• 'Luck' nobody was killed when banned driver led police on 13-minute cha

    From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 23:08:57 2023
    A "flagrant" banned driver who showed a "total disregard" for the rules of the road led police on a hair-raising and highly dangerous chase for 13 minutes before suddenly smashing into another car in a horrific crash.

    Car-obsessed cannabis user Liam Robinson narrowly avoided killing a woman at the scene of the wreckage and she only cheated death by pure luck because there were metal railings to protect her.

    He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard.

    Robinson, 33, of Queensgate Street, Hull, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, fraudulently using a registration plate, driving while disqualified and having no insurance on June 9.

    Matthew Moore-Taylor, prosecuting, said that Robinson was driving a BMW 3 on the A63 near South Cave at 5.05pm when he drove past police on the opposite carriageway and they realised that he was disqualified.

    They followed him as he drove under the Humber Bridge towards Hessle, the Boothferry estate, Anlaby Park Road South, Hull Road and Anlaby Road at speeds sometimes reaching more than 100mph.

    He undertook vehicles, weaved in and out of traffic, drove through three sets of red traffic lights and went the wrong way around a roundabout during the 13-minute chase. He dodged a tyre-bursting stinger device.

    There were numerous pedestrians and motorcyclists around and Robinson missed a cyclist by only a few feet. The BMW later smashed into another car that was making a turn near a greengrocers in De La Pole Avenue.

    A female pedestrian narrowly missed being killed but she was saved only by nearby metal railings that prevented a tragedy. The other car driver had no memory of what happened and woke up in hospital.

    He suffered broken bones in his wrist and needed an operation to insert plates. He was in a plaster cast for two weeks and the wires were removed after six weeks. He was likely to have long-term effects.

    A male passenger in Robinson's car "miraculously" suffered no physical injuries but he still had bouts of dizziness and often asked himself "What if?" when he remembered the accident.

    Robinson was found to have switched the car's registration plates after buying it two weeks earlier. He tested positive for cannabis after the accident and he had smoked a joint that morning. He made no comment during police interview.

    Robinson had convictions for 26 previous offences, including aggravated vehicle taking, seven for driving while banned and two for driving while unfit through drugs. He was banned from driving for four years in July 2021 and he was in breach of a 26-week
    suspended prison sentence imposed that day for driving while disqualified.

    David Godfrey, mitigating, said: "It was an extremely poor piece of driving and that is something of an understatement. It's luck, not judgement, that someone wasn't killed.

    "He doesn't really fully understand why he did what he did, other than that he panicked. He knew that he had a suspended sentence and he took the wrong course, something of an understatement, and it escalated.

    "He feels real shame. His fascination with cars has got to come to a stop. He needs to realise that tinkering, working on cars is not something that he should be involved with."

    Robinson had bought the car two weeks earlier and he intended to sell it. "He had gone to collect some parts and the police saw him," said Mr Godfrey. "He panicked and off he went. He has been working as a mechanic since he was 13 years old.

    "He was looking at making some cash from the renovation of this vehicle. He was smoking upwards of £50 of cannabis a day. This was, in his words, messing with his head."

    Robinson had not been to prison for about five years and had recently been living a "wholesome life" apart from "smoking far too much cannabis". He had a 10-year-old son.

    Judge Kate Rayfield told Robinson: "You were determined to escape the police." The consequences for the other driver and Robinson's passenger were significant. Robinson changed the registration plates to avoid detection for driving while disqualified.

    "You have shown flagrant disregard for the order of the court which disqualified you from driving in 2021," said Judge Rayfield. "You were using drugs on the day of these offences.

    "You continue to show a total disregard for driving laws and are content to put others at risk of harm because you choose to continue to drive."

    Judge Rayfield said of the woman who narrowly avoided being hit at the crash scene: "He was pretty lucky that he didn't kill that woman. The woman pedestrian was saved only by the metal barrier. You could easily have killed her."

    Robinson was jailed for three-and-a-half years. The sentence included a consecutive six months for breaching the suspended sentence. He was banned from driving for nine years and nine months and he will have to pass an extended retest before he can drive
    legally again.

    https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/luck-nobody-killed-banned-driver-8802021

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Oct 5 00:13:03 2023
    On 04/10/2023 07:08 am, Simon Mason wrote:
    A "flagrant" banned driver who showed a "total disregard" for the rules of the road led police on a hair-raising and highly dangerous chase for 13 minutes before suddenly smashing into another car in a horrific crash.

    Car-obsessed cannabis user Liam Robinson narrowly avoided killing a woman at the scene of the wreckage and she only cheated death by pure luck because there were metal railings to protect her.

    He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard.

    Robinson, 33, of Queensgate Street, Hull, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, fraudulently using a registration plate, driving while disqualified and having no insurance on June 9.

    Matthew Moore-Taylor, prosecuting, said that Robinson was driving a BMW 3 on the A63 near South Cave at 5.05pm when he drove past police on the opposite carriageway and they realised that he was disqualified.

    They followed him as he drove under the Humber Bridge towards Hessle, the Boothferry estate, Anlaby Park Road South, Hull Road and Anlaby Road at speeds sometimes reaching more than 100mph.

    He undertook vehicles, weaved in and out of traffic, drove through three sets of red traffic lights and went the wrong way around a roundabout during the 13-minute chase. He dodged a tyre-bursting stinger device.

    There were numerous pedestrians and motorcyclists around and Robinson missed a cyclist by only a few feet. The BMW later smashed into another car that was making a turn near a greengrocers in De La Pole Avenue.

    A female pedestrian narrowly missed being killed but she was saved only by nearby metal railings that prevented a tragedy. The other car driver had no memory of what happened and woke up in hospital.

    He suffered broken bones in his wrist and needed an operation to insert plates. He was in a plaster cast for two weeks and the wires were removed after six weeks. He was likely to have long-term effects.

    A male passenger in Robinson's car "miraculously" suffered no physical injuries but he still had bouts of dizziness and often asked himself "What if?" when he remembered the accident.

    Robinson was found to have switched the car's registration plates after buying it two weeks earlier. He tested positive for cannabis after the accident and he had smoked a joint that morning. He made no comment during police interview.

    Robinson had convictions for 26 previous offences, including aggravated vehicle taking, seven for driving while banned and two for driving while unfit through drugs. He was banned from driving for four years in July 2021 and he was in breach of a 26-
    week suspended prison sentence imposed that day for driving while disqualified.

    David Godfrey, mitigating, said: "It was an extremely poor piece of driving and that is something of an understatement. It's luck, not judgement, that someone wasn't killed.

    "He doesn't really fully understand why he did what he did, other than that he panicked. He knew that he had a suspended sentence and he took the wrong course, something of an understatement, and it escalated.

    "He feels real shame. His fascination with cars has got to come to a stop. He needs to realise that tinkering, working on cars is not something that he should be involved with."

    Robinson had bought the car two weeks earlier and he intended to sell it. "He had gone to collect some parts and the police saw him," said Mr Godfrey. "He panicked and off he went. He has been working as a mechanic since he was 13 years old.

    "He was looking at making some cash from the renovation of this vehicle. He was smoking upwards of £50 of cannabis a day. This was, in his words, messing with his head."

    Robinson had not been to prison for about five years and had recently been living a "wholesome life" apart from "smoking far too much cannabis". He had a 10-year-old son.

    Judge Kate Rayfield told Robinson: "You were determined to escape the police." The consequences for the other driver and Robinson's passenger were significant. Robinson changed the registration plates to avoid detection for driving while disqualified.

    "You have shown flagrant disregard for the order of the court which disqualified you from driving in 2021," said Judge Rayfield. "You were using drugs on the day of these offences.

    "You continue to show a total disregard for driving laws and are content to put others at risk of harm because you choose to continue to drive."

    Judge Rayfield said of the woman who narrowly avoided being hit at the crash scene: "He was pretty lucky that he didn't kill that woman. The woman pedestrian was saved only by the metal barrier. You could easily have killed her."

    Robinson was jailed for three-and-a-half years. The sentence included a consecutive six months for breaching the suspended sentence. He was banned from driving for nine years and nine months and he will have to pass an extended retest before he can
    drive legally again.

    https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/luck-nobody-killed-banned-driver-8802021

    LOOK...

    He isn't a driver. He had no licence.

    In other words, though you prefer to ignore it, he was qualified only as
    a pedestrian or as a chav-bike rider (though he was fully-qualified for
    either of those things).

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 4 23:36:35 2023
    QUOTE: Robinson was jailed for three-and-a-half years. The sentence included a consecutive six months for breaching the suspended sentence. He was banned from driving for nine years and nine months and he will have to pass an extended retest before he
    can drive legally again.ENDS

    A de facto *TWELVE YEAR* ban - now that's more like it!

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 5 03:50:55 2023
    QUOTE: He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard.ENDS

    Apparently she was saved by the railings this thug collided with instead of her.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Oct 5 10:31:43 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: Robinson was jailed for three-and-a-half years. The sentence
    included a consecutive six months for breaching the suspended sentence.
    He was banned from driving for nine years and nine months and he will
    have to pass an extended retest before he can drive legally again.ENDS

    A de facto *TWELVE YEAR* ban - now that's more like it!

    Perhaps he’ll buy a licence from some East European country… Oh, the benefits of the EU…

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    Spike

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Oct 5 13:52:44 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was
    a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull
    Crown Court heard.ENDS

    Apparently she was saved by the railings this thug collided with instead of her.

    Hmmm…if he chose to collide with railings instead of the cyclist, that
    speaks of a form of chivalry.

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    Spike

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Oct 5 08:14:57 2023
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:50:57 AM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard.ENDS

    Apparently she was saved by the railings this thug collided with instead of her.

    My mistake - there were TWO different females that escaped being killed by this moron:

    QUOTE: Car-obsessed cannabis user Liam Robinson narrowly avoided killing a woman at the scene of the wreckage and she only cheated death by pure luck because there were metal railings to protect her.

    He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard. ENDS

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Oct 5 16:32:34 2023
    On 05/10/2023 07:36 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    QUOTE: Robinson was jailed for three-and-a-half years. The sentence included a consecutive six months for breaching the suspended sentence. He was banned from driving for nine years and nine months and he will have to pass an extended retest before he
    can drive legally again.ENDS

    A de facto *TWELVE YEAR* ban - now that's more like it!

    He's a fully-qualified chav-cyclist and has been so for some time.

    Why are you so against a fellow chav?

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Oct 5 08:34:12 2023
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:15:00 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:50:57 AM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard.ENDS

    Apparently she was saved by the railings this thug collided with instead of her.
    My mistake - there were TWO different females that escaped being killed by this moron:

    QUOTE: Car-obsessed cannabis user Liam Robinson narrowly avoided killing a woman at the scene of the wreckage and she only cheated death by pure luck because there were metal railings to protect her.
    He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard. ENDS

    Apologies for any confusion caused.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Thu Oct 5 16:34:00 2023
    On 05/10/2023 11:31 am, Spike wrote:

    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    QUOTE: Robinson was jailed for three-and-a-half years. The sentence
    included a consecutive six months for breaching the suspended sentence.
    He was banned from driving for nine years and nine months and he will
    have to pass an extended retest before he can drive legally again.ENDS

    A de facto *TWELVE YEAR* ban - now that's more like it!

    Perhaps he’ll buy a licence from some East European country… Oh, the benefits of the EU…

    There are a few people who frequently post details of such offers here
    in this very NG. I reckon that they know May Sun is here and wants some
    fake educational certificates. And maybe a fake MOT for a car whose
    safety equipment isn't in working order.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Oct 5 16:34:41 2023
    On 05/10/2023 11:50 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    QUOTE: He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard.ENDS

    Apparently she was saved by the railings this chav on a bike collided with instead of her.


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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Oct 5 08:35:24 2023
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:15:00 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:50:57 AM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard.ENDS

    Apparently she was saved by the railings this thug collided with instead of her.
    My mistake - there were TWO different females that escaped being killed by this moron:

    QUOTE: Car-obsessed cannabis user Liam Robinson narrowly avoided killing a woman at the scene of the wreckage and she only cheated death by pure luck because there were metal railings to protect her.
    He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard. ENDS

    Apologies for any confusion caused.

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Oct 5 08:36:45 2023
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 4:15:00 PM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:50:57 AM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard.ENDS

    Apparently she was saved by the railings this thug collided with instead of her.
    My mistake - there were TWO different females that escaped being killed by this moron:

    QUOTE: Car-obsessed cannabis user Liam Robinson narrowly avoided killing a woman at the scene of the wreckage and she only cheated death by pure luck because there were metal railings to protect her.
    He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard. ENDS

    Apologies for any confusion caused.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Oct 5 16:36:11 2023
    On 05/10/2023 04:14 pm, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 11:50:57 AM UTC+1, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull Crown Court heard.ENDS

    Apparently she was saved by the railings this thug collided with instead of her.

    My mistake - there were TWO different females that escaped being killed by this moron:

    Surely there are many hundreds of millions of females he failed to kill?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Thu Oct 5 16:35:28 2023
    On 05/10/2023 02:52 pm, Spike wrote:

    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    QUOTE: He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was
    a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull
    Crown Court heard.ENDS

    Apparently she was saved by the railings this thug collided with instead of her.

    Hmmm…if he chose to collide with railings instead of the cyclist, that speaks of a form of chivalry.

    From a fully-qualified chav-cyclist?

    Hardly likely.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu Oct 5 21:26:48 2023
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 05/10/2023 02:52 pm, Spike wrote:

    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    QUOTE: He had earlier narrowly missed hitting a female cyclist and it was >>> a miracle that nobody was killed during the frightening pursuit, Hull
    Crown Court heard.ENDS

    Apparently she was saved by the railings this thug collided with instead of her.

    Hmmm…if he chose to collide with railings instead of the cyclist, that
    speaks of a form of chivalry.

    From a fully-qualified chav-cyclist?

    Hardly likely.

    I only made the suggestion because the implication of the claim by Mason
    when he said “Apparently she was saved by the railings this thug collided with instead of her”. The ‘instead’ suggests a choice.

    Perhaps Mason should write in a style of English that conveys his meaning.
    On the other hand…🐷🦋

    --
    Spike

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 5 23:01:22 2023
    QUOTE: Robinson was found to have switched the car's registration plates after buying it two weeks earlier. ENDS

    Planning to fiddle the ULEZ cameras as well?

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