• Digiguide TV lisitings software - contacting them to renew my subscript

    From NY@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 14 09:27:03 2025
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    Does anyone use the Digiguide for Windows TV listing package? It lists forthcoming TV listings for the next fortnight or so.

    My subscription to them is about to expire and I have paid (by BACS bank transfer) to renew it. But noting is happening: the order status is still showing "Pending bank transfer" about a week later.

    All attempts to contact the company have failed: their phone always gives me
    an "Please wait" message and emails to various addresses either bounce or
    else are not answered.

    I wondered whether anyone has renewed successfully and have got a contact
    for a human being who can resolve things.

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  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 14 09:55:42 2025
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 2025-05-14 09:27, NY wrote:

    Does anyone use the Digiguide for Windows TV listing package? It lists forthcoming TV listings for the next fortnight or so.

    My subscription to them is about to expire and I have paid (by BACS bank transfer) to renew it. But noting is happening: the order status is
    still showing "Pending bank transfer" about a week later.

    All attempts to contact the company have failed: their phone always
    gives me an "Please wait" message and emails to various addresses either bounce or else are not answered.

    I wondered whether anyone has renewed successfully and have got a
    contact for a human being who can resolve things.

    This also happened to me last November. In all the below, the Digiguide
    a c c o u n t used was as follows (spaced to prevent data trawling):

    a c c o u n t s @ d i g i g u i d e . t v

    The correspondence was as follows ...

    "Hi [anonymised]

    Thanks for your request to pay by Bank Transfer. You will find our bank
    details below:

    Bank: [anonymised]
    Sort Code: [anonymised]
    Account Number: [anonymised]
    Account Name: [anonymised]

    International Transfers
    SWIFTBIC: [anonymised]
    IBAN: [anonymised]

    Your payment should for [anonymised]

    IMPORTANT: Please quote your Surname and Invoice Number #[anonymised]
    with the payment.

    Once you have sent the payment please let me know your invoice number #[anonymised] and I will look out for your payment and process your
    renewal on receipt. Payments usually take 3 working days depending on
    which bank you use.

    Kindest regards
    The Digiguide Team"

    ... but around 37hrs after I'd paid I still wasn't getting any listings,
    so I replied to that email as follows ...

    "Hi,

    Paid this over the weekend, so should go through today as per attached
    payment details in my bank account. As requested, I added the tag "[anonymised]" to the payment, but cannot see any evidence of this in my
    bank details of the payment. Meanwhile, the program is not allowing me
    to update.

    Regards, [anonymised].

    PS: Also attached is a screen grab of how your emails appear to me, viz
    dark grey ink on a black background. As you can see, I'm using an
    up-to-date version of Thunderbird with the dark colour scheme chosen.
    Your email system is somewhere failing to set *BOTH* ink and background colours, letting one of them default - see the following link for
    further details - resulting in black or near-black over black, or
    white or near-white over white. Either set *NEITHER* or else *BOTH* ink
    and background colours, not just one of them:

    https://www.macfh.co.uk/Test/ColourSchemesBugs.html"

    ... and a day later I received the following ...

    "Hi [anonymised]

    Thank you for renewing your subscription to Digiguide for Windows for 12 months.

    Your new subscription expiry date is: [anonymised].

    The next time you do an update or login to Digiguide for Windows, it
    will be automatically updated with this latest subscription information.

    [etc]"


    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Wed May 14 12:39:06 2025
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    "Java Jive" <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote in message news:1001pav$2eftl$1@dont-email.me...
    On 2025-05-14 09:27, NY wrote:

    Does anyone use the Digiguide for Windows TV listing package? It lists
    forthcoming TV listings for the next fortnight or so.

    My subscription to them is about to expire and I have paid (by BACS bank
    transfer) to renew it. But noting is happening: the order status is still
    showing "Pending bank transfer" about a week later.

    All attempts to contact the company have failed: their phone always gives
    me an "Please wait" message and emails to various addresses either bounce
    or else are not answered.

    I wondered whether anyone has renewed successfully and have got a contact
    for a human being who can resolve things.

    This also happened to me last November. In all the below, the Digiguide a
    c c o u n t used was as follows (spaced to prevent data trawling):

    a c c o u n t s @ d i g i g u i d e . t v

    The correspondence was as follows ...

    "Hi [anonymised]

    Thanks for your request to pay by Bank Transfer. You will find our bank details below:

    Bank: [anonymised]
    Sort Code: [anonymised]
    Account Number: [anonymised]
    Account Name: [anonymised]

    International Transfers
    SWIFTBIC: [anonymised]
    IBAN: [anonymised]

    Your payment should for [anonymised]

    IMPORTANT: Please quote your Surname and Invoice Number #[anonymised] with the payment.

    Once you have sent the payment please let me know your invoice number #[anonymised] and I will look out for your payment and process your
    renewal on receipt. Payments usually take 3 working days depending on
    which bank you use.

    Kindest regards
    The Digiguide Team"

    ... but around 37hrs after I'd paid I still wasn't getting any listings,
    so I replied to that email as follows ...

    "Hi,

    Paid this over the weekend, so should go through today as per attached payment details in my bank account. As requested, I added the tag "[anonymised]" to the payment, but cannot see any evidence of this in my
    bank details of the payment. Meanwhile, the program is not allowing me to update.

    Regards, [anonymised].

    PS: Also attached is a screen grab of how your emails appear to me, viz
    dark grey ink on a black background. As you can see, I'm using an
    up-to-date version of Thunderbird with the dark colour scheme chosen. Your email system is somewhere failing to set *BOTH* ink and background
    colours, letting one of them default - see the following link for further details - resulting in black or near-black over black, or white or near-white over white. Either set *NEITHER* or else *BOTH* ink and
    background colours, not just one of them:

    https://www.macfh.co.uk/Test/ColourSchemesBugs.html"

    ... and a day later I received the following ...

    "Hi [anonymised]

    Thank you for renewing your subscription to Digiguide for Windows for 12 months.

    Your new subscription expiry date is: [anonymised].

    The next time you do an update or login to Digiguide for Windows, it will
    be automatically updated with this latest subscription information.



    That's what I was doing. Pretty much a carbon-copy of what you did.

    But... when I examined my bank transaction, I'd got an out-of-date invoice number from several years ago. I'm sure I pasted the new invoice number into the bank website, but maybe I didn't.

    I've now emailed a c c o u n t s @ d i g i g u i d e . t v to say "My
    reference was [reference copied from bank transaction] but the invoice is actually [new invoice number]".

    I wonder if it will work. It would have been useful (as I pointed out in my email) if they had emailed me to say "sorry, we can't trace a transaction
    with the reference you originally quoted" rather than "responding" with a deafening silence.

    They seem to have big problems. Their web address www.ebs.tv (quoted on the
    app help screen) redirects to a website for PA Media who I presume are the
    new owners. The Facebook link that they quote goes to something with a
    vaguely similar name which as far as I can tell is unrelated. Their phone is never answered and emails are never answered. Sounds a real Michael [small rodent] operation ;-)

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Thu May 15 16:18:03 2025
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    "Java Jive" <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote in message news:1001pav$2eftl$1@dont-email.me...
    This also happened to me last November. In all the below, the Digiguide a
    c c o u n t used was as follows (spaced to prevent data trawling):

    a c c o u n t s @ d i g i g u i d e . t v

    JJ, just thought you'd like to know that when I sent a second email to a c c
    o u n t s@, giving the (incorrect) BACS ID that I'd used, and the correct invoice number that I should have used, I had no response whatsoever. Their email system isn't even set up to respond to a "read acknowledgement" flag
    that I attached to that email to detect if a person had read the email.

    I trawled back through my old emails from when I had problems renewing in
    the past, and found a few more email addresses to try, and one of them
    elicited a response from someone who said he'd asked their accounts
    department to investigate. Within a few minutes of that email, I had the automated one saying that my subscription have been updated - and indeed everything is as I would expect. I suggested to the person who replied to my final email that lessons needed to be learned: mainly that they need to communicate with their customers if they are given an incorrect BACS ID that doesn't match the invoice number and which is clearly (from the numerical sequence) a long way out of date. And that when I sent them the correct
    info, they should have responded. Their failure to respond at all to several emails made me wonder whether Digiguide had gone out of business and my
    money had disappeared into a black hole. Hopefully they take those comments
    on board!

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  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 15 19:15:19 2025
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 2025-05-15 16:18, NY wrote:
    "Java Jive" <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote in message news:1001pav$2eftl$1@dont-email.me...
    This also happened to me last November.  In all the below, the
    Digiguide a c c o u n t  used was as follows (spaced to prevent data
    trawling):

    a c c o u n t s @ d i g i g u i d e . t v

    JJ, just thought you'd like to know that when I sent a second email to a
    c c o u n t s@, giving the (incorrect) BACS ID that I'd used, and the
    correct invoice number that I should have used, I had no response
    whatsoever. Their email system isn't even set up to respond to a "read acknowledgement" flag that I attached to that email to detect if a
    person had read the email.

    I trawled back through my old emails from when I had problems renewing
    in the past, and found a few more email addresses to try, and one of
    them elicited a response from someone who said he'd asked their accounts department to investigate. Within a few minutes of that email, I had the automated one saying that my subscription have been updated - and indeed everything is as I would expect. I suggested to the person who replied
    to my final email that lessons needed to be learned: mainly that they
    need to communicate with their customers if they are given an incorrect
    BACS ID that doesn't match the invoice number and which is clearly (from
    the numerical sequence) a long way out of date. And that when I sent
    them the correct info, they should have responded. Their failure to
    respond at all to several emails made me wonder whether Digiguide had
    gone out of business and my money had disappeared into a black hole. Hopefully they take those comments on board!

    Glad you've got things fixed. If you are willing, please PM me the
    email address that worked, using the contact address below, in case I
    have similar problems in future:
    w e b s i t e @ m a c f h . c o . u k

    Maybe it's time to find an alternative to Digiguide?

    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
    www.macfh.co.uk

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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Coutanche?=@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Fri May 16 09:19:36 2025
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On Thu, 15 May 2025 19:15, Java Jive wrote:

    Maybe it's time to find an alternative to Digiguide?

    I've followed this discussion with interest since I use DigiGuide as
    well - though I'm in between annual renewals at the moment and haven't
    had a problem. Every renewal I wonder whether if there is a free or
    better value alternative but I haven't found one yet. Ideas would be
    welcome!

    André Coutanche

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 16 12:05:29 2025
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 14/05/2025 12:39, NY wrote:
    They seem to have big problems. Their web address www.ebs.tv (quoted on
    the app help screen) redirects to a website for PA Media who I presume
    are the new owners. The Facebook link that they quote goes to something
    with a vaguely similar name which as far as I can tell is unrelated.
    Their phone is never answered and emails are never answered. Sounds a
    real Michael [small rodent] operation ;-)

    Last time I renewed was a few years ago and I just went to https://accounts.digiguide.tv/
    logged in and paid with Paypal.
    The page is still there and looks the same to me.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Fri May 16 13:38:29 2025
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 16/05/2025 12:05, Brian Gregory wrote:
    On 14/05/2025 12:39, NY wrote:
    They seem to have big problems. Their web address www.ebs.tv (quoted
    on the app help screen) redirects to a website for PA Media who I
    presume are the new owners. The Facebook link that they quote goes to
    something with a vaguely similar name which as far as I can tell is
    unrelated. Their phone is never answered and emails are never
    answered. Sounds a real Michael [small rodent] operation ;-)

    Last time I renewed was a few years ago and I just went to https://accounts.digiguide.tv/
    logged in and paid with Paypal.
    The page is still there and looks the same to me.


    I wish I'd paid by card, but I was misled by the top-level mention of
    Paypal and went for the opposite option which turned out to be BACS and
    I couldn't be bothered to back out and start again. My own silly-stupid
    fault. I suppose it is easier to automate a credit card and Paypal
    system so it needs no human intervention whereas BACS needs someone to
    look at the incoming bank transactions each day and match them up with
    invoices in the user database.

    I get the impression that Digiguide is suffering a bit from "link rot"
    and help text that hasn't been updated for ages. The Facebook page that
    is referred in various places no longer works and now directs to
    something that sounds similar but it completely unrelated. Somewhere
    uses a web address edb.tv which now diverts to PA Media site which
    happens to be related (owner?) but initially makes you think that it is
    another link-rot. The fact that they don't answer emails and their phone permanently diverts to a "please wait" call-queuing system with no
    indication of progress - it's not very helpful to a customer and doesn't
    give you confidence that the company is still in business. I was
    particularly concerned that my email to a general "Contact Us" address
    on PA Media's site, referring to "paid money for a service that I
    haven't received" (with all its financial implications) went unanswered.

    I suppose it's what happens when a product that is initially written and supported by a small team gets swallowed up by one company (EDB) and
    then another (PA Media) for whom the product is just a small legacy part
    of their business. But if you buy the product, you buy the support of it!

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 3 19:26:24 2025
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    On 14/05/2025 12:39, NY wrote:
    []
    But... when I examined my bank transaction, I'd got an out-of-date
    invoice number from several years ago. I'm sure I pasted the new invoice number into the bank website, but maybe I didn't.
    []
    Just a remote possibility: did you cut-and-paste the number from the
    plain text version of an email?
    I ask because, a while ago, I was receiving a newsletter - from
    findmypast, I think, anyway, one of those companies who send emails
    containing both plain text and HTML. I asked them why they were telling
    me about events with minimal notice, eventually telling me after the
    events were over, and they had no idea what I was on about. I eventually
    worked out that their email system was broken, and the plain text part
    (which I was viewing) had stopped updating some months ago; it contained
    the newsletter from then, repeated each month. Took a lot of explaining
    - I don't think they _ever_ believed me. (Most of them had no idea their
    system was sending two-part mails, or even had any clue such things
    existed.)

    Though invoices these days tend to be .pdf, so that wouldn't explain it.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
    

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to J. P. Gilliver on Thu Jun 5 10:21:33 2025
    XPost: uk.tech.digital-tv

    "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:101neoh$6d4d$1@dont-email.me...
    On 14/05/2025 12:39, NY wrote:
    []
    But... when I examined my bank transaction, I'd got an out-of-date
    invoice number from several years ago. I'm sure I pasted the new invoice
    number into the bank website, but maybe I didn't.
    []
    Just a remote possibility: did you cut-and-paste the number from the plain text version of an email?
    I ask because, a while ago, I was receiving a newsletter - from
    findmypast, I think, anyway, one of those companies who send emails containing both plain text and HTML. I asked them why they were telling me about events with minimal notice, eventually telling me after the events
    were over, and they had no idea what I was on about. I eventually worked
    out that their email system was broken, and the plain text part (which I
    was viewing) had stopped updating some months ago; it contained the newsletter from then, repeated each month. Took a lot of explaining - I
    don't think they _ever_ believed me. (Most of them had no idea their
    system was sending two-part mails, or even had any clue such things
    existed.)

    I'd set up the payee in my NatWest bank account several years ago, and each year when I made a new payment I copied-and-pasted the new invoice number
    into the "my reference" field for the BACS transfer.

    When I came to pay this year's, I *thought* I'd done that, but somehow the entry still had the old invoice number from a previous year by the time I pressed the Go button. It wasn't even last year's reference - I must have
    paid last year by credit card rather than BACS. It didn't help this year
    that the Digiguide payment process on their web site grouped "credit/debit card" and "Paypal" under a single heading of "Paypal". I was going to pay by credit card. I knew I didn't want Paypal so I selected the other, thinking there would be a credit card option, and then found I had passed the point
    of no return and had to pay by BACS. And then I cocked up the reference. My brain must have been operating on reduced power (*) that day.


    (*) Brings back memories of Trade Test Transmissions "Emley Moor is
    operating on reduced power today so signals may be weaker than normal" etc.

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