Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and I'm
wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this product? It is
supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look forward to eliminating
that infection, if Debian is practical.

Many thanks in advance.

Peter HB

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On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 06:04:30PM +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this product? It is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look forward to eliminating
that infection.

Wallet voting does do that.

Contact the hardware vendor, tell them you have money, tell them what
you want, tell them what you don't need and surely not want to pay for.
Spend your money wisely.

Many thanks in advance.

Yes, your future self will benefit most
from putting money **now** in the right place.

Peter HB

Groeten
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 20:58:49 +0200
Geert Stappers <stappers@stappers.nl> wrote:

On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 06:04:30PM +0100, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and
I'm wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this
product? It is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look
forward to eliminating that infection.

Wallet voting does do that.

Contact the hardware vendor, tell them you have money, tell them what
you want, tell them what you don't need and surely not want to pay
for. Spend your money wisely.

Doesn't really work any more. Domestic Windows is practically free to
computer builders, MS only really charges for professional and server
versions. I doubt that most vendors can actually get hold of
Windows-free machines.

MS or the manufacturer gets paid for all the rubbishware they put on the computer, and certainly MS monetises the various data it collects from
Win10 and Win11. Telemetry, sure. Games and other stuff that used to be
thrown in are now third-party and require payment, and you can be
certain MS takes a slice.

These days the software is more or less free to domestic users, and the
profit comes from advertising and selling data. Last time I started up
a new Windows, there were various 'privacy' options. One assured me
that if I chose not to get targeted advertisements, I'd still get
untargeted ones. I'm glad none of my other tools come with compulsory advertising.

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On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:04:30 +0100
Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this product? It
is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look forward to
eliminating that infection, if Debian is practical.

Many thanks in advance.

Peter HB

Have you checked the Linux hardware database? https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe


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On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 03:48:47PM -0600, Charles Curley wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:04:30 +0100
Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this product? It
is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look forward to
eliminating that infection, if Debian is practical.

Many thanks in advance.

Not quite your model listed but things close:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Laptop/ASUS

https://jonastechknowhow.com/does-asus-vivobook-support-linux/

How to you propose to buy it ? If from a shop why not make a Debian Live memory stick and boot the machine from that - you do NOT need to install but from the live environment can check out the important things that may cause trouble: screen and Wifi -- you will need to get permission from the shop and convince them that it will not harm the machine!

Look here: https://asus-linux.org/

Have you checked the Linux hardware database? https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe

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Not the same model but I have the Asus ROG Zephyrus G16 and it runs beautifully with all its esoteric hardware supported under Debian 13 Trixie.

J
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Written by a human.

On 31 Jul 2025, at 18:12, Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this product? It is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look forward to eliminating that infection, if Debian is practical.

Many thanks in advance.

Peter HB

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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Not the same model but I have the Asus ROG Zephyrus G16 and it runs beautifully with all its esoteric hardware supported under Debian 13 Trixie.<div><

</div><div>J<br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir="ltr">—&nbsp;<div>John Dow &lt;johnmdow@me.com&gt;</div><div><p style="margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 12px; line-height:

normal; font-family: Helvetica; font-size-adjust: none; font-kerning: auto; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-emoji:
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wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>Hello All,</span><br><span></span><br><span>I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this
product? It is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look forward to eliminating that infection, if Debian is practical.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Many thanks in advance.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Peter HB</span><br><span></span><br><
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On 7/31/25 4:48 PM, Charles Curley wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:04:30 +0100
Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and I'm
wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this product? It
is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look forward to
eliminating that infection, if Debian is practical.

Many thanks in advance.

Peter HB

Have you checked the Linux hardware database? https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe

There are also Linux specific hardware vendors such as
https://system76.com/ .

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On 01/08/2025 11:17, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 7/31/25 4:48 PM, Charles Curley wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:04:30 +0100
Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and I'm
wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this product? It
is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look forward to
eliminating that infection, if Debian is practical.

Many thanks in advance.

Peter HB

Have you checked the Linux hardware database?
https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe

There are also Linux specific hardware vendors such as https://system76.com/ .

We can also cite:

https://frame.work/
https://slimbook.com

Cheers,
Jerome


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On Aug 01, 2025, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

On 01/08/2025 11:17, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 7/31/25 4:48 PM, Charles Curley wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:04:30 +0100
Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this product? It
is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look forward to eliminating that infection, if Debian is practical.

Many thanks in advance.

Peter HB

Have you checked the Linux hardware database? https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe

There are also Linux specific hardware vendors such as https://system76.com/ .

We can also cite:

https://frame.work/

Framework laptops are great. I've had mine since they first launched.
Only challenge I've run into is the Intel AX210 card, but that was a
kernel problem.


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On 01/08/2025 13:37, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

On 01/08/2025 11:17, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 7/31/25 4:48 PM, Charles Curley wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:04:30 +0100
Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and I'm
wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this product? It
is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look forward to
eliminating that infection, if Debian is practical.

Many thanks in advance.

Peter HB

Have you checked the Linux hardware database?
https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe

No. I'll be buying on-line, sight unseen, hence my specific query about
ASUS. If there was a reliable computer vendor within 10 miles I would
obviously go and test various machines for compatibility with a Trixie
stick, but there isn't.

Normally I would go Dell, or HP but I've picked up some negatives on
this list, hence the query about ASUS.

There are also Linux specific hardware vendors such as https://
system76.com/ .

If they had an outlet in the UK I would investigate them, but...

We can also cite:

https://frame.work/
https://slimbook.com

See above.

Many thanks for all the replies.

Peter HB

Cheers,
Jerome

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Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

On 01/08/2025 13:37, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

On 01/08/2025 11:17, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 7/31/25 4:48 PM, Charles Curley wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:04:30 +0100
Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA -
and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this
product? It is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look
forward to eliminating that infection, if Debian is practical.

Many thanks in advance.

Peter HB

Have you checked the Linux hardware database?
https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe

No. I'll be buying on-line, sight unseen, hence my specific query
about ASUS. If there was a reliable computer vendor within 10 miles I
would obviously go and test various machines for compatibility with a
Trixie stick, but there isn't.

Since you're in the UK you have the right to return an unsuitable
product (or any product!). Tell the vendor in advance that you want to
install Debian and maybe they'll test it for you.

Normally I would go Dell, or HP but I've picked up some negatives on
this list, hence the query about ASUS.

There are also Linux specific hardware vendors such as https://
system76.com/ .

If they had an outlet in the UK I would investigate them, but...

We can also cite:

https://frame.work/
https://slimbook.com

See above.

Many thanks for all the replies.

Peter HB

Cheers,
Jerome

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On Thursday 31 July 2025 03:58:41 pm Joe wrote:

I doubt that most vendors can actually get hold of
Windows-free machines.

Not so. My last system purchased included no OS, per my request, but if I hadn't made that choice their default is linux mint...

I posted in here about it at the time (late last year), got the info from Charles Curley, who also purchased from that same outfit.


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On 01/08/2025 18:14, debian-user@howorth.org.uk wrote:

Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

On 01/08/2025 13:37, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

On 01/08/2025 11:17, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 7/31/25 4:48 PM, Charles Curley wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:04:30 +0100
Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA -
and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this
product? It is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look
forward to eliminating that infection, if Debian is practical.

Many thanks in advance.

Peter HB

Have you checked the Linux hardware database?
https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe

No. I'll be buying on-line, sight unseen, hence my specific query
about ASUS. If there was a reliable computer vendor within 10 miles I
would obviously go and test various machines for compatibility with a
Trixie stick, but there isn't.

Since you're in the UK you have the right to return an unsuitable
product (or any product!). Tell the vendor in advance that you want to install Debian and maybe they'll test it for you.

Amazon is the most likely source, so I think that's a non-starter. Life
was a lot easier before I retired from Siemens - and before Fujitsu
absorbed the computer division I worked for. :-)

Normally I would go Dell, or HP but I've picked up some negatives on
this list, hence the query about ASUS.

There are also Linux specific hardware vendors such as https://
system76.com/ .

If they had an outlet in the UK I would investigate them, but...

We can also cite:

https://frame.work/
https://slimbook.com

See above.

Many thanks for all the replies.

Peter HB

Cheers,
Jerome

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On 8/1/25 8:50 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:

On 01/08/2025 13:37, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

On 01/08/2025 11:17, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 7/31/25 4:48 PM, Charles Curley wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jul 2025 18:04:30 +0100
Peter Hillier-Brook <phb@hbsys.plus.com> wrote:

Hello All,

I'm being tempted by an ASUS laptop - ASUS-Vivobook-M3407HA - and I'm >>>>> wondering if anyone has experience with Debian and this product? It
is supplied with Windows 11 pre-installed and I look forward to
eliminating that infection, if Debian is practical.

Many thanks in advance.

Peter HB

Have you checked the Linux hardware database?
https://github.com/linuxhw/hw-probe

No. I'll be buying on-line, sight unseen, hence my specific query about
ASUS. If there was a reliable computer vendor within 10 miles I would obviously go and test various machines for compatibility with a Trixie
stick, but there isn't.

Normally I would go Dell, or HP but I've picked up some negatives on
this list, hence the query about ASUS.

There are also Linux specific hardware vendors such as https://
system76.com/ .

If they had an outlet in the UK I would investigate them, but...

We can also cite:

https://frame.work/
https://slimbook.com

See above.

May I suggest creative use of search engines.
I experimented with the following in DuckDuckGo [NOTE quotation marks]
"Linux" "hardware" "vendor" "uk"
"Linux" "laptop" "vendor" "uk"
"Linux" "hardware" "vendor" "us"
uk site:itsfoss.com
The first gave two hits:
a link to a vendor.
a link to a possibly useful mailing list thread.
The last was prompted by one of the hits of one of my searches. I
mention it not for a specific hit but the variety of hits may suggest a
useful search term.

From the colonies. YMMV ;}

Many thanks for all the replies.

Peter HB

Cheers,
Jerome

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