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  • Perpetual Motion of the Second Kind : Commonplace

    From Pentcho Valev@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 3 05:49:47 2023
    "Water began flowing from one beaker to the other" https://youtu.be/U7PeezOzprE?t=192

    The flow can obviously do mechanical work, e.g. by rotating a waterwheel. At the expense of what energy?

    At the expense of ambient heat (no other source of usable energy), in violation of the second law of thermodynamics.

    https://www.ecourses.ou.edu/ebook/thermodynamics/ch05/sec052/media/th050206p.gif

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

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  • From Pentcho Valev@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 3 09:51:18 2023
    Misleading education: "A NECESSARY component of a heat engine, then, is that TWO TEMPERATURES ARE INVOLVED. At one stage the system is heated, at another it is cooled." http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/py105/Heatengines.html

    "The Kelvin–Planck statement of the second law of thermodynamics states that no heat engine can produce a net amount of work while exchanging heat with a single reservoir only." https://anirudhbhaskaran.weebly.com/uploads/2/1/6/7/21674002/ch6.pdf

    The second law of thermodynamics would be long forgotten if scientists were not misled into believing that one-temperature (single-reservoir) heat engines do not exist. Actually, such heat engines are commonplace. Just an example:

    "When the pH is lowered (that is, on raising the chemical potential, μ, of the protons present) at the isothermal condition of 37°C, these matrices can exert forces, f, sufficient to lift weights that are a thousand times their dry weight." https://
    patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/12/1d/09/0fb416e99018cf/US5393602.pdf

    This is the upper picture here:

    https://pubs.acs.org/cms/10.1021/jp972167t/asset/images/medium/jp972167tf00016.gif

    The contractile polymers that "lift weights that are a thousand times their dry weight" are described here: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/jp972167t. One can heat and then cool them (TWO-TEMPERATURE or TWO-RESERVOIR heat engine), but one can
    alternatively decrease and then increase the pH in the system (ONE-TEMPERATURE or SINGLE-RESERVOIR heat engine).

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

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  • From Pentcho Valev@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 4 02:25:31 2023
    In electrospray

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=aoZnzIO9ZJ0

    the liquid jet can obviously do mechanical work, e.g. by rotating a waterwheel. The work will be done at the expense of ambient heat - there is no other usable source of energy, as can be seen from this picture:

    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRhfCwkzGWsBSGpqOVVaNEaPdRbdQPZxfghmA&usqp=CAU

    Pentcho Valev https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

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