• Re: BC: Velociraptor Jogging - Eric Flint that died

    From Ahasuerus@21:1/5 to Chris Thompson on Sun May 4 13:50:42 2025
    On 5/3/2025 9:58 PM, Chris Thompson wrote:
    a425couple wrote:
    [snip-snip]
    Turns out, it was the Boundry 'co-author' Eric Flint that died.

    from wiki
    "Since both the Grantville Gazette and the Ring of Fire Press had
    ceased operations shortly after Eric Flint's death in 2022,[3][4][5]
    the series was originally expected to be concluded after manuscripts
    that had already been submitted to Baen prior to Flint's death were
    published in the upcoming year or so.[6] In June 2023, it was
    announced that a new company, Flint's Shards Inc., had signed a
    contract with Lucille Robbins, Eric Flint's widow and heir, to produce
    a new electronic magazine called Eric Flint's 1632 & Beyond that was
    scheduled to be released bimonthly on the first day of odd-numbered
    months ,with Bjorn Hasseler as editor-in-chief, starting inSeptember
    2023.[7]"

    If you enjoyed the Flint/Spoor collaboration, their book _Fenrir_ will
    be coming out in June. Ryk is posting teasers, links to which can be
    found on his Facebook feed. _Fenrir_ may well be Eric Flint's last book
    to see print. Dammit. The eARC is available at Baen.com.

    (Ah, _Fenrir_ is not a continuation of the _Boundary_ series, nor any
    other. It might be the first book of one, though. Ryk seems to have
    about 30 irons in the fire atm.)

    Hopefully the financial complications that followed Eric Flint's death
    have been resolved. Back in October 2022 David Drake wrote (https://david-drake.com/2022/newsletter-128/):

    I got to thinking about success. I always figured that a writer could
    expect three material things from his work: money, readership and
    awards, I wanted enough money for a comfortable life and enough readers
    to sustain that income. I never cared about awards.

    My friend Eric Flint wanted a fourth thing: fame. How different that
    is from the other three was driven home when his widow had to declare bankruptcy. Eric was a good writer and apparently (to me) successful. It
    turns out that it’s expensive to keep up the appearance of being successful–being famous, in other words. Eric spent more money on this
    than he earned, so he died famous but owing a lot of money.

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  • From Chris Thompson@21:1/5 to Ahasuerus on Sun May 4 21:21:34 2025
    Ahasuerus wrote:
    On 5/3/2025 9:58 PM, Chris Thompson wrote:
    a425couple wrote:
    [snip-snip]
    Turns out, it was the Boundry 'co-author' Eric Flint that died.

    from wiki
    "Since both the Grantville Gazette and the Ring of Fire Press had
    ceased operations shortly after Eric Flint's death in 2022,[3][4][5]
    the series was originally expected to be concluded after manuscripts
    that had already been submitted to Baen prior to Flint's death were
    published in the upcoming year or so.[6] In June 2023, it was
    announced that a new company, Flint's Shards Inc., had signed a
    contract with Lucille Robbins, Eric Flint's widow and heir, to
    produce a new electronic magazine called Eric Flint's 1632 & Beyond
    that was scheduled to be released bimonthly on the first day of
    odd-numbered months ,with Bjorn Hasseler as editor-in-chief, starting
    inSeptember 2023.[7]"

    If you enjoyed the Flint/Spoor collaboration, their book _Fenrir_ will
    be coming out in June. Ryk is posting teasers, links to which can be
    found on his Facebook feed. _Fenrir_ may well be Eric Flint's last
    book to see print. Dammit. The eARC is available at Baen.com.

    (Ah, _Fenrir_ is not a continuation of the _Boundary_ series, nor any
    other. It might be the first book of one, though. Ryk seems to have
    about 30 irons in the fire atm.)

    Hopefully the financial complications that followed Eric Flint's death
    have been resolved. Back in October 2022 David Drake wrote (https://david-drake.com/2022/newsletter-128/):

    I got to thinking about success. I always figured that a writer could
    expect three material things from his work: money, readership and
    awards, I wanted enough money for a comfortable life and enough readers
    to sustain that income. I never cared about awards.

    My friend Eric Flint wanted a fourth thing: fame. How different that
    is from the other three was driven home when his widow had to declare bankruptcy. Eric was a good writer and apparently (to me) successful. It turns out that it’s expensive to keep up the appearance of being successful–being famous, in other words. Eric spent more money on this
    than he earned, so he died famous but owing a lot of money.


    That's really sad. I knew there were financial difficulties but I didn't realize they were bankruptcy-level bad. I wonder if bringing new writers
    along through the Ring of Fire stories had much to do with it. It
    certainly seemed like Eric Flint should have had a comfortable living.
    Then again, I don't really know how much money an author actually nets
    from their works.


    Chris

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  • From Ahasuerus@21:1/5 to Chris Thompson on Mon May 5 08:04:14 2025
    On 5/4/2025 9:21 PM, Chris Thompson wrote:
    Ahasuerus wrote:
    On 5/3/2025 9:58 PM, Chris Thompson wrote:
    a425couple wrote:
    [snip-snip]
    Turns out, it was the Boundry 'co-author' Eric Flint that died.

    from wiki
    "Since both the Grantville Gazette and the Ring of Fire Press had
    ceased operations shortly after Eric Flint's death in 2022,[3][4][5]
    the series was originally expected to be concluded after manuscripts
    that had already been submitted to Baen prior to Flint's death were
    published in the upcoming year or so.[6] In June 2023, it was
    announced that a new company, Flint's Shards Inc., had signed a
    contract with Lucille Robbins, Eric Flint's widow and heir, to
    produce a new electronic magazine called Eric Flint's 1632 & Beyond
    that was scheduled to be released bimonthly on the first day of odd-
    numbered months ,with Bjorn Hasseler as editor-in-chief, starting
    inSeptember 2023.[7]"

    If you enjoyed the Flint/Spoor collaboration, their book _Fenrir_
    will be coming out in June. Ryk is posting teasers, links to which
    can be found on his Facebook feed. _Fenrir_ may well be Eric Flint's
    last book to see print. Dammit. The eARC is available at Baen.com.

    (Ah, _Fenrir_ is not a continuation of the _Boundary_ series, nor any
    other. It might be the first book of one, though. Ryk seems to have
    about 30 irons in the fire atm.)

    Hopefully the financial complications that followed Eric Flint's death
    have been resolved. Back in October 2022 David Drake wrote (https://
    david-drake.com/2022/newsletter-128/):

    I got to thinking about success. I always figured that a writer
    could expect three material things from his work: money, readership
    and awards, I wanted enough money for a comfortable life and enough
    readers to sustain that income. I never cared about awards.

    My friend Eric Flint wanted a fourth thing: fame. How different
    that is from the other three was driven home when his widow had to
    declare bankruptcy. Eric was a good writer and apparently (to me)
    successful. It turns out that it’s expensive to keep up the appearance
    of being successful–being famous, in other words. Eric spent more
    money on this than he earned, so he died famous but owing a lot of money.

    That's really sad. I knew there were financial difficulties but I didn't realize they were bankruptcy-level bad. I wonder if bringing new writers along through the Ring of Fire stories had much to do with it. It
    certainly seemed like Eric Flint should have had a comfortable living.

    Whether an author has a comfortable living is determined both by how
    much he earns and by how much he spends and, according to the Drake
    quote above, "Eric spent more money on this [keeping up the appearance
    of being successful] than he earned".

    As Wilkins Micawber said in _David Copperfield_:

    "Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and
    six, result happiness. Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure
    twenty pounds ought and six, result misery." (https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/766/pg766.txt)

    Then again, I don't really know how much money an author actually nets
    from their works.

    For authors who use Patreon, there is this list of "Top Patreon Earners
    - Writing" - see https://graphtreon.com/top-patreon-earners/writing.
    Note that most authors use the "per month" model, but some, notably
    Seanan McGuire, use the "per story/creation" model.

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