Bs"d

Somebody who resigns gracefully never intended to win anyway.

Got this proverb from Bill Wall. I like it. Gives me some justification when I'm really pissed and I just let the time run out.

Just now had one of those die hards who really didn't want to resign, and played on to the mate, while he had only a bare king, and I had three pieces:
https://lichess.org/SVPUm5mUarsA

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

Drag it out a little longer for him. I'm surely having fun, playing around a bit with my food :D

That will teach him.

https://tinyurl.com/resign-grace

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On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 5:12:28 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

Bs"d

Somebody who resigns gracefully never intended to win anyway.

Got this proverb from Bill Wall. I like it.

It's total horseshit.

Even Fischer could resign gracefully. After one of his losses in the second Spassky match, when things were not going well, he said "Sometimes you give lessons, sometimes you get lessons".

Gives me some justification when I'm really pissed and I just let the time run out.

If that is your response to a loss, no surprise that you seek out only weak opponents.

Waiting until your flag falls, if there's more than a few moments, is the act of a spoiled child. Have the guts to resign.

Just now had one of those die hards who really didn't want to resign, and played on to the mate, while he had only a bare king, and I had three pieces:

Weaker players often don't resign until mate. At fast time controls this is no real bother.

https://lichess.org/SVPUm5mUarsA

His castling was a blunder, and notice how his ... h6 helped you. But you conducted the attack nicely. The endgame is easily won, but still I think you played it well given the time control.

Your third move though .... really?

Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

I find it surprising that you have the technique. Still, a C player friend of mine did the same thing, mating with N&B though he could have promoted a pawn. This was OTB, so he couldn't have had any electronic help.

I would have promoted the pawn, mated the idiot, and gone to do something more interesting. But each to his own.

Drag it out a little longer for him. I'm surely having fun, playing around a bit with my food :D

That will teach him.

From long experience I can say that it won't.

William Hyde

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On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 1:31:08 AM UTC+2, William Hyde wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 5:12:28 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

Bs"d

Somebody who resigns gracefully never intended to win anyway.

Got this proverb from Bill Wall. I like it.

It's total horseshit.

Even Fischer could resign gracefully. After one of his losses in the second Spassky match, when things were not going well, he said "Sometimes you give lessons, sometimes you get lessons".

Bs"d

I'm afraid that, where chess is concerned, I'm not yet on Bobby's level.

Gives me some justification when I'm really pissed and I just let the time run out.

If that is your response to a loss, no surprise that you seek out only weak opponents.

Waiting until your flag falls, if there's more than a few moments, is the act of a spoiled child. Have the guts to resign.

I usually do.

Usually.

Not when I'm really pissed.

Just now had one of those die hards who really didn't want to resign, and played on to the mate, while he had only a bare king, and I had three pieces:

Weaker players often don't resign until mate. At fast time controls this is no real bother.

https://lichess.org/SVPUm5mUarsA

His castling was a blunder, and notice how his ... h6 helped you. But you conducted the attack nicely. The endgame is easily won, but still I think you played it well given the time control.

Your third move though .... really?

I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.

Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

I find it surprising that you have the technique.

Learned it on a rainy afternoon. But I must say, in a minority of the cases it goes wrong. Then he slips through the cracks.
Maybe in 10-20% of the cases. But that keeps it interesting, and it is good practice.

Still, a C player friend of mine did the same thing, mating with N&B though he could have promoted a pawn. This was OTB, so he couldn't have had any electronic help.

There are three positions in which you can mate him, but I learned one, and that is enough.

I would have promoted the pawn, mated the idiot, and gone to do something more interesting. But each to his own.

Drag it out a little longer for him. I'm surely having fun, playing around a bit with my food :D

That will teach him.

From long experience I can say that it won't.

William Hyde

This too was chess. And it is fun to play around with an obstinate opponent.

https://tinyurl.com/leag-of-legends

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On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

Your third move though .... really?

I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.

When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.

Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

I find it surprising that you have the technique.

Learned it on a rainy afternoon.

Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.

Drag it out a little longer for him. I'm surely having fun, playing around a bit with my food :D

That will teach him.

From long experience I can say that it won't.

William Hyde

This too was chess. And it is fun to play around with an obstinate opponent.

My suggestion is that you move to Texas and play there. From experience I can say that they never resign before mate (1). Must be the Alamo effect.

Just don't let your clock run out if you are losing an OTB game. They are armed.

(1) Pardonable exaggeration, I hope.

William Hyde

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On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

Your third move though .... really?

I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.

When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.

Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

I find it surprising that you have the technique.

Learned it on a rainy afternoon.

Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.

I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.

Bs"d

It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the king.

I don't understand anything of it.

I got mine from a Dutch chess book, which gives a fairly good explanation, except it leaves out some key facts which I had to figure out on my own. The hardest part is driving the enemy king in a corner or against a wall, and then having you horse ready
on the right square.
Sometimes I mess up. It takes about 35 moves, and if you let the enemy king slip back to the middle of the board just one time, your screwed. Then you cannot get it done anymore within 50 moves.

The amount of times you will get this in practical play hovers around zero, so it is more like solving a puzzle or an intellectual exercise.
But it is fun.
In the above game the enemy helped me by going by himself to the edge of the board.

This is a decent explanation about how I do it: https://www.ragchess.com/checkmate-knight-bishop/

https://tinyurl.com/maybe-3-people

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On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

Your third move though .... really?

I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.

When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.

Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

I find it surprising that you have the technique.

Learned it on a rainy afternoon.

Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.

I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 14:33:46 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.

I learned by playing speed chess with that position for quarters and
if I failed in 50 moves or dropped flag I paid.

The kind of things we do between rounds to kill time you know?

(Yeah yeah I know it's been awhile for most of us in live over the
board events)

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On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 14:04:43 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyhorsefork@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

Your third move though .... really?

I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.

When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.

Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

I find it surprising that you have the technique.

Learned it on a rainy afternoon.

Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.

I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.

Bs"d

It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the

king.

I don't understand anything of it.

Not surprisingly, you missed the point of my message entirely.

There are *no* ways.

There are ways to mate with a bishop and a knight, but not with a
bishop and a horse.


You insist on calling pieces (rook and knight) by wrong names. You're
free to call them whatever you want, but you don't want to understand
that that makes you like look like a nine-year old beginner at the
game.


But I do have to admit that your remembering games you've played over
and over and over again and beating very weak players by playing the
same moves makes you look like a thirteen-year old beginner, not a
nine-year old one.

Feel free to enjoy your royal fucks.

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 15:05:31 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 14:33:46 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.

I learned by playing speed chess with that position for quarters and
if I failed in 50 moves or dropped flag I paid.

No you didn't. See my reply to Eli. You missed my point too.

The kind of things we do between rounds to kill time you know?

(Yeah yeah I know it's been awhile for most of us in live over the
board events)

It's been long while (15 years or so) since I've played a game of
chess, over the board or any other way. And more like 60 years since I
last played in a tournament.

I'm still interested in Chess, but my playing days are long gone.

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 16:39:19 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

You insist on calling pieces (rook and knight) by wrong names. You're
free to call them whatever you want, but you don't want to understand
that that makes you like look like a nine-year old beginner at the
game.

I've just finished the 4th edition of How to Reassess Your Chess by
Jeremy Silman and he usually calls the piece a knight but will
regularly call them 'horses'.

I personally find it incredibly annoying and agree with what you said
above but Silman is both a GM and trainer - no question about it.

He's about the only GM (at least in the post WW2 era) who has referred
to it as a 'horse" - and I have a fairly large personal library which
I've actually read. But for sure Silman is the only strong master
I've read who ever even occasionally referred to a knight as a horse.

(And I've collected since my early teens 50 years ago - you'd be
surprised how many book collectors don't - about the only ones I
haven't is my first edition of Winston Churchill's history of the
Second World War - and that was only because I'd already read it in a
paperback edition previously)

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On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 16:43:59 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

It's been long while (15 years or so) since I've played a game of
chess, over the board or any other way. And more like 60 years since I
last played in a tournament.

I'm still interested in Chess, but my playing days are long gone.

I regularly play chess and read my chess books (as in 'several times a
week') but the last time I played in a tournament was 15 years ago
though as an International Arbiter I've directed more recently :)

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On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 19:25:55 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Mar 2022 16:43:59 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

It's been long while (15 years or so) since I've played a game of
chess, over the board or any other way. And more like 60 years since I
last played in a tournament.

I'm still interested in Chess, but my playing days are long gone.

I regularly play chess and read my chess books (as in 'several times a
week') but the last time I played in a tournament was 15 years ago

About 63 years ago for me.

though as an International Arbiter I've directed more recently :)

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 6:39:22 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 14:04:43 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

Your third move though .... really?

I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.

When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.

Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up.

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

I find it surprising that you have the technique.

Learned it on a rainy afternoon.

Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.

I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.

Bs"d

It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the king.
I don't understand anything of it.

Not surprisingly, you missed the point of my message entirely.

There are *no* ways.

There are ways to mate with a bishop and a knight, but not with a
bishop and a horse.

I actually thought someone had hacked your account, as you would never say "horse".


There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.

That book can raise the endgame play of a low B player to expert. It did so with me. I kept it in my briefcase, and read it on the bus/subway.

William Hyde

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On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 2:41:35 AM UTC+2, William Hyde wrote:

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 6:39:22 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 14:04:43 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

Your third move though .... really?

I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.

When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.

Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up. >> >> > >

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

I find it surprising that you have the technique.

Learned it on a rainy afternoon.

Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.

I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.

Bs"d

It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the

king.

I don't understand anything of it.

Not surprisingly, you missed the point of my message entirely.

There are *no* ways.

There are ways to mate with a bishop and a knight, but not with a
bishop and a horse.

I actually thought someone had hacked your account, as you would never say "horse".

There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.

That book can raise the endgame play of a low B player to expert. It did so with me. I kept it in my briefcase, and read it on the bus/subway.

Bs"d

I have that book in English and in Dutch. The English is in descriptive notation, so I won't be using that one very much.

But I have to start learning some more endgame technique.

https://tinyurl.com/GR-Endgame

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On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 16:41:34 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyde1953@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 6:39:22 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 14:04:43 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

Your third move though .... really?

I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.

When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.

Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up. >> >> >> > >

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

I find it surprising that you have the technique.

Learned it on a rainy afternoon.

Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.

I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.

Bs"d

It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the

king.

I don't understand anything of it.

Not surprisingly, you missed the point of my message entirely.

There are *no* ways.

There are ways to mate with a bishop and a knight, but not with a
bishop and a horse.

I actually thought someone had hacked your account, as you would never say "horse".

No, of course not. No chessplayer (almost no chessplayer? and perhaps
a few children who just learned the game) besides Eli Kesef say
"horse" or "castle." Eli Kesef's insistence on doing is just one of
many examples of his posturing as a young child.

He's of course entitled to call the pieces whatever he wants to here,
just as I'm entitled to make fun of his silliness in doing so.

There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.

I don't know that book. I learned the mate from Reuben Fine's "Basic
Chess Endings" many years ago, but I long ago forgot it.

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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On Tuesday, March 8, 2022 at 7:14:22 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:

On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 16:41:34 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 6:39:22 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 14:04:43 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 11:33:48 PM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:06:08 -0800 (PST), William Hyde
<wthyd...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 7:08:58 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

Your third move though .... really?

I checked what Stockfish would do, but I don't like his move. I have to find something more normal.

When in doubt, develop. Note that your move wastes time on your part, and develops a piece for him.

Far more interesting than another mate on move eight. Keep it up. >> >> >> > >

I could have had two queens, but since I already had a queen and a bishop, I decided to turn my last pawn into a horse. And then I fed my queen to his king, and started to mate him with king, horse, and bishop.

That takes normally about 35 moves.

He want to go to the bitter end, I happily obliged 'm.

I find it surprising that you have the technique.

Learned it on a rainy afternoon.

Good for you. I once knew how to do this, but have long since forgotten most of it.

I never knew how to mate with a Bishop and a Horse.

Bs"d

It is not a big deal. There are several ways, and when you look on youtube, there are methods given on which I cannot find head nor tail. They speak about big triangles, smaller triangles, and the smallest triangel where you are going to mate the

king.

I don't understand anything of it.

Not surprisingly, you missed the point of my message entirely.

There are *no* ways.

There are ways to mate with a bishop and a knight, but not with a
bishop and a horse.

I actually thought someone had hacked your account, as you would never say "horse".

No, of course not. No chessplayer (almost no chessplayer? and perhaps
a few children who just learned the game)

Bs"d

And of course IM (he is not a GM) Jeremy Silman. The truth is unstoppable!

besides Eli Kesef say
"horse" or "castle." Eli Kesef's insistence on doing is just one of
many examples of his posturing as a young child.

Young at heart!

He's of course entitled to call the pieces whatever he wants to here,
just as I'm entitled to make fun of his silliness in doing so.

Whatever floats your boat.

https://tinyurl.com/hors-ey

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Bs"d

And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is answered (of course!) with the Falkbeer counter gambit:
https://lichess.org/y1fxGt1LATrv

So I gave him a pawn, and then I gave him another pawn, (move of Morphy) and then on move 13 the enemy run away out of the game, without resigning.

Like is said; I understand: https://tinyurl.com/resign-grace

Fortunately, when they walk out of the game, after about 2 minutes, you get the option of claiming victory. I didn't have to wait 15 minutes. That only happens when he doesn't walk out, but simply doesn't move anymore.

The game ended on move 13, after I sent him the message: "Nasty horse fork", and then royally forked him. He had the audacity to request two times a takeback, so I had to sent him two times the following link: https://tinyurl.com/pick-pocket

So when I was waiting for the following victim to play against me he challenged me to another fight. Since I am a kind, understanding, and forgiving person, I obliged him, and we got another kings gambit followed by a Falkbeer on the board: https://
lichess.org/owmUrlns
On move 15 he lost his queen, but he bravely soldiered on, but, of course in vain. On move 23 he again fell victim to a nasty horse fork, and then he surrendered.

Those are the kind of chess games I like.

https://tinyurl.com/ruthles-kill

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On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyhorsefork@gmail.com> wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is answered (of course!)
with the Falkbeer counter gambit:

Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings
Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.

https://lichess.org/y1fxGt1LATrv

So I gave him a pawn, and then I gave him another pawn, (move of Morphy) and then on move 13 the enemy run away out of the game, without resigning.

It's just incredible that such a strong player as your opponent in
this game let you play all your brilliant moves and beat him.

Like is said; I understand: https://tinyurl.com/resign-grace

Fortunately, when they walk out of the game, after about 2 minutes, you get the option of claiming victory. I didn't have to wait 15 minutes. That only happens when he doesn't walk out, but simply doesn't move anymore.

The game ended on move 13, after I sent him the message: "Nasty horse fork", and then royally forked him.

It was just a shame that you weren't royally fucked by his horse.

He had the audacity to request two times a takeback, so I had to sent him two times the following link: https://tinyurl.com/pick-pocket

So when I was waiting for the following victim to play against me he challenged me to another fight. Since I am a kind, understanding, and forgiving person, I obliged him, and we got another kings gambit followed by a Falkbeer on the board: https://

lichess.org/owmUrlns


It's just incredible that so many strong players fall victim to your grandmasterly skills at the game. You are incredibly skilled at
fucking horses.

On move 15 he lost his queen, but he bravely soldiered on, but, of course in vain. On move 23 he again fell victim to a nasty horse fork, and then he surrendered.

Those are the kind of chess games I like.

None of us here cares what kind of chess games you like. Keep your
childish silliness to yourself.


I'm not sure why I continue to stay in this newsgroup. I guess it's
because once in a while, there's a message here from someone else
that's of some interest. But certainly not from you.

Perhaps I should just killfile you. Then you would have almost no
responses to your stupid posts. Would that induce you to stop posting
your beginner's games and go away?

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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On Thursday, March 10, 2022 at 2:36:10 AM UTC+2, Ken Blake wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is answered (of course!)
with the Falkbeer counter gambit:

Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do. >https://lichess.org/y1fxGt1LATrv

So I gave him a pawn, and then I gave him another pawn, (move of Morphy) and then on move 13 the enemy run away out of the game, without resigning.

It's just incredible that such a strong player as your opponent in
this game let you play all your brilliant moves and beat him.

Like is said; I understand: https://tinyurl.com/resign-grace

Fortunately, when they walk out of the game, after about 2 minutes, you get the option of claiming victory. I didn't have to wait 15 minutes. That only happens when he doesn't walk out, but simply doesn't move anymore.

The game ended on move 13, after I sent him the message: "Nasty horse fork", and then royally forked him.

It was just a shame that you weren't royally fucked by his horse.

He had the audacity to request two times a takeback, so I had to sent him two times the following link: https://tinyurl.com/pick-pocket

So when I was waiting for the following victim to play against me he challenged me to another fight. Since I am a kind, understanding, and forgiving person, I obliged him, and we got another kings gambit followed by a Falkbeer on the board: https://

lichess.org/owmUrlns

It's just incredible that so many strong players fall victim to your grandmasterly skills at the game. You are incredibly skilled at
fucking horses.

Bs"d

https://is.gd/pure_lov

On move 15 he lost his queen, but he bravely soldiered on, but, of course in vain. On move 23 he again fell victim to a nasty horse fork, and then he surrendered.

Those are the kind of chess games I like.

None of us here cares what kind of chess games you like. Keep your
childish silliness to yourself.

I'm not sure why I continue to stay in this newsgroup. I guess it's
because once in a while, there's a message here from someone else
that's of some interest. But certainly not from you.

Perhaps I should just killfile you.

Who is stopping you?

Then you would have almost no
responses to your stupid posts. Would that induce you to stop posting
your beginner's games and go away?

Only one way to find out.

http://tiny.cc/isolated-gloom

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On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:36:06 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyhorsefork@gmail.com> wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is = >answered (of course!)
with the Falkbeer counter gambit:

=20

Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings
Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.

I've defended the KGA for years with the h6 lines

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On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 10:14:19 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.

I don't know that book. I learned the mate from Reuben Fine's "Basic
Chess Endings" many years ago, but I long ago forgot it.

I had a copy years ago but sold a bunch of stuff when I went off to
grad school in the early 80s.

I'd be interested in knowiing if there were an algebraic or FAN
version - am pretty sure mine was descriptive, about 5" x 4" x 1" and
hard cover.

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On Friday, March 11, 2022 at 8:04:45 AM UTC+2, The Horny Goat wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:36:06 -0700, Ken Blake <K...@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is = >answered (of course!)
with the Falkbeer counter gambit:

=20

Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings >Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.

I've defended the KGA for years with the h6 lines

Bs"d

Do you have an example of a game like that?

https://tinyurl.com/bad-chess-day

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:03:13 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

On Tue, 08 Mar 2022 10:14:19 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.

I don't know that book. I learned the mate from Reuben Fine's "Basic
Chess Endings" many years ago, but I long ago forgot it.

I had a copy years ago but sold a bunch of stuff when I went off to
grad school in the early 80s.

I'd be interested in knowiing if there were an algebraic or FAN
version - am pretty sure mine was descriptive, about 5" x 4" x 1" and
hard cover.

Same for me. Copyright 1941, second edition here.

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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On Thu, 10 Mar 2022 22:04:40 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:36:06 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef >><nastyhorsefork@gmail.com> wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is = >>answered (of course!)
with the Falkbeer counter gambit:

=20

Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings >>Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.

I've defended the KGA for years with the h6 lines

You must be the only person who doesn't play what Kesef does. <G>

It's been so long since I've played and it was so rare the anyone
played the King's Gambit against me, but If I remember correctly, I
used to usually play 3... Be7



--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 7:36:10 PM UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:

On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 14:55:52 -0800 (PST), Eli Kesef
<nastyho...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one. The enemy played a kings gambit on which is answered (of course!)
with the Falkbeer counter gambit:

Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.

I think the implication is that he would never play anything else. Or in general, he would never play a non-gambit when a gambit is available.

Tarrasch always played the Falkbeer against the KG, considered it a refutation.

https://lichess.org/y1fxGt1LATrv

So I gave him a pawn, and then I gave him another pawn, (move of Morphy) and then on move 13 the enemy run away out of the game, without resigning.

It's just incredible that such a strong player as your opponent in
this game let you play all your brilliant moves and beat him.

Like is said; I understand: https://tinyurl.com/resign-grace

Fortunately, when they walk out of the game, after about 2 minutes, you get the option of claiming victory. I didn't have to wait 15 minutes. That only happens when he doesn't walk out, but simply doesn't move anymore.

The game ended on move 13, after I sent him the message: "Nasty horse fork", and then royally forked him.

It was just a shame that you weren't royally fucked by his horse.

He had the audacity to request two times a takeback, so I had to sent him two times the following link: https://tinyurl.com/pick-pocket

So when I was waiting for the following victim to play against me he challenged me to another fight. Since I am a kind, understanding, and forgiving person, I obliged him, and we got another kings gambit followed by a Falkbeer on the board: https://

lichess.org/owmUrlns

It's just incredible that so many strong players fall victim to your grandmasterly skills at the game. You are incredibly skilled at
fucking horses.

On move 15 he lost his queen, but he bravely soldiered on, but, of course in vain. On move 23 he again fell victim to a nasty horse fork, and then he surrendered.

Those are the kind of chess games I like.

None of us here cares what kind of chess games you like. Keep your
childish silliness to yourself.

The best game he's shown by far is the one with the king side attack a week ago. For a speed game he conducted the attack fairly well, and the opponent dropped no pieces.

Why he prefers games where the opponents don't put up a fight is a mystery to me.

I'm not sure why I continue to stay in this newsgroup.

Even when the group was active, he wouldn't be the worst poster at all. There was some horrible crap posted here regularly. The group rec.games.chess.politics was created in hopes of diverting some of that crap away from here, but it didn't work, just
gave another venue for the crap.

I've been encouraging some reasonable chess players I know to post here, but no luck. Some people like newsgroups, some do not. Of the various newsgroups I used to follow, only talk.origins and rec.arts.sf.written are still active and on-topic. Maybe
alt.atheism as well, but it's mostly crap.

The real discussions that used to take place here, and there were some which were fascinating, are now fractured over dozens of blogs and web sites. It is impossible to keep track of them, much better to have a large fraction of such discussions here,
but that isn't happening.

William Hyde

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On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 09:53:16 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings >>>Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.

I've defended the KGA for years with the h6 lines

You must be the only person who doesn't play what Kesef does. <G>

It's been so long since I've played and it was so rare the anyone
played the King's Gambit against me, but If I remember correctly, I
used to usually play 3... Be7

Not sure whether you're talking the gambit accepted or declined but
will assume you mean accepted since Bc5 is by far the best known way
to decline it while Be7 is the usual main line in the accepted
version.

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On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 14:23:02 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca>
wrote:

On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 09:53:16 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

Of course. Nobody ever plays any other response to the Kings >>>>Gambit.Everybody plays the same opening variations that you do.

I've defended the KGA for years with the h6 lines

You must be the only person who doesn't play what Kesef does. <G>

It's been so long since I've played and it was so rare the anyone
played the King's Gambit against me, but If I remember correctly, I
used to usually play 3... Be7

Not sure whether you're talking the gambit accepted or declined but
will assume you mean accepted

Yes, I was replying to your message in which you said "kgA."

since Bc5 is by far the best known way
to decline it while Be7 is the usual main line in the accepted
version.

--
The real, original Ken Blake, not some other newcomer

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Bs"d

And I got another one, an anti-miniature. One of those guys he really REALLY don't wanna say die. He dragged on and on and on, so I thought: "Let's give this guy a hand." After all, we are in the world to help each other, ain't we?

So the enemy was left with a bare king, while I had a castle and 6 pawns: https://lichess.org/tvaD5ntbHWNq

And he played on. So I horsed a pawn, and then I bishopped a pawn, (nobody objects when somebody says: "I queened my pawn", so please don't start whining about me not queening my pawn, but converting it to something else) and then I queened the rest,
after which I fed those queens to his king.
At one point he even refused to take my queens and my last castle. I had to force feed them to him.
But anyway, at last he was left with his bare king, and I started to mate him with my king, horse and bishop.
With good success I might add, it took me only 27 moves, and he was mate on move 114.

Chalk up another one for the good guy!

https://tinyurl.com/horse-bishop

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On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 4:33:26 AM UTC-4, Eli Kesef wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one, an anti-miniature. One of those guys he really REALLY don't wanna say die. He dragged on and on and on, so I thought: "Let's give this guy a hand." After all, we are in the world to help each other, ain't we?

These people who play 15+ increment as if it was bullet confuse me. Does he think there are extra points for losing with more time on the clock?

Your Bd4 move sent me to the hospital with uncontrolled vomiting. They didn't think I would live but an emergency dose of Lasker stabilized me.

William Hyde

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On 4/1/2022 1:12 PM, William Hyde wrote:

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 4:33:26 AM UTC-4, Eli Kesef wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one, an anti-miniature. One of those guys he really REALLY don't wanna say die. He dragged on and on and on, so I thought: "Let's give this guy a hand." After all, we are in the world to help each other, ain't we?

These people who play 15+ increment as if it was bullet confuse me. Does he think there are extra points for losing with more time on the clock?

Your Bd4 move sent me to the hospital with uncontrolled vomiting. They didn't think I would live but an emergency dose of Lasker stabilized me.

LOL. Yep, a terrible move especially, when followed by Bc5. It took him
two moves to get him back to where he started with another White piece developed.


--
Ken

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On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:12:42 PM UTC+3, William Hyde wrote:

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 4:33:26 AM UTC-4, Eli Kesef wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one, an anti-miniature. One of those guys he really REALLY don't wanna say die. He dragged on and on and on, so I thought: "Let's give this guy a hand." After all, we are in the world to help each other, ain't we?

These people who play 15+ increment as if it was bullet confuse me. Does he think there are extra points for losing with more time on the clock?

Your Bd4 move sent me to the hospital with uncontrolled vomiting. They didn't think I would live but an emergency dose of Lasker stabilized me.

Bs"d

I'm glad you're feeling better now. I admit that Bd5 was not the greatest move, but the only thing I lost with it were 2 tempi, so that was not so bad.

https://tinyurl.com/100-traps

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On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 1:03:54 PM UTC-4, Eli Kesef wrote:

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:12:42 PM UTC+3, William Hyde wrote:

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 4:33:26 AM UTC-4, Eli Kesef wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one, an anti-miniature. One of those guys he really REALLY don't wanna say die. He dragged on and on and on, so I thought: "Let's give this guy a hand." After all, we are in the world to help each other, ain't we?

These people who play 15+ increment as if it was bullet confuse me. Does he think there are extra points for losing with more time on the clock?

Your Bd4 move sent me to the hospital with uncontrolled vomiting. They didn't think I would live but an emergency dose of Lasker stabilized me.

Bs"d

I'm glad you're feeling better now. I admit that Bd5 was not the greatest move, but the only thing I lost with it were 2 tempi, so that was not so bad.

That is actually quite terrible. After your second Bc5 you had a distinctly inferior position, probably lost. As white I would expect to win, but being a crap player, I'd likely blunder a piece at fast time controls.

Resist the temptation to move the same piece twice, unless there is a threat that the opponent cannot meet with a developing move.

William Hyde

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Bs"d

Those stories about "Don't waste any time, develop at all cost as fast as possible!" hold water. Sometimes.

Especially in open games. But, in closed openings, say 1. d5, or the Sicilian, which is considered half open, those rules are not so important.

And about me playing the pawns on the side, often and early, I took notice since you said that, and it is also mentioned in the golden opening rules of the first good chess book I bought that you should not play up the pawns on the side, and I saw a lot
of titled players playing up their pawns on the side. I even saw Alpha-Zero doing that against Stockfish. And winning with it.
In the Sicilian there is at least on line where black prophylactic plays a6, without attacking anything with it.

So yes, in general those rules are important, it is just that there are MANY exceptions to the rules.

Here are the golden opening rules from my second, first good, chess book:

1. If the oppenent allows it, then we occupy the centre with two centre pawns.

2. In general we develop the horses before the bishops.

3. In the opening we try to do as fast as possible the short castling.

4. In the opening don’t play twice with the same piece.

5. Play the pieces to squares where they have maximum effect. Therefore, moves like Nh3, Na3, Na5, Nh6, are done only in exceptional cases.

6. The heavy pieces, castles and queen, are not taken out until the light pieces are developed and the castling has been done.

7. Don’t play a3, h3, a6 and h6. Don’t play more than two pawn moves in the opening.

So I was already familiar with the concept, it is just that experience tells me that I fare better when I do play up my side pawns.
And not always of course, sometimes I prefer to let the enemy bishop come and pin my horse, and only then I start chasing him away with pawns, while in the process I get a pawn storm on the enemy king side.
It all depends.

Concerning the rule “In the opening don’t play twice with the same piece.”, in the two horses defense, after white start with the Italian, then the move Ng5, playing the horse twice in the opening, and attacking f7, is a perfectly fine move.

So there are a lot of exceptions to the rules. Don’t take them too seriously and don’t be to dogmatic about them.

https://tinyurl.com/ziematin1

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On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 8:08:24 AM UTC-4, Eli Kesef wrote:

Bs"d

Those stories about "Don't waste any time, develop at all cost as fast as possible!" hold water. Sometimes.

Especially in open games. But, in closed openings, say 1. d5, or the Sicilian, which is considered half open, those rules are not so important.

This is true. But you are not playing many closed games.

And about me playing the pawns on the side, often and early, I took notice since you said that, and it is also mentioned in the golden opening rules of the first good chess book I bought that you should not play up the pawns on the side, and I saw a

lot of titled players playing up their pawns on the side. I even saw Alpha-Zero doing that against Stockfish. And winning with it.

In the Sicilian there is at least on line where black prophylactic plays a6, without attacking anything with it.

So yes, in general those rules are important, it is just that there are MANY exceptions to the rules.

When you are a weak player, stick to the rules when in doubt. As you get stronger the exceptions will become more obvious. Moving the same piece twice to make a threat that can be profitably met is not an exception.

Here are the golden opening rules from my second, first good, chess book:

1. If the oppenent allows it, then we occupy the centre with two centre pawns.

I seldom do this as black. I prefer to undermine the centre. Just another exception.

2. In general we develop the horses before the bishops.

Probably one of the weakest rules. Generally you know where your knights should go but are uncertain about your bishops, so it's best to postpone those. Not if you want to play a Ruy Lopez, though. Or various fianchetto openings.

3. In the opening we try to do as fast as possible the short castling.

Not a good rule in my view. By all means get your king out of the centre in an open game, but this can be unwise in closed or semi-open games. In the Sicilian black is often right to postpone castling until he has enough queen side play to keep white
busy. And sometimes queenside castling is mandatory.

4. In the opening don’t play twice with the same piece.

Good rule with some obvious exceptions.

5. Play the pieces to squares where they have maximum effect. Therefore, moves like Nh3, Na3, Na5, Nh6, are done only in exceptional cases.

Yes, centralize your forces.

6. The heavy pieces, castles and queen, are not taken out until the light pieces are developed and the castling has been done.

Usually.

7. Don’t play a3, h3, a6 and h6. Don’t play more than two pawn moves in the opening.

I usually play three. That advice was given when almost every opening was e4 or d4, and fianchettos were considered suspect. In the days when Tarrasch declared the Sicilian to be unsound.

So I was already familiar with the concept, it is just that experience tells me that I fare better when I do play up my side pawns.

When I was in a town with weaker players I found that I won faster by playing bad moves. But when I came back home those bad habits were hard to break, and I was a much weaker player than I had been.

William Hyde

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On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:33:26 AM UTC+3, Eli Kesef wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one, an anti-miniature. One of those guys he really REALLY don't wanna say die. He dragged on and on and on, so I thought: "Let's give this guy a hand." After all, we are in the world to help each other, ain't we?

So the enemy was left with a bare king, while I had a castle and 6 pawns: https://lichess.org/tvaD5ntbHWNq

And he played on. So I horsed a pawn, and then I bishopped a pawn, (nobody objects when somebody says: "I queened my pawn", so please don't start whining about me not queening my pawn, but converting it to something else) and then I queened the rest,

after which I fed those queens to his king.

At one point he even refused to take my queens and my last castle. I had to force feed them to him.
But anyway, at last he was left with his bare king, and I started to mate him with my king, horse and bishop.
With good success I might add, it took me only 27 moves, and he was mate on move 114.

Chalk up another one for the good guy!

Bs"d

Got here another one, who really didn't want to resign. On move 65 he was left with a bare king, and I had a queen, bishop, and pawn. And he played on.

So again, I lend him a hand, and I brought my pawn to the other side, and horsed it. Then I fed my queen to his king, and I was left with bishop and horse against his bare king. This was on move 72.

On move 106 I mated him.

That will teach him.

And keep me in shape with the horse-bishop mate.

https://tinyurl.com/horse-bishop

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On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 7:54:47 PM UTC-5, Eli Kesef wrote:

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:33:26 AM UTC+3, Eli Kesef wrote:

Bs"d

And I got another one, an anti-miniature. One of those guys he really REALLY don't wanna say die. He dragged on and on and on, so I thought: "Let's give this guy a hand." After all, we are in the world to help each other, ain't we?

So the enemy was left with a bare king, while I had a castle and 6 pawns: https://lichess.org/tvaD5ntbHWNq

And he played on. So I horsed a pawn, and then I bishopped a pawn, (nobody objects when somebody says: "I queened my pawn", so please don't start whining about me not queening my pawn, but converting it to something else) and then I queened the rest,

after which I fed those queens to his king.

At one point he even refused to take my queens and my last castle. I had to force feed them to him.
But anyway, at last he was left with his bare king, and I started to mate him with my king, horse and bishop.
With good success I might add, it took me only 27 moves, and he was mate on move 114.

Chalk up another one for the good guy!

Bs"d

Got here another one, who really didn't want to resign. On move 65 he was left with a bare king, and I had a queen, bishop, and pawn. And he played on.

So again, I lend him a hand, and I brought my pawn to the other side, and horsed it. Then I fed my queen to his king, and I was left with bishop and horse against his bare king. This was on move 72.

On move 106 I mated him.

Everybody does this once. After that we mate the time-wasting bastards ASAP.

That will teach him.

It won't.

And keep me in shape with the horse-bishop mate.

It will.

William Hyde

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I actually thought someone had hacked your account, as you would never say "horse".

THAT'S CORRECT! As ani full no, the correct term is "Horsey," And the horsey starts on a square next to the Manger in the corner which has a dent in the top to contain the hay [as explained to me by Anna, Russian, aged 8], and beside the tall Piggy on
the other side.

There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.

That book can raise the endgame play of a low B player to expert. It did so with me. I kept it in my briefcase, and read it on the bus/subway.

A [disreputable] US Woman's Championship was resolved by Armageddon rules and a very upset White player complained bitterly to the arbiter that he should not have halted the game because of "insufficient material to mate" [resulting in a draw, but a loss
for the white player] since it was just King and Knight on both sides but all crammed into a corner — and I think she was right, since there were a few opportunities for the Black player to err in serious time trouble by accidentally creating a help-
mate.

I didn't come here to write that but about Hastings 1895. I'll make another thread.

Phil Innes

William Hyde

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On Wednesday, February 15, 2023 at 8:25:19 AM UTC-5, Phil Innes wrote:

I actually thought someone had hacked your account, as you would never say "horse".

THAT'S CORRECT! As ani full no, the correct term is "Horsey," And the horsey starts on a square next to the Manger in the corner which has a dent in the top to contain the hay [as explained to me by Anna, Russian, aged 8], and beside the tall Piggy on

the other side.

There's a slim book by Averbach: "Chess Endings - Essential Knowledge" from which I learned the B+N mate.

That book can raise the endgame play of a low B player to expert. It did so with me. I kept it in my briefcase, and read it on the bus/subway.

A [disreputable] US Woman's Championship was resolved by Armageddon rules and a very upset White player complained bitterly to the arbiter that he should not have halted the game because of "insufficient material to mate" [resulting in a draw, but a

loss for the white player] since it was just King and Knight on both sides but all crammed into a corner — and I think she was right, since there were a few opportunities for the Black player to err in serious time trouble by accidentally creating a
help-mate.

We used to agree that "insufficient material" meant that no mate was possible, even with the worst possible play.

But I seem to recall that some organizers use a different standard, ruling out terribly unlikely mates.

I didn't come here to write that but about Hastings 1895. I'll make another thread.

And there I was just last week trying to explain to a sports fan why Harry Pillsbury was a greater
player than Ty Cobb (as well as being a far better person, that point was conceded).

William Hyde

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RE: Hastings

And there I was just last week trying to explain to a sports fan why Harry Pillsbury was a greater
player than Ty Cobb (as well as being a far better person, that point was conceded).

At their [UK] request I tried to set up a 3 way match:— Hastings UK, pop 88,000, Hastings New Zealand pop 92,000 and Hastings Michigan pop 7,000. The Michigan folks didn't have a chess club, or rather the Chamber of Commerce said that if they had one
they didn't know about it. That was an event that didn't happen about 15 years ago.

Then I offered a match to USCF, board and officers, to play their equivalents on the Russian board — but they declined, even though no travel was involved — we were introducing sensory distance play boards [similar to the current DGT, but better] at
the time including a clock which if depressed would automatically send the move and remaining time to the distant location. In discussing designs I found myself disliking another persons' clock choice and a little too late to my chagrin discovered the
other person was Kasparov — but I give it up that he should know best.

The Russians then asked for an International distance tournament, USA vs Russia, but Paul Truong said in my private ear that it would be embarrassing to float the invitation to USCF since the teams would be practically Russia vs Russia.

Then Rob Mitchell who used to post here organized a correspondence match RGCM vs the USCF board and officers. I am glad to say we won, but can't remember other than Rob and I who were on our team?

Then, once more bid by the enterprising Russians, I manage to create a distance play match between St. Petersburg and a US team, which was also televised and broadcast from Nashville, TN, Paul Truong and myself commentating. We left USCF out of this
engagement, they being a tad sleepy.

Cordially, Phil Innes
ex-cc Rob Mitchell

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