I'm used to _late_ running, though not to the 1970s Dutch extent. (When posted from Dortmund to Mülheim/Ruhr, we became within range of Dutch TV [which, unlike German TV, broadcast a lot of UK/US material with
original sound, just subtitled in Dutch]; they quite often ran up to
about half an hour late, without AFAICS being at all bothered that they were!)
Anyway, I'm used to slippage these days - even the main BBC News often
start a minute or two late (must finish the trailer we've started).
But one prog. is puzzling me by starting _early_: "Lingo" at 3pm on
ITV1. (I find the prog. irritating - the chat and endless repetition of
the rules - but enjoy the actual gameplay. [Yes, I do do the NY Times Wordle.]) This seems often to start up to a minute or two _early_, for
no obvious reason. (There may be other prog.s doing the same; that's the
one I noticed.)
I remember radio Luxembourg, in the 1970s, used to do their news
bulletins just _before_ the hour; however, I understood that - it was, I think, to capture listeners (anyone _wanting_ news would switch to the station that had it on first, and they hoped those listeners would
stay), but that was known and scheduled; I can't think what advantage
what is essentially a game show starting early would give. (I don't
_mind_, just curious!)
I'm used to _late_ running, though not to the 1970s Dutch extent. (When >posted from Dortmund to Mlheim/Ruhr, we became within range of Dutch TV >[which, unlike German TV, broadcast a lot of UK/US material with
original sound, just subtitled in Dutch]; they quite often ran up to
about half an hour late, without AFAICS being at all bothered that they >were!)
Anyway, I'm used to slippage these days - even the main BBC News often
start a minute or two late (must finish the trailer we've started).
But one prog. is puzzling me by starting _early_: "Lingo" at 3pm on
ITV1. (I find the prog. irritating - the chat and endless repetition of
the rules - but enjoy the actual gameplay. [Yes, I do do the NY Times >Wordle.]) This seems often to start up to a minute or two _early_, for
no obvious reason. (There may be other prog.s doing the same; that's the
one I noticed.)
I remember radio Luxembourg, in the 1970s, used to do their news
bulletins just _before_ the hour; however, I understood that - it was, I >think, to capture listeners (anyone _wanting_ news would switch to the >station that had it on first, and they hoped those listeners would
stay), but that was known and scheduled; I can't think what advantage
what is essentially a game show starting early would give. (I don't
_mind_, just curious!)
On Wed, 23 Jul 2025 18:42:25 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
I'm used to _late_ running, though not to the 1970s Dutch extent. (When
posted from Dortmund to Mülheim/Ruhr, we became within range of Dutch TV >> [which, unlike German TV, broadcast a lot of UK/US material with
original sound, just subtitled in Dutch]; they quite often ran up to
about half an hour late, without AFAICS being at all bothered that they
were!)
Anyway, I'm used to slippage these days - even the main BBC News often
start a minute or two late (must finish the trailer we've started).
But one prog. is puzzling me by starting _early_: "Lingo" at 3pm on
ITV1. (I find the prog. irritating - the chat and endless repetition of
the rules - but enjoy the actual gameplay. [Yes, I do do the NY Times
Wordle.]) This seems often to start up to a minute or two _early_, for
no obvious reason. (There may be other prog.s doing the same; that's the
one I noticed.)
I remember radio Luxembourg, in the 1970s, used to do their news
bulletins just _before_ the hour; however, I understood that - it was, I
think, to capture listeners (anyone _wanting_ news would switch to the
station that had it on first, and they hoped those listeners would
stay), but that was known and scheduled; I can't think what advantage
what is essentially a game show starting early would give. (I don't
_mind_, just curious!)
Did the One Show not start just before 7 pm to try to capture viewers
before ITV '7 pm' slot?
On 01/08/2025 15:23, Scott wrote:
Did the One Show not start just before 7 pm to try to capture viewers
before ITV '7 pm' slot?
I have a vague memory that ITV started it (at 2000h? or 2100?) so the
BBC followed suit - would not be surprised if ITV then complained!
Did the One Show not start just before 7 pm to try to capture viewers
before ITV '7 pm' slot?
They did after ITV made 'News at Ten' later and BBC News moved into
the 10 pm slot. I think they claimed the BBC was acting unreasonably
On 02/08/2025 09:13, Scott wrote:
They did after ITV made 'News at Ten' later and BBC News moved into
the 10 pm slot. I think they claimed the BBC was acting unreasonably
I think BBC News was 2100h and ITV 2200h
ITV moved their news to 2230h or 2300h to allow them have longer films uninterupted.
BBC News then moved to the unused 2200h slot.
Later ITV wanted BBC to move their news so they could move back to 2200h
but BBC refused to move.
Difficult to transcribe because the BNA gets confused when reports are
spread over several columns.
Veteran presenter Trevor McDonald said today he “fully supported" plans
to scrap News at Ten and insisted the show was not being moved in favour
of movies.
The broadeaster said he backed the move to scrap the 31-year-old
programme under ITV proposals to the Independent Television Commission submitted yesterday.
News at Ten and the early eveningtne\n at 5.40 pm would be replaced by
half - hour bulletins at 6.30 pm and 11pm under the new plans. Mr
McDonald said: “1 support everything ITN does, I have just signed a new contract.
“I just want to make clear that ITV are trying to reshuffle news and are not concerned with changing News at Ten in favour films or drama.”
I presume that news must be an expensive programme to make, certainly in absolute terms, and definitely in terms of eyeballs garnered; so, I
presume they'd have loved to ditch it altogether. I presume it's a
licence condition that they provide it at all.
How do the plethora of small channels we have now get treated in that
regard - are they obliged to pay a levy towards it? AFAI can see, none
of them carry any news - only ITV (or itv1 as they want us to call
them), C4, and - though minimally - 5.
I remember being displeased, though I don't remember blaming either
"side", if any; having both newses (?) at the same time seemed rather
daft.
On 02/08/2025 15:00, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
I remember being displeased, though I don't remember blaming either
"side", if any; having both newses (?) at the same time seemed rather
daft.
How many people watch more than one news bulletin?
I don't tend to watch much news, fed of hearing about the ####### pallystinians.
On 02/08/2025 15:00, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
I remember being displeased, though I don't remember blaming either
"side", if any; having both newses (?) at the same time seemed rather
daft.
How many people watch more than one news bulletin?
I don't tend to watch much news, fed of hearing about the ####### pallystinians.
Well they did have their country given to others by the British
How do the plethora of small channels we have now get treated in that
regard - are they obliged to pay a levy towards it? AFAI can see, none
of them carry any news - only ITV (or itv1 as they want us to call
them), C4, and - though minimally - 5.
In article <106lgtd$167o0$1@dont-email.me>,
jon <reading.mostly@crap.org> wrote:
On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 15:43:56 +0100, JMB99 wrote:
On 02/08/2025 15:00, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
I remember being displeased, though I don't remember blaming either
"side", if any; having both newses (?) at the same time seemed
rather daft.
How many people watch more than one news bulletin?
I don't tend to watch much news, fed of hearing about the #######
pallystinians.
Well they did have their country given to others by the British
They were returned to their lands by the British that is true.
The holy land was home to the Jews 2000 years ago, well before Islam
existed. Palestine is a terrorist run hell hole and has never been a functioning country.
The whole raison d'etre of Palestine is an inbred hatred of the Jews and
the need to exterminate them 'from the river to the sea'. Their
supporters told us this week after week after week on the streets of
London, believe them!
You cannot agree a 2 state solution or any other solution with people
who have such a creed.
Bob.
On Sat, 02 Aug 2025 15:43:56 +0100, JMB99 wrote:
On 02/08/2025 15:00, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
I remember being displeased, though I don't remember blaming either
"side", if any; having both newses (?) at the same time seemed rather
daft.
How many people watch more than one news bulletin?
I don't tend to watch much news, fed of hearing about the ####### pallystinians.
Well they did have their country given to others by the British
On 02/08/2025 15:07, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
I presume that news must be an expensive programme to make, certainly in
absolute terms, and definitely in terms of eyeballs garnered; so, I
presume they'd have loved to ditch it altogether. I presume it's a
licence condition that they provide it at all.
How do the plethora of small channels we have now get treated in that
regard - are they obliged to pay a levy towards it? AFAI can see, none
of them carry any news - only ITV (or itv1 as they want us to call
them), C4, and - though minimally - 5.
Depends on how seriously you do the news.
Must cost the BBC a lot with correspondents all around the world.
But don't think any of the other UK broadcasters provide a full service
like that.
There are reciprocal arrangements which BBC have many but not sure how
the others pay for film from a foreign broadcaster.
On 02/08/2025 15:00, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
I remember being displeased, though I don't remember blaming either
"side", if any; having both newses (?) at the same time seemed rather
daft.
How many people watch more than one news bulletin?
I don't tend to watch much news, fed of hearing about the ####### >pallystinians.
When I was at school there was a country called Palestine, but the
jews over ran that like everywhere else they settled.
In article <106n5o0$1gihd$1@dont-email.me>,
jon <reading.mostly@crap.org> wrote:
When I was at school there was a country called Palestine, but the
jews over ran that like everywhere else they settled.
Has Britain been "over ran" by Jews?
Far be it from me to claim that Israel is a perfect state that has
been 100% over the decades, they have not.
However, lets be clear who the monster is in all this: "HAMAS". Iran
backed terrorists.
Do you fully understand the terible, really terrible things they did on >October 7th or have you not really grasped it?
They are why there is such suffering in Palestine. They are why it is >impossible to negotiate a solution, or even release the sausages.
They are why Egypt has built a massive wall to keep Palestinians out.
Remember how many billions of dollars were poured into Palestine to
build it up into a proper nation but instead, Hamas chose to buy
weapons and build tunnels under schools and hospitals. Build for war
not a nation because of Jew hatred.
Don't believe what the BBC/Sky and any of the antisemitism riddled left
say. This form of racism is fine in the UK even though they are harmless >contributors to the UK....
Has Britain been "over ran" by Jews?
Far be it from me to claim that Israel is a perfect state that has
been 100% over the decades, they have not.
However, lets be clear who the monster is in all this: "HAMAS". Iran
backed terrorists.
Do you fully understand the terible, really terrible things they did on October 7th or have you not really grasped it?
They are why there is such suffering in Palestine. They are why it is impossible to negotiate a solution, or even release the sausages.
They are why Egypt has built a massive wall to keep Palestinians out.
When I was at school there was a country called Palestine, but the jews
over ran that like everywhere else they settled.
They are why there is such suffering in Palestine. They are why it is impossible to negotiate a solution, or even release the sausages.
They are why Egypt has built a massive wall to keep Palestinians out.
On 03/08/2025 09:13, jon wrote:
When I was at school there was a country called Palestine, but the jews
over ran that like everywhere else they settled.
I don't know when you went to school but I doubt that a 'country' was
marked on the maps. A region perhaps but it has never been a country.
"J. P. Gilliver" wrote:
How do the plethora of small channels we have now get treated in that
regard - are they obliged to pay a levy towards it? AFAI can see, none
of them carry any news - only ITV (or itv1 as they want us to call
them), C4, and - though minimally - 5.
Some other ITV channels seem to have a "newsblit" shoved in like an
ad-break?
Antisemitism is a shape shifting hate that finds many excuses.
And since October 7th 2023, there have been credible reports of the
IDF killing many thousand of innocent civilians and destroying
many homes, schools and hospitals in their quest to get rid of
Hamas. "We think there may be a Hamas base under that hospital"
Bombs and other nastiness flattens the hospital. The tunnels, if
they even existed, are probably still usable...
If, as the Israelis claim, all they want is their hostages back,
the SAS or then American imitators could do that in a few weeks,
if not days. As it is, they seem to be following a scorched earth
policy, and doing their best to make the Gaza strip uninhabitable.
Also,ask yourself why the Israelis are forbidding independent
reporters from entering the Gaza strip, and forcing them all to be
based in areas controlled by Israeli authorities, while relying on
reports posted by local residents?
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