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    From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Tue Oct 17 12:29:20 2023
    On 17/10/2023 12:15 pm, Spike wrote:

    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great >> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now a >> group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.

    A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
    role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external),
    undertaken by psychology researchers

    Guess why I fell about laughing at this point!

    Note that in this posting of the report, not one single hard fact in
    support of its premises is mentioned, probably because none were
    researched.

    At most, based on what was mentioned, the upshot seems to be founded on the warm glow resulting from virtue-signalling. Good old road.cc reporting at
    its best.

    Did I miss a previous post in the thread?

    I'd like to see road.cc's latest sociopathic tripe.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Tue Oct 17 13:48:41 2023
    On 17/10/2023 01:30 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 17/10/2023 12:15 pm, Spike wrote:
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great >>>> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now a
    group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.

    A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The >>>> role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external),
    undertaken by psychology researchers

    Guess why I fell about laughing at this point!
    Note that in this posting of the report, not one single hard fact in
    support of its premises is mentioned, probably because none were
    researched.
    At most, based on what was mentioned, the upshot seems to be founded on the >>> warm glow resulting from virtue-signalling. Good old road.cc reporting at >>> its best.

    Did I miss a previous post in the thread?
    I'd like to see road.cc's latest sociopathic tripe.

    The headers of the OP were:

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    No, I never saw that one (and cannot recover it via Thunderbird).

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to JNugent on Tue Oct 17 14:05:52 2023
    On 17/10/2023 01:48 pm, JNugent wrote:
    On 17/10/2023 01:30 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 17/10/2023 12:15 pm, Spike wrote:
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to >>>>> great
    environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and >>>>> now a
    group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.

    A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The >>>>> role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external),
    undertaken by psychology researchers

    Guess why I fell about laughing at this point!
    Note that in this posting of the report, not one single hard fact in
    support of its premises is mentioned, probably because none were
    researched.
    At most, based on what was mentioned, the upshot seems to be founded
    on the
    warm glow resulting from virtue-signalling. Good old road.cc
    reporting at
    its best.

    Did I miss a previous post in the thread?
    I'd like to see road.cc's latest sociopathic tripe.

    The headers of the OP were:

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    No, I never saw that one (and cannot recover it via Thunderbird).

    But here it is:

    <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-17-october-2023-304523#live-blog-item-50595>

    QUOTE:
    Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now
    a group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions. ENDQUOTE

    I think we can all see how and why the control freaks can cite
    "environmental, health, safety" benefits (no matter how far-fetched).

    But "social benefits"?

    What are they?

    And even more outlandish, "political benefits"?

    What could they even be?

    The rest:

    QUOTE:
    A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
    role of individual urban mobility behaviour’(link is external),
    undertaken by psychology researchers at the University of Hagen in
    Germany and published in the Journal of Environmental Psychology,
    examined the relationships between mobility behaviour – in other words,
    what method of transport you use – and political participation, social participation in organisations, neighbourhood solidarity, and
    neighbourly helpfulness, four facets of what the authors describe as “orientation towards the common good”.

    According to the study, “a pronounced focus on the common good” is considered an essential component of social cohesion and is associated
    with the wellbeing of residents across diverse communities and multiple
    social levels.

    However, the researchers point out that little has been previously known
    about the conditions or factors that promote the common good, or how
    citizens themselves can create it.

    Likewise, while cycling is associated with many positive psychological variables, little is known about how it affects the common good.

    By analysing surveys between 2014 and 2019 of a representative sample of
    the German population, the researchers found that, in urban
    environments, “cycling rather than driving was positively associated
    with orientation towards the common good in all models” and that riding
    a bike “was the only variable that was a significant positive predictor
    for all four facets of orientation towards the common good after
    controlling for possibly confounding variables (home ownership, personal income, education, sex).”

    They argue that while the interactions motorists and car passengers have
    with their direct environments are “significantly reduced”, cyclists on
    the other hand “directly experience the breadth of social diversity and cultural heterogeneity that make up urban life and cannot escape these impressions due to sensory density”.

    This direct experience of the environment around them, the authors say, “leads to a stronger emotional bond between people and their
    neighbourhood” and therefore can lead to them participating in civic activities and politics.

    In other words, riding a bike – and the interactions and emotional
    connection you have with the people, communities, societies, and things
    around you while cycling – can make you a more responsible, engaged
    citizen and neighbour.

    The “relative isolation” of driving, meanwhile, can “reinforce individualistic behaviours and cause drivers to neglect collective actions”.

    Thus, the authors concluded that mobility behaviour is indeed
    “associated with the orientation towards the common good”, findings
    which they say are “significant for policy and planning because the
    benefits of cycling over driving are more profound and sustainable than previously thought”.

    Quick, someone get Rishi on the phone…
    ENDQUOTE

    That "study":

    <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272494423001731>

    It is all based on a "might" or two.

    I doubt that anyone normal gave any evidence to the self-appointed and self-educated "experts". There is certainly no mention of it.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Tue Oct 17 14:51:53 2023
    On 17/10/2023 02:46 pm, Spike wrote:
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 17/10/2023 01:48 pm, JNugent wrote:
    On 17/10/2023 01:30 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 17/10/2023 12:15 pm, Spike wrote:
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to >>>>>>> great
    environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and >>>>>>> now a
    group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions. >>>>
    A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
    role of individual urban mobility behaviour’ (link is external), >>>>>>> undertaken by psychology researchers

    Guess why I fell about laughing at this point!
    Note that in this posting of the report, not one single hard fact in >>>>>> support of its premises is mentioned, probably because none were
    researched.
    At most, based on what was mentioned, the upshot seems to be founded >>>>>> on the
    warm glow resulting from virtue-signalling. Good old road.cc
    reporting at
    its best.

    Did I miss a previous post in the thread?
    I'd like to see road.cc's latest sociopathic tripe.

    The headers of the OP were:

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    =?UTF-8?Q?driving_a_car=2C_is_positively_associated_with_=E2=80=9Corientation_?=

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    17 Oct
    2023 03:33:47 -0700 (PDT)
    Xref: uni-berlin.de uk.rec.cycling:960327

    No, I never saw that one (and cannot recover it via Thunderbird).

    But here it is:

    <https://road.cc/content/news/cycling-live-blog-17-october-2023-304523#live-blog-item-50595>

    QUOTE:
    Here at road.cc, we’ve always known that riding a bike can lead to great >> environmental, health, safety, social, and political benefits – and now
    a group of academics have helpfully confirmed our long-held suspicions.
    ENDQUOTE

    I think we can all see how and why the control freaks can cite
    "environmental, health, safety" benefits (no matter how far-fetched).

    But "social benefits"?

    What are they?

    And even more outlandish, "political benefits"?

    What could they even be?

    The rest:

    QUOTE:
    A new study titled ‘Orientation towards the common good in cities: The
    role of individual urban mobility behaviour’(link is external),
    undertaken by psychology researchers at the University of Hagen in
    Germany and published in the Journal of Environmental Psychology,
    examined the relationships between mobility behaviour – in other words,
    what method of transport you use – and political participation, social
    participation in organisations, neighbourhood solidarity, and
    neighbourly helpfulness, four facets of what the authors describe as
    “orientation towards the common good”.

    According to the study, “a pronounced focus on the common good” is
    considered an essential component of social cohesion and is associated
    with the wellbeing of residents across diverse communities and multiple
    social levels.

    However, the researchers point out that little has been previously known
    about the conditions or factors that promote the common good, or how
    citizens themselves can create it.

    Likewise, while cycling is associated with many positive psychological
    variables, little is known about how it affects the common good.

    By analysing surveys between 2014 and 2019 of a representative sample of
    the German population, the researchers found that, in urban
    environments, “cycling rather than driving was positively associated
    with orientation towards the common good in all models” and that riding
    a bike “was the only variable that was a significant positive predictor
    for all four facets of orientation towards the common good after
    controlling for possibly confounding variables (home ownership, personal
    income, education, sex).”

    They argue that while the interactions motorists and car passengers have
    with their direct environments are “significantly reduced”, cyclists on >> the other hand “directly experience the breadth of social diversity and
    cultural heterogeneity that make up urban life and cannot escape these
    impressions due to sensory density”.

    This direct experience of the environment around them, the authors say,
    “leads to a stronger emotional bond between people and their
    neighbourhood” and therefore can lead to them participating in civic
    activities and politics.

    In other words, riding a bike – and the interactions and emotional
    connection you have with the people, communities, societies, and things
    around you while cycling – can make you a more responsible, engaged
    citizen and neighbour.

    The “relative isolation” of driving, meanwhile, can “reinforce
    individualistic behaviours and cause drivers to neglect collective actions”.

    Thus, the authors concluded that mobility behaviour is indeed
    “associated with the orientation towards the common good”, findings
    which they say are “significant for policy and planning because the
    benefits of cycling over driving are more profound and sustainable than
    previously thought”.

    Quick, someone get Rishi on the phone…
    ENDQUOTE

    That "study":

    <https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0272494423001731>

    It is all based on a "might" or two.

    I doubt that anyone normal gave any evidence to the self-appointed and
    self-educated "experts". There is certainly no mention of it.

    Take this extract…

    “…the interactions and emotional connection you have with the people, communities, societies, and things around you while cycling – can make you a more responsible, engaged citizen and neighbour”, which totally and absolutely avoids addressing the issue of why cyclists are so antisocial, kicking little girls to the ground, killing people by cycling on the pavement, damaging cars, blocking roads, RLJing and the rest.

    There are none so blind...

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