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    From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Jan 11 02:12:43 2024
    On 10/01/2024 04:43 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    Pretty much anyone who rides a bike in Britain’s towns and cities will know the feeling – you’re approaching a point in the road where the carriageway narrows to create a pinch point due to a traffic island and hear a driver rev their car’s
    engine behind you before choosing that exact point to overtake.

    That’s the scenario in today’s video in our Near Miss of the Day series, filmed last August in Surbiton, southwest London, by road.cc reader SRanger, who said he was disappointed that the driver received no more than a warning letter from police
    due to their stretched resources.

    “I am reaching out to bring attention to a concerning incident of a driver overtaking me too closely that occurred almost five months ago, captured on camera during cycling," he told us.

    “Despite the elapsed time, I believe sharing this footage remains relevant for raising awareness about road safety.”

    The footage shows that the driver, who passed SRanger with just inches to spare, was clearly travelling well in excess of the 20mph speed limit on the road where the incident happened, although as we often see in such cases, the cyclist – who then
    received another close pass from a different motorist, also at a traffic island – caught up with him at a set of traffic lights shortly afterwards.

    Pointing out that he is supposed to allow at least 1.5 metres when overtaking, the driver aggressively repeats the phrase, “What is it?” before telling SRanger, before shouting “Move my f*cking” car, the pair heading their different ways at the
    junction, but not before the cyclist tells the driver, “I’m calling the police.”

    In the video posted to YouTube, SRanger says: “The Met Prosecutions told me that the driver was issued with a warning letter because they were overwhelmed with reports.

    “This was disappointing to hear as warning letters are useless in changing the behaviour of drivers but at least something was done. You can blame the government for police funding cuts.

    “As for the gentleman, I really do hope he changes his behaviour or he will eventually be prosecuted,” he added.

    https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-886-fast-close-pass-pinch-point-306101

    Wouldn't it have been better and safer if the chav on the chav-bike,
    knowing that he was about to be overtaken by another vehicle, had slowed
    down and kept well to the left such that he was not within the
    restriction at the same time as the other vehicle?

    There are a few similar restrictions on the road where I live and it is
    a bus route. When I see a bus or other large vehicle entering the
    restriction from the opposite direction, I slow down or stop
    specifically in order not to be competing for the restricted space
    available. It's called "caution" or "driving sensibly". And the couple
    of seconds lost are negligible, especially when seen against the extra
    safety gained.

    Why are chavs unable to do the same on their chav-bikes?

    Are they just too thick and reckless (or both)?

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  • From Peter Keller@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu Jan 11 21:35:22 2024
    On 11/01/24 15:12, JNugent wrote:
    On 10/01/2024 04:43 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    Pretty much anyone who rides a bike in Britain’s towns and cities will
    know the feeling – you’re approaching a point in the road where the
    carriageway narrows to create a pinch point due to a traffic island
    and hear a driver rev their car’s engine behind you before choosing
    that exact point to overtake.

    That’s the scenario in today’s video in our Near Miss of the Day
    series, filmed last August in Surbiton, southwest London, by road.cc
    reader SRanger, who said he was disappointed that the driver received
    no more than a warning letter from police due to their stretched
    resources.

    “I am reaching out to bring attention to a concerning incident of a
    driver overtaking me too closely that occurred almost five months ago,
    captured on camera during cycling," he told us.

    “Despite the elapsed time, I believe sharing this footage remains
    relevant for raising awareness about road safety.”

    The footage shows that the driver, who passed SRanger with just inches
    to spare, was clearly travelling well in excess of the 20mph speed
    limit on the road where the incident happened, although as we often
    see in such cases, the cyclist – who then received another close pass
    from a different motorist, also at a traffic island – caught up with
    him at a set of traffic lights shortly afterwards.

    Pointing out that he is supposed to allow at least 1.5 metres when
    overtaking, the driver aggressively repeats the phrase, “What is it?”
    before telling SRanger, before shouting “Move my f*cking” car, the
    pair heading their different ways at the junction, but not before the
    cyclist tells the driver, “I’m calling the police.”

    In the video posted to YouTube, SRanger says: “The Met Prosecutions
    told me that the  driver was issued with a warning letter because they
    were overwhelmed with reports.

    “This was disappointing to hear as warning letters are useless in
    changing the behaviour of drivers but at least something was done. You
    can blame the government for police funding cuts.

    “As for the gentleman, I really do hope he changes his behaviour or he
    will eventually be prosecuted,” he added.

    https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-886-fast-close-pass-pinch-point-306101

    Wouldn't it have been better and safer if the chav on the chav-bike,
    knowing that he was about to be overtaken by another vehicle, had slowed
    down and kept well to the left such that he was not within the
    restriction at the same time as the other vehicle?

    There are a few similar restrictions on the road where I live and it is
    a bus route. When I see a bus or other large vehicle entering the
    restriction from the opposite direction, I slow down or stop
    specifically in order not to be competing for the restricted space
    available. It's called "caution" or "driving sensibly". And the couple
    of seconds lost are negligible, especially when seen against the extra
    safety gained.

    Why are chavs unable to do the same on their chav-bikes?

    Are they just too thick and reckless (or both)?

    Personally I am not that keen on explaining from Bed 13 of the ICU
    "But I had the right of way!"

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu Jan 11 09:47:15 2024
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 10/01/2024 04:43 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    The footage shows that the driver, who passed SRanger with just inches
    to spare, was clearly travelling well in excess of the 20mph speed limit
    on the road where the incident happened, although as we often see in
    such cases, the cyclist – who then received another close pass from a
    different motorist, also at a traffic island – caught up with him at a
    set of traffic lights shortly afterwards.

    So having failed to heed the first lesson in safe cycling, he goes on to
    make the same error only moments later!

    This surely is really a call for organised compulsory cyclist training.

    “As for the gentleman, I really do hope he changes his behaviour or he
    will eventually be prosecuted,” he added.

    As for the cyclist, it is to be hoped he changes his behaviour or he will eventually wind up in the back of an ambulance.

    https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-886-fast-close-pass-pinch-point-306101

    Wouldn't it have been better and safer if the chav on the chav-bike,
    knowing that he was about to be overtaken by another vehicle, had slowed
    down and kept well to the left such that he was not within the
    restriction at the same time as the other vehicle?

    Yes!

    There are a few similar restrictions on the road where I live and it is a
    bus route. When I see a bus or other large vehicle entering the
    restriction from the opposite direction, I slow down or stop specifically
    in order not to be competing for the restricted space
    available. It's called "caution" or "driving sensibly". And the couple of seconds lost are negligible, especially when seen against the extra safety gained.

    Why are chavs unable to do the same on their chav-bikes?

    “I am right! Even if misguided!”

    Are they just too thick and reckless (or both)?

    My money’s on both.

    --
    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Jan 11 10:22:35 2024
    On 11/01/2024 08:48 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    >>>>The Met Prosecutions told me that the driver was issued with a warning letter because they were overwhelmed with reports.

    "Guv, we're getting loads of reports coming in of crime [xyz] on our patch." "I know Constable; too many in fact. That's why I ask you all not to pursue the issue, to save police time."
    That seems like the polar opposite of how to set priorities!

    Obviously, English isn't your first language and the exercise of logic
    is something with which you are not familiar.

    You also apparently underestimate the amount of dislike of chavs on
    chav-bikes that exists among the general population of normal people.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Peter Keller on Thu Jan 11 10:20:54 2024
    On 11/01/2024 08:35 am, Peter Keller wrote:
    On 11/01/24 15:12, JNugent wrote:
    On 10/01/2024 04:43 pm, Simon Mason wrote:

    Pretty much anyone who rides a bike in Britain’s towns and cities
    will know the feeling – you’re approaching a point in the road where >>> the carriageway narrows to create a pinch point due to a traffic
    island and hear a driver rev their car’s engine behind you before
    choosing that exact point to overtake.

    That’s the scenario in today’s video in our Near Miss of the Day
    series, filmed last August in Surbiton, southwest London, by road.cc
    reader SRanger, who said he was disappointed that the driver received
    no more than a warning letter from police due to their stretched
    resources.

    “I am reaching out to bring attention to a concerning incident of a
    driver overtaking me too closely that occurred almost five months
    ago, captured on camera during cycling," he told us.

    “Despite the elapsed time, I believe sharing this footage remains
    relevant for raising awareness about road safety.”

    The footage shows that the driver, who passed SRanger with just
    inches to spare, was clearly travelling well in excess of the 20mph
    speed limit on the road where the incident happened, although as we
    often see in such cases, the cyclist – who then received another
    close pass from a different motorist, also at a traffic island –
    caught up with him at a set of traffic lights shortly afterwards.

    Pointing out that he is supposed to allow at least 1.5 metres when
    overtaking, the driver aggressively repeats the phrase, “What is it?” >>> before telling SRanger, before shouting “Move my f*cking” car, the
    pair heading their different ways at the junction, but not before the
    cyclist tells the driver, “I’m calling the police.”

    In the video posted to YouTube, SRanger says: “The Met Prosecutions
    told me that the  driver was issued with a warning letter because
    they were overwhelmed with reports.

    “This was disappointing to hear as warning letters are useless in
    changing the behaviour of drivers but at least something was done.
    You can blame the government for police funding cuts.

    “As for the gentleman, I really do hope he changes his behaviour or
    he will eventually be prosecuted,” he added.

    https://road.cc/content/news/nmotd-886-fast-close-pass-pinch-point-306101 >>>

    Wouldn't it have been better and safer if the chav on the chav-bike,
    knowing that he was about to be overtaken by another vehicle, had
    slowed down and kept well to the left such that he was not within the
    restriction at the same time as the other vehicle?

    There are a few similar restrictions on the road where I live and it
    is a bus route. When I see a bus or other large vehicle entering the
    restriction from the opposite direction, I slow down or stop
    specifically in order not to be competing for the restricted space
    available. It's called "caution" or "driving sensibly". And the couple
    of seconds lost are negligible, especially when seen against the extra
    safety gained.

    Why are chavs unable to do the same on their chav-bikes?

    Are they just too thick and reckless (or both)?

    Personally I am not that keen on explaining from Bed 13 of the ICU
    "But I had the right of way!"

    Well said, Peter, as always!

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  • From Spike@21:1/5 to JNugent on Thu Jan 11 12:54:11 2024
    JNugent <jnugent@mail.com> wrote:
    On 11/01/2024 08:48 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    The Met Prosecutions told me that the driver was issued with a
    warning letter because they were overwhelmed with reports.

    "Guv, we're getting loads of reports coming in of crime [xyz] on our patch." >> "I know Constable; too many in fact. That's why I ask you all not to
    pursue the issue, to save police time."
    That seems like the polar opposite of how to set priorities!

    Obviously, English isn't your first language and the exercise of logic
    is something with which you are not familiar.

    One wonders what Mason thinks of police ignoring cyclist RLJing and footway cycling. I’ll lay a bet he’ll be less sarcastic about those crimes.

    You also apparently underestimate the amount of dislike of chavs on chav-bikes that exists among the general population of normal people.

    --
    Spike

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Jan 11 15:38:15 2024
    On 11/01/2024 11:55 am, Simon Mason wrote:

    QUOTE: HoarseMann | 1 day ago
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    Also illegally smoking with a child in the vehicle; archetypal feckless father. ENDS

    Dirty bastard probably leaves his engine running outside schools as well...

    ...and driving his car without working windscreen wipers.

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Simon Mason on Thu Jan 11 15:40:24 2024
    On 11/01/2024 02:21 pm, Simon Mason wrote:
    QUOTE: Vehicle Emissions are by far the biggest contributor to air pollution around schools and are a significant health hazard. Children and babies are worst affected as they are still developing. It can aggravate conditions like asthma, and recent
    research from the World Health Organisation shows that air pollution may be damaging every organ and virtually every cell in the body.

    It’s responsible for 390 deaths per year in Staffordshire. Young people are 30% more likely to develop asthma due to air pollution.

    Air pollution can be 30% higher outside schools because of idling cars. Running your car whilst stationary and parked is also illegal. ENDS

    It ISN'T illegal per se.

    You know that.

    It MIGHT be illegal in certain circumstances. But those circumstances
    would have to be proven in order for the offence to subsist and be substantiated. I'm sure you concur, M'Lud.

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