Thousands of drivers were caught out in the first 24 hours of new traffic cameras going live in Liverpool city centre.
Less than two months ago, Liverpool Council was granted new powers to
punish people who flout specific regulations like driving through no
entry signs and zones dedicated for buses and taxis. Those found doing so face a penalty of a £70 fine.
Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
Thousands of drivers were caught out in the first 24 hours of new traffic
cameras going live in Liverpool city centre.
Less than two months ago, Liverpool Council was granted new powers to
punish people who flout specific regulations like driving through no
entry signs and zones dedicated for buses and taxis. Those found doing so
face a penalty of a £70 fine.
If cyclists were required to have number plates, the cameras could be used
to catch those who ride on pavements, ignore red lights, etc.
Perhaps the cyclist who intimidated a pedestrian before falling under a car would have learned not to ride on the pavement, avoiding killing herself
and the unjustified jailing of the pedestrian.
On 15/01/2024 08:43 pm, Brian wrote:
Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
Thousands of drivers were caught out in the first 24 hours of new traffic >>> cameras going live in Liverpool city centre.
Less than two months ago, Liverpool Council was granted new powers to
punish people who flout specific regulations like driving through no
entry signs and zones dedicated for buses and taxis. Those found doing so >>> face a penalty of a £70 fine.
If cyclists were required to have number plates, the cameras could be used >> to catch those who ride on pavements, ignore red lights, etc.
Perhaps the cyclist who intimidated a pedestrian before falling under a car >> would have learned not to ride on the pavement, avoiding killing herself
and the unjustified jailing of the pedestrian.
+1.
On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 8:43:25 PM UTC, Brian wrote:
If cyclists were required to have number plates, the cameras could be used >> to catch those who ride on pavements, ignore red lights, etc.
This is despite nearly 60 times more pedestrians being killed in
collisions with cars than bicycles, and many cyclists not being able to
reach even 20mph. In November, roads minister Baroness Vere said the Government has “no plans to introduce a mandatory registration scheme for cycle ownership” as the costs of doing so would outweigh the benefits and it would “deter many people from cycling”.
Duncan Dollimore, Cycling UK’s head of campaigns, told the PA news agency the proposals to regulate cycling are “impractical and unworkable”, and have been “repeatedly dismissed by successive governments”.
He added that more people are cycling due to the cost-of-living crisis
and the Government should “encourage people to cycle more, not less”.
Simon Munk, campaigns manager at London Cycling Campaign, said the
proposals have already been deemed “unworkable and costly to implement” by DfT officials.
Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 8:43:25 PM UTC, Brian wrote:
If cyclists were required to have number plates, the cameras could be
used to catch those who ride on pavements, ignore red lights, etc.
This is despite nearly 60 times more pedestrians being killed in
collisions with cars than bicycles, and many cyclists not being able to
reach even 20mph. In November, roads minister Baroness Vere said the
Government has “no plans to introduce a mandatory registration scheme
for cycle ownership” as the costs of doing so would outweigh the
benefits and it would “deter many people from cycling”.
Duncan Dollimore, Cycling UK’s head of campaigns, told the PA news
agency the proposals to regulate cycling are “impractical and
unworkable”, and have been “repeatedly dismissed by successive governments”.
He added that more people are cycling due to the cost-of-living crisis
and the Government should “encourage people to cycle more, not less”.
Simon Munk, campaigns manager at London Cycling Campaign, said the
proposals have already been deemed “unworkable and costly to implement” by DfT officials.
The problem with statistics is, fools are easily misled by other fools who use them.
This may help you understand, if you ask someone numerate to explain it to you:
https://www.cyclinguk.org/statistics
( In simple terms, the number of trips by cycle is tiny compared to the number of trips via car. Correct for that and you don’t come out so well)
QUOTE:
An update on the city’s parking strategy confirmed more than 4,000 motorists had been caught flouting the rules between November 20 and December 14. ENDS
4000 law breaking drivers, you say?
Keeps the council tax bill low, I suppose.
QUOTE:
An update on the city’s parking strategy confirmed more than 4,000 motorists had been caught flouting the rules between November 20 and December 14. ENDS
4000 law breaking drivers, you say?
Keeps the council tax bill low, I suppose.
On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 2:52:22 PM UTC, Brian wrote:
Simon Mason <swldx...@gmail.com> wrote:
QUOTE:
An update on the city’s parking strategy confirmed more than 4,000
motorists had been caught flouting the rules between November 20 and December 14. ENDS
4000 law breaking drivers, you say?
Keeps the council tax bill low, I suppose.
Again, adjust for the number of miles travelled and the lack of enforced
against cyclists and the picture changes somewhat.
Cyclists do not smoke when riding and their water bottles get reused.
Brian <noinv@lid.org> wrote:
Simon Mason <swldxer1958@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, January 15, 2024 at 8:43:25 PM UTC, Brian wrote:
If cyclists were required to have number plates, the cameras could be
used to catch those who ride on pavements, ignore red lights, etc.
This is despite nearly 60 times more pedestrians being killed in
collisions with cars than bicycles, and many cyclists not being able to
reach even 20mph. In November, roads minister Baroness Vere said the
Government has “no plans to introduce a mandatory registration scheme
for cycle ownership” as the costs of doing so would outweigh the
benefits and it would “deter many people from cycling”.
Duncan Dollimore, Cycling UK’s head of campaigns, told the PA news
agency the proposals to regulate cycling are “impractical and
unworkable”, and have been “repeatedly dismissed by successive governments”.
He added that more people are cycling due to the cost-of-living crisis
and the Government should “encourage people to cycle more, not less”.
Simon Munk, campaigns manager at London Cycling Campaign, said the
proposals have already been deemed “unworkable and costly to implement” by DfT officials.
The problem with statistics is, fools are easily misled by other fools who use them.
This may help you understand, if you ask someone numerate to explain it to you:
https://www.cyclinguk.org/statistics
( In simple terms, the number of trips by cycle is tiny compared to the
number of trips via car. Correct for that and you don’t come out so well)
I’ll spell it out for him…
Motor vehicle mileage is 60 times that of cycling mileage, so on that basis alone cyclists are no safer than motor vehicles as far as pedestrians are concerned.
But in order to sex-up the comparisons, cyclists condemn themselves out of their own mouths. This is because they claim that many cyclists are unable
to reach “even 20mph”.
In other words, the pedestrian slaughter-rate by cyclists, on a per-mile basis, is comparable to that of motor vehicles, despite travelling much slower.
Something is seriously wrong in the cycling world, and it’s enough for those who can think to avoid taking up cycling. The others don’t matter, they are simply ‘useful fools’ to fuel the cyclist crusade.
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