Pamela wrote:

On the BBC Sounds app there's a channel called "News" that has a lot of election coverage.

The text in the channel icon says "News" but the channel title is
"Election 2024"

I missed any announcement to do with the launch of this channel. Is it only for the election and will be discontinued afterwards?

Has there been any statement from the BBC about the programmming, which
seems to come partly from Radio 4? (Google gets my search about this mixed up with other queries about news.)

As you say, it's just a hodge-podge of programmes from other channels,

<https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/schedules/bbc_sounds_news>

can't see it hanging around much beyond July 5th ...

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Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

I didn't come across any BBC announcement of this "News" channel.

https://radiotoday.co.uk/2024/06/bbc-creates-pop-up-election-station-on-bbc-sounds/

As there are several internationally significant elections coming up, I wonder if the BBC's intention is to continue broadcasting until later this year?

It finishes 8th July, according to the above.

I'm not sure the BBC has enough output for a rolling election channel after then, even if you glued together output from BBC World News America, BBC
World Service, etc. As it is Election 2024 has gaps in the schedule where there are no relevant radio programmes and presumably they just broadcast
the audio of the News TV channel.

Theo

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In article <bCF*As6Nz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

Pamela <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote:

I didn't come across any BBC announcement of this "News" channel.

https://radiotoday.co.uk/2024/06/bbc-creates-pop-up-election-station-on-bbc-sounds/

As there are several internationally significant elections coming up, I wonder if the BBC's intention is to continue broadcasting until later
this year?

It finishes 8th July, according to the above.

I'm not sure the BBC has enough output for a rolling election channel
after then, even if you glued together output from BBC World News
America, BBC World Service, etc. As it is Election 2024 has gaps in the schedule where there are no relevant radio programmes and presumably they just broadcast the audio of the News TV channel.

Shades of "Skud FM"

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té²
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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On 28/06/2024 16:35, JMB99 wrote:

On 28/06/2024 15:00, charles wrote:

Shades of "Skud FM"

As if we are not getting enough election coverage! Surprised one of the commercial channels has not put on an election free zone channel!

I have managed to avoid all the PEBs, all the 'debates' and most of the election news coverage.

Most of the higher numbered Freeview channels are election free, apart
from their routine news bulletins. Some of my favoured channels are
entirely news free anyway.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

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On 28/06/2024 15:00, charles wrote:

Shades of "Skud FM"

As if we are not getting enough election coverage! Surprised one of the commercial channels has not put on an election free zone channel!

I have managed to avoid all the PEBs, all the 'debates' and most of the election news coverage.

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In message <5b7818e224charles@candehope.me.uk> at Fri, 28 Jun 2024
14:00:02, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> writes

In article <bCF*As6Nz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo ><theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

[]

I'm not sure the BBC has enough output for a rolling election channel
after then, even if you glued together output from BBC World News
America, BBC World Service, etc. As it is Election 2024 has gaps in the

I'm sure they could scrape together enough - plenty of elections from
around the world.

schedule where there are no relevant radio programmes and presumably they
just broadcast the audio of the News TV channel.

Shades of "Skud FM"

I am reminded of I think it was Falklands time. They created a special
station; I don't remember the name (and I'm not talking of the rather
unsubtle one that broadcast from Ascension to the Argentinean
occupiers). In those days there weren't pop-up facilities like today, so
they must have usurped Radio 1 FM or something.

Anyway, I remember one of the comedy shows doing a little sketch about dislodging the occupants when the "show" was over. The line I
particularly remember was something like "Come out, Hanrahan; the studio
is surrounded."
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Of course I live in the past, everything's so much cheaper

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In message <5b784c612ccharles@candehope.me.uk> at Fri, 28 Jun 2024
22:45:03, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> writes

In article <iCg4krVkfwfmFw$A@255soft.uk>, J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> >wrote:

In message <5b7818e224charles@candehope.me.uk> at Fri, 28 Jun 2024
14:00:02, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> writes

In article <bCF*As6Nz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

[]

I'm not sure the BBC has enough output for a rolling election channel
after then, even if you glued together output from BBC World News
America, BBC World Service, etc. As it is Election 2024 has gaps in
the

I'm sure they could scrape together enough - plenty of elections from
around the world.

schedule where there are no relevant radio programmes and presumably
they just broadcast the audio of the News TV channel.

Shades of "Skud FM"

I am reminded of I think it was Falklands time. They created a special
station; I don't remember the name (and I'm not talking of the rather
unsubtle one that broadcast from Ascension to the Argentinean
occupiers). In those days there weren't pop-up facilities like today, so
they must have usurped Radio 1 FM or something.

Ascension had a number of World Service short wave transmitters.

As I said, I was NOT talking about the - basically - propaganda station
they set up to broadcast to Argentinian troops on the Falklands. I was
talking about a special station set up for the home - Britain -
audience, for the duration of the events.

Anyway, I remember one of the comedy shows doing a little sketch about
dislodging the occupants when the "show" was over. The line I
particularly remember was something like "Come out, Hanrahan; the studio
is surrounded."

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Often at work I wish they'd pay me what I'm worth, but sometimes I'm glad they don't. (BrritSki, in uk.media.radio.archers, on 2000-12-25.)

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In article <iCg4krVkfwfmFw$A@255soft.uk>, J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

In message <5b7818e224charles@candehope.me.uk> at Fri, 28 Jun 2024
14:00:02, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> writes

In article <bCF*As6Nz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo ><theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

[]

I'm not sure the BBC has enough output for a rolling election channel
after then, even if you glued together output from BBC World News
America, BBC World Service, etc. As it is Election 2024 has gaps in
the

I'm sure they could scrape together enough - plenty of elections from
around the world.

schedule where there are no relevant radio programmes and presumably
they just broadcast the audio of the News TV channel.

Shades of "Skud FM"

I am reminded of I think it was Falklands time. They created a special station; I don't remember the name (and I'm not talking of the rather unsubtle one that broadcast from Ascension to the Argentinean
occupiers). In those days there weren't pop-up facilities like today, so
they must have usurped Radio 1 FM or something.

Ascension had a number of World Service short wave transmitters.

Anyway, I remember one of the comedy shows doing a little sketch about dislodging the occupants when the "show" was over. The line I
particularly remember was something like "Come out, Hanrahan; the studio
is surrounded."

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4té²
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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On 28/06/2024 11:37, Theo wrote:

I'm not sure the BBC has enough output for a rolling election channel after then, even if you glued together output from BBC World News America, BBC World Service, etc.

Lack of material has never stopped TV news channels - they just repeat
the same things over and over again.

They work on the principle of people tuning in and wanting the latest
news, not the small number of weird people who listen all day and
complain of repeats.

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On 28/06/2024 19:58, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

I am reminded of I think it was Falklands time. They created a special station; I don't remember the name (and I'm not talking of the rather unsubtle one that broadcast from Ascension to the Argentinean occupiers).

Didn't they use Long Wave?

I seem to remember we could not hear it here because Long Wave is just
about useless and of course nowadays most people do not have a Long Wave receiver.

They could now use a DAB pop-up service but I don't think there would be
much interest.

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On 29/06/2024 10:21, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

(And the subtitles moved to the top of the screen, rather than the
position that was acceptable 40 years ago. They do it for the headlines
and the weather, so why not move the default.)

It is not unknown for subtitles to positioned in different areas of the
screen. Did not see it, I rarely have the TV on during the day and
never seen that programme.

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In message <v5oar1$3q8lu$1@dont-email.me> at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 07:50:09,
JMB99 <mb@nospam.net> writes
[]

Lack of material has never stopped TV news channels - they just repeat
the same things over and over again.

Boy, do they.

They work on the principle of people tuning in and wanting the latest
news, not the small number of weird people who listen all day and
complain of repeats.

I think that's their _excuse_, but it's a bit thin. I don't think it's
that small a number - especially if you include those like me who
sometimes switch to a news channel when the ad.s come on on the channel
they're watching something else on, and the large number of food and
drink outlets who have the news channel on permanently, muted and with subtitles turned on.

I still think any material over (to be argued: I'd say somewhere between
15 and 60, possibly depending on type) minutes old ought to be
timestamped in the video.

(And the subtitles moved to the top of the screen, rather than the
position that was acceptable 40 years ago. They do it for the headlines
and the weather, so why not move the default.)

Hey: I've just noticed Saturday Kitchen Live _has_ moved the subtitles
to the top! Oh, I spoke too soon - they're back at the bottom again
(just in time to obscure a caption, of course). Must just have been at
the top for a minute or two. (I don't watch SKL, it just came on after
whatever was before.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I'd rather trust the guys in the lab coats who aren't demanding that I get up early on Sundays to apologize for being human.
-- Captain Splendid (quoted by "The Real Bev" in mozilla.general, 2014-11-16)

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On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 11:06:35 +0100, JMB99 wrote:

On 29/06/2024 10:21, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

(And the subtitles moved to the top of the screen, rather than the
position that was acceptable 40 years ago. They do it for the headlines
and the weather, so why not move the default.)

It is not unknown for subtitles to positioned in different areas of the screen. Did not see it, I rarely have the TV on during the day and
never seen that programme.

Some subtitles are coloured to indicate different peope talking, one colouration is dark green on black and I
can't read it. Do bbc not have pink or orange.

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On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 22:45:03 +0000, charles wrote:

In article <iCg4krVkfwfmFw$A@255soft.uk>, J. P. Gilliver
<G6JPG@255soft.uk>
wrote:

In message <5b7818e224charles@candehope.me.uk> at Fri, 28 Jun 2024
14:00:02, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> writes

In article <bCF*As6Nz@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:

[]

I'm not sure the BBC has enough output for a rolling election
channel after then, even if you glued together output from BBC World
News America, BBC World Service, etc. As it is Election 2024 has
gaps in the

I'm sure they could scrape together enough - plenty of elections from
around the world.

schedule where there are no relevant radio programmes and presumably
they just broadcast the audio of the News TV channel.

Shades of "Skud FM"

I am reminded of I think it was Falklands time. They created a special
station; I don't remember the name (and I'm not talking of the rather
unsubtle one that broadcast from Ascension to the Argentinean
occupiers). In those days there weren't pop-up facilities like today,
so they must have usurped Radio 1 FM or something.

Ascension had a number of World Service short wave transmitters.

Anyway, I remember one of the comedy shows doing a little sketch about
dislodging the occupants when the "show" was over. The line I
particularly remember was something like "Come out, Hanrahan; the
studio is surrounded."

I applied for one of the Ascension Islands transmitter installation jobs, but not suitable.

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In message <v5pda0$gmd$1@dont-email.me> at Sat, 29 Jun 2024 16:38:24,
Smolley <me@rest.uk> writes

On Sat, 29 Jun 2024 11:06:35 +0100, JMB99 wrote:

On 29/06/2024 10:21, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

(And the subtitles moved to the top of the screen, rather than the
position that was acceptable 40 years ago. They do it for the headlines
and the weather, so why not move the default.)

It is not unknown for subtitles to positioned in different areas of the
screen. Did not see it, I rarely have the TV on during the day and
never seen that programme.

Some subtitles are coloured to indicate different peope talking, one >colouration is dark green on black and I
can't read it. Do bbc not have pink or orange.

They certainly have other than black for the background, but are
reluctant to use it.

At least it's better than the sort of subtitles that have a thin outline
rather than a black rectangle; those always become illegible when over
some kinds of image material.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The trouble with the death penalty has always been that nobody wanted it for everybody, but everybody differed about who should get off. - Albert Pierrepoint, in his 1974 autobiography.

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