On 28.10.24 17:18, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Nobody wants to feed the Troll!
You are free to open an interesting Thread.
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 28.10.24 17:18, *Hemidactylus* wrote:I started wondering if he had maybe serial killed the regulars and consumed their genitalia. That would have left me last person fleeing in a scary Halloween scenario.
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Nobody wants to feed the Troll!
18.1 is out.
You are free to open an interesting Thread.
On 28.10.24 17:43, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 28.10.24 17:18, *Hemidactylus* wrote:I started wondering if he had maybe serial killed the regulars and consumed >> their genitalia. That would have left me last person fleeing in a scary
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Nobody wants to feed the Troll!
Halloween scenario.
18.1 is out.
You are free to open an interesting Thread.
Means AI in Europe.
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Jrg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 28.10.24 17:18, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Nobody wants to feed the Troll!
I started wondering if he had maybe serial killed the regulars and consumed their genitalia. That would have left me last person fleeing in a scary Halloween scenario.
You are free to open an interesting Thread.
18.1 is out.
Although I don't think it is something I would ever use, call recording is available.
Paul Goodman wrote on Mon, 28 Oct 2024 22:54:44 +0000 :
Although I don't think it is something I would ever use, call recording is >> available.
Given Android had automatic call recording since the beginning of time, a >rhetorical question is how many scores (if not hundreds) of times did
nospam vehemently & repeatedly forever insist that "call recording" was
... not needed
and
... not wanted
simply because Apple didn't allow it.
On Tue, 29 Oct 2024 02:52:11 -0000 (UTC), Andrews <andrews@spam.net>
wrote:
Paul Goodman wrote on Mon, 28 Oct 2024 22:54:44 +0000 :
Although I don't think it is something I would ever use, call recording is >>> available.
Given Android had automatic call recording since the beginning of time, a
rhetorical question is how many scores (if not hundreds) of times did
nospam vehemently & repeatedly forever insist that "call recording" was
... not needed
and
... not wanted
simply because Apple didn't allow it.
He used to say the same about 5G.... because Apple didn't support it.
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
Jrg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> wrote:
On 28.10.24 17:18, *Hemidactylus* wrote:I started wondering if he had maybe serial killed the regulars and consumed
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Nobody wants to feed the Troll!
their genitalia. That would have left me last person fleeing in a scary
Halloween scenario.
18.1 is out.
You are free to open an interesting Thread.
V17.7.1 as well.
Ooh. Thanks.
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Do you consider someone who posts on-topic conversations as a troll? Certainly Jolly Roger, Alan (2), Lorenz do. They've probably been
sharpening their knives the past few weeks.
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Do you consider someone who posts on-topic conversations as a troll?
Certainly Jolly Roger, Alan (2), Lorenz do. They've probably been
sharpening their knives the past few weeks.
There's more nuance to whether or not someone is a troll than simply
whether or not they post "on topic".
Yes. They must be approved on-topic messages.
Newsgroups are dead for lack of critical mass of good people
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-29 08:25, badgolferman wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Do you consider someone who posts on-topic conversations as a troll?
Certainly Jolly Roger, Alan (2), Lorenz do. They've probably been
sharpening their knives the past few weeks.
There's more nuance to whether or not someone is a troll than simply
whether or not they post "on topic".
Yes. They must be “approved” on-topic messages.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-29 08:25, badgolferman wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Do you consider someone who posts on-topic conversations as a troll?
Certainly Jolly Roger, Alan (2), Lorenz do. They've probably been
sharpening their knives the past few weeks.
There's more nuance to whether or not someone is a troll than simply
whether or not they post "on topic".
Yes. They must be “approved” on-topic messages.
Andrews wrote:
Alan Browne wrote on Tue, 29 Oct 2024 14:35:27 -0400 :
Newsgroups are dead for lack of critical mass of good people
I wonder if you Apple zealots have any idea that the Windows and
Android newsgroups are alive & kicking.
It's just the Apple-related newsgroups that are moribund.
Do you even know why?
I do.
Cancel culture.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Andrews wrote:You’re either being flippant or paranoid delusional. That phrase has lost all meaning, if it had any sincerity to begin with.
Alan Browne wrote on Tue, 29 Oct 2024 14:35:27 -0400 :
Newsgroups are dead for lack of critical mass of good people
I wonder if you Apple zealots have any idea that the Windows and
Android newsgroups are alive & kicking.
It's just the Apple-related newsgroups that are moribund.
Do you even know why?
I do.
Cancel culture.
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:Who is the approver then, unless you’re a conspiracist?
On 2024-10-29 08:25, badgolferman wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Do you consider someone who posts on-topic conversations as a troll? >>>>> Certainly Jolly Roger, Alan (2), Lorenz do. They've probably been
sharpening their knives the past few weeks.
There's more nuance to whether or not someone is a troll than simply
whether or not they post "on topic".
Yes. They must be “approved” on-topic messages.
Never mind. I forgot who I was speaking to.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:Someone who has a clue how full of shit you are.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:Who is the approver then, unless you’re a conspiracist?
On 2024-10-29 08:25, badgolferman wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Do you consider someone who posts on-topic conversations as a troll? >>>>>> Certainly Jolly Roger, Alan (2), Lorenz do. They've probably been >>>>>> sharpening their knives the past few weeks.
There's more nuance to whether or not someone is a troll than simply >>>>> whether or not they post "on topic".
Yes. They must be “approved” on-topic messages.
Never mind. I forgot who I was speaking to.
Youre either being flippant or paranoid delusional. That phrase has lostI wonder if you Apple zealots have any idea that the Windows and
Android newsgroups are alive & kicking.
It's just the Apple-related newsgroups that are moribund.
Do you even know why?
I do.
Cancel culture.
all meaning, if it had any sincerity to begin with.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:Someone who has a clue how full of shit you are.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:Who is the approver then, unless you’re a conspiracist?
On 2024-10-29 08:25, badgolferman wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Do you consider someone who posts on-topic conversations as a troll? >>>>>> Certainly Jolly Roger, Alan (2), Lorenz do. They've probably been >>>>>> sharpening their knives the past few weeks.
There's more nuance to whether or not someone is a troll than simply >>>>> whether or not they post "on topic".
Yes. They must be “approved” on-topic messages.
Never mind. I forgot who I was speaking to.
Andrews wrote:
Hemidactylus wrote on Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:31:07 +0000 :
You�re either being flippant or paranoid delusional. That phraseI wonder if you Apple zealots have any idea that the Windows and
Android newsgroups are alive & kicking.
It's just the Apple-related newsgroups that are moribund.
Do you even know why?
I do.
Cancel culture.
has lost all meaning, if it had any sincerity to begin with.
Since all you zealots do is attack people, you missed the sage wisdom
in badgolferman's response explaining why, when he posts to other
newsgroups, he's not called a troll - yet - when he posts on Apple
groups, he is.
*You were so intent on attacking the poster - that you missed the
point.*
What badgolferman said is exactly why the Apple newsgroups are
moribund.
*And your attack-on-him response proved that badgolferman was correct*
What is kill filing, shouting down, berating, and calling someone a
troll anything other than forms of canceling a person? Having
disagreement using normal conversations without hurling aspersions is
how emotionally mature people communicate.
What is kill filing, shouting down, berating, and calling someone a
troll anything other than forms of canceling a person? Having
disagreement using normal conversations without hurling aspersions is
how emotionally mature people communicate.
Now put on your big boy pants and stop snivelling.
Apparently you dont understand expressions.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-30 10:02, badgolferman wrote:
Andrews wrote:
Hemidactylus wrote on Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:31:07 +0000 :
You�re either being flippant or paranoid delusional. That phraseI wonder if you Apple zealots have any idea that the Windows and >>>>>>> Android newsgroups are alive & kicking.
It's just the Apple-related newsgroups that are moribund.
Do you even know why?
I do.
Cancel culture.
has lost all meaning, if it had any sincerity to begin with.
Since all you zealots do is attack people, you missed the sage wisdom
in badgolferman's response explaining why, when he posts to other
newsgroups, he's not called a troll - yet - when he posts on Apple
groups, he is.
*You were so intent on attacking the poster - that you missed the
point.*
What badgolferman said is exactly why the Apple newsgroups are
moribund.
*And your attack-on-him response proved that badgolferman was correct*
What is kill filing, shouting down, berating, and calling someone a
troll anything other than forms of canceling a person? Having
disagreement using normal conversations without hurling aspersions is
how emotionally mature people communicate.
You can't "shout down" anyone in a newsgroup, you ignoramus.
None of those things cancel a person.
Now put on your big boy pants and stop snivelling.
Apparently you don’t understand expressions.
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-30 10:39, badgolferman wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-30 10:02, badgolferman wrote:
Andrews wrote:
Hemidactylus wrote on Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:31:07 +0000 :
You�re either being flippant or paranoid delusional. That phrase >>>>>>> has lost all meaning, if it had any sincerity to begin with.I wonder if you Apple zealots have any idea that the Windows and >>>>>>>>> Android newsgroups are alive & kicking.
It's just the Apple-related newsgroups that are moribund.
Do you even know why?
I do.
Cancel culture.
Since all you zealots do is attack people, you missed the sage wisdom >>>>>> in badgolferman's response explaining why, when he posts to other
newsgroups, he's not called a troll - yet - when he posts on Apple >>>>>> groups, he is.
*You were so intent on attacking the poster - that you missed the
point.*
What badgolferman said is exactly why the Apple newsgroups are
moribund.
*And your attack-on-him response proved that badgolferman was correct* >>>>>
What is kill filing, shouting down, berating, and calling someone a
troll anything other than forms of canceling a person? Having
disagreement using normal conversations without hurling aspersions is >>>>> how emotionally mature people communicate.
You can't "shout down" anyone in a newsgroup, you ignoramus.
None of those things cancel a person.
Now put on your big boy pants and stop snivelling.
Apparently you don’t understand expressions.
Nope.
I understand them just fine.
You having to face criticism is not "cancel culture".
You contribute absolutely nothing to this group. You’re only here for your amusement, to criticize, and to play games. That’s the definition of a troll.
On 30.10.24 06:44, *Hemidactylus* wrote:
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:Someone who has a clue how full of shit you are.
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:Who is the approver then, unless you’re a conspiracist?
On 2024-10-29 08:25, badgolferman wrote:
*Hemidactylus* wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Do you consider someone who posts on-topic conversations as a troll? >>>>>>> Certainly Jolly Roger, Alan (2), Lorenz do. They've probably been >>>>>>> sharpening their knives the past few weeks.
There's more nuance to whether or not someone is a troll than simply >>>>>> whether or not they post "on topic".
Yes. They must be “approved” on-topic messages.
Never mind. I forgot who I was speaking to.
He is a bored old Troll. And the strongest supporter of the antisocial
figure called "Arlen".
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-30 10:39, badgolferman wrote:
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-30 10:02, badgolferman wrote:
Andrews wrote:
Hemidactylus wrote on Wed, 30 Oct 2024 03:31:07 +0000 :What is kill filing, shouting down, berating, and calling someone a
You�re either being flippant or paranoid delusional. That phrase >>>>>>> has lost all meaning, if it had any sincerity to begin with.I wonder if you Apple zealots have any idea that the Windows and >>>>>>>>> Android newsgroups are alive & kicking.
It's just the Apple-related newsgroups that are moribund.
Do you even know why?
I do.
Cancel culture.
Since all you zealots do is attack people, you missed the sage wisdom >>>>>> in badgolferman's response explaining why, when he posts to other
newsgroups, he's not called a troll - yet - when he posts on Apple >>>>>> groups, he is.
*You were so intent on attacking the poster - that you missed the
point.*
What badgolferman said is exactly why the Apple newsgroups are
moribund.
*And your attack-on-him response proved that badgolferman was correct* >>>>>
troll anything other than forms of canceling a person? Having
disagreement using normal conversations without hurling aspersions is >>>>> how emotionally mature people communicate.
You can't "shout down" anyone in a newsgroup, you ignoramus.
None of those things cancel a person.
Now put on your big boy pants and stop snivelling.
Apparently you don’t understand expressions.
Nope.
I understand them just fine.
You having to face criticism is not "cancel culture".
You contribute absolutely nothing to this group. You’re only here for your amusement, to criticize, and to play games. That’s the definition of a troll.
What do you think about that assessment... it's been decades in the
making?
You may be right, but I suspect the counter argument would be that Google/Android has finally caught up to Apple/iOS and there are no more innovations for either to set themselves apart. I don't know whether
that's true or not, but that's something I've heard here numerous times.
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and similar rubbish
that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the first bit
of October, but now it's in ruins.
Perhaps we could try again with a troll-free November and hope that it at least carries on over Christmas? Good will to all men and all that?
Old John.
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and similar rubbish
that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the first bit
of October, but now it's in ruins.
Perhaps we could try again with a troll-free November and hope that it at least carries on over Christmas? Good will to all men and all that?
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and
similar rubbish that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the
first bit of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Except none of them were truly troll-free, since Arlen made several
posts with lies about various things. Those trolls went uncorrected, but
they were trolls nonetheless. So what you guys seem to want is the polar
opposite of "troll-free" - you apparently just want trolls to be
unchecked and unhindered by the truth.
Who cares if he goes unchecked? Bickering with him serves no purpose.
Let's focus on genuine topics. However, it doesn't really seem possible as even the simplest thing rapidly descends in name-calling. Just look at the rcs thread.
Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-10-31, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*"
<ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and
similar rubbish that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and
the first bit of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Except none of them were truly troll-free, since Arlen made several
posts with lies about various things. Those trolls went uncorrected,
but they were trolls nonetheless. So what you guys seem to want is
the polar opposite of "troll-free" - you apparently just want trolls
to be unchecked and unhindered by the truth.
You're right. Alan Baker was still on prowl.
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and similar rubbish
that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the first bit
of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Perhaps we could try again with a troll-free November and hope that it at
least carries on over Christmas? Good will to all men and all that?
Beyond Christmas would be my hope.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:To make it a success we need complete buy-in from all posters here.
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and similar rubbish
that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the first bit
of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Perhaps we could try again with a troll-free November and hope that it at >>>> least carries on over Christmas? Good will to all men and all that?
Beyond Christmas would be my hope.
Block everyone but yourself. Then your eyes won’t hurt reading people you don’t like.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Nope. I'm still here.
You may be right, but I suspect the counter argument would be that Google/Android has finally caught up to Apple/iOS and there are no more innovations for either to set themselves apart. I don't know whether
that's true or not, but that's something I've heard here numerous times.
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and
similar rubbish that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the
first bit of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Except none of them were truly troll-free, since Arlen made several
posts with lies about various things. Those trolls went uncorrected, but
they were trolls nonetheless. So what you guys seem to want is the polar
opposite of "troll-free" - you apparently just want trolls to be
unchecked and unhindered by the truth.
Who cares if he goes unchecked?
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
Who cares about the truth?
“What is truth?” ~ Pontius Pilate
To make it a success we need complete buy-in from all posters here.
On 2024-10-31, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and
similar rubbish that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the >>>>> first bit of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Except none of them were truly troll-free, since Arlen made several
posts with lies about various things. Those trolls went uncorrected, but >>> they were trolls nonetheless. So what you guys seem to want is the polar >>> opposite of "troll-free" - you apparently just want trolls to be
unchecked and unhindered by the truth.
Who cares if he goes unchecked?
Who cares about the truth?
On 2024-10-31, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and
similar rubbish that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the
first bit of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Except none of them were truly troll-free, since Arlen made several
posts with lies about various things. Those trolls went uncorrected, but
they were trolls nonetheless. So what you guys seem to want is the polar opposite of "troll-free" - you apparently just want trolls to be
unchecked and unhindered by the truth.
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:To make it a success we need complete buy-in from all posters here.
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and similar rubbish
that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the first bit
of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Perhaps we could try again with a troll-free November and hope that it at >>> least carries on over Christmas? Good will to all men and all that?
Beyond Christmas would be my hope.
Chris wrote on Thu, 31 Oct 2024 16:06:33 -0000 (UTC) :
Except none of them were truly troll-free, since Arlen made several
posts with lies about various things. Those trolls went uncorrected, but >>> they were trolls nonetheless. So what you guys seem to want is the polar >>> opposite of "troll-free" - you apparently just want trolls to be
unchecked and unhindered by the truth.
Who cares if he goes unchecked? Bickering with him serves no purpose.
Let's focus on genuine topics. However, it doesn't really seem possible as >> even the simplest thing rapidly descends in name-calling. Just look at the >> rcs thread.
Do you see why I love Alan Brown's *BIG IDEA* more than you can imagine?
The truth about Apple products can be posted without zealots denying it.
Perfect.
Without you zealots denying every truth about Apple, this newsgroup is elevated back to the level of a normal group, like comp.mobile.android is.
All you zealots... Please continue to NOT post to this Apple newsgroup.
On 31 Oct 2024 at 18:17:43 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:To make it a success we need complete buy-in from all posters here.
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and similar rubbish
that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the first bit
of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Perhaps we could try again with a troll-free November and hope that it at >>>> least carries on over Christmas? Good will to all men and all that?
Beyond Christmas would be my hope.
You are baying for the Moon. You will never get trolls to buy in; otherwise they wouldn't be trolls.
Best let them vent and ignore it.
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:Every month is troll-free if you set up your Usenet filters. It's what's
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and similar rubbish
that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the first bit
of October, but now it's in ruins.
Perhaps we could try again with a troll-free November and hope that it at least carries on over Christmas? Good will to all men and all that?
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and
similar rubbish that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the >>>>>> first bit of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Except none of them were truly troll-free, since Arlen made several
posts with lies about various things. Those trolls went uncorrected, but >>>> they were trolls nonetheless. So what you guys seem to want is the polar >>>> opposite of "troll-free" - you apparently just want trolls to be
unchecked and unhindered by the truth.
Who cares if he goes unchecked?
Who cares about the truth?
It's irrelevant in this context.
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:To make it a success we need complete buy-in from all posters here.
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and similar rubbish
that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the first bit
of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Perhaps we could try again with a troll-free November and hope that it at >>> least carries on over Christmas? Good will to all men and all that?
Beyond Christmas would be my hope.
On 10/28/2024 5:01 PM, Ant wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Nope. I'm still here.
LOL, I think that, like me, many regulars have filtered out the trolls
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and
similar rubbish that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the
first bit of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Except none of them were truly troll-free, since Arlen made several
posts with lies about various things. Those trolls went uncorrected, but
they were trolls nonetheless. So what you guys seem to want is the polar
opposite of "troll-free" - you apparently just want trolls to be
unchecked and unhindered by the truth.
Who cares if he goes unchecked? Bickering with him serves no purpose.
On 2024-10-31, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and
similar rubbish that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the
first bit of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Except none of them were truly troll-free, since Arlen made several
posts with lies about various things. Those trolls went uncorrected, but
they were trolls nonetheless. So what you guys seem to want is the polar opposite of "troll-free" - you apparently just want trolls to be
unchecked and unhindered by the truth.
On 2024-10-31, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and
similar rubbish that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the >>>>> first bit of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Except none of them were truly troll-free, since Arlen made several
posts with lies about various things. Those trolls went uncorrected, but >>> they were trolls nonetheless. So what you guys seem to want is the polar >>> opposite of "troll-free" - you apparently just want trolls to be
unchecked and unhindered by the truth.
Who cares if he goes unchecked?
Who cares about the truth?
On 31 Oct 2024 at 18:17:43 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31 04:45, John Hill wrote:To make it a success we need complete buy-in from all posters here.
On 28 Oct 2024 at 22:18:08 GMT, "*Hemidactylus*" <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid>
wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Oh, dear. You seem to have stirred up all the name calling and similar rubbish
that contaminated this group.
Troll-free August seems to have carried on through September and the first bit
of October, but now it's in ruins.
Troll free August worked well in August. Sept ... not so much.
Oct - pretty good - at least from my seat.
But always room for improvement.
Perhaps we could try again with a troll-free November and hope that it at >>>> least carries on over Christmas? Good will to all men and all that?
Beyond Christmas would be my hope.
You are baying for the Moon. You will never get trolls to buy in;
You are a brain dead sociopath. There is no need to deny what you claim
to be the truth. You always lie.
On 2024-11-01 11:31, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-11-01, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Who cares if he goes unchecked?
Who cares about the truth?
It's irrelevant in this context.
Truth is irrelevant.
Engaging trolls is fruitless where the truth is concerned.
On 2024-11-01, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
On 2024-10-31, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
Who cares if he goes unchecked?
Who cares about the truth?
It's irrelevant in this context.
Truth is irrelevant.
EndlessSept wrote:
On 2024-10-31 16:24, sms wrote:
On 10/28/2024 5:01 PM, Ant wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Nope. I'm still here.
LOL, I think that, like me, many regulars have filtered out the
trolls
Your problem is you don't filter out trolls - you filter out people
who point out your errors and misinformation.
Recent example insisting that AirTags would not work on a package in
transit on a trailer truck. When (several) pointed it out, you did
not admit your error.
Is that you nospam?
EndlessSept wrote:
On 2024-10-31 16:24, sms wrote:
On 10/28/2024 5:01 PM, Ant wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Nope. I'm still here.
LOL, I think that, like me, many regulars have filtered out the
trolls
Your problem is you don't filter out trolls - you filter out people
who point out your errors and misinformation.
Recent example insisting that AirTags would not work on a package in
transit on a trailer truck. When (several) pointed it out, you did
not admit your error.
Is that you nospam?
On 2024-11-01, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
EndlessSept wrote:
On 2024-10-31 16:24, sms wrote:
On 10/28/2024 5:01 PM, Ant wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Nope. I'm still here.
LOL, I think that, like me, many regulars have filtered out the
trolls
Your problem is you don't filter out trolls - you filter out people
who point out your errors and misinformation.
Recent example insisting that AirTags would not work on a package in
transit on a trailer truck. When (several) pointed it out, you did
not admit your error.
Is that you nospam?
Deflection, right on cue.
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
But does anyone know where nospam and Lewis are? Both
disappeared a bit abruptly.
Maybe they got tired of being mentioned in the same sentence with Jolly Roger.
On 2024-11-01 18:18, badgolferman wrote:
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
But does anyone know where nospam and Lewis are? Both
disappeared a bit abruptly.
Maybe they got tired of being mentioned in the same sentence with Jolly
Roger.
That seems a lot like trolling to me...
Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote:
But does anyone know where nospam and Lewis are? Both
disappeared a bit abruptly.
Maybe they got tired of being mentioned in the same sentence with Jolly Roger.
On 2024-11-01 17:13, Jolly Roger wrote:
On 2024-11-01, badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
EndlessSept wrote:
On 2024-10-31 16:24, sms wrote:
On 10/28/2024 5:01 PM, Ant wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
All I see for recent posts are from the nymshifting troll.
Nope. I'm still here.
LOL, I think that, like me, many regulars have filtered out the
trolls
Your problem is you don't filter out trolls - you filter out people
who point out your errors and misinformation.
Recent example insisting that AirTags would not work on a package
in transit on a trailer truck. When (several) pointed it out, you
did not admit your error.
Is that you nospam?
Deflection, right on cue.
Indeed. But does anyone know where nospam and Lewis are? Both
disappeared a bit abruptly.
But Android owners upgrade phones more often than iPhone owners.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/it-s-official-android-phone-owners-upgrade-more-often-than-iphone-users/ar-AA1seZ2t?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=acd4d3617ea848eb984eda2761425876&ei=28
Explain that
I can tout several things about the iPhone and associated devices:
1. Satellite connectivity, iPhone 14 and greater <https://support.apple.com/en-us/101573>
2. Apple Watch is much more capable than any of the Android watches
3. AirPods Pro 2 can, as of a few days ago, function as a hearing aid.
That means $250 for a hearing aid that is sufficient for many people
with minor hearing loss <https://www.apple.com/airpods-pro/hearing-health/> 4. AirTags are much more capable than the competitors because every
iPhone or iPad can locate them by default, no app needs to be installed.
Of course there are also numerous features on Android devices that are
not available on iPhones, some of which I use on a daily basis, some of
which I use on an occasional basis. The iPhone still has a way to go to
catch up with Android devices in specific ways, though there is no
indication that Apple is interested in catching up.
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
On 11/2/2024 1:27 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
<snip>
But Android owners upgrade phones more often than iPhone owners.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/it-s-official-android-phone-
owners-upgrade-more-often-than-iphone-users/ar-AA1seZ2t?
ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=acd4d3617ea848eb984eda2761425876&ei=28
Explain that
Here are some reasons that I can postulate:
1. Android device makers tend to introduce new features at a more rapid
pace than Apple does for the iPhone. Apple meters out new features
slowly to encourage updates but many of those features are not
sufficiently attractive to warrant an upgrade.
2. Apple removes features from their devices causing many iPhone owners
to delay upgrades because they don't want to lose features.
a)What are the best selling iPhones of all time? The 6/6+ and
6s/6s+, the last two models that had a headphone jack.
The SE (1st gen) was the last model launched with a headphone jack. Plus
was significantly cheaper than either the 6 or 6s. So why didn't it have
the highest sales figures?
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:For those too behind the times to use Bluetooth headphones there are these >> Lightning adaptors that provide ancient headphone jack capacity. With
On 11/2/2024 1:27 PM, Tom Elam wrote:
<snip>
But Android owners upgrade phones more often than iPhone owners.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/it-s-official-android-phone- >>>>> owners-upgrade-more-often-than-iphone-users/ar-AA1seZ2t?
ocid=entnewsntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=acd4d3617ea848eb984eda2761425876&ei=28
Explain that
Here are some reasons that I can postulate:
1. Android device makers tend to introduce new features at a more rapid >>>> pace than Apple does for the iPhone. Apple meters out new features
slowly to encourage updates but many of those features are not
sufficiently attractive to warrant an upgrade.
2. Apple removes features from their devices causing many iPhone owners >>>> to delay upgrades because they don't want to lose features.
a)What are the best selling iPhones of all time? The 6/6+ and
6s/6s+, the last two models that had a headphone jack.
The SE (1st gen) was the last model launched with a headphone jack. Plus >>> was significantly cheaper than either the 6 or 6s. So why didn't it have >>> the highest sales figures?
Bluetooth I can walk around the house untethered to my phone. Progress.
There are downsides to bluetooth. 1) you have to remember to charge them,
2) the bluetooth can be unreliable, 3) sounds quality is worse, 4) most are disposable as battery replacement is unviable.
I have a perpetual problem where I'll be happily listening to my phone at home, but then my wife pulls into the drive in the car and then my phone automatically connects to the car. Why isn't there a way to prioritise devices?
In five years I'm on my third pair of BT earpods. In the flip side, I still have wired headphones that are decades old which work perfectly well. Progress?
On 2024-11-04, Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
I have higher quality headphones not “pods”. And they hold a charge
for quite a time. Not being tethered is progress as is not using an
auxillary cable in my car. Bluetooth has been reliable for me and
sound quality ok. Again one can use an adaptor cable for the jack
into headphones
Thereby losing the ability to charge the phone at the same time as
listening to something.
Chris doesn't realize there are adapters that give you two connectors.
*Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote:
I have higher quality headphones not “pods”. And they hold a charge
for quite a time. Not being tethered is progress as is not using an
auxillary cable in my car. Bluetooth has been reliable for me and
sound quality ok. Again one can use an adaptor cable for the jack
into headphones
Thereby losing the ability to charge the phone at the same time as
listening to something.
On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 13:33:33 -0700, sms wrote:
I can tout several things about the iPhone and associated devices:
1. Satellite connectivity, iPhone 14 and greater <https://
support.apple.com/en-us/101573>
2. Apple Watch is much more capable than any of the Android watches
3. AirPods Pro 2 can, as of a few days ago, function as a hearing aid.
That means $250 for a hearing aid that is sufficient for many people
with minor hearing loss <https://www.apple.com/airpods-pro/hearing-
health/>
4. AirTags are much more capable than the competitors because every
iPhone or iPad can locate them by default, no app needs to be installed.
Of course there are also numerous features on Android devices that are
not available on iPhones, some of which I use on a daily basis, some
of which I use on an occasional basis. The iPhone still has a way to
go to catch up with Android devices in specific ways, though there is
no indication that Apple is interested in catching up.
Didn't Google add anyone-you-want satellite messaging capabilities to
Android 15 that aren't limited to only SOS (for some USA carriers)?
Settings > Network & Internet > SIMs > {carrier} > Satellite Messaging
Didn't Google add anyone-you-want satellite messaging capabilities to
Android 15 that aren't limited to only SOS (for some USA carriers)?
Settings > Network & Internet > SIMs > {carrier} > Satellite Messaging
Maybe, which phones? Not on my Google Pixel.
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