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    From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 21:44:54 2023
    Britons could be issued £200 fine for driving law ‘confusion’ in major warning
    Drivers have been warned they may be caught out and fined for breaking a simple rule.

    Motorists have been warned they could be breaking driving laws for tampering with traffic smartphone apps while behind the wheel.

    Experts at Road Angel have warned motorists could be caught out for simply touching their phone even if it is in a cradle due to tough new laws.

    A recent crackdown ensured it was now illegal for drivers to use their mobile phones under any circumstances.

    This includes simply touching the device to programme a location into driving apps such as Google Maps.

    Some navigation apps also urge motorists to touch the screen multiple times to report issues such as congestion, potholes and crashes.

    This data is then collected to reroute other drivers away from an incident to speed up journey times. However, helping other road users could see motorists caught out with fines and penalty points.

    Gary Digva, spokesperson for Road Angel admitted it was “never acceptable” to use a phone while driving.

    He said: “There is still some confusion around the use of phones whilst driving, despite the law tightening up over a year ago.

    “We think it is important for motorists to understand what they can and can't do when using some popular driving apps as they encourage user interaction in real-time.

    https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1820313/driving-law-fine-mobile-phone-rules

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 09:30:09 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1820313/driving-law-fine-mobile-phone-rules

    Posted under a different Subject only 1 minute ago.

    Been on the home-brew again?

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 04:08:41 2023
    QUOTE: Gary Digva, spokesperson for Road Angel admitted it was “never acceptable” to use a phone while driving. ENDS

    You need loads of posters to that effect around the UK, like the "Brexit has failed" ones.

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 04:30:29 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:08:43 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Gary Digva, spokesperson for Road Angel admitted it was “never acceptable” to use a phone while driving. ENDS

    You need loads of posters to that effect around the UK, like the "Brexit has failed" ones.

    Here's one:

    https://www.theargus.co.uk/resources/images/16838021.jpg?type=mds-article-962

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 12:01:29 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:08:43 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Gary Digva, spokesperson for Road Angel admitted it was “never
    acceptable” to use a phone while driving. ENDS

    You need loads of posters to that effect around the UK, like the "Brexit has failed" ones.

    Here's one:

    https://www.theargus.co.uk/resources/images/16838021.jpg?type=mds-article-962

    I can see what your problem is here - you believe what politicians say…

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 11:28:21 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: Gary Digva, spokesperson for Road Angel admitted it was “never acceptable” to use a phone while driving. ENDS

    You need loads of posters to that effect around the UK, like the "Brexit has failed" ones.

    No need to put up “The EU has failed” posters, of course.

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 06:08:37 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:30:31 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:08:43 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Gary Digva, spokesperson for Road Angel admitted it was “never acceptable” to use a phone while driving. ENDS

    You need loads of posters to that effect around the UK, like the "Brexit has failed" ones.
    Here's one:

    https://www.theargus.co.uk/resources/images/16838021.jpg?type=mds-article-962

    Here's another one:

    https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/projects/1519079.jpg?1684413698

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 14:28:39 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:30:31 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:08:43 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Gary Digva, spokesperson for Road Angel admitted it was “never
    acceptable” to use a phone while driving. ENDS

    You need loads of posters to that effect around the UK, like the
    "Brexit has failed" ones.
    Here's one:

    https://www.theargus.co.uk/resources/images/16838021.jpg?type=mds-article-962

    Here's another one:

    https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/projects/1519079.jpg?1684413698

    See what I mean?

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    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 15:38:23 2023
    On 31/10/2023 04:44 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    Britons could be issued £200 fine for driving law ‘confusion’ in major warning
    Drivers have been warned they may be caught out and fined for breaking a simple rule.
    Motorists have been warned they could be breaking driving laws for tampering with traffic smartphone apps while behind the wheel.
    Experts at Road Angel have warned motorists could be caught out for simply touching their phone even if it is in a cradle due to tough new laws.
    A recent crackdown ensured it was now illegal for drivers to use their mobile phones under any circumstances.

    That is puerile rubbish.

    This includes simply touching the device to programme a location into driving apps such as Google Maps.

    It's what Siri was designed for.

    Some navigation apps also urge motorists to touch the screen multiple times to report issues such as congestion, potholes and crashes.
    This data is then collected to reroute other drivers away from an incident to speed up journey times. However, helping other road users could see motorists caught out with fines and penalty points.
    Gary Digva, spokesperson for Road Angel admitted it was “never acceptable” to use a phone while driving.

    That is sheer bull****.

    He said: “There is still some confusion around the use of phones whilst driving, despite the law tightening up over a year ago.
    “We think it is important for motorists to understand what they can and can't do when using some popular driving apps as they encourage user interaction in real-time.
    https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/cars/1820313/driving-law-fine-mobile-phone-rules

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 08:45:10 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 1:08:39 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:30:31 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:08:43 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Gary Digva, spokesperson for Road Angel admitted it was “never acceptable” to use a phone while driving. ENDS

    You need loads of posters to that effect around the UK, like the "Brexit has failed" ones.
    Here's one:

    https://www.theargus.co.uk/resources/images/16838021.jpg?type=mds-article-962
    Here's another one:

    https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/projects/1519079.jpg?1684413698

    We've mismanaged this totally,” Farage said, responding to a raft of data suggesting there had been a negative economic impact of Brexit. “Brexit has failed,” he added. “We've not delivered on Brexit and the Tories have let us down very, very
    badly.”

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Misogyny on Tue Oct 31 15:49:46 2023
    On 31/10/2023 03:45 pm, Simon Misogyny wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 1:08:39 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:30:31 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:08:43 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Gary Digva, spokesperson for Road Angel admitted it was “never acceptable” to use a phone while driving. ENDS

    You need loads of posters to that effect around the UK, like the "Brexit has failed" ones.
    Here's one:

    https://www.theargus.co.uk/resources/images/16838021.jpg?type=mds-article-962
    Here's another one:

    https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/projects/1519079.jpg?1684413698

    We've mismanaged this totally,” Farage said, responding to a raft of data suggesting there had been a negative economic impact of Brexit. “Brexit has failed,” he added. “We've not delivered on Brexit and the Tories have let us down very, very
    badly.”

    Was he on his chav-bike when he allegedly said all that?

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 08:56:09 2023
    QUOTE: Some navigation apps also urge motorists to touch the screen multiple times to report issues such as congestion, potholes and crashes. ENDS

    Those apps want banning - just as bad as the "nodding dog" morons.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 16:29:28 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 1:08:39 PM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:30:31 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 11:08:43 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Gary Digva, spokesperson for Road Angel admitted it was “never >>>> acceptable” to use a phone while driving. ENDS

    You need loads of posters to that effect around the UK, like the
    "Brexit has failed" ones.
    Here's one:

    https://www.theargus.co.uk/resources/images/16838021.jpg?type=mds-article-962
    Here's another one:

    https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/uploads/projects/1519079.jpg?1684413698

    We've mismanaged this totally,” Farage said, responding to a raft of data suggesting there had been a negative economic impact of Brexit. “Brexit
    has failed,” he added. “We've not delivered on Brexit and the Tories have let us down very, very badly.”

    Philosophical question: if Brexit was ‘not delivered’, how could it have failed?

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 09:57:47 2023
    On Tuesday, 31 October 2023 at 15:56:11 UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Some navigation apps also urge motorists to touch the screen multiple times to report issues such as congestion, potholes and crashes. ENDS

    Those apps want banning - just as bad as the "nodding dog" morons.

    They all seem to be examining their crotches in minute detail for some reason.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 16:40:52 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote
    :
    QUOTE: Some navigation apps also urge motorists to touch the screen
    multiple times to report issues such as congestion, potholes and crashes. ENDS

    Those apps want banning - just as bad as the "nodding dog" morons.

    Cyclist on phone crashes into gate, loses five teeth.

    <https://news.sky.com/video/cyclist-on-phone-crashes-into-gate-11252672>

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    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Misogynist on Tue Oct 31 17:52:16 2023
    On 31/10/2023 04:57 pm, Simon Misogynist wrote:

    On Tuesday, 31 October 2023 at 15:56:11 UTC, Simon Mason wrote:

    QUOTE: Some navigation apps also urge motorists to touch the screen multiple times to report issues such as congestion, potholes and crashes. ENDS

    Those apps want banning - just as bad as the "nodding dog" morons.

    They all seem to be examining their crotches in minute detail for some reason.

    You are right. Chav-cyclists DO so often seem to be looking at their groins.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Tue Oct 31 17:51:24 2023
    On 31/10/2023 04:40 pm, Spike wrote:
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote
    :
    QUOTE: Some navigation apps also urge motorists to touch the screen
    multiple times to report issues such as congestion, potholes and crashes. ENDS

    Those apps want banning - just as bad as the "nodding dog" morons.

    Cyclist on phone crashes into gate, loses five teeth. <https://news.sky.com/video/cyclist-on-phone-crashes-into-gate-11252672>

    You forgot the "LOL!".

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 12:18:00 2023
    QUOTE: Experts at Road Angel have warned motorists could be caught out for simply touching their phone even if it is in a cradle due to tough new laws. A recent crackdown ensured it was now illegal for drivers to use their mobile phones under any
    circumstances. ENDS

    How many "recent crackdowns" does it take to get the message through their thick skulls?

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Tue Oct 31 19:42:33 2023
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 31/10/2023 04:40 pm, Spike wrote:
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote
    :
    QUOTE: Some navigation apps also urge motorists to touch the screen
    multiple times to report issues such as congestion, potholes and crashes. ENDS

    Those apps want banning - just as bad as the "nodding dog" morons.

    Cyclist on phone crashes into gate, loses five teeth.
    <https://news.sky.com/video/cyclist-on-phone-crashes-into-gate-11252672>

    You forgot the "LOL!".

    oops…mea culpa…

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Tue Oct 31 19:45:44 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: Experts at Road Angel have warned motorists could be caught out
    for simply touching their phone even if it is in a cradle due to tough
    new laws. A recent crackdown ensured it was now illegal for drivers to
    use their mobile phones under any circumstances. ENDS

    How many "recent crackdowns" does it take to get the message through their thick skulls?

    Your quote is wrong. It is NOT ‘illegal for drivers to use their mobile phones under any circumstances’.

    Look up the law on the topic, you twerp, it doesn’t comprise Road Angel covering their *rses.

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 12:54:01 2023
    QUOTE: Motorists have been warned they could be breaking driving laws for tampering with traffic smartphone apps while behind the wheel.ENDS

    They need more warnings - obviously!

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 31 13:07:47 2023
    QUOTE: "Put an iPad in a cradle then I am breaking the law. " ENDS

    I should bloody well think so!

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 1 09:26:27 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    QUOTE: Motorists have been warned they could be breaking driving laws for tampering with traffic smartphone apps while behind the wheel.ENDS

    They need more warnings - obviously!

    Why?

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 1 04:40:58 2023
    QUOTE: Motorists have been warned they could be breaking driving laws for tampering with traffic smartphone apps while behind the wheel. ENDS

    Didn't Cycling Mikey nab Chris Eubank for that very offence?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Misogyny on Wed Nov 1 11:47:05 2023
    On 01/11/2023 11:40 am, Simon Misogyny wrote:

    QUOTE: Motorists have been warned they could be breaking driving laws for tampering with traffic smartphone apps while behind the wheel. ENDS

    Didn't Cycling Mikey nab Chris Eubank for that very offence?

    Do you know what the word "tamper" even means?

    It would appear not.

    Another Del Boyism from you there, Del Boy.

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 1 06:39:19 2023
    On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 11:41:00 AM UTC, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Motorists have been warned they could be breaking driving laws for tampering with traffic smartphone apps while behind the wheel. ENDS

    Didn't Cycling Mikey nab Chris Eubank for that very offence?

    The undisputed champion of London helmet camera users, Cycling Mikey, has claimed another notable scalp after catching former WBO middleweight and super-middleweight champion boxer Chris Eubank driving through a red traffic light in London’s Hyde Park.

    As happened in November 2019, when he caught film director Guy Ritchie using a handheld mobile phone in Regent’s Park, Mikey – real name Mike van Erp – initially had no idea who the driver was when he spotted Eubank with his phone in his hand. He
    was sat at the wheel of his Rolls-Royce convertible near the junction of West Carriage Drive and South Carriage Drive, which run alongside the city’s Cycleway 3.

    Guy Ritchie handed driving ban after cyclist caught him using his phone at the wheel

    The Evening Standard reports (link is external) Mikey told Bromley Magistrates’ Court that on 2 September last year, he was “filtering up past the queue of traffic and noticed this Rolls-Royce driver holding his phone.”

    In the video, he said to Eubank, “Nice car, mate,” before adding, “I hope you are not using the phone.”

    He continued: “I was the person who got Guy Ritchie. I didn’t know who he was. Are you famous? I wouldn’t know who you were either.”

    Eubank told him: “Go away, go away, I’m an officer,” and when Mikey sought clarification of whether he meant he was a police officer, the former boxer said, “Yeah, off you go, off you go.”

    “The traffic lights then changed, and we moved along,” Mikey said. “He drove through an early red light,”

    Mikey told the court: “I’m not particularly good with faces, especially those of famous people I’ve never seen in real life,” but said, “I thought that he [Eubank] was so well dressed that he must most likely be someone famous.

    “I googled the numberplate to discover who he was, and it turns out that he was given status of a certified law enforcement marshal in Louisiana in the USA due to his fame.”

    Eubank, who was born in London but lived as a youngster in Jamaica then New York City’s South Bronx, was granted that position by the city of Opelousas when he visited it in 2018.

    At the time (link is external), he said in a tweet accompanied by a video of him attending a road traffic collision: “Sergeant Eubank proudly on duty in Louisiana. All warriors protect and serve, whether one wears a badge or not.”

    In court, Eubank said he was trying to get away from the cyclist, whom he claimed is a “stalker.”

    He said: “I unintentionally ran the red light trying to get away from this man who admits he is a stalker.

    “He admits this when talking online and in a newspaper article, how he proudly had the famous director, Guy Ritchie, banned for six months.”

    After pleading guilty to failing to comply with the indication given by a traffic sign, Eubank was given three penalty points and told to pay £280 in fines, court costs and fees.

    Eubank has been in court several times over the years for motoring-related offences and in 1992 (link is external), he was fined £250 for driving without due care and attention after he lost control of his Range Rover and crashed into a building site,
    killing 33-year-old Kevin Lawlor.

    In 2013 (link is external), he was found guilty of taking a vehicle without consent after he drove a beer delivery lorry parked outside his home in Hove 150 yards down the road, only coming to a halt when he hit a road sign.

    Many of the videos from Cycling Mikey which have resulted in drivers being prosecuted were filmed at a spot on the Outer Circle of London’s Regent’s Park which has been nicknamed Gandalf Corner. This is a nod to the scene in the Lord of the Rings
    film The Fellowship of the Ring in which the wizard, played by Sir Ian McKellen, tells a balrog, “You shall not pass!”

    Mikey, who has said (link is external) that his efforts to bring law-breaking drivers to justice is in part motivated by his experience as a teenager when his father was killed by a drunk driver, has said that in 2019 alone he caught 358 drivers – and
    two cyclists – breaking the law, with fines totalling tens of thousands of pounds after his submission of footage to the police.

    In the 'about' section of his YouTube channel, he says (link is external): “I seem to upload an average of roughly 1 in 5,000 driver interactions to YouTube. That surprised me – far fewer than I expected, and it shows just how nice most people are to
    other road users. I tend to thank tens or hundreds of people on every commute for nice driving. It makes for boring footage though, so only the exceptionally good driving gets uploaded.

    “I'm a driver too, I love cars, but I don't like dangerous driving and people taking risks with vulnerable road users,” he adds.

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