Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy interaction with the developer?
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
Your thoughts requested, folks! 🙂
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
Your thoughts requested, folks!
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net Tue,
05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Your thoughts requested, folks!
I'm looking forward to reading those thoughts, David. <G>
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net Tue,
05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the software. >> You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's not the case
because the author will not engage with you. You are once again, knowingly >> dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck "Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
On Aug 8, 2025 at 6:19:58 AM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net Tue, >>> 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the software.
You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's not the case >>> because the author will not engage with you. You are once again, knowingly >>> dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck
"Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
Perhaps YOU will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck "Full Disk Access" one *HAS* left an open backdoor?
You have NO PROOF of your absurd claims about this *highly recommended* troubleshooting tool. But you continue to stalk/harasss/libel/slander this product and its author.
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net
Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the
software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's
not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once
again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck "Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net Fri,
08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net
Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the
software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's
not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once
again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck
"Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several times
why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You danced around my question and finally responded with the reason, because the author won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory answer for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to make against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net Fri,
08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net
Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the
software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's >>>> not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once >>>> again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck >>> "Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several times
why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software
companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You danced
around my question and finally responded with the reason, because the
author
won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory
answer
for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to make
against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
On 2025-08-08 11:13, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net Fri, >>> 08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net
Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the
software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's >>>>> not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once >>>>> again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given
EtreCheck
"Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several
times
why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software
companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You
danced
around my question and finally responded with the reason, because the
author
won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory
answer
for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to make >>> against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
Has anyone investigated you?
Oh wait! They have!
On 08/08/2025 20:29, Alan wrote:I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
On 2025-08-08 11:13, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net
Fri,
08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net >>>>>> Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the >>>>>> software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer
that's
not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are
once
again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given
EtreCheck
"Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several
times
why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software >>>> companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You
danced
around my question and finally responded with the reason, because
the author
won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory
answer
for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to
make
against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
Has anyone investigated you?
Oh wait! They have!
THAT isn't difficult!
*MY* persona has been depicted on LinkedIn for many, many, years.
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be identified.
On 2025-08-08 13:40, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 20:29, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-08 11:13, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net
Fri,
08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net >>>>>>> Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the >>>>>>> software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer
that's
not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are >>>>>>> once
again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given
EtreCheck
"Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several
times
why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software >>>>> companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You
danced
around my question and finally responded with the reason, because
the author
won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory
answer
for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to
make
against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
Has anyone investigated you?
Oh wait! They have!
THAT isn't difficult!
*MY* persona has been depicted on LinkedIn for many, many, years.
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/
bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
If you, or anyone else, can explain why:
No clear public record exists of Mr. Daniel’s other professional work,
There is no independent audit of what EtreCheck collects and sends, despite requiring Full Disk Access,
…then by all means, enlighten me.
Until then, insults don’t change the fact that I’m asking the same question many cautious Mac users are entitled to ask.
On Aug 8, 2025 at 4:58:52 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
If you, or anyone else, can explain why:
No clear public record exists of Mr. Daniel’s other professional work,
Because one's personal life is NOT available in "public records".
There is no independent audit of what EtreCheck collects and sends,
despite requiring Full Disk Access,
Yes, there is. LOTS of people have looked into this. There is nothing wrong with it.
…then by all means, enlighten me.
Being "enlightened" means you have to listen to people who are answering your questions.
OTOH, stalking/harrassing/libeling/slandering means you ignore the answers to your "questions".
Until then, insults don’t change the fact that I’m asking the same
question many cautious Mac users are entitled to ask.
You have asked these questions MANY TIMES. They have been answered MANY TIMES. Drop it and move on.
On 2025-08-08 13:40, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 20:29, Alan wrote:I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
On 2025-08-08 11:13, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net
Fri,
08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net >>>>>>> Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the >>>>>>> software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer
that's
not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are >>>>>>> once
again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given
EtreCheck
"Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several
times
why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software >>>>> companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You
danced
around my question and finally responded with the reason, because
the author
won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory
answer
for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to
make
against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
Has anyone investigated you?
Oh wait! They have!
THAT isn't difficult!
*MY* persona has been depicted on LinkedIn for many, many, years.
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/bRRy3cwQ/
Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be identified.
On 08/08/2025 21:51, Alan wrote:I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you aren't a
On 2025-08-08 13:40, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 20:29, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-08 11:13, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net Fri,
08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net >>>>>>>> Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote: >>>>>>>>
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the >>>>>>>> software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer >>>>>>>> that's
not the case because the author will not engage with you. You
are once
again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given
EtreCheck
"Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you
several times
why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other
software
companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You >>>>>> danced
around my question and finally responded with the reason, because
the author
won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a
satisifactory answer
for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue
to make
against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
Has anyone investigated you?
Oh wait! They have!
THAT isn't difficult!
*MY* persona has been depicted on LinkedIn for many, many, years.
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/
bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather underline my point: when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
On 2025-08-08 11:13, David B. wrote:
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
Has anyone investigated you?
Oh wait! They have!
And they've found you to be a complete asshole!
I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you aren't a
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/
bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather underline my point: >> when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you choose
to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was on fire...
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfn5lnF1jm9U1@mid.individual.net Fri,
08 Aug 2025 20:40:23 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
THAT isn't difficult!
I did make it much easier some years back when I taught you about .NFO files :)
Might as well at that point, especially after that lesson in .NFO files you got. Are those coppers of yours attempting to come get me via canoe? It sure is taking them a long time, David Brooks.
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be identified.
Someone either needs to place their boot firmly upon your neck and put all
of their weight on that foot, or sue the ever living shit out of you. Either way, at some point, one must go well outside of usenet to put an end to your idea of fun.
https://discussions.apple.com/profile/HunterBD/participation
Is that yet another banned for forum policy violation accounts?
How many have you had on that site alone, David?
When are you going to learn that you don't have the right to access gear you do not own without permission? That you are infact, a fucking guest on such networks and your permission to use them can be revoked at any time. When
are you going to learn to respect anothers property David?
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
WTF is wrong with you? Seriously, What the fuck is wrong with you?
David, people do not have to respond to a single email you send. You are lucky any of us responds a single time, let alone has a 'discussion' (only
to be abused by you later) with you of any kind. Stop attempting to slime legitimate software, David. You're a real piece of shit.
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
WTF? Why would I 'investigate' him?
I've already told you, David Brooks, I will happily mock you, possibly even taunt you on occasion. But! I won't intentionally help you with any
technical query until further notice. I have determined you didn't
appreciate the help when it was offered based on how you've acted towards me. As a result, I will not help you further.
On 09/08/2025 02:22, Gremlin did not answer David's valid question!
[....]
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
WTF is wrong with you? Seriously, What the fuck is wrong with you?
David, people do not have to respond to a single email you send. You
are lucky any of us responds a single time, let alone has a
'discussion' (only to be abused by you later) with you of any kind.
Stop attempting to slime legitimate software, David. You're a real
piece of shit.
No way!
I'm asking valid questions and NOT getting answers.
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
WTF? Why would I 'investigate' him?
So even *YOU* cannot identify him. Got it!
I've already told you, David Brooks, I will happily mock you, possibly
even taunt you on occasion. But! I won't intentionally help you with
any technical query until further notice. I have determined you didn't
appreciate the help when it was offered based on how you've acted
towards me.
As a result, I will not help you further.
Some might think you are a cry-baby!
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 10:01:26 +0100, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 02:22, Gremlin did not answer David's valid question!
[....]
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
WTF is wrong with you? Seriously, What the fuck is wrong with you?
David, people do not have to respond to a single email you send. You
are lucky any of us responds a single time, let alone has a
'discussion' (only to be abused by you later) with you of any kind.
Stop attempting to slime legitimate software, David. You're a real
piece of shit.
No way!
I'm asking valid questions and NOT getting answers.
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
WTF? Why would I 'investigate' him?
So even *YOU* cannot identify him. Got it!
I've already told you, David Brooks, I will happily mock you, possibly
even taunt you on occasion. But! I won't intentionally help you with
any technical query until further notice. I have determined you didn't
appreciate the help when it was offered based on how you've acted
towards me.
As a result, I will not help you further.
Some might think you are a cry-baby!
What are you? Four?
On 08/08/2025 22:30, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 4:58:52 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>
If you, or anyone else, can explain why:
No clear public record exists of Mr. Daniel’s other professional work,
Because one's personal life is NOT available in "public records".
There is no independent audit of what EtreCheck collects and sends, >>> despite requiring Full Disk Access,
Yes, there is. LOTS of people have looked into this. There is nothing wrong >> with it.
…then by all means, enlighten me.
Being "enlightened" means you have to listen to people who are answering your
questions.
OTOH, stalking/harrassing/libeling/slandering means you ignore the answers to
your "questions".
Until then, insults don’t change the fact that I’m asking the same
question many cautious Mac users are entitled to ask.
You have asked these questions MANY TIMES. They have been answered MANY
TIMES. Drop it and move on.
Hi Tyrone,
Thanks for your reply.
You mentioned that lots of people have looked into EtreCheck and found nothing wrong.
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you aren't a
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/
bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be
identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather underline my
point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you choose
to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was on fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the point at hand.
On Aug 8, 2025 at 6:01:36 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 08/08/2025 22:30, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 4:58:52 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>
If you, or anyone else, can explain why:
No clear public record exists of Mr. Daniel’s other professional work,
Because one's personal life is NOT available in "public records".
There is no independent audit of what EtreCheck collects and sends, >>>> despite requiring Full Disk Access,
Yes, there is. LOTS of people have looked into this. There is nothing wrong >>> with it.
…then by all means, enlighten me.
Being "enlightened" means you have to listen to people who are answering your
questions.
OTOH, stalking/harrassing/libeling/slandering means you ignore the answers to
your "questions".
Until then, insults don’t change the fact that I’m asking the same >>>> question many cautious Mac users are entitled to ask.
You have asked these questions MANY TIMES. They have been answered MANY >>> TIMES. Drop it and move on.
Hi Tyrone,
Thanks for your reply.
You mentioned that lots of people have looked into EtreCheck and found
nothing wrong.
Why don't YOU mention the people who HAVE found ANYTHING wrong with EtreCheck?
YOU are the one making the allegations. It is up to YOU to prove them. Because everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.
Don't you think that people at Apple have looked into this? Don't you think that people at the various Apple support forums (where you have been banned) have looked into this? Why else would EVERYONE recommend EtreCheck? Even your
former hero Howard Oakley.
You are the ONLY person questioning EtreCheck. Over and over and over. You are obsessed with it. Yet you don't question any other software. You don't know any of the people who wrote any of the software you use daily. Yet you presume all of that software and all of those people to be innocent.
Why is that? Just because an innocent person (the author of EtreCheck) is avoiding a stalker (you)?
AGAIN, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way around.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you aren't a
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/
bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be
identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather underline my
point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you choose
to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was on fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the point at
hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:Bully for you.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you aren't
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/
bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be
identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather underline my >>>>> point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you
choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
a fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was on fire... >>>
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the point at
hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its developer in
the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s personal worth.
On 09/08/2025 15:05, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 6:01:36 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>
On 08/08/2025 22:30, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 4:58:52 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>>
If you, or anyone else, can explain why:
No clear public record exists of Mr. Daniel’s other professional work,
Because one's personal life is NOT available in "public records".
There is no independent audit of what EtreCheck collects and sends,
despite requiring Full Disk Access,
Yes, there is. LOTS of people have looked into this. There is nothing wrong
with it.
…then by all means, enlighten me.
Being "enlightened" means you have to listen to people who are answering your
questions.
OTOH, stalking/harrassing/libeling/slandering means you ignore the answers to
your "questions".
Until then, insults don’t change the fact that I’m asking the same >>>>> question many cautious Mac users are entitled to ask.
You have asked these questions MANY TIMES. They have been answered MANY >>>> TIMES. Drop it and move on.
Hi Tyrone,
Thanks for your reply.
You mentioned that lots of people have looked into EtreCheck and found
nothing wrong.
Why don't YOU mention the people who HAVE found ANYTHING wrong with EtreCheck?
YOU are the one making the allegations. It is up to YOU to prove them.
Because everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way
around.
Don't you think that people at Apple have looked into this? Don't you think >> that people at the various Apple support forums (where you have been banned) >> have looked into this? Why else would EVERYONE recommend EtreCheck? Even your
former hero Howard Oakley.
You are the ONLY person questioning EtreCheck. Over and over and over. You >> are obsessed with it. Yet you don't question any other software. You don't >> know any of the people who wrote any of the software you use daily. Yet you >> presume all of that software and all of those people to be innocent.
Why is that? Just because an innocent person (the author of EtreCheck) is >> avoiding a stalker (you)?
AGAIN, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way >> around.
Tyrone,
I’m not asking anyone to “prove guilt” — I’m asking for verifiable facts.
That’s the whole point: clear, documented evidence would settle the question far better than personal assumptions about my motives.
On Aug 9, 2025 at 1:54:57 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 09/08/2025 15:05, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 6:01:36 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>
On 08/08/2025 22:30, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 4:58:52 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
If you, or anyone else, can explain why:
No clear public record exists of Mr. Daniel’s other professional work,
Because one's personal life is NOT available in "public records".
There is no independent audit of what EtreCheck collects and sends,
despite requiring Full Disk Access,
Yes, there is. LOTS of people have looked into this. There is nothing wrong
with it.
…then by all means, enlighten me.
Being "enlightened" means you have to listen to people who are answering your
questions.
OTOH, stalking/harrassing/libeling/slandering means you ignore the answers to
your "questions".
Until then, insults don’t change the fact that I’m asking the same >>>>>> question many cautious Mac users are entitled to ask.
You have asked these questions MANY TIMES. They have been answered MANY >>>>> TIMES. Drop it and move on.
Hi Tyrone,
Thanks for your reply.
You mentioned that lots of people have looked into EtreCheck and found >>>> nothing wrong.
Why don't YOU mention the people who HAVE found ANYTHING wrong with EtreCheck?
YOU are the one making the allegations. It is up to YOU to prove them. >>> Because everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way
around.
Don't you think that people at Apple have looked into this? Don't you think
that people at the various Apple support forums (where you have been banned)
have looked into this? Why else would EVERYONE recommend EtreCheck? Even your
former hero Howard Oakley.
You are the ONLY person questioning EtreCheck. Over and over and over. You >>> are obsessed with it. Yet you don't question any other software. You don't >>> know any of the people who wrote any of the software you use daily. Yet you >>> presume all of that software and all of those people to be innocent.
Why is that? Just because an innocent person (the author of EtreCheck) is >>> avoiding a stalker (you)?
AGAIN, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Not the other way
around.
Tyrone,
I’m not asking anyone to “prove guilt” — I’m asking for verifiable facts.
WE ARE DEMANIND FOR YOU TO PROVE GUILT. Because YOU are claiming guilt WITHOUT "verifiable facts".
That’s the whole point: clear, documented evidence would settle the
question far better than personal assumptions about my motives.
Yes, it is. So why are you alleging guilt without "clear, documented evidence"?
And we all know your personal motives. No assumptions necessary.
On 2025-08-09 10:58, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:Bully for you.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you aren't
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/ >>>>>>>> bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be
identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather underline my >>>>>> point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you
choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
a fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was on
fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the point at
hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its developer in
the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s
personal worth.
You're a lying piece of shit, so what you say you are doing doesn't
matter at all.
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 10:01:26 +0100, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 02:22, Gremlin did not answer David's valid question!
[....]
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
WTF is wrong with you? Seriously, What the fuck is wrong with you?
David, people do not have to respond to a single email you send. You
are lucky any of us responds a single time, let alone has a
'discussion' (only to be abused by you later) with you of any kind.
Stop attempting to slime legitimate software, David. You're a real
piece of shit.
No way!
I'm asking valid questions and NOT getting answers.
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
WTF? Why would I 'investigate' him?
So even *YOU* cannot identify him. Got it!
I've already told you, David Brooks, I will happily mock you, possibly
even taunt you on occasion. But! I won't intentionally help you with
any technical query until further notice. I have determined you didn't
appreciate the help when it was offered based on how you've acted
towards me.
As a result, I will not help you further.
Some might think you are a cry-baby!
What are you? Four?
On 09/08/2025 21:15, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 10:58, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:Bully for you.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/ >>>>>>>>> bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be
identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather underline >>>>>>> my point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you
choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
aren't a fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was on
fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the point
at hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its developer in
the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s
personal worth.
You're a lying piece of shit, so what you say you are doing doesn't
matter at all.
Just whose sock-puppet are you, dear boy?
On 9 Aug 2025 09:48:30 GMT, Creon wrote:
On Sat, 9 Aug 2025 10:01:26 +0100, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 02:22, Gremlin did not answer David's valid question!
[....]
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
WTF is wrong with you? Seriously, What the fuck is wrong with you?
David, people do not have to respond to a single email you send. You
are lucky any of us responds a single time, let alone has a
'discussion' (only to be abused by you later) with you of any kind.
Stop attempting to slime legitimate software, David. You're a real
piece of shit.
No way!
I'm asking valid questions and NOT getting answers.
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
WTF? Why would I 'investigate' him?
So even *YOU* cannot identify him. Got it!
I've already told you, David Brooks, I will happily mock you, possibly >>>> even taunt you on occasion. But! I won't intentionally help you with
any technical query until further notice. I have determined you didn't >>>> appreciate the help when it was offered based on how you've acted
towards me.
As a result, I will not help you further.
Some might think you are a cry-baby!
What are you? Four?
You give him too much credit.
On 2025-08-09 14:49, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 21:15, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 10:58, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:Bully for you.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/ >>>>>>>>>> bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be >>>>>>>>>> identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather underline >>>>>>>> my point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you
choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
aren't a fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was on
fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the point
at hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its developer in >>>> the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s
personal worth.
You're a lying piece of shit, so what you say you are doing doesn't
matter at all.
Just whose sock-puppet are you, dear boy?
No one's, you lying sack of shit.
And don't you just hate that.
On 2025-08-09 14:49, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 21:15, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 10:58, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/
bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather underlineI wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you aren't a fair and reasonable person.
my point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was on fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the point at hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its developer in the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s personal worth.Bully for you.
You're a lying piece of shit, so what you say you are doing doesn't matter at all.
Just whose sock-puppet are you, dear boy?
No one's, you lying sack of shit.
And don't you just hate that.
On Aug 9, 2025, Alan wrote
(in article <1078iku$1he2o$2@dont-email.me>):
On 2025-08-09 14:49, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 21:15, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 10:58, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:Bully for you.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://i.ibb.co/ >>>>>>>>>>> bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be >>>>>>>>>>> identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather underline >>>>>>>>> my point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you >>>>>>>>> choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
aren't a fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was on >>>>>>>> fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the point >>>>>>> at hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its developer in >>>>> the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s >>>>> personal worth.
You're a lying piece of shit, so what you say you are doing doesn't
matter at all.
Just whose sock-puppet are you, dear boy?
No one's, you lying sack of shit.
And don't you just hate that.
Our David likes to deploy sock puppets. he thinks that everyone is as dishonest as he is.
On 09/08/2025 23:38, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 14:49, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 21:15, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 10:58, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:Bully for you.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://
i.ibb.co/ bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png >>>>>>>>>>>
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be >>>>>>>>>>> identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather underline >>>>>>>>> my point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you >>>>>>>>> choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
aren't a fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was on >>>>>>>> fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the point >>>>>>> at hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its developer in >>>>> the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s >>>>> personal worth.
You're a lying piece of shit, so what you say you are doing doesn't
matter at all.
Just whose sock-puppet are you, dear boy?
No one's, you lying sack of shit.
I don't lie about anything, laddie! :-P
And don't you just hate that.
I'd very much like to know which post(s) you, personally, made in THIS thread!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-etrecheck-safe-to-use-and-is-this-safe-place-to-download.2034144/page-2
Do tell!
I don't lie about anything, laddie! :-P
On 09/08/2025 22:09, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 9, 2025 at 1:54:57 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>
On 09/08/2025 15:05, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 6:01:36 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
On 08/08/2025 22:30, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 4:58:52 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>>> wrote:
If you, or anyone else, can explain why:
No clear public record exists of Mr. Daniel’s other >>>>>>> professional work,
Because one's personal life is NOT available in "public records".
There is no independent audit of what EtreCheck collects >>>>>>> and sends,
despite requiring Full Disk Access,
Yes, there is. LOTS of people have looked into this. There is
nothing wrong
with it.
…then by all means, enlighten me.
Being "enlightened" means you have to listen to people who are
answering your
questions.
OTOH, stalking/harrassing/libeling/slandering means you ignore the >>>>>> answers to
your "questions".
Until then, insults don’t change the fact that I’m asking the same >>>>>>> question many cautious Mac users are entitled to ask.
You have asked these questions MANY TIMES. They have been
answered MANY
TIMES. Drop it and move on.
Hi Tyrone,
Thanks for your reply.
You mentioned that lots of people have looked into EtreCheck and found >>>>> nothing wrong.
Why don't YOU mention the people who HAVE found ANYTHING wrong with
EtreCheck?
YOU are the one making the allegations. It is up to YOU to prove >>>> them.
Because everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Not the
other way
around.
Don't you think that people at Apple have looked into this? Don't
you think
that people at the various Apple support forums (where you have been
banned)
have looked into this? Why else would EVERYONE recommend EtreCheck?
Even your
former hero Howard Oakley.
You are the ONLY person questioning EtreCheck. Over and over and
over. You
are obsessed with it. Yet you don't question any other software. You
don't
know any of the people who wrote any of the software you use daily.
Yet you
presume all of that software and all of those people to be innocent.
Why is that? Just because an innocent person (the author of
EtreCheck) is
avoiding a stalker (you)?
AGAIN, everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Not the
other way
around.
Tyrone,
I’m not asking anyone to “prove guilt” — I’m asking for verifiable
facts.
WE ARE DEMANIND FOR YOU TO PROVE GUILT. Because YOU are claiming guilt >> WITHOUT "verifiable facts".
That’s the whole point: clear, documented evidence would settle the
question far better than personal assumptions about my motives.
Yes, it is. So why are you alleging guilt without "clear, documented
evidence"?
And we all know your personal motives. No assumptions necessary.
Tyrone,
I’m not alleging “guilt” — I’m pointing out that claims of independent
audits are being made without any cited names, reports, or methodologies
that others can verify.
If you or anyone else can point to a public, third-party technical audit
of EtreCheck’s code or data handling, please link it. That’s all I’ve asked for from the start.
Presumption of innocence in law is not the same as bypassing basic due diligence in software security — especially for a tool with Full Disk Access.
Until those sources are cited, “lots of people have looked at it”
remains an unverified assertion, not evidence.
*Do you understand*?
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net Fri,
08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net
Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the
software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's >>>> not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once >>>> again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck >>> "Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several times
why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software
companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You danced
around my question and finally responded with the reason, because the
author
won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory
answer
for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to make
against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
On 2025-08-10 01:46, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 23:38, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 14:49, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 21:15, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 10:58, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:Bully for you.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you >>>>>>>>> aren't a fair and reasonable person.
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https://
i.ibb.co/ bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png >>>>>>>>>>>>
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be >>>>>>>>>>>> identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather
underline my point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you >>>>>>>>>> choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was on >>>>>>>>> fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the
point at hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its developer in >>>>>> the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s >>>>>> personal worth.
You're a lying piece of shit, so what you say you are doing doesn't
matter at all.
Just whose sock-puppet are you, dear boy?
No one's, you lying sack of shit.
I don't lie about anything, laddie! :-P
You're lying about that.
And don't you just hate that.
I'd very much like to know which post(s) you, personally, made in THIS
thread!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-etrecheck-safe-to-use-and-is-this-safe-place-to-download.2034144/page-2
Do tell!
Sure. I've never seen that thread or to my best recollection ever posted anything on those forums.
On 10/08/2025 20:41, Alan wrote:How do you get that response from the fact that I haven't read a
On 2025-08-10 01:46, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 23:38, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 14:49, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 21:15, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 10:58, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:Bully for you.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you >>>>>>>>>> aren't a fair and reasonable person.
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https:// >>>>>>>>>>>>> i.ibb.co/ bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Please help me understand why none of his other work can be >>>>>>>>>>>>> identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather
underline my point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, you >>>>>>>>>>> choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was >>>>>>>>>> on fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the
point at hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its
developer in
the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s >>>>>>> personal worth.
You're a lying piece of shit, so what you say you are doing
doesn't matter at all.
Just whose sock-puppet are you, dear boy?
No one's, you lying sack of shit.
I don't lie about anything, laddie! :-P
You're lying about that.
and-is-And don't you just hate that.
I'd very much like to know which post(s) you, personally, made in
THIS thread!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-etrecheck-safe-to-use-
this-safe-place-to-download.2034144/page-2
Do tell!
Sure. I've never seen that thread or to my best recollection ever
posted anything on those forums.
Do you know ANYTHING about Apple software?!!!
Or hardware?!!!
On 2025-08-13 12:09, David B. wrote:
On 10/08/2025 20:41, Alan wrote:How do you get that response from the fact that I haven't read a
On 2025-08-10 01:46, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 23:38, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 14:49, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 21:15, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 10:58, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:Bully for you.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https:// >>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.ibb.co/ bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Please help me understand why none of his other work can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather >>>>>>>>>>>> underline my point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, >>>>>>>>>>>> you choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts. >>>>>>>>>>> I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you >>>>>>>>>>> aren't a fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was >>>>>>>>>>> on fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the >>>>>>>>>> point at hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its
developer in
the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s >>>>>>>> personal worth.
You're a lying piece of shit, so what you say you are doing
doesn't matter at all.
Just whose sock-puppet are you, dear boy?
No one's, you lying sack of shit.
I don't lie about anything, laddie! :-P
You're lying about that.
and-is-And don't you just hate that.
I'd very much like to know which post(s) you, personally, made in
THIS thread!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-etrecheck-safe-to-use-
this-safe-place-to-download.2034144/page-2
Do tell!
Sure. I've never seen that thread or to my best recollection ever
posted anything on those forums.
Do you know ANYTHING about Apple software?!!!
Or hardware?!!!
particular thread on a not particularly important forum?
On 13/08/2025 20:32, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-13 12:09, David B. wrote:
On 10/08/2025 20:41, Alan wrote:How do you get that response from the fact that I haven't read a
On 2025-08-10 01:46, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 23:38, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 14:49, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 21:15, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 10:58, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:Bully for you.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https:// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.ibb.co/ bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Please help me understand why none of his other work can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather >>>>>>>>>>>>> underline my point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, >>>>>>>>>>>>> you choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts. >>>>>>>>>>>> I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you >>>>>>>>>>>> aren't a fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was >>>>>>>>>>>> on fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the >>>>>>>>>>> point at hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its
developer in
the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s >>>>>>>>> personal worth.
You're a lying piece of shit, so what you say you are doing
doesn't matter at all.
Just whose sock-puppet are you, dear boy?
No one's, you lying sack of shit.
I don't lie about anything, laddie! :-P
You're lying about that.
and-is-And don't you just hate that.
I'd very much like to know which post(s) you, personally, made in
THIS thread!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-etrecheck-safe-to-use-
this-safe-place-to-download.2034144/page-2
Do tell!
Sure. I've never seen that thread or to my best recollection ever
posted anything on those forums.
Do you know ANYTHING about Apple software?!!!
Or hardware?!!!
particular thread on a not particularly important forum?
Alan,
Fair point — not having read a particular MacRumors thread doesn’t in itself prove anything about your Apple knowledge. I only asked because MacRumors is, in my view, the go-to Mac forum, and I was curious if
you’d seen the relevant discussion there.
That said, in a thread about EtreCheck and Ulbow, it’s fair to ask
whether contributors have first-hand Apple experience to back their
opinions. My focus is on the facts — software behaviour, developer background, and security implications — not personalities.
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net Fri,
08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net
Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the
software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's >>>> not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once >>>> again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck >>> "Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several times
why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software
companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You danced
around my question and finally responded with the reason, because the author >> won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory answer >> for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to make
against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net Fri, >>> 08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net
Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the
software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's >>>>> not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once >>>>> again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck >>>> "Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several times >>> why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software
companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You danced >>> around my question and finally responded with the reason, because the author
won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory answer >>> for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to make >>> against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on what? Just because YOU personally don't like him?
On 13/08/2025 20:32, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-13 12:09, David B. wrote:
On 10/08/2025 20:41, Alan wrote:How do you get that response from the fact that I haven't read a
On 2025-08-10 01:46, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 23:38, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 14:49, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 21:15, Alan wrote:
On 2025-08-09 10:58, David B. wrote:
On 09/08/2025 17:15, Alan wrote:Bully for you.
On 2025-08-09 01:50, David B. wrote:
On 08/08/2025 23:18, Alan wrote:
[....]
Here's what Mr Daniel showed about himself:- https:// >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i.ibb.co/ bRRy3cwQ/ Screenshot-2022-04-19-at-17-13-29.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Please help me understand why none of his other work can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be identified.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
That’s a colourful turn of phrase, but it does rather >>>>>>>>>>>>> underline my point:
when faced with a fair and reasonable technical question, >>>>>>>>>>>>> you choose to respond with personal abuse instead of facts. >>>>>>>>>>>> I wasn't given a "fair and reasonable" question, because you >>>>>>>>>>>> aren't a fair and reasonable person.
You're an asshole who I wouldn't bother to put out if he was >>>>>>>>>>>> on fire...
Alan,
Your personal opinion of me is noted, but irrelevant to the >>>>>>>>>>> point at hand.
It is as relevant as your attacks on someone else.
Alan,
The distinction is that I’m questioning software and its
developer in
the context of user security — not making remarks about someone’s >>>>>>>>> personal worth.
You're a lying piece of shit, so what you say you are doing
doesn't matter at all.
Just whose sock-puppet are you, dear boy?
No one's, you lying sack of shit.
I don't lie about anything, laddie! :-P
You're lying about that.
and-is-And don't you just hate that.
I'd very much like to know which post(s) you, personally, made in
THIS thread!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/is-etrecheck-safe-to-use-
this-safe-place-to-download.2034144/page-2
Do tell!
Sure. I've never seen that thread or to my best recollection ever
posted anything on those forums.
Do you know ANYTHING about Apple software?!!!
Or hardware?!!!
particular thread on a not particularly important forum?
Alan,
Fair point — not having read a particular MacRumors thread doesn’t in itself prove anything about your Apple knowledge. I only asked because MacRumors is, in my view, the go-to Mac forum, and I was curious if
you’d seen the relevant discussion there.
That said, in a thread about EtreCheck and Ulbow, it’s fair to ask
whether contributors have first-hand Apple experience to back their
opinions. My focus is on the facts — software behaviour, developer background, and security implications — not personalities.
On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net
Fri,
08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net >>>>>> Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the >>>>>> software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer
that's
not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are
once
again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given
EtreCheck
"Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several
times
why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software >>>> companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You
danced
around my question and finally responded with the reason, because
the author
won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory
answer
for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to
make
against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on what?
Just
because YOU personally don't like him?
Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have copies of our email correspondence!
He has also confirmed that he's about the same age as my son. Maybe
that's why he's been unable to to best me! ;-)
I've never claimed not to like the fellow!
Other folk were slating the product on the Apple App Store, not me!
https://i.ibb.co/6RyCVF5h/4-DB889-D8-A144-4-A99-97-B5-C02-B46-CF96- A9-1-105-c.jpg
Do YOU think he became too greedy?
On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on what? Just >> because YOU personally don't like him?
Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have >copies of our email correspondence!
He has also confirmed that he's about the same age as my son.
On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 22:45:19 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on what? Just >>> because YOU personally don't like him?
Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have
copies of our email correspondence!
How long before you dragged Nick into it? Wait, never mind!
He has also confirmed that he's about the same age as my son.
Ugh! Pathetic, but at least you're predictably pathetic.
On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net Fri, >>>> 08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net >>>>>> Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the >>>>>> software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's >>>>>> not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once >>>>>> again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck >>>>> "Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several times >>>> why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software >>>> companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You danced >>>> around my question and finally responded with the reason, because the author
won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory answer >>>> for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to make >>>> against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on what? Just >> because YOU personally don't like him?
Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have copies of our email correspondence!
He has also confirmed that he's about the same age as my son. Maybe
that's why he's been unable to to best me! ;-)
I've never claimed not to like the fellow!
Other folk were slating the product on the Apple App Store, not me!
https://i.ibb.co/6RyCVF5h/4-DB889-D8-A144-4-A99-97-B5-C02-B46-CF96-A9-1-105-c.jpg
Do YOU think he became too greedy?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"?
JustI'm sure that's part but he doesn't really know himself, in the same way
because YOU personally don't like him?
On 14/08/2025 02:09, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Wed, 13 Aug 2025 22:45:19 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on what? Just
because YOU personally don't like him?
Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have
copies of our email correspondence!
How long before you dragged Nick into it? Wait, never mind!
He has also confirmed that he's about the same age as my son.
Ugh! Pathetic, but at least you're predictably pathetic.
My *surviving* son, <snip>
On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18 PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>
On 08/08/2025 18:21, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfm1aeFqc46U1@mid.individual.net Fri, >>>>> 08 Aug 2025 10:19:58 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
On 06/08/2025 06:58, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mfe8q5Fh1j1U1@mid.individual.net >>>>>>> Tue, 05 Aug 2025 11:38:45 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
This has already been resolved. There is no malware present in the >>>>>>> software. You have already confirmed that you continue to infer that's >>>>>>> not the case because the author will not engage with you. You are once >>>>>>> again, knowingly dishonestly, sliming the product.
Perhaps you will categorically confirm that once one has given EtreCheck >>>>>> "Full Disk Access" one has *NOT* left an open backdoor?
This nonsense has already been covered as well. I asked you several times >>>>> why you didn't apply the same standards to a variety of other software >>>>> companies who's software does the same thing. Including Apple. You danced >>>>> around my question and finally responded with the reason, because the author
won't correspond with you. That's never going to be a satisifactory answer
for your implications and wrongful accusations that you continue to make >>>>> against the software.
Etrecheck is clean. Use it or don't use it.
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on what? Just >>> because YOU personally don't like him?
Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have
copies of our email correspondence!
So? That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?
He has also confirmed that he's about the same age as my son. Maybe
that's why he's been unable to to best me! ;-)
Utterly irrelevant.
I've never claimed not to like the fellow!
So why are you trying to destroy him?
Other folk were slating the product on the Apple App Store, not me!
https://i.ibb.co/6RyCVF5h/4-DB889-D8-A144-4-A99-97-B5-C02-B46-CF96-A9-1-105-c.jpg
Do YOU think he became too greedy?
Greedy? How much money do you think he is making from this tiny niche product? If this was for Windows, he might be making some money, since Windows has boatloads of problems. But software to help track down problems on Macs? That is the definition of niche product.
BTW, his reply is a perfectly reasonable response to someone who was obviously
clueless.
And even if he IS "greedy", what does that have to do with your insane "It's Malware!" crusade?
On 14/08/2025 15:58, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>>
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on what? Just
because YOU personally don't like him?
Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have
copies of our email correspondence!
So? That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?
He has lied!
On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 08:31:00 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/08/2025 15:58, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>
On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on what? Just
because YOU personally don't like him?
Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have >>>> copies of our email correspondence!
So? That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?
He has lied!
David, you lie quite frequently.
Should you be investigated?
On 24/08/2025 23:55, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 08:31:00 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/08/2025 15:58, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on
what? Just
because YOU personally don't like him?
Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still
have
copies of our email correspondence!
So? That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?
He has lied!
David, you lie quite frequently.
No, I don't.
Should you be investigated?
I am an open book! 🙂
Besides, I don't produce Mac software and invite naive Mac users to
download it onto their computers. Such folk have absolutely no idea
what such action might actually do 'behind the scenes' as it were.
Who else reading here has actually USED EtreCheck?
Anyone?
On 24/08/2025 23:55, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 08:31:00 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/08/2025 15:58, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>>
On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on what? Just
because YOU personally don't like him?
Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still have >>>>> copies of our email correspondence!
So? That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?
He has lied!
David, you lie quite frequently.
No, I don't.
Should you be investigated?
I am an open book! ?
Besides, I don't produce Mac software and invite naive Mac users to
download it onto their computers.
Such folk have absolutely no idea
what such action might actually do 'behind the scenes' as it were.
Who else reading here has actually USED EtreCheck?
Anyone?
On 24/08/2025 23:55, Kelly Phillips wrote:
David, you lie quite frequently.
No, I don't.
Should you be investigated?
I am an open book! 🙂
Besides, I don't produce Mac software and invite naive Mac users to
download it onto their computers. Such folk have absolutely no idea
what such action might actually do 'behind the scenes' as it were.
Who else reading here has actually USED EtreCheck?
On 2025-08-25 00:28, David B. wrote:
On 24/08/2025 23:55, Kelly Phillips wrote:
On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 08:31:00 +0100, "David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: >>>
On 14/08/2025 15:58, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 13, 2025 at 5:45:19?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:
On 13/08/2025 22:16, Tyrone wrote:
On Aug 8, 2025 at 2:13:18?PM EDT, ""David B."" <BD@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>>>> wrote:
What about "John Daniel" - is HE "clean"?
Have you even /bothered/ to investigate him?!!
AGAIN, why do you feel he needs to be "investigated"? Based on >>>>>>> what? Just
because YOU personally don't like him?
Back in 2014 I was happily helping him *test* his product. I still >>>>>> have
copies of our email correspondence!
So? That gives you the right to "investigate" him now?
He has lied!
David, you lie quite frequently.
No, I don't.
Yeah... ...you do.
Should you be investigated?
I am an open book! 🙂
Besides, I don't produce Mac software and invite naive Mac users to
download it onto their computers. Such folk have absolutely no idea
what such action might actually do 'behind the scenes' as it were.
Who else reading here has actually USED EtreCheck?
Anyone?
If you were on fire, I wouldn't piss on you.
On 25.08.2025 09:28, David B. wrote:[....]
Besides, I don't produce Mac software and invite naive Mac users to
download it onto their computers. Such folk have absolutely no idea
what such action might actually do 'behind the scenes' as it were.
Who else reading here has actually USED EtreCheck?
Why the hell should we? You are obsessed!
Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy interaction with the developer?
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
Your thoughts requested, folks!
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy
interaction with the developer?
I'm not a mac person by trade, David. So, other than reverse engineering to put your ill conceived theories about it containing or being malware, I have not used the product, nor would I specifically need to do so. That program
is designed for people to assist end users (like yourself) via self support forums. It's one of many tools of that kind. I've already explained this to you, previously, several times, as well. It's in one ear and right out the other one; since you clearly don't remember what you've already been told. I have interacted with it's author on several occasions though. I've found the individual to be friendly, responsive, and quite knowledgeable. It's a shame that as another utility author that we have you in common. You've gone after my program at one point in the past as well. FFS, You initiated email
contact with me, already lying your arse off about the reason(s) you contacted me in the first place. It damn sure was not for technical support for BugHunter. That was a ruse you crafted to interact with me.
I *should have* ignored your emails that had nothing to do with supporting BugHunter. Had I known as much as I do now about you, I would have ended our comms the moment you first began to stray from requesting BugHunter assistance. You're a stalking, nutjob, pile of shit.
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the scripts. I reported this to you each time. You then proceeded to twist your original accusation to 'How do we know it doesn't download malware later via the internet?' - When I asked why you don't subject nearly every other program, including OS(s), to the same question you avoided answering. Yet here you are, yet again, inferring the program might contain or otherwise will contain malware. It's a shame the author hasn't opted to pursue you via legal channels at this point.
On Aug 25, 2025 at 3:24:53 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote <XnsB346BB533ABAEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy >>> interaction with the developer?
I'm not a mac person by trade, David.
That is clear! You did not even know the difference between a Profile and a Preference, and you thought an Internet Boot booted from the hard drive.
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the
scripts.
Please support this claim.
(I bet you won't)
On Aug 26, 2025 at 2:50:54 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <mh5ebuFompuU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 25/08/2025 23:59, Brock McNuggets wrote:
On Aug 25, 2025 at 3:24:53 PM MST, "Gremlin" wrote
<XnsB346BB533ABAEHT1@cF04o3ON7k2lx05.lLC.9r5>:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon, >>>> 25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy >>>>> interaction with the developer?
I'm not a mac person by trade, David.
That is clear! You did not even know the difference between a Profile and a >>> Preference, and you thought an Internet Boot booted from the hard drive.
I remember him saying that. Do you have the Message ID handy?
I believe there were more times, but here are TWO examples (so not just a random typo / brain fart on terms):
Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA2266D9357HT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:
-----
Did he really tell you that after deleting your profile for the
photos program (when it's not running - I shouldn't have to make
sure you understand that, but, you are David Brooks and well, you
aren't exactly the brightest bulb in the pack.) you should restart
your machine to be sure the effect worked? David, y2k called and
they'd like their technology back if that's really the case. rofl.
Ensure no processes are running that program uses, ensure the
program itself isn't running, whack your profile. Start the
program, don't restart your machine or logoff/login again to 'fix'
it without first seeing if it's okay after whacking the profile.
-----
Diesel / Gremlin <XnsACA22716D09FHT1@b61h2qa58gRz40SbioSFbq.6IDI>:
------
A little birdie told me he already provided you instructions to
follow, but, it's a bit more than slightly clear he isn't really
sure about it. You uhh, shouldn't have to logout and back in, or
restart your OS to make the program behave itself. Make sure the
program is completely down, that it's closed and no services it
uses for anything are running. Whack the user profile. Either
learn to use google, or follow the generic instructions snit
provided you to locate them. Once you've deleted the profiles,
open the program and see if it's acting as you expect it to now.
-----
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the >>>> scripts.
Please support this claim.
(I bet you won't)
I'll bet he won't, too! ;-)
In a discussion of Carroll's flood bot he did make this claim:
<XnsAB6E44E6AFE1AHT1@ZdS859K14.7p1JRyU90Zyd>
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Do you think when you disassemble something that you're
provided the original source code that was
compiled/assembled by the author? You aren't, what you're
given looks nothing like the original source code, but it
still tells you *everything* about the program.
-----
When he realized this meant he would need the source code to Carroll's bot he backed off that claim REAL fast and has been crying about me quoting him ever since. LOL!
On Aug 25, 2025 at 11:31:04 PM MST, ""David B."" wrote <mh52l8FmrjgU1@mid.individual.net>:
On 25/08/2025 23:24, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon, >>> 25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy >>>> interaction with the developer?
I'm not a mac person by trade, David. So, other than reverse engineering to >>> put your ill conceived theories about it containing or being malware, I have
not used the product, nor would I specifically need to do so. That program >>> is designed for people to assist end users (like yourself) via self support >>> forums. It's one of many tools of that kind. I've already explained this to >>> you, previously, several times, as well. It's in one ear and right out the >>> other one; since you clearly don't remember what you've already been told. I
have interacted with it's author on several occasions though. I've found the
individual to be friendly, responsive, and quite knowledgeable. It's a shame
that as another utility author that we have you in common. You've gone after
my program at one point in the past as well. FFS, You initiated email
contact with me, already lying your arse off about the reason(s) you
contacted me in the first place. It damn sure was not for technical support >>> for BugHunter. That was a ruse you crafted to interact with me.
I *should have* ignored your emails that had nothing to do with supporting >>> BugHunter. Had I known as much as I do now about you, I would have ended our
comms the moment you first began to stray from requesting BugHunter
assistance. You're a stalking, nutjob, pile of shit.
Do you deny that YOU once posted this?
//Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
Notice, i said most people not all. Perhaps it's the way I myself
have been treated in my short miserable life (ah **** it, go ahead
cracky, nail me, wide open freebie). But, I was raised with the
"nail me, nail you" concept. I've been nailed since I began
breathing.. if I had my way, I'd long be dead... but, that's a
different topic, so I won't bore you with my
life story.//
You, Dustin Cook, are the 'bad guy', not me!
You don't happen to have the MID where he said that? He has admitted to it, so
not THAT important. Sadly he has not grown at all since he posted that.
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the >>> scripts. I reported this to you each time. You then proceeded to twist your >>> original accusation to 'How do we know it doesn't download malware later via
the internet?' - When I asked why you don't subject nearly every other
program, including OS(s), to the same question you avoided answering. Yet >>> here you are, yet again, inferring the program might contain or otherwise >>> will contain malware. It's a shame the author hasn't opted to pursue you via
legal channels at this point.
Gremlin,
You have stated that you have reverse-engineered EtreCheck. The
software’s Terms of Use expressly forbid reverse engineering,
decompiling, or disassembly. By your own admission, you have acted
contrary to those terms.
In light of that, any claims or assurances you make about the internal
workings of EtreCheck are undermined by the fact that they stem from a
breach of its license agreement.
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“Software”).
You may not:
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decompile, disassemble or undertake any form of re-engineering process
on the Software or provide your assistance to any effort of a third
party to do so;
modify or alter in any manner the Software or take part in any such an
effort initiated by a third party; and
loan, sell, share or otherwise distribute activation codes or license
codes with any third party.
This License does not grant you the right to access to the source code
of the Software. If, in certain circumstances, such access is desired by
you, you may enter into a separate license with Etresoft.
He accused the two of us of going against terms of service. With no evidence. Sigh.
You don't happen to have the MID where he said that? He has admitted to it, so
not THAT important. Sadly he has not grown at all since he posted that.
"David B." <DavidB.@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
Dustin took on more than he could handle when he 'met' you, my friend!
What a tedious, morphing, little turd you are. [k/f updated]
On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 07:31:04 +0100, David B. wrote:
On 25/08/2025 23:24, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon, >>> 25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy >>>> interaction with the developer?
I'm not a mac person by trade, David. So, other than reverse engineering to >>> put your ill conceived theories about it containing or being malware, I have
not used the product, nor would I specifically need to do so. That program >>> is designed for people to assist end users (like yourself) via self support >>> forums. It's one of many tools of that kind. I've already explained this to >>> you, previously, several times, as well. It's in one ear and right out the >>> other one; since you clearly don't remember what you've already been told. I
have interacted with it's author on several occasions though. I've found the
individual to be friendly, responsive, and quite knowledgeable. It's a shame
that as another utility author that we have you in common. You've gone after
my program at one point in the past as well. FFS, You initiated email
contact with me, already lying your arse off about the reason(s) you
contacted me in the first place. It damn sure was not for technical support >>> for BugHunter. That was a ruse you crafted to interact with me.
I *should have* ignored your emails that had nothing to do with supporting >>> BugHunter. Had I known as much as I do now about you, I would have ended our
comms the moment you first began to stray from requesting BugHunter
assistance. You're a stalking, nutjob, pile of shit.
Do you deny that YOU once posted this?
//Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
Notice, i said most people not all. Perhaps it's the way I myself
have been treated in my short miserable life (ah **** it, go ahead
cracky, nail me, wide open freebie). But, I was raised with the
"nail me, nail you" concept. I've been nailed since I began
breathing.. if I had my way, I'd long be dead... but, that's a
different topic, so I won't bore you with my
life story.//
You, Dustin Cook, are the 'bad guy', not me!
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the >>> scripts. I reported this to you each time. You then proceeded to twist your >>> original accusation to 'How do we know it doesn't download malware later via
the internet?' - When I asked why you don't subject nearly every other
program, including OS(s), to the same question you avoided answering. Yet >>> here you are, yet again, inferring the program might contain or otherwise >>> will contain malware. It's a shame the author hasn't opted to pursue you via
legal channels at this point.
Gremlin,
You have stated that you have reverse-engineered EtreCheck. The
software’s Terms of Use expressly forbid reverse engineering,
decompiling, or disassembly. By your own admission, you have acted
contrary to those terms.
In light of that, any claims or assurances you make about the internal
workings of EtreCheck are undermined by the fact that they stem from a
breach of its license agreement.
So he helps you out -- at your request -- and then you stab
him in the back.
On 25/08/2025 23:24, Gremlin wrote:
"David B." <BD@hotmail.co.uk> news:mh3i4uFd4ftU2@mid.individual.net Mon,
25 Aug 2025 16:43:10 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
Does anyone reading here actually *USE* the EtreCheck software and enjoy >>> interaction with the developer?
I'm not a mac person by trade, David. So, other than reverse engineering to >> put your ill conceived theories about it containing or being malware, I have >> not used the product, nor would I specifically need to do so. That program >> is designed for people to assist end users (like yourself) via self support >> forums. It's one of many tools of that kind. I've already explained this to >> you, previously, several times, as well. It's in one ear and right out the >> other one; since you clearly don't remember what you've already been told. I >> have interacted with it's author on several occasions though. I've found the >> individual to be friendly, responsive, and quite knowledgeable. It's a shame >> that as another utility author that we have you in common. You've gone after >> my program at one point in the past as well. FFS, You initiated email
contact with me, already lying your arse off about the reason(s) you
contacted me in the first place. It damn sure was not for technical support >> for BugHunter. That was a ruse you crafted to interact with me.
I *should have* ignored your emails that had nothing to do with supporting >> BugHunter. Had I known as much as I do now about you, I would have ended our >> comms the moment you first began to stray from requesting BugHunter
assistance. You're a stalking, nutjob, pile of shit.
Do you deny that YOU once posted this?
//Hmm, I've considered it. But, i have to be honest with you. i don't
give a damn about most people; people to me are like insects, they
deserve to be treated as cruely as I can possibly treat them.
Notice, i said most people not all. Perhaps it's the way I myself
have been treated in my short miserable life (ah **** it, go ahead
cracky, nail me, wide open freebie). But, I was raised with the
"nail me, nail you" concept. I've been nailed since I began
breathing.. if I had my way, I'd long be dead... but, that's a
different topic, so I won't bore you with my
life story.//
You, Dustin Cook, are the 'bad guy', not me!
There a question, too, about it possibly being "Malware"!
I've already reverse engineered two builds of this program and found
absolutely no malicious code of any kind present inside the binary or the
scripts. I reported this to you each time. You then proceeded to twist your >> original accusation to 'How do we know it doesn't download malware later via >> the internet?' - When I asked why you don't subject nearly every other
program, including OS(s), to the same question you avoided answering. Yet
here you are, yet again, inferring the program might contain or otherwise
will contain malware. It's a shame the author hasn't opted to pursue you via >> legal channels at this point.
Gremlin,
You have stated that you have reverse-engineered EtreCheck. The
software’s Terms of Use expressly forbid reverse engineering,
decompiling, or disassembly. By your own admission, you have acted
contrary to those terms.
In light of that, any claims or assurances you make about the internal workings of EtreCheck are undermined by the fact that they stem from a
breach of its license agreement.
On 26/08/2025 22:21, Creon wrote:
So he helps you out -- at your request -- and then you stab
him in the back.
Surely you don't believe he was telling the truth? <rolls eyes>
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