car,” he said.

“After I finished my call I decided to pull off. I then heard Amy saying I’ll send you this in the post as she was waving her machine at me. I was taken aback and shocked because I thought she understood my gesture.”

When asked by John Appleby, prosecuting, why Miss Harrison would lie,
Coupe replied: “I don’t know why she has felt the need to do this unless she felt undermined by me in a big posh Land Rover.”

He said the call lasted three minutes at the most but the court also
heard from Josef Oxenhandler, who was on the other end of the phone call,
who said it lasted around 10 minutes.

Returning a guilty verdict, chair of magistrates Anne Howson said: “Miss Harrison was a credible witness whose recollection of the incident, even today, caused distress.

“Her account is clear and detailed when she described how the water hit
her - making her top see through - and how embarrassed she was by this.”

Coupe, who has no previous convictions, was fined £1,000, made to pay
£620 costs and a £100 victim surcharge. He was also ordered to pay £400 compensation to Miss Harrison.

Suzie Kavanagh, defending Coupe, said: “He is recently divorced and is currently in a poor financial situation. He currently earns around £18,800 per year.”

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QUOTE: “Her account is clear and detailed when she described how the water hit her - making her top see through - and how embarrassed she was by this.” ENDS

So a pervert as well as a thug?

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On 23/06/2023 10:28 am, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

QUOTE: “Her account is clear and detailed when she described how the water hit her - making her top see through - and how embarrassed she was by this.” ENDS

So a pervert as well as a thug?

That bit certainly seems to have excited you, M'Lud!

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

A BUSINESSMAN hurled a barrage of foul-mouthed abuse at a female traffic warden before squirting her with a water pistol.

The court heard Miss Harrison had a body camera attached to her but
recording of the incident failed because there was not enough memory on the device.

The recording failed? SOP…

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Two water pistols were seized after an emergency response to a town centre.

Armed police were called to Week Street in Maidstone, opposite KFC, at around 2.45pm to reports a person was seen with a weapon

Pictures and videos from the scene showed multiple vehicles and officers with a police helicopter overhead.

The force swarmed the “lawless” part of the town centre after inital reports suggested someone was in possession of a handgun.

Two teenage girls were arrested and two water pistols seized by the force.

A police spokesman said: “The initial call made to us described a person as being in possession of what appeared to resemble a handgun.

“A similar description was received via town centre CCTV operators.

“Upon inspection by attending officers, two items seized were confirmed as water pistols. The two people arrested were released from custody later that evening.”

A video of large crowds appearing to show someone be arrested next to Payden’s pharmacy was shared online.

The area where the incident happened has been criticsed before by shop owners and councillors as being lawless.

It has gathered a notorious reputation over the past few years for anti-social behaviour and incidents.

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swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

Two water pistols were seized after an emergency response to a town centre.

Armed police were called to Week Street in Maidstone, opposite KFC, at
around 2.45pm to reports a person was seen with a weapon

Pictures and videos from the scene showed multiple vehicles and officers
with a police helicopter overhead.

The force swarmed the “lawless” part of the town centre after inital reports suggested someone was in possession of a handgun.

Two teenage girls were arrested and two water pistols seized by the force.

No wonder the police bin reports of burglaries at the rate of a million a
year. They are too busy getting tooled up to chase shadows.

A police spokesman said: “The initial call made to us described a person
as being in possession of what appeared to resemble a handgun.

“A similar description was received via town centre CCTV operators.

“Upon inspection by attending officers, two items seized were confirmed
as water pistols. The two people arrested were released from custody later that evening.”

A video of large crowds appearing to show someone be arrested next to Payden’s pharmacy was shared online.

The area where the incident happened has been criticsed before by shop
owners and councillors as being lawless.

So there’s a larger problem here doubtless ignored by the police up to now.

It has gathered a notorious reputation over the past few years for anti-social behaviour and incidents.

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swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Two water pistols were seized after an emergency response to a town centre.

Armed police were called to Week Street in Maidstone, opposite KFC, at around 2.45pm to reports a person was seen with a weapon

Pictures and videos from the scene showed multiple vehicles and officers with a police helicopter overhead.

The force swarmed the “lawless” part of the town centre after inital reports suggested someone was in possession of a handgun.

Two teenage girls were arrested and two water pistols seized by the force.

No wonder the police bin burglaries at the rate of 3000 a day. They
are too busy getting tooled up to chase shadows.

A police spokesman said: “The initial call made to us described a person as being in possession of what appeared to resemble a handgun.

“A similar description was received via town centre CCTV operators.

“Upon inspection by attending officers, two items seized were confirmed as water pistols. The two people arrested were released from custody later that evening.”

A video of large crowds appearing to show someone be arrested next to Payden’s pharmacy was shared online.

The area where the incident happened has been criticsed before by shop owners and councillors as being lawless.

So there's a larger problem here doubtless ignored by the police until
now.

It has gathered a notorious reputation over the past few years for anti-social behaviour and incidents.

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A brutal assault that took place in Northampton last week saw a gang throw a man to the ground and stamp on his head.

The assault took place on Wednesday, May 19 at 8pm when the victim was walking past the Far Cotton REC Centre in Towcester Road.

A grey people carrier pulled up nearby and three or four men got out before spraying the victim with water pistols. When the victim tried to grab one of the water pistols, the gang then threw him to the ground and stamped on him, causing cuts and grazes
to his head and face.

The attackers then got back into the vehicle and drove away from the scene.

A spokesperson for Northamptonshire Police said: "The driver of the people carrier is described as a white man in his mid to late 20s, five foot and six inches to five foot and 10 inches tall and of muscular build. He wore a dark coloured sweatshirt with
white or cream patches on the front, and a dark coloured baseball cap with a lighter colour on the front.

"The second suspect is described as an Asian man in his early 20s, around five foot and 11 inches, of medium build and a clear complexion. He wore a light blue hoodie with the hood up, and a light blue facemask. He carried a multi-coloured water pistol.

"The third and fourth men were in their early 20s, both wearing hoodies with the hoods up, with facemasks and carrying multi-coloured water pistols."

Witnesses or anyone with information or relevant dash cam footage is asked to call Northamptonshire Police on 101, quoting incident number: 21000276991

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On 17/06/2023 20:43, JNugent wrote:

Are you quite right in the head?

Maybe he landed on his head when he jumped of that bridge leaving him humourless and very forgetful?

Humorless as he posts about how bad it is on the ONE DAY A YEAR that
disabled kiddies get to have a bit fun, and it's no secret when it is
on. Oh and BTW I have never witnessed [1] any one squirting anything
but water from their pistols/guns too many responsible adults about to
allow that.

Forgetful because he he ends up posting about the legal ramifications
of splashing someone by driving through a puddle (need to add a lack of relevancy as well as no-one was 'talking' about splashing someone by
driving through a puddle) several times

[1] It may have happened that I don't know about it, but I severely
doubt it.

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soup <invalid@invalid.com> wrote:

On 17/06/2023 20:43, JNugent wrote:

Are you quite right in the head?

Maybe he landed on his head when he jumped of that bridge leaving him humourless and very forgetful?

Humorless as he posts about how bad it is on the ONE DAY A YEAR that
disabled kiddies get to have a bit fun, and it's no secret when it is
on. Oh and BTW I have never witnessed [1] any one squirting anything
but water from their pistols/guns too many responsible adults about to
allow that.

Forgetful because he he ends up posting about the legal ramifications
of splashing someone by driving through a puddle (need to add a lack of relevancy as well as no-one was 'talking' about splashing someone by
driving through a puddle) several times

[1] It may have happened that I don't know about it, but I severely
doubt it.

Churlish as Mason is, at least it’s a change from fly-tipping and SUV rollover accidents in the US.

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There's nothing more frustrating than running late. You might be racing to drop the kids off at school in the morning or to get to your doctor's appointment after a busy day at work.

When in a rush, you might not notice a large puddle by the side of the road and end up getting water on someone walking past. But is this illegal? We take you through whether you could get a fine if you accidentally splash a pedestrian.
Is it illegal to splash a pedestrian?

Yes, it is illegal to splash a pedestrian with water from the road while you're driving. Splashing a pedestrian falls under Section 3 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and is punishable through a Fixed Penalty Notice.

You can get a maximum fine of up to £5,000 and between three and nine penalty points on your licence if someone complains to police. One driver received a £500 fine after he splashed a mother and her children on the way to school. The court gave the
new driver six points on his licence and ordered him to pay an extra £50 to the victim.

The way you deal with the situation could determine whether or not the person you splash takes it any further. You could apologise and maybe even offer to pay their dry cleaning bill. If you're found to deliberately drive through puddles to target
pedestrians you could get a Public Order Offence.

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Fine and points mentioned 10 times by Mason in this thread…

“You can get a maximum fine of up to £5,000 and between three and nine penalty points on your licence if someone complains to police”


swldx...@gmail.com <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

There's nothing more frustrating than running late. You might be racing
to drop the kids off at school in the morning or to get to your doctor's appointment after a busy day at work.

When in a rush, you might not notice a large puddle by the side of the
road and end up getting water on someone walking past. But is this
illegal? We take you through whether you could get a fine if you
accidentally splash a pedestrian.
Is it illegal to splash a pedestrian?

Yes, it is illegal to splash a pedestrian with water from the road while you're driving. Splashing a pedestrian falls under Section 3 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and is punishable through a Fixed Penalty Notice.

You can get a maximum fine of up to £5,000 and between three and nine penalty points on your licence if someone complains to police. One driver received a £500 fine after he splashed a mother and her children on the
way to school. The court gave the new driver six points on his licence
and ordered him to pay an extra £50 to the victim.

The way you deal with the situation could determine whether or not the
person you splash takes it any further. You could apologise and maybe
even offer to pay their dry cleaning bill. If you're found to
deliberately drive through puddles to target pedestrians you could get a Public Order Offence.

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Some people don't appreciate the "joke".

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Police were called after pranksters drove around Manchester’s Northern Quarter shooting Bank Holiday revellers with a water gun.

The jokers were spotted in a blue people carrier late on Sunday night, hosing down passers-by, officers said.

They provoked mixed reactions when police aired the news on Twitter.

GMP City Centre posted on Sunday night at 11.08pm: “Report of occupants of blue people carrier in NQ spraying pedestrians with large water gun. Is it me or is it just not that funny?”

Follower @jehovah_himself replied: “It’s pathetic. Embarrassingly stupid” before Maria McCoy added: “I’m with you! I’d not be too pleased to have any liquid sited at me it’s bloody cold!”

Duncan Drasdo, CEO of Manchester United Supporters Trust, joked: “Are you sure it’s water they’re spraying?”

Officers later posted that the water gun offenders could be arrested on suspicion of assault or public order offences, but it is not yet known if anyone was actually detained.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/northern-quarter-water-pistol-police-9323715

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On 27/06/2023 06:34 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

Some people don't appreciate the "joke".

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Police were called after pranksters drove around Manchester’s Northern Quarter shooting Bank Holiday revellers with a water gun.

The jokers were spotted in a blue people carrier late on Sunday night, hosing down passers-by, officers said.

A water pistol or a hose?

Which is it?

They provoked mixed reactions when police aired the news on Twitter.
GMP City Centre posted on Sunday night at 11.08pm: “Report of occupants of blue people carrier in NQ spraying pedestrians with large water gun. Is it me or is it just not that funny?”

Since you sound like a bit like a chav-cyclist, it's just you (and
others of that ilk).

Follower @jehovah_himself replied: “It’s pathetic. Embarrassingly stupid” before Maria McCoy added: “I’m with you! I’d not be too pleased to have any liquid sited at me it’s bloody cold!”
Duncan Drasdo, CEO of Manchester United Supporters Trust, joked: “Are you sure it’s water they’re spraying?”

:-)

Well... some people do have a wicked sense of humour, of course.

Officers later posted that the water gun offenders could be arrested on suspicion of assault or public order offences, but it is not yet known if anyone was actually detained...

...or whether they were nine years old.

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/northern-quarter-water-pistol-police-9323715

PS: Thank you for once more replying to my part of the thread (which is
the one with the corrected, and only correct, thread title.

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On 27/06/2023 05:34 pm, swldx...@gmail.com wrote:

There's nothing more frustrating than running late. You might be racing to drop the kids off at school in the morning or to get to your doctor's appointment after a busy day at work.

When in a rush, you might not notice a large puddle by the side of the road and end up getting water on someone walking past. But is this illegal? We take you through whether you could get a fine if you accidentally splash a pedestrian.
Is it illegal to splash a pedestrian?

Yes, it is illegal to splash a pedestrian with water from the road while you're driving. Splashing a pedestrian falls under Section 3 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and is punishable through a Fixed Penalty Notice.

You can get a maximum fine of up to £5,000 and between three and nine penalty points on your licence if someone complains to police. One driver received a £500 fine after he splashed a mother and her children on the way to school. The court gave the

new driver six points on his licence and ordered him to pay an extra £50 to the victim.

The way you deal with the situation could determine whether or not the person you splash takes it any further. You could apologise and maybe even offer to pay their dry cleaning bill. If you're found to deliberately drive through puddles to target

pedestrians you could get a Public Order Offence.

What drastic penalty is handed down to nine-year-old disabled children
who playfully splash a chav-on-a-bike with a toy water pistol?

By the way, thank you for responding under the corrected (and only
correct) thread title as above, including mention of the chav who
whinged about being splashed by a kid's water pistol when said disabled
child was on an annual charitable excursion.

One thing is becoming more and more clear: chavs on bikes such as
yourself and the complainant in the original story are humourless, self-important prigs.

There you are. Even you should be able to understand it. Only one
four-syllable word.

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A THUG has been jailed after shooting two cops in the face with a giant water pistol filled with highly corrosive drain cleaner.

Mark Bedwell sprayed the noxious liquid at two police officers using a children’s 'super-soaker’ gun before then fleeing the scene.

Both officers sustained serious burning and blistering to their face, neck, head and hands, causing "detrimental" trauma.

Bedwell was arrested a short time later the same morning of the incident in 2019 at James Paget hospital, Great Yarmouth, Norfolk, after another police officer recognised the same thug had come to the hospital for an ankle injury.

He was taken to Great Yarmouth Police Investigation Centre and charged with two counts of GBH.

One officer was discharged from hospital later the same day while the other officer required an overnight stay before being discharged, both required follow up treatment to their injuries.

They 50-year-old later pleaded guilty to two offences of unlawfully and maliciously throwing a corrosive fluid, with intent to burn, maim, disfigure or cause grievous bodily harm, now jailed for six years.

Detective Inspector Matt Adams of Lowestoft CID said: "This sentence handed out by the courts reflects the severity and seriousness of the incident.

"Both officers who were injured have outlined how it has had a significantly detrimental effect on them.

"The physical pain and discomfort both experienced afterwards has alleviated but the mental trauma remains for both.

"Any assault or attack on a police officer is deplorable.

"It is completely unacceptable to assault a person who is simply going out to do their job and do their best to serve the community and to work with and protect the public.

"This six-year sentence is a clear reminder to anyone who thinks they can attack officers without consequence is wrong.

"We will take action against those people to secure a prosecution and bring the perpetrators to justice.”

It was part of a pre-planned joint operation with Metropolitan police to arrest Bedwell in connection with other offences and to extradite him to America.

Bedwell was sentenced at Ipswich Crown Court.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/uknews/15431034/thug-jailed-after-water-pistol-attack/

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