• Driver jailed for six years after Birmingham crash

    From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 14 13:06:50 2023
    A career criminal who ploughed a stolen vehicle into a car carrying a family-of-five after an 80mph pursuit has been jailed for six years.

    Our Traffic officers spotted the stolen Ford EcoSport which was being driven by David Poulton near Dartmouth Circus.

    Poulton, aged 41, sped away from officers, driving on the wrong side of the road and through red traffic lights.

    He ended up on the wrong side of the Heartlands Parkway before hitting the VW T-Cross and injuring the three adults and two children inside.

    The family had travelled to the West Midlands from the South to visit their in-laws for Eid, and were on their way to Star City.

    A boy aged five suffered a bleed on the brain and is now undergoing rehabilitation to learn how to talk again.

    His brother aged three suffered less serious injuries, while the three adults suffered injuries including a broken femur.

    Poulton was arrested and taken to hospital to be treated for minor injuries after the crash, which happened just before 2pm on 30 April.

    The car had been stolen in February from a Morrisons car park in Coventry, and Poulton was wanted for making threats and criminal damage at the time of the arrest.

    Poulton, of no fixed address, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, disqualified driving, failing to stop for police, driving without insurance, handling stolen goods and failing to provide a specimen of blood for analysis.

    He also admitted possession of cannabis, and the offences he was wanted for at the time. He has more than 40 previous convictions.

    A career criminal who ploughed a stolen vehicle into a car carrying a family-of-five after an 80mph pursuit has been jailed for six years.

    Our Traffic officers spotted the stolen Ford EcoSport which was being driven by David Poulton near Dartmouth Circus.

    Poulton, aged 41, sped away from officers, driving on the wrong side of the road and through red traffic lights.

    He ended up on the wrong side of the Heartlands Parkway before hitting the VW T-Cross and injuring the three adults and two children inside.

    The family had travelled to the West Midlands from the South to visit their in-laws for Eid, and were on their way to Star City.

    A boy aged five suffered a bleed on the brain and is now undergoing rehabilitation to learn how to talk again.

    His brother aged three suffered less serious injuries, while the three adults suffered injuries including a broken femur.

    Poulton was arrested and taken to hospital to be treated for minor injuries after the crash, which happened just before 2pm on 30 April.

    The car had been stolen in February from a Morrisons car park in Coventry, and Poulton was wanted for making threats and criminal damage at the time of the arrest.

    Poulton, of no fixed address, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, disqualified driving, failing to stop for police, driving without insurance, handling stolen goods and failing to provide a specimen of blood for analysis.

    He also admitted possession of cannabis, and the offences he was wanted for at the time. He has more than 40 previous convictions.

    On Friday, (10 November) at Birmingham Crown Court he was jailed for a total of six years, and banned from driving for 18 years.

    Sgt Richard Adams, of Birmingham CID, said: “This was an appalling case of dangerous driving.

    “He showed a complete disregard for other drivers, and once he decided to speed the wrong way down a busy road, a collision was inevitable.

    “It was pure luck that he or other people weren’t killed.

    “Thankfully the family involved are all making good recoveries.”

    https://www.west-midlands.police.uk/news/driver-jailed-six-years-after-birmingham-crash

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 15 00:42:01 2023
    On 14/11/2023 09:06 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    A career chav-cyclist who ploughed a stolen vehicle into a car carrying a family-of-five after an 80mph pursuit has been jailed for six years.
    Our Traffic officers spotted the stolen Ford EcoSport which was being driven by David Poulton near Dartmouth Circus.
    Poulton, aged 41, sped away from officers, driving on the wrong side of the road and through red traffic lights.
    He ended up on the wrong side of the Heartlands Parkway before hitting the VW T-Cross and injuring the three adults and two children inside.
    The family had travelled to the West Midlands from the South to visit their in-laws for Eid, and were on their way to Star City.
    A boy aged five suffered a bleed on the brain and is now undergoing rehabilitation to learn how to talk again.
    His brother aged three suffered less serious injuries, while the three adults suffered injuries including a broken femur.
    Poulton was arrested and taken to hospital to be treated for minor injuries after the crash, which happened just before 2pm on 30 April.
    The car had been stolen in February from a Morrisons car park in Coventry, and Poulton was wanted for making threats and criminal damage at the time of the arrest.
    Poulton, of no fixed address, admitted causing serious injury by dangerous driving, disqualified driving,

    There you go.

    He was nothing more than a mere chav-cyclist. It's all he was
    (un)qualified or.

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 14 23:12:21 2023
    QUOTE: Poulton, aged 41, sped away from officers, driving on the wrong side of the road and through red traffic lights.ENDS

    We are always told that drivers never pass through lights at red, so this is a lie.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 15 09:09:57 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    QUOTE: Poulton, aged 41, sped away from officers, driving on the wrong
    side of the road and through red traffic lights.ENDS

    We are always told that drivers never pass through lights at red, so this is a lie.

    He only drove through red lights because he’d seen cyclists get away with
    it time and again.

    See Road.cc’s videos on the issue…🙄

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    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 15 11:08:07 2023
    On 15/11/2023 07:12 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    QUOTE: Poulton, aged 41, sped away from officers, driving on the wrong side of the road and through red traffic lights.ENDS

    We are always told that drivers never pass through lights at red, so this is a lie.

    He was only an unqualified chav-cyclist (and therefore not a driver)
    wasn't he?

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 15 03:43:30 2023
    QUOTE: He also admitted possession of cannabis, and the offences he was wanted for at the time. He has more than 40 previous convictions.

    A career criminal who ploughed a stolen vehicle into a car carrying a family-of-five after an 80mph pursuit has been jailed for six years. ENDS

    Not a very lucrative "career" is it, fella?

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 15 14:42:23 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: He also admitted possession of cannabis, and the offences he was wanted for at the time. He has more than 40 previous convictions.

    A career criminal who ploughed a stolen vehicle into a car carrying a family-of-five after an 80mph pursuit has been jailed for six years. ENDS

    Not a very lucrative "career" is it, fella?

    ‘Not a lucrative career’? Who mentioned money, then?

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    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 15 16:02:27 2023
    On 15/11/2023 11:43 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    QUOTE: He also admitted possession of cannabis, and the offences he was wanted for at the time. He has more than 40 previous convictions.

    A career criminal who ploughed a stolen vehicle into a car carrying a family-of-five after an 80mph pursuit has been jailed for six years. ENDS

    Not a very lucrative "career" is it, fella?

    Why do you keep referring to fully-unqualified chav-cyclists as
    "drivers" when they haven't even got a licence?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Nov 15 16:04:06 2023
    On 15/11/2023 02:42 pm, Spike wrote:

    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    QUOTE: He also admitted possession of cannabis, and the offences he was
    wanted for at the time. He has more than 40 previous convictions.
    A career criminal who ploughed a stolen vehicle into a car carrying a
    family-of-five after an 80mph pursuit has been jailed for six years. ENDS
    Not a very lucrative "career" is it, fella?

    ‘Not a lucrative career’? Who mentioned money, then?

    Chav-cyclists are obsessed with lucre, particularly their own.

    Remember all the "Chav-cyclists are Considerably Richer Than Yow" posts
    from a few years back?

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 15 08:28:51 2023
    QUOTE: Poulton was arrested and taken to hospital to be treated for minor injuries after the crash, which happened just before 2pm on 30 April. ENDS

    Saw plenty of scum drivers with injuries when I was in hospital for 4 months handcuffed to police officers.
    One even got the last rites.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Wed Nov 15 16:30:53 2023
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 15/11/2023 02:42 pm, Spike wrote:

    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    QUOTE: He also admitted possession of cannabis, and the offences he was
    wanted for at the time. He has more than 40 previous convictions.
    A career criminal who ploughed a stolen vehicle into a car carrying a
    family-of-five after an 80mph pursuit has been jailed for six years. ENDS >>> Not a very lucrative "career" is it, fella?

    ‘Not a lucrative career’? Who mentioned money, then?

    Chav-cyclists are obsessed with lucre, particularly their own.

    They are, aren’t they? “My £200 sunglasses are much better than your £150 ones!” etc.

    Remember all the "Chav-cyclists are Considerably Richer Than Yow" posts
    from a few years back?

    I used to dip in to the group some years ago, but don’t specifically recall those posts.

    “Car-weapon” and “Bicycle-weapon” were terms I remember, though.

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    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 15 16:32:51 2023
    On 15/11/2023 04:28 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    QUOTE: Poulton was arrested and taken to hospital to be treated for minor injuries after the crash, which happened just before 2pm on 30 April. ENDS

    Saw plenty of scum drivers with injuries when I was in hospital for 4 months handcuffed to police officers.

    Why were you handcuffed to police officers for four months?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Nov 15 16:37:10 2023
    On 15/11/2023 04:30 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 15/11/2023 02:42 pm, Spike wrote:
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:

    QUOTE: He also admitted possession of cannabis, and the offences he was >>>> wanted for at the time. He has more than 40 previous convictions.
    A career criminal who ploughed a stolen vehicle into a car carrying a
    family-of-five after an 80mph pursuit has been jailed for six years. ENDS >>>> Not a very lucrative "career" is it, fella?

    ‘Not a lucrative career’? Who mentioned money, then?

    Chav-cyclists are obsessed with lucre, particularly their own.

    They are, aren’t they? “My £200 sunglasses are much better than your £150
    ones!” etc.

    Remember all the "Chav-cyclists are Considerably Richer Than Yow" posts
    from a few years back?

    I used to dip in to the group some years ago, but don’t specifically recall those posts.

    “Car-weapon” and “Bicycle-weapon” were terms I remember, though.

    "Car-weapon" was the coinage of Doug Bollen (of blessed memory; wherever
    he now is, I hope he's happy).

    "Bicycle-weapon" was probably Judith.

    IIRC, Judith also pointed out that claims to the effect that chavs on
    bikes were all insured against third party risks effectively meant that
    they were relying upon their household contents policy or, more
    amusingly, their fridge-freezer insurance.

    Well, I say "they were relying" but what they were really doing was
    making their victims rely upon it.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Wed Nov 15 17:06:39 2023
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 15/11/2023 04:28 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    Saw plenty of scum drivers with injuries when I was in hospital for 4
    months handcuffed to police officers.

    Why were you handcuffed to police officers for four months?

    Something to do with the Fentanyl he keeps mentioning?

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    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Wed Nov 15 17:18:13 2023
    On 15/11/2023 05:06 pm, Spike wrote:

    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 15/11/2023 04:28 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    Saw plenty of scum drivers with injuries when I was in hospital for 4
    months handcuffed to police officers.

    Why were you handcuffed to police officers for four months?

    Something to do with the Fentanyl he keeps mentioning?

    :-)

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 15 10:05:28 2023
    QUOTE: A career criminal who ploughed a stolen vehicle into a car carrying a family-of-five after an 80mph pursuit has been jailed for six years. ENDS

    Pathetic - just ONE YEAR for each victim?

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 15 13:35:16 2023
    2 days ago

    Perhaps one could be forgiven for suggesting that this piece of ****e should not have been given any hospital treatment and that it should not be released from prison until it has proven beyond any doubt that it will always be a decent member of society.

    ============================
    Fully agree - utter scum.

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 15 21:16:53 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    QUOTE: A career criminal who ploughed a stolen vehicle into a car
    carrying a family-of-five after an 80mph pursuit has been jailed for six years. ENDS


    Pathetic - just ONE YEAR for each victim?

    That’s not how the law works.

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    Spike

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Wed Nov 15 22:07:09 2023
    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    2 days ago

    Perhaps one could be forgiven for suggesting that this piece of ****e
    should not have been given any hospital treatment and that it should not
    be released from prison until it has proven beyond any doubt that it will always be a decent member of society.

    If the test of proving beyond any doubt that it would always be a decent
    member of society was applied to cyclists, what proportion would fail?


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    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Spike on Thu Nov 16 00:45:44 2023
    On 15/11/2023 10:07 pm, Spike wrote:

    Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
    2 days ago

    Perhaps one could be forgiven for suggesting that this piece of ****e
    should not have been given any hospital treatment and that it should not
    be released from prison until it has proven beyond any doubt that it will
    always be a decent member of society.

    If the test of proving beyond any doubt that it would always be a decent member of society was applied to cyclists, what proportion would fail?

    Well, we all know of one example.

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 15 23:59:36 2023
    QUOTE: Our Traffic officers spotted the stolen Ford EcoSport which was being driven by David Poulton near Dartmouth Circus.ENDS

    An "eco" car? - that will go down like a lead balloon with the knuckledraggers at the car meets.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Nov 16 16:46:52 2023
    On 16/11/2023 07:59 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    QUOTE: Our Traffic officers spotted the stolen Ford EcoSport which was being driven by David Poulton near Dartmouth Circus.ENDS

    An "eco" car? - that will go down like a lead balloon with the knuckledraggers at the car meets.

    Almost all modern cars have an "Eco" setting available.

    I rented an SUV for a few weeks in the USA last year - it definitely had
    an Eco mode, which I used all the time and got about 43 mpg USA (= c. 53
    mpg UK).

    Of course, old bangers - pedestrian deathtraps without functioning
    windscreen wipers, for instance - probably don't have such facilities.

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  • From Simon Mason@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 16 10:08:52 2023
    QUOTE: Sgt Richard Adams, of Birmingham CID, said: “This was an appalling case of dangerous driving. “He showed a complete disregard for other drivers, and once he decided to speed the wrong way down a busy road, a collision was inevitable. ENDS

    "Nobody was killed, can you put me down for "due care"?"

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