Normally BBC spread coverage between BBC1, BBC2, BBC4 and Red Button / >iPlayer. But this year they do not seem to be using BBC4, is this
because of reduced coverage with Discovery's owning the rights or the
BBC's obsession with Red Button / iPlayer (which many hate!). It is
much easier to flip to and from BBC4 than Red Button / iPlayer.
Normally BBC spread coverage between BBC1, BBC2, BBC4 and Red Button / iPlayer. But this year they do not seem to be using BBC4,
Normally BBC spread coverage between BBC1, BBC2, BBC4 and Red Button / iPlayer. But this year they do not seem to be using BBC4, is this
because of reduced coverage with Discovery's owning the rights or the
BBC's obsession with Red Button / iPlayer (which many hate!). It is
much easier to flip to and from BBC4 than Red Button / iPlayer.
Normally BBC spread coverage between BBC1, BBC2, BBC4 and Red Button / iPlayer. But this year they do not seem to be using BBC4, is this
because of reduced coverage with Discovery's owning the rights or the
BBC's obsession with Red Button / iPlayer (which many hate!). It is
much easier to flip to and from BBC4 than Red Button / iPlayer.
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:09:17 +0100, JMB99 wrote:
Normally BBC spread coverage between BBC1, BBC2, BBC4 and Red Button / iPlayer. But this year they do not seem to be using BBC4, is this
because of reduced coverage with Discovery's owning the rights or the
BBC's obsession with Red Button / iPlayer (which many hate!). It is
much easier to flip to and from BBC4 than Red Button / iPlayer.
I have often seen the 'Red Button' spoken of, but have no idea what it is.
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:09:17 +0100, JMB99 wrote:
Normally BBC spread coverage between BBC1, BBC2, BBC4 and Red Button /
iPlayer. But this year they do not seem to be using BBC4, is this
because of reduced coverage with Discovery's owning the rights or the
BBC's obsession with Red Button / iPlayer (which many hate!). It is
much easier to flip to and from BBC4 than Red Button / iPlayer.
I have often seen the 'Red Button' spoken of, but have no idea what it is.
Freeview remote controls have a red button (one of the four coloured
buttons like yellow, green and blue) which selects one of the "Red
Button" channels such as "BBC Red Button" (channel 250), "BBC RB1" (601)
and other channels which only exist for a short time during sporting
events such as Wimbledon or Olympics. Shame that *all* sport can't be consigned to RB channels or a dedicated sports channel where one sport
can interrupt another to its heart's content, and leave normal same-time-every-week scheduled programmes to continue unabated. But I'm
sure that is a minority point of view 😉 I may suggest it humorously but
I would never want to foist my views on the majority who actually enjoy watching sport.
Not available during the day?
I can see the benefit of slowmo replays for the equestrian events, but
do we really need "bullet time" replays where the camera twirls round a stationary horse floating in mid-air?
In article <v88rb6$kbou$1@dont-email.me>,
jon <reading.mostly@crap.org> wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:09:17 +0100, JMB99 wrote:
Normally BBC spread coverage between BBC1, BBC2, BBC4 and Red Button
/
iPlayer. But this year they do not seem to be using BBC4, is this
because of reduced coverage with Discovery's owning the rights or the
BBC's obsession with Red Button / iPlayer (which many hate!). It is
much easier to flip to and from BBC4 than Red Button / iPlayer.
I have often seen the 'Red Button' spoken of, but have no idea what it
is.
on your tv remote control there is a RED button. Push it and see.
Normally BBC spread coverage between BBC1, BBC2, BBC4 and Red Button / iPlayer. But this year they do not seem to be using BBC4, is this
because of reduced coverage with Discovery's owning the rights or the
BBC's obsession with Red Button / iPlayer (which many hate!). It is
much easier to flip to and from BBC4 than Red Button / iPlayer.
On 29/07/2024 12:09, JMB99 wrote:
Normally BBC spread coverage between BBC1, BBC2, BBC4 and Red Button /
iPlayer. But this year they do not seem to be using BBC4, is this
because of reduced coverage with Discovery's owning the rights or the
BBC's obsession with Red Button / iPlayer (which many hate!). It is
much easier to flip to and from BBC4 than Red Button / iPlayer.
I heard on the radio yesterday that there's some strange licensing deal
that cuts the BBC out of half the coverage this year as it's spread
across more UK networks, some of which are pay-to-view.
Another nail in Aunty's coffin...
In article <v88rb6$kbou$1@dont-email.me>,
jon <reading.mostly@crap.org> wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 12:09:17 +0100, JMB99 wrote:
Normally BBC spread coverage between BBC1, BBC2, BBC4 and Red Button /
iPlayer. But this year they do not seem to be using BBC4, is this
because of reduced coverage with Discovery's owning the rights or the
BBC's obsession with Red Button / iPlayer (which many hate!). It is
much easier to flip to and from BBC4 than Red Button / iPlayer.
I have often seen the 'Red Button' spoken of, but have no idea what it is.
on your tv remote control there is a RED button. Push it and see.
They are very restricted. I think only two 'programme streams' at any
one time. So basically one TV channel, and one Red Button feed.
I read they are not even allowed to have overlapping on BBC 1 and 2 (or
3/4) not even to 'handover' coverage of something (a la Wimbledon)
On 30/07/2024 13:04, Max Demian wrote:
The Red Button just allows you to select one (or maybe two) extraThe thing that's been annoying me recently is that a number of channels
channels on Freeview. It's to make people think Freeview is interactive.
on Freeview are only available if you have the set connected to the
internet, and even those, on my fairly old TV, need a wired Ethernet connection to work. It connects to the wifi, and shows up on the network
from other devices, but actually watch TV? You've got to be 'avin' a larf.
The Red Button just allows you to select one (or maybe two) extra
channels on Freeview. It's to make people think Freeview is interactive.
I presume internet TV channels cannot be recorded locally on a PVR and
can only be watched by live streaming (needing an internet connection at
the point of watching) for as long as the programme remains available on
the broadcaster's server. And you can't edit adverts out of the
programme as I do with anything I record.
On 30/07/2024 13:36, John Williamson wrote:
On 30/07/2024 13:04, Max Demian wrote:
The Red Button just allows you to select one (or maybe two) extraThe thing that's been annoying me recently is that a number of channels
channels on Freeview. It's to make people think Freeview is interactive. >>>
on Freeview are only available if you have the set connected to the
internet, and even those, on my fairly old TV, need a wired Ethernet
connection to work. It connects to the wifi, and shows up on the network
from other devices, but actually watch TV? You've got to be 'avin' a
larf.
Get used to the idea, by 2035 it may be the only way to watch 'TV'.
On 30/07/2024 13:52, NY wrote:
I presume internet TV channels cannot be recorded locally on a PVR and
can only be watched by live streaming (needing an internet connection at
the point of watching) for as long as the programme remains available on
the broadcaster's server. And you can't edit adverts out of the
programme as I do with anything I record.
If it can be watched, there is a way to record it. The current lack of
ways to do this is due to lawsuits, not technology.
Many of the programmes are also available on outlets such as Youtube
which are not encrypted.
On 30/07/2024 13:36, John Williamson wrote:
On 30/07/2024 13:04, Max Demian wrote:
The Red Button just allows you to select one (or maybe two) extraThe thing that's been annoying me recently is that a number of channels
channels on Freeview. It's to make people think Freeview is interactive. >>>
on Freeview are only available if you have the set connected to the
internet, and even those, on my fairly old TV, need a wired Ethernet
connection to work. It connects to the wifi, and shows up on the network
from other devices, but actually watch TV? You've got to be 'avin' a larf.
Get used to the idea, by 2035 it may be the only way to watch 'TV'.
I read they are not even allowed to have overlapping on BBC 1 and 2 (or
3/4) not even to 'handover' coverage of something (a la Wimbledon)
one of the "Red
Button" channels such as "BBC Red Button" (channel 250), "BBC RB1" (601)
and other channels which only exist for a short time during sporting
events such as Wimbledon or Olympics.
Shame that *all* sport can't be
consigned to RB channels or a dedicated sports channel where one sport
can interrupt another to its heart's content, and leave normal same-time-every-week scheduled programmes to continue unabated.
On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 22:18:51 +0100, NY <me@privacy.net> wrote:
one of the "Red
Button" channels such as "BBC Red Button" (channel 250), "BBC RB1" (601)
and other channels which only exist for a short time during sporting
events such as Wimbledon or Olympics.
"...used to exist..."
They've all been canned, for rights and costs reasons.
Shame that *all* sport can't be
consigned to RB channels or a dedicated sports channel where one sport
can interrupt another to its heart's content, and leave normal
same-time-every-week scheduled programmes to continue unabated.
Why can't we have a channel for the same old boring shit week in, week out, where people who desire such stuff can consume it?
Oh, hang on, we've got several dozen of those already.
Whinge on NY, whinge on.
Except that it does happen, typically at the 1800 and 1900 junctions, if warranted, albeit only for a few seconds rather than a few minutes that is sometimes the case with W.
Why can't we have a channel for the same old boring shit week in, week out, where people who desire such stuff can consume it?
Oh, hang on, we've got several dozen of those already.
The worst is when a live event overruns. Then it gets bumped at very
short notice to next week, or another day, or another channel. My
feeling is that once it has appeared in a listings magazine or the
on-air EPG, it is cast in stone and nothing short of a major catastrophe should shift it. Let the over-running programme continue somewhere else, since it is more likely that someone will be watching that live and so
can respond to "continued on another channel" announcements, whereas
other things may be scheduled to be recorded, and PVRs can't usually
process "continued on another channel" announcements or late-breaking
changes to the EPG.
I am sure we all have things that we wished were put on a dedicated
channel or only broadcast in the middle of the night.
On 30/07/2024 13:52, NY wrote:
I presume internet TV channels cannot be recorded locally on a PVR and
can only be watched by live streaming (needing an internet connection
at the point of watching) for as long as the programme remains
available on the broadcaster's server. And you can't edit adverts out
of the programme as I do with anything I record.
If it can be watched, there is a way to record it. The current lack of
ways to do this is due to lawsuits, not technology.
Many of the programmes are also available on outlets such as Youtube
which are not encrypted.
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